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September 01, 2015, 09:47:03 PM
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Either bitcoin is an Investment commodity (the ultimate one!) that you hold and speculate on
Or internet *stable* cash money that you you keep on spending

But the latter is not synonym with moonlanding.

And thinking you can have both is ATH delusions.

I don't need to have both at the same time. Alternatingly is fine with me.


+1

it depends on internet cash money for how many users(?). if a billion people decide to use it, price has to go to the moon.

if it stays an investment commodity for a few 100k speculators, price may go to the moon.





you have to consider the latter is so less probable tho considering bitcoin's past, but rather young (i'll concede this to you) history.. bitcoin price has mainly been driven from investors and speculators until now rather than some mass adoption or retail bs.

the point being there is no incentive to drop the first, giving up decentralization et al. just based on the hope and *ifs/may/blablabluh* to catch the second.. especially considering the high uncertainty regarding the rest of the financial world nowadays.

that's all.
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September 01, 2015, 11:06:18 PM
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Some nice move is coiling, I guess. It's flat as Bitcoin.

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September 02, 2015, 07:31:45 AM
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Either bitcoin is an Investment commodity (the ultimate one!) that you hold and speculate on
Or internet *stable* cash money that you you keep on spending

But the latter is not synonym with moonlanding.

And thinking you can have both is ATH delusions.

I don't need to have both at the same time. Alternatingly is fine with me.


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it depends on internet cash money for how many users(?). if a billion people decide to use it, price has to go to the moon.

if it stays an investment commodity for a few 100k speculators, price may go to the moon.


If a billion people decided to use it for internet cash money we would need MUCH larger blocks.

I found this comment on Reddit to be quite thought provoking regarding block size. It brought a perspective i never though about.

https://np.reddit.com/r/bitcoinxt/comments/3hyb1l/it_seems_like_theres_a_nonetrivial_number_of/cuc4hj6


 
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September 02, 2015, 11:38:57 AM
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Guys, really, please take this discussion elsewhere.

I come here to read Masterluc's TA. This rule used to be enforced and respected. For some reason this debate above has been going on multiple pages now. There's an enormous forum out there where you could and this is discussed in great lenght. Discuss all you want, just DON'T do it in this topic.
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September 02, 2015, 12:38:17 PM
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Either bitcoin is an Investment commodity (the ultimate one!) that you hold and speculate on
Or internet *stable* cash money that you you keep on spending

But the latter is not synonym with moonlanding.

And thinking you can have both is ATH delusions.

I don't need to have both at the same time. Alternatingly is fine with me.


+1

it depends on internet cash money for how many users(?). if a billion people decide to use it, price has to go to the moon.

if it stays an investment commodity for a few 100k speculators, price may go to the moon.





If &  if & If ... .So many If .....

Yes if many things will happened the bitcoin will go to the moon ....

The problem is nothing happens except crashing .........
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September 02, 2015, 06:01:42 PM
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Either bitcoin is an Investment commodity (the ultimate one!) that you hold and speculate on
Or internet *stable* cash money that you you keep on spending

But the latter is not synonym with moonlanding.

And thinking you can have both is ATH delusions.

Why could it not be both?
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September 02, 2015, 06:45:49 PM
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Guys, really, please take this discussion elsewhere.

I come here to read Masterluc's TA. This rule used to be enforced and respected. For some reason this debate above has been going on multiple pages now. There's an enormous forum out there where you could and this is discussed in great lenght. Discuss all you want, just DON'T do it in this topic.

This guy gets it.

EVERYONE ELSE STFU and take it elsewhere please.

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September 02, 2015, 09:32:35 PM
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Did some metrics, looks legit.



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September 02, 2015, 09:34:32 PM
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Did some metrics, looks legit.




So, what's next? Wave I ?
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September 02, 2015, 09:40:42 PM
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So, what's next? Wave I ?

It will be a looong story.... 1 I will recognize in running 3. Its a three-five years.

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September 02, 2015, 09:42:16 PM
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So, what's next? Wave I ?

It will be a looong story.... 1 I will recognize in running 3. Its a three-five years.

Could you elaborate more on that bolded part please.

Quote from:  Satoshi Nakamoto
Feb. 14, 2010: I’m sure that in 20 years there will either be very large transaction volume or no volume.
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September 02, 2015, 09:48:14 PM
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Could you elaborate more on that bolded part please.
I may claim without doubt "This was 1" in a time of running 3.

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September 02, 2015, 09:50:32 PM
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Could you elaborate more on that bolded part please.
I may claim without doubt "This was 1" in a time of running 3.

So the Historical III may be within 3-5 years ?

Quote from:  Satoshi Nakamoto
Feb. 14, 2010: I’m sure that in 20 years there will either be very large transaction volume or no volume.
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September 02, 2015, 09:52:25 PM
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So the Historical III may be within 3-5 years ?

End of Historical III may be in more than 3-5 years. It is running.

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September 02, 2015, 09:59:00 PM
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I understand none of this and I want to.

Can someone with knowledge and a bit of spare time explain this please? ^^
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September 02, 2015, 10:09:54 PM
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So the Historical III may be within 3-5 years ?

End of Historical III may be in more than 3-5 years. It is running.

Got it, so what you want say basically is, we are in Wave 1 in a running Wave III, am I right ?


Quote from:  Satoshi Nakamoto
Feb. 14, 2010: I’m sure that in 20 years there will either be very large transaction volume or no volume.
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September 02, 2015, 10:13:58 PM
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So the Historical III may be within 3-5 years ?

End of Historical III may be in more than 3-5 years. It is running.


Right. We're in the middle of Wave 1 of Historical Wave III which will peak sometime in the next 3-5 years. Or seen another way, 1 BTC = 100k around 2020.
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September 02, 2015, 10:19:21 PM
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So, what's next? Wave I ?

It will be a looong story.... 1 I will recognize in running 3. Its a three-five years.

:-) I'm sure it is not possible to keep $230 price for next 3-5 years. I'm also sure we cannot go down. => so we will go up drastically THIS year
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September 03, 2015, 01:45:32 AM
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So, what's next? Wave I ?

It will be a looong story.... 1 I will recognize in running 3. Its a three-five years.

:-) I'm sure it is not possible to keep $230 price for next 3-5 years. I'm also sure we cannot go down. => so we will go up drastically THIS year

Time to put in your longs boys and girls! I'm bullish, but then again I always am. I put in some trades from time to time when the market makes certain patterns. I took a long position 3-4 days ago and I plan to hold it for over a week. I expect we'll be in the $250-260 range this weekend followed by a rise to over $300.

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September 03, 2015, 03:37:48 AM
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So, what's next? Wave I ?

It will be a looong story.... 1 I will recognize in running 3. Its a three-five years.

:-) I'm sure it is not possible to keep $230 price for next 3-5 years. I'm also sure we cannot go down. => so we will go up drastically THIS year

Time to put in your longs boys and girls! I'm bullish, but then again I always am. I put in some trades from time to time when the market makes certain patterns. I took a long position 3-4 days ago and I plan to hold it for over a week. I expect we'll be in the $250-260 range this weekend followed by a rise to over $300.

What indicator would lead you to believe this? Outside of some major news item I don't see how we make any significant move as long as the block size boogeyman looms

"I believe this will be the ultimate fate of Bitcoin, to be the "high-powered money" that serves as a reserve currency for banks that issue their own digital cash." Hal Finney, Dec. 2010
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