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March 03, 2018, 08:44:55 PM
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I think that while the merit system is good, the limits for rank upgrades are too high. I got 10 merits so I was able to upgrade to a Member, but upgrading to a Full member is an impossible task - I can't imagine how many excellent posts should I write to get another 90 merits.  Has anyone succeeded to get so many merits yet?

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March 04, 2018, 04:33:02 AM
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Do we have to find a source and report our posts to get sime merits??
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March 04, 2018, 04:39:02 AM
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I think that while the merit system is good, the limits for rank upgrades are too high. I got 10 merits so I was able to upgrade to a Member, but upgrading to a Full member is an impossible task - I can't imagine how many excellent posts should I write to get another 90 merits.  Has anyone succeeded to get so many merits yet?

You don't need excellent posts. The only thing which can bring you up the ladder now is powerful friends.

I don't know about that but as far as I know if you really are skilled and know a lot of stuffs you can share, you don't need to think of having a low rank. Most of the low ranks find this new system unfair but I think the unfair here is these type of gaining merits. It must be earned through hard work and not by asking your friends to give you some.
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March 04, 2018, 04:43:54 AM
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[quote author=Creepings
I don't know about that but as far as I know if you really are skilled and know a lot of stuffs you can share, you don't need to think of having a low rank. Most of the low ranks find this new system unfair but I think the unfair here is these type of gaining merits. It must be earned through hard work and not by asking your friends to give you some.
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If the merits are given for the friendship,its totally unfair for the new participants
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March 04, 2018, 05:00:41 AM
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Do we have to find a source and report our posts to get sime merits??

No, that's not how it should work. Make high-quality posts that others will find useful, informative, and interesting. Other members will send you merit for that kind of posts. In general, you shouldn't ask for merit to anyone, including merit sources. That's one of the reasons why the list of merit source is not made public.

 
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March 04, 2018, 06:35:52 AM
 #3366

I think that while the merit system is good, the limits for rank upgrades are too high. I got 10 merits so I was able to upgrade to a Member, but upgrading to a Full member is an impossible task - I can't imagine how many excellent posts should I write to get another 90 merits.  Has anyone succeeded to get so many merits yet?

You are right that it is hard to achieve but definitely not impossible. I remember one of the members getting 60-70 merits for a single thread. He might have become a full member now but I am not sure. My advice is that just keep making good quality posts as we may see some relaxation in rules in future.


Do we have to find a source and report our posts to get sime merits??

You can find out the merit sources if you see carefully the members giving highest number of merits. Admin has however mentioned in the official thread that the merit sources had not been made public as members may start begging for it.

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March 04, 2018, 09:16:50 AM
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Do we have to find a source and report our posts to get sime merits??

No, that's not how it should work. Make high-quality posts that others will find useful, informative, and interesting. Other members will send you merit for that kind of posts. In general, you shouldn't ask for merit to anyone, including merit sources. That's one of the reasons why the list of merit source is not made public.

Thank you very much 😊🙂
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March 04, 2018, 09:29:44 AM
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Also I need to know that,
Will the merits will be given only to the posts which are related to cryptocurrency?
Or if we answer well to any kind of  question,will we get merit...?
Or does depends on the merit source?
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March 04, 2018, 09:45:54 AM
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Also I need to know that,
Will the merits will be given only to the posts which are related to cryptocurrency?
Or if we answer well to any kind of  question,will we get merit...?
Or does depends on the merit source?

Totally up to the user. Personally it is unlikely for me to merit things I don't understand or have an interest in

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March 04, 2018, 10:23:52 AM
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Also I need to know that,
Will the merits will be given only to the posts which are related to cryptocurrency?
Or if we answer well to any kind of  question,will we get merit...?
Or does depends on the merit source?

It is not necessary that you will get merit points for discussions related to cryptocurrency. Here are some places you can get merit points:

1) A lot of posts in meta section and especially in this particular official thread has got merits. You should thus try to post here often. I guess this is because a lot of senior members check this section often.

2) Even if you do not have exceptional writing skills, you can get some merits. For instance, some members got merits for creating useful infographic related to the forum.

Try to avoid the local boards if merit points are your only target as there might be less  number of merit sources there.
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Last edit: March 04, 2018, 04:10:47 PM by RrelXRrel
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HI GUYS. HOW TO MERIT SOMEONE? I CANT FIND THE MERIT BUTTON.
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March 04, 2018, 12:17:12 PM
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HI GUYS. HOW TO MERIT SOMEONE? I CANT FIND THE MERTI BUTTON.

It must be related to using unnecessary large coloured fonts. This guy has the same problem 2 pages back. try reading the answers they were given. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg31472924#msg31472924

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March 04, 2018, 12:50:55 PM
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I strongly believe Merit system should only start once you become Sr. Member -> Hero -> Legendary
Let the system decide who reaches Sr. Member Activity + Post are fair enough criteria already.

Now its purely in hands of other people if they let you progress or stay as Jr. Member forever.
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There is a lot of space for improvement in the merit system, but the first goal - to reduce shitpost - was achieved, at least in part.
And - if you give a fast look - there is a general improvement of the post quality: I see less and less one line post.

Then, there are a lot of opinions about how to improve the system.
For my part, I received 16 real merits starting from zero, so - even slowly - it's possible to grow. But I received them in the italian section, where there are only few people and zero spam, so it's very simple to be read and - if it's the case - appreciated.

In the international zone, the real problem is to catch attention: even if you make a very good post, you need to hope that someone will read it, and - if he likes it - he has merit to give.

Actually, this is the biggest problem that I see, a too limited number of merit in circulation, that make the situation too static.

But I'm very positive that we'll find a solution.


I strongly believe Merit system should only start once you become Sr. Member -> Hero -> Legendary
Let the system decide who reaches Sr. Member Activity + Post are fair enough criteria already.

Now its purely in hands of other people if they let you progress or stay as Jr. Member forever.

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March 04, 2018, 02:06:23 PM
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In the international zone, the real problem is to catch attention: even if you make a very good post, you need to hope that someone will read it, and - if he likes it - he has merit to give.

Actually, this is the biggest problem that I see, a too limited number of merit in circulation, that make the situation too static.

But I'm very positive that we'll find a solution.

I agree. The international sections are just too crowded. Even in a small section like this (Meta) good posts are often left unnoticed, let alone on a huge section like Bitcoin and Altcoin Discussion. Moreover, those big sections are still flooded with low-quality posts now, a month after the merit system introduced. I'm not sure those sections quality could be improved solely by this system. I'm also not sure whether adding the number of merit sources, thus increasing the number of new merit in circulation, could solve the issue.

I would love to hear theymos' opinion about this.

 
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March 04, 2018, 02:44:54 PM
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In the international zone, the real problem is to catch attention: even if you make a very good post, you need to hope that someone will read it, and - if he likes it - he has merit to give.

Actually, this is the biggest problem that I see, a too limited number of merit in circulation, that make the situation too static.

But I'm very positive that we'll find a solution.

I agree. The international sections are just too crowded. Even in a small section like this (Meta) good posts are often left unnoticed, let alone on a huge section like Bitcoin and Altcoin Discussion. Moreover, those big sections are still flooded with low-quality posts now, a month after the merit system introduced. I'm not sure those sections quality could be improved solely by this system. I'm also not sure whether adding the number of merit sources, thus increasing the number of new merit in circulation, could solve the issue.

I would love to hear theymos' opinion about this.

The only effective solution imo is to regulate signature campaign, for examples :
Prohibit low ranks from joining it, allowing only members+ or even full members+ (having +5-10 merit or not is useless) to join.
A list of signature managers and impose a moderator for every 3-5 of them, every campaign manager seems to not care about spam and shit-posting should be removed as a manger for 3 months at least.
Impose a moderate amount of posts per period, for example asking for more than 35 posts per week and especially +20 of them in a specific section is simply asking the crowd to spam this section..

 
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March 04, 2018, 02:58:21 PM
 #3377

I think that while the merit system is good, the limits for rank upgrades are too high. I got 10 merits so I was able to upgrade to a Member, but upgrading to a Full member is an impossible task - I can't imagine how many excellent posts should I write to get another 90 merits. Has anyone succeeded to get so many merits yet?

Its not that high, have patience and dedication mate. Have confidence, I'm sure if you do a great job making quality posts (that is by helping other folks with useful information) you're going to rank up soon.

Indeed there was, and he's just one them.

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You don't need excellent posts. The only thing which can bring you up the ladder now is powerful friends.

If you don't need excellent/quality posts to improve and rank up, how then? Oh right, powerful friends. Something's smells fishy here, well if you say so, I'm not gonna be surprised on how you get the other 29 Merits you have right now.

 
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March 04, 2018, 03:02:28 PM
 #3378

Do we have to find a source and report our posts to get sime merits??

Yah. Its there any chance for us to have merited? I dont want to be stuck up in just only Jr. Member. I want to become a member! Why is so hard to get merit?
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March 04, 2018, 03:03:45 PM
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I strongly believe Merit system should only start once you become Sr. Member -> Hero -> Legendary
Let the system decide who reaches Sr. Member Activity + Post are fair enough criteria already.
Rules should be applied to all people, whatever the rank. So every member should gain merit to rank up, else he will stay in his current rank forever. I respect your suggestion, but I don't think that is fair for high rank members, (Sr member to legendary)

Now its purely in hands of other people if they let you progress or stay as Jr. Member forever.
If you post high quality posts and you deserve merit points, you will reach the next rank as soon as possible if you have enough activities.
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March 04, 2018, 03:09:44 PM
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Do we have to find a source and report our posts to get sime merits??

Yah. Its there any chance for us to have merited? I dont want to be stuck up in just only Jr. Member. I want to become a member! Why is so hard to get merit?

A suggestion for you. Have a look at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=recent from time to time and then read the posts that received merit and the threads they are in. Then compare that to your own posting history. You'll work it out.

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