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March 01, 2018, 05:02:24 AM
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I have no merit click Sad what will i do ?? there's no merit https://imgur.com/a/­JuEHn

You could cry, and write short shitty posts about not having merit?

You could also engage in a lot of bounty seeking activities, and maybe attend religious ceremonies to pray for merit?

If I were you, I would not attempt to create good and engaging posts or otherwise participate in substantive threads to help other members because that may end up earning merit.  Just keep doing what you have been doing and that way you don't have to be worried about receiving any merit to weigh you down.   Wink Cheesy
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March 01, 2018, 07:01:20 AM
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What about making a new Bitcointalk?
How about creating a community site that has no merit system?

Activity is good, but merit system is the worst.
I wish something like "Like" on Twitter.
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March 01, 2018, 07:06:19 AM
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I had noticed those two different pages too, recently, and I wished that there was a better way to toggle through those kinds of settings.  One shows the merit sent/received in the past 30 and the other shows the merit sent/received in the past 120 days.  I don't know why it is set up that way, but like I mentioned, I wished there were tabs that would allow the ability to toggle between different time periods such as 30 days and 120 days and maybe some other select time period options.

+1 on this. Particularly add all time merits received and given so the history isn't hidden after this has been in place for 3 months.



What about making a new Bitcointalk?
How about creating a community site that has no merit system?

Activity is good, but merit system is the worst.
I wish something like "Like" on Twitter.

Many people have tried to set up alternative forums before. Thay all failed to generate enough content or traffic to make them work. Feel free to have a go yourself if you think you can do better.

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March 01, 2018, 07:19:58 AM
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I have no merit click Sad what will i do ?? there's no merit https://imgur.com/a/­JuEHn

You could cry, and write short shitty posts about not having merit?

You could also engage in a lot of bounty seeking activities, and maybe attend religious ceremonies to pray for merit?

If I were you, I would not attempt to create good and engaging posts or otherwise participate in substantive threads to help other members because that may end up earning merit.  Just keep doing what you have been doing and that way you don't have to be worried about receiving any merit to weigh you down.   Wink Cheesy
Thanks, but i what to be an Full member or Member Sad

All we have to do now is DO THE BESTS as we can do, to be more constractive and be help to the forum for posting more useful posts.
Hope so it will be worthful and be work out.
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March 01, 2018, 07:54:07 AM
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I have no merit click Sad what will i do ?? there's no merit

You could cry, and write short shitty posts about not having merit?

You could also engage in a lot of bounty seeking activities, and maybe attend religious ceremonies to pray for merit?

If I were you, I would not attempt to create good and engaging posts or otherwise participate in substantive threads to help other members because that may end up earning merit.  Just keep doing what you have been doing and that way you don't have to be worried about receiving any merit to weigh you down.   Wink Cheesy
Thanks, but i what to be an Full member or Member Sad

It is all about the trust of others here in the forum and the help you can provide.
As I see you are doing real estate things, if I were you I would start thread and replay others question regarding real estate/bitcoin here.
With this there will be members who will donate merit to you

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March 01, 2018, 09:00:23 AM
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Do the benefits regenerate over time? Or just a source that can get it? Smerits that we have in the beginning will not regenerate after completion? Only we will get 1/2 of the advantages we receive right.
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March 01, 2018, 09:19:36 AM
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I have no merit click Sad what will i do ?? there's no merit

You could cry, and write short shitty posts about not having merit?

You could also engage in a lot of bounty seeking activities, and maybe attend religious ceremonies to pray for merit?

If I were you, I would not attempt to create good and engaging posts or otherwise participate in substantive threads to help other members because that may end up earning merit.  Just keep doing what you have been doing and that way you don't have to be worried about receiving any merit to weigh you down.   Wink Cheesy

It's not that easy to get merit when he obviously lacks English proficiency.

People who write substantive, important posts are usually proficient in english. And the ones who aren't usually try, but probably don't get merit because of the bias between their language barrier and native speakers.

I feel as though that's a problem on bitcointalk, tbh. It's like an invisible ceiling that, no matter how active a foreign speaker gets, they'll not be able to advance because it's harder for them to get merits.


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March 01, 2018, 09:50:37 AM
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I have no merit click Sad what will i do ?? there's no merit

You could cry, and write short shitty posts about not having merit?

You could also engage in a lot of bounty seeking activities, and maybe attend religious ceremonies to pray for merit?

If I were you, I would not attempt to create good and engaging posts or otherwise participate in substantive threads to help other members because that may end up earning merit.  Just keep doing what you have been doing and that way you don't have to be worried about receiving any merit to weigh you down.   Wink Cheesy

It's not that easy to get merit when he obviously lacks English proficiency.

People who write substantive, important posts are usually proficient in english. And the ones who aren't usually try, but probably don't get merit because of the bias between their language barrier and native speakers.

I feel as though that's a problem on bitcointalk, tbh. It's like an invisible ceiling that, no matter how active a foreign speaker gets, they'll not be able to advance because it's harder for them to get merits.

Before I posted, I did a quick review of his posts, and there are a lot of shitty ones, and yeah some in other languages, and bounty seeking and other one-liners in English.  If he wants to rank up then he needs to participate in English and to improve his English skills. 

Sure, it is possible that he could receive some merits on the local boards, too, but the way the system is now, seems to be biased in favor of making good English posts, as you recognize.  I doubt that is going to change any time soon, but hey, it is possible that Theymos will attempt to ensure that there are some merit sources who are participating in some of the local boards - to the extent that Theymos may be able recognize members who may be good in that regard or highly recommended by a trusted member to be good to become a merit source.

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March 01, 2018, 01:43:35 PM
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Sure, it is possible that he could receive some merits on the local boards, too, but the way the system is now, seems to be biased in favor of making good English posts, as you recognize.  I doubt that is going to change any time soon, but hey, it is possible that Theymos will attempt to ensure that there are some merit sources who are participating in some of the local boards - to the extent that Theymos may be able recognize members who may be good in that regard or highly recommended by a trusted member to be good to become a merit source.

More sources can and will have to be added over time and this includes local board merit sources as quality posters in those languages will suffer, but the merit system is only a month old and will have some growing pains for a while but is probably nothing that can't be fixed.

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Someone created a thread about a merit ponzi that made me laugh:

If you feel this merit system is as dumb as it sounds, then you got my merit. Make a comment, +1 merit. Upvote the last comment, and hopefully the next comment will do the same. Maybe then you can rank up in this forum and actually be noticed. Its gonna take double the time and effort, but if your already posting here, then you know that.

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March 01, 2018, 02:00:28 PM
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Someone created a thread about a merit ponzi that made me laugh:

If you feel this merit system is as dumb as it sounds, then you got my merit. Make a comment, +1 merit. Upvote the last comment, and hopefully the next comment will do the same. Maybe then you can rank up in this forum and actually be noticed. Its gonna take double the time and effort, but if your already posting here, then you know that.

Looks like somebody is about the be banned. 


More sources can and will have to be added over time and this includes local board merit sources as quality posters in those languages will suffer, but the merit system is only a month old and will have some growing pains for a while but is probably nothing that can't be fixed.

I was trying to figure out how to do just that earlier in this thread, but it was shot down rather hard.  Whatever is thought up as a source will need to be unbiased as well as not have the ability to be abused which is going to be very difficult.
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March 01, 2018, 02:12:23 PM
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I have no merit click Sad what will i do ?? there's no merit
It's hard to tell as the image does not work but I assume you are asking why "+Merit" link does not show up.
It will show up once you obtain Merit and hence sMerit, and then you are ready to send sMerit.
With 0 sMerit, "+Merit" link does not show up, though the exception is the case where you obtain sMerits and run out of them, in which case "+Merit" link will remain regardless you have 0 sMerit.
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March 01, 2018, 05:34:34 PM
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I want to more merdit
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March 01, 2018, 05:48:39 PM
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I want to more merdit

First, please learn better english because to communicate in board beside your local board must be using english. Then, because you are still a newbie, you dont need merit that much because you only need 10 merits to rank up to a member rank, and from newbie to ranks it will take about 75 days iirc, so you just need to score 1 merit per week and in my opinion it is not that hard because there will be more merits circulating in the forum in the future.

The key is you need to keep pushing yourself to be better as a member of this community and the merits will come to you later.
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March 01, 2018, 07:02:38 PM
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Is this allowed, ask people to review my posts and I will review them posts?
I have some sMerits for how long i can keep them without spending?

Currently, there is no such things like merits expiring after certain time. But it is mentioned in merits page that the admin may introduce future is hording of merits is being practiced. Regarding asking users to submit their posts for review, you can do that. A lot of members here  have already done that (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2832127.msg29032781#msg29032781). This is a good option for a member who does not have the time to search for quality posts in different sections.

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March 01, 2018, 07:20:52 PM
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I want to more merdit

You have made only six posts so far and just have  a look at what you have posted so far:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1318019;sa=showPosts

You started with pots in alt coins bounties section and also made a  post with single word "good". I am really doubtful if someone here has enough merit to reward you for such posting history.
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March 01, 2018, 08:25:25 PM
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I have no merit click Sad what will i do ?? there's no merit

Here is what you should do:

1) Stop making so many posts as it is not giving any result at all. You should spend that time analyzing your mistakes. Go through your posts and see if they contain detailed information and are easy to understand. You can ask your friends here (if you have) to go through your posts and give you some suggestions.

2) Make good use of merit stats page. You can find different posts getting good number of merit points there. Try to find common pattern among all those posts and implement it in your future posts.

Hope you will become an example for others.
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March 01, 2018, 08:53:01 PM
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Is this allowed, ask people to review my posts and I will review them posts?
I have some sMerits for how long i can keep them without spending?

I would like to know if this is allowed, too. Smiley I don't have a chance to be a regular on the boards because I travel a lot for work. Some weeks I have a lot of downtime, and then I can be gone for two, three weeks. That being said, I've always tried (even before the merit system was in place) to make positive contributions to posts, at least to the extent that I can as a non-tech-savvy-'newbie'  Roll Eyes. I really don't know what more I can do to contribute and make answers worthy of merit, if I know little to none about mining or coding. All I can do is pass on the knowledge I've gained on this board, or to share my analysis of recent news and developments, to the best of my ability.

Some have broached the topic of why merit matters so much, and it's a great question. I know ranking matters for the ones who are pursuing signature campaigns, but that's not a goal of mine... not enough time at the moment! That being said, I think the idea of ranking up matters to all of us because.. let's face it. If you're in crypto, you've got a bit of a competitive streak. You're a risk taker. And people who fit that profile need to see some sort of gain or at least a sense of moving upwards or forwards in order to stay motivated to continue. Its true of any game you might play - if you don't see yourself moving up the levels, you lose steam. Even though it shouldn't matter, it does bug me when I make an effort to post something that took some thought, or some research, or the application of some knowledge, and it just gets lost in the chatter.

I'd love to be able to ask those in the 'know' if they can review my posts so I can at least know what I'm doing right, what I'm doing wrong, and how to do better!
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March 01, 2018, 09:55:41 PM
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I think it's unfair, we have to take all the Merits and earn them again.All once were freshmen, I am not sure that from the first days the simple worker suddenly became the chronicler ,all learned from the mistakes, but these people safely received the ratings . What do we see now ? Merits are acquired or transferred under the contract, but not by beautiful mail . This is a place where people communicate with each other , someone says sloppy, who is beautiful and who does not know English well, we are all different, but we have a common interest in this cryptocurrency .

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March 01, 2018, 10:08:18 PM
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transferred under the contract, but not by beautiful mail .
DA FUQ are you trying to say?  Posts like this are the ones that I normally skip right over and which usually lead me to put the author on ignore.  Your post, which I'm sure you're unaware of, requires mental gymnastics to decipher--and there's too many posts to read here and too little time in the day.   I'm not going to waste a nanosecond on such a post. 

You might have a grand idea in your head, but what came out on the screen is a scrambled eggs mess of words that don't quite make sense. 

This post is just one of thousands I've read.  These users think they're brilliant writers, that's the punchline here.  And I'll keep showing up to remind them that they're not.  You don't need to make longer posts.  What you need to do is learn at least the importance of spelling, grammar, and punctuation.   Once you have that epiphany, learn how to use those basic language skills to write something decent.  Expanding your vocabulary wouldn't be bad either.

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March 01, 2018, 10:08:26 PM
Merited by JayJuanGee (1)
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Is this allowed, ask people to review my posts and I will review them posts?
I have some sMerits for how long i can keep them without spending?

I would like to know if this is allowed, too. Smiley I don't have a chance to be a regular on the boards because I travel a lot for work. Some weeks I have a lot of downtime, and then I can be gone for two, three weeks. That being said, I've always tried (even before the merit system was in place) to make positive contributions to posts, at least to the extent that I can as a non-tech-savvy-'newbie'  Roll Eyes. I really don't know what more I can do to contribute and make answers worthy of merit, if I know little to none about mining or coding. All I can do is pass on the knowledge I've gained on this board, or to share my analysis of recent news and developments, to the best of my ability.

Some have broached the topic of why merit matters so much, and it's a great question. I know ranking matters for the ones who are pursuing signature campaigns, but that's not a goal of mine... not enough time at the moment! That being said, I think the idea of ranking up matters to all of us because.. let's face it. If you're in crypto, you've got a bit of a competitive streak. You're a risk taker. And people who fit that profile need to see some sort of gain or at least a sense of moving upwards or forwards in order to stay motivated to continue. Its true of any game you might play - if you don't see yourself moving up the levels, you lose steam. Even though it shouldn't matter, it does bug me when I make an effort to post something that took some thought, or some research, or the application of some knowledge, and it just gets lost in the chatter.

I'd love to be able to ask those in the 'know' if they can review my posts so I can at least know what I'm doing right, what I'm doing wrong, and how to do better!

Well I can review this post.

If I was a merit source, I would not award this post merit because it doesn't have enough value.

I know you put some time into the post, and it is long and well-written, but it's basically your personal experience without any valuable insight.

I boiled it down to:
1. I was here long, now not enough time to post, but I still want to rank up. <-- sort of alluding indirectly to the notion that people get more merit for posting more frequently rather than posting a few good posts.
2. I don't know how to code/mine as much as the others, so not sure how to contribute. <-- k?
3. Despite my lack of knowledge, I want to rank up because apparently everyone in crypto is an overachiever rather than otakus looking for quick gains. <-- I'm not going to make over generalizations about crypto people, and this has nothing to do with my analysis of your post, but I feel like I've met enough people in crypto discord groups who don't even know how a blockchain works but have a portfolio of over 5 altcoins Cheesy.
4. I want to know if it's allowed if members can review each other's posts. <-- In PMs you can do that. If you want to start or reply to threads to review each other's posts... I'm not sure if you see that it's mostly spam. Or post count inflation. Or both. If you can do it in PM, then do it in PM with another member who is your friend or something.

Here are a few tips on getting merits:

1. Add something to the thread that's new and that no one knows about or few people know about. Like if there's a thread in bitcoin discussion about whether or not bitcoin will continue to grow (LOL the most generic question), then don't give a generic answer. Provide some valuable insight, like a new development. For example, Warren Buffet just tweeted that he's going to get into crypto and he's also placing incentives in his companies for people to incorporate crypto (didn't happen btw). Something like that. Add spice to a thread.

2. Technical / newbie help. If someone has a problem, solve it. If you don't know the answer, and you're desperate for merits. Spend an hour googling and write up some kind of solution using the words "I THINK THIS WILL WORK" and provide a full disclaimer that you used Google, but to the best of your judgment, it's gucci.

3. Start an intellectual thread on bitcoin/altcoin forecast. There are updates to bitcoin core and other alts. Provide some key insights to how those would impact the coin and the economy + mainstream. If you think hard enough and it sounds really good, people will merit you.

4. Navigate to the routine merit giveaways. I've seen them, you've seen them. Members are offering sMerits and merits to people for participating in their contests/giveaways. Some of them only require that you post 10 things (long things btw) and that you link those posts in their giveaway threads.

5. Be a scam shark. Hawk a member who you think is planning to scam someone, write up a detailed analysis on why. If you're right, you'll be hailed a hero.

6. Write up an anlysis on which current new altcoins you think are going to do go 10x. Obviously this has to be more than a shill post. It has to be a thoughtful, detailed analysis about the team, roadmap, progress, etc. such that people will realize you're not shilling, but are giving an analysis.

7. Make new threads about fun things related to crypto. Can't be spam. Something like, "Did you guys know Ashton Kutcher has his own crypto wallet company?" Or you know, fun quiz facts that you've collected (and are related) that you can mingle together into a really cohesive, well-articulated OP.

Hope this helps Smiley.

I'm still 4 weeks away from worrying about merits or sMerits. And so I'm not exactly merit-hungry yet Cheesy

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