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March 29, 2018, 07:42:31 AM
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I do not get any and Merit. I do good posts. Still no merit is given to me. I request you to verify that I am eligible for Merit. If you like my posts, then give me a Merit gift.
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March 29, 2018, 08:21:38 AM
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It is hard to complain about merit system specially when it put control on system abuse, but it require lot of learning for users to understand how merit works. in lack on that, no matter what quality you bring, if your post read by educated person, you might get merit otherwise not possible.

But every good thing comes with drawback and i wish we could do more to educate people how merit works.

It's rather like, if your post read by educated person having Spendable Merit then you might get merit otherwise it's not possible  Tongue

True, people have no clue that there is something called sMerit as well, and some think spending sMerit will take away their merits.
Seriously majority don't have any clue of this new system.
I also didn't know much until i got through all those FAQ threads, which newbies usually dont read.
Looks like it'll be better to show sMerit stat just under Merit in profile, so people would try to figure out, what that number is
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March 29, 2018, 08:22:26 AM
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I do not get any and Merit. I do good posts. Still no merit is given to me. I request you to verify that I am eligible for Merit. If you like my posts, then give me a Merit gift.

I will be calling that merit begging.. you fuck...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  perhaps not "excessive begging" but makes you ineligible to receive merit from me, at least in the short term.   Tongue Tongue... and if you reform your merit begging ways, then I may reconsider the possibility of giving your merit.. perhaps?, somewhere down the road.. several months later...  

 But likely no one is going to get any merit from me, personally, unless I see something that stimulates me into wanting to give merit..... For example, provide some interesting content.. share some interesting ideas.. add a little humor... or other kind of insight that causes me to learn about the world or about bitcoin or some other pertinent part of my then expected life... Wink  Cheesy

Of course, we have to deal with ESG, KYC & AML, but each of them are attack vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized.

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March 29, 2018, 09:54:16 AM
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I do not get any and Merit. I do good posts. Still no merit is given to me. I request you to verify that I am eligible for Merit. If you like my posts, then give me a Merit gift.

Your post quality after a quick browse doesn’t look bad at all. You’ve obviously just been unlucky, keep up your current posting style & you won’t be far off getting a couple of Merit points soon.


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March 29, 2018, 12:16:14 PM
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I have a friend whos already a full member here before no merit needed in order to rank up, he said merit rules is new this is to avoid spam on the forum and only constructive and helpful reply will b given a merit
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March 29, 2018, 12:57:19 PM
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on another view, one will refuse to use their merits which very hard to earn, in order to make other be better, and lower their own " intelectual "


Merits and sMerits are not the same thing. Awarding sMerit does not diminish your merit score, or affect your ranking block.

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March 29, 2018, 03:09:26 PM
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I have a friend whos already a full member here before no merit needed in order to rank up, he said merit rules is new this is to avoid spam on the forum and only constructive and helpful reply will b given a merit
I don't think your thread is constructive, helpful, or useful, and of course, non-deserved merits. Why you published the thread with lots of basic information which everyone (not lazy users) can get in the OP of the topic (Theymos stated very clear in the OP).
If you only posted the thread to get activity-count, it's good for you; but looks like a spam in several aspects.

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March 29, 2018, 06:22:25 PM
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I understand but I dont know what to post to get merit from other  Cry
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March 29, 2018, 06:30:24 PM
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I understand but I dont know what to post to get merit from other  Cry

My suggestion for you is, start by helping people in need in your local board, there are so many potential merit giver there and all the moderators of the local board are also a merit sources too, so using your own language and a high quality posts, you can increase the chance of yourself getting merit from others.

But, as i see your posts, i think it is a hard task to achieve, but it is not impossible if you start to learn about things (bitcoin and cryptocurrency).
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March 29, 2018, 06:55:48 PM
Merited by MagicSmoker (1)
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I do not get any and Merit. I do good posts. Still no merit is given to me. I request you to verify that I am eligible for Merit. If you like my posts, then give me a Merit gift.

Your post quality after a quick browse doesn’t look bad at all. You’ve obviously just been unlucky, keep up your current posting style & you won’t be far off getting a couple of Merit points soon.

His post quality doesn't look bad, because he has been plagiarizing stuff?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
One thing that introduction of merit has done is bring out the greed in lazy posters - they want to get merit and rank up immediately.

Calling Bitcoin the 'biggest bubble in human history', eminent economist Nouriel Roubini predicted that the virtual currency - currently on a tailspin that erased nearly $500 billion of market value over the past month - will crash to zero value.
Roubini, also known as 'Dr Doom' for accurately predicting the 2008 financial crisis warned that some people would use a market manipulation tactic known as wash trading to prop up the price.
Wash trading in the crypto world involves someone buying and selling their own order to manipulate markets.
A professor of economics at Stern School, part of the New York University, Roubini has been sceptical about Bitcoin since its inception, calling it a "gigantic speculative bubble."

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March 29, 2018, 07:08:06 PM
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I do not get any and Merit. I do good posts. Still no merit is given to me. I request you to verify that I am eligible for Merit. If you like my posts, then give me a Merit gift.
snip

His post quality doesn't look bad, because he has been plagiarizing stuff?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
One thing that introduction of merit has done is bring out the greed in lazy posters - they want to get merit and rank up immediately.

Calling Bitcoin the 'biggest bubble in human history', eminent economist Nouriel Roubini predicted that the virtual currency - currently on a tailspin that erased nearly $500 billion of market value over the past month - will crash to zero value.
Roubini, also known as 'Dr Doom' for accurately predicting the 2008 financial crisis warned that some people would use a market manipulation tactic known as wash trading to prop up the price.
Wash trading in the crypto world involves someone buying and selling their own order to manipulate markets.
A professor of economics at Stern School, part of the New York University, Roubini has been sceptical about Bitcoin since its inception, calling it a "gigantic speculative bubble."

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Wow, from a simple words of merit begging turns to a finding of a plagiarism case, that was very quick, and i guess that amzad will be regretting all what he said in this thread because now his account has the chances to get banned because of the plagiarism.

A lesson for all of us :
1. Dont say something bad that will attract people to crosschecking you.
2. Dont ever do plagiarism, in real life or internet.
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March 29, 2018, 09:02:36 PM
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[amzad's] post quality doesn't look bad, because he has been plagiarizing stuff?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
One thing that introduction of merit has done is bring out the greed in lazy posters - they want to get merit and rank up immediately.
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Lol, outstanding work! I've been seeing more plagiarizing, too, and I report it every time.

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March 30, 2018, 02:44:55 AM
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His post quality doesn't look bad, because he has been plagiarizing stuff?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
One thing that introduction of merit has done is bring out the greed in lazy posters - they want to get merit and rank up immediately.
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Wow, interesting discovery. So why not reporting the guy to the following topic:
Plagiarism and copy/paste posts

Plagiarism is one of the most restricted things in the forum as the topic below presents:
Unofficial rules of bitcointalk forum
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March 30, 2018, 03:05:39 AM
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This merit system is good system to eliminate those spammers. Smiley But it is hard to get merit, because i need merit to rank up. Iddd will hard work to gain more merits. Smiley
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March 30, 2018, 03:18:11 AM
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This merit system is good system to eliminate those spammers. Smiley
Hasn't taken care of you yet, though the ignore button is proving to be a nice feature.

But it is hard to get merit, because i need merit to rank up.
Let's rearrange this sentence to it's equivalent "Because I need merit to rank up, it is hard to get merit" and take the but out.  Does that sound like a logical thought?  No. 

What would be logical is "It's hard to get merit, and I'm not ranking up".  This is true, and I would add that you can expect to never rank up if you keep writing the way you are. 

You could also write "It's hard to get merit and I need it to rank up", to which I'd respond that you're whining and don't have a grasp on how bad your posts are.  You need a reality check.

Iddd will hard work to gain more merits. Smiley
If you consider what you wrote here to be hard work, then I weep for your country, your employer, and anyone who is dependent on your income.  You've proven in one sentence that you lack the requisite language skills to be posting here.  Either go back to square one and learn how to put together a sentence or just go away.  This forum doesn't need its pipes clogged with what you're flushing.

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March 30, 2018, 03:30:49 AM
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Agree, The Pharmacist !
The guy, namely Mystogan915 should read this topic which created by TMAN before making next threads in the forum. His next threads should be more grammatical-corrected, more logically. Improving skills, improving English language, writing better threads are one of the most effective ways to contribute to the forum.
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What would be logical is "It's hard to get merit, and I'm not ranking up".  This is true, and I would add that you can expect to never rank up if you keep writing the way you are.  

You could also write "It's hard to get merit and I need it to rank up", to which I'd respond that you're whining and don't have a grasp on how bad your posts are.  You need a reality check.
Using pseudo-English should be avoid as less as possible.
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March 30, 2018, 03:46:29 AM
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This is the end of shit poster's, Lets adapt the new merit system, I know this is for our own good, Everybody in the forum are obligue to do it or else they will remain stagnant in their position, Actually i admit that i had a hard time to construct quality post but i realize if im not going to do it, How can i improve myself? This system is a great challenge for me and i am willing to do it to become a better participant in the forum.. best wishes and goodluck to everyone of us:)
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March 30, 2018, 06:35:50 PM
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Real talk.
      When I first encounter merit system I say it's a nice new system to eliminate shit poster, but now I experience how difficult to earn merit and I feel I'll just stuck with my rank forever.

      Theirs a lot of good poster here that's not even recognize. Is merit  system done automatically or just by manual reading by those people are giving merit,  because it's unfair for those really deserve it and needs to rank up.
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March 30, 2018, 06:45:18 PM
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Real talk.
      When I first encounter merit system I say it's a nice new system to eliminate shit poster, but now I experience how difficult to earn merit and I feel I'll just stuck with my rank forever.

      Theirs a lot of good poster here that's not even recognize. Is merit  system done automatically or just by manual reading by those people are giving merit,  because it's unfair for those really deserve it and needs to rank up.

There are plenty of members here receiving merits for their quality posts. After reviewing your post history, it's apparent why you don't receive any merits. Your posts are shit, and mainly in megathreads. You're a shitposter.

The merit system is doing exactly what it was designed to do.

Come on, do you really believe that posts like these deserve any merit? These are the first few posts I grabbed from your most recent post history...

At first I don't really believe in Bitcoin I thought it was a scam but my friend told me about it, his earnings. And I started to read some feedback in internet about Bitcoin. My friend guided me how to start.

Life in Bitcoin is exciting especially when I get my first payment it helps me in the time's when I really need money. Bitcoin life is a nice experience that is also good to share to other.

Each country has their own currency that symbolize their own identity and status. Replacing those in one currency like Bitcoin is impossible to happen.

Involvement in Bitcoin is a serious matter you in terms of time and effort. But after that you will see the results of all your labor. For me I will choose Bitcoin first for my future living.

My advice to you? Stop posting in megathreads. Stop posting just to get your post/activity count up. Stop posting single sentence generic posts that are not contributive to the thread. Stop posting the same answer that has already been posted before you. Make conscious efforts to try to provide quality content here, rather than just your generic opinions that, in the end, don't matter.

"Real talk."

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March 30, 2018, 07:04:17 PM
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      Theirs a lot of good poster here that's not even recognize. Is merit  system done automatically or just by manual reading by those people are giving merit,  because it's unfair for those really deserve it and needs to rank up.

Merit is a community driven feature. There are two classes of members who can award merits. Merit sources are long term members who are trusted by Theymos to dispense merits where deserved, and who won't sell merits. They receive a monthly quota regardless of their posting. The other members who can award merits ( known as sMerits in this case) are members who have received merits as awards for their posting. The assumption is that if they are awarded merits, then they can be trusted to award a limited number themselves. In this case they are able to award a number equal to half of the merits they receive. These sMerits are newly created through the process of receiving merits, and giving them away does not affect the donor's merit count. The system is well thought out, and because it is community driven, people should look to their own abilities and actions if they are not receiving merits.

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