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March 19, 2018, 03:17:42 AM
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...who wants to profit by creating multiple accounts and selling to people who are desperate and lazy.

New accounts don't have any merit/Smerit so multiple accounts is not possible, but I am pretty sure they will find some way to cheat the system.

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March 19, 2018, 09:00:09 AM
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...who wants to profit by creating multiple accounts and selling to people who are desperate and lazy.

New accounts don't have any merit/Smerit so multiple accounts is not possible, but I am pretty sure they will find some way to cheat the system.

All they can do is buy some merit points from members who are selling them. Such deals might be happening outside the forum and mods will not be able to catch all those deals. However, this will automatically decrease with time. After few months, the default merits of all the members will be spent and thus they will not be able to sell their merit points.
Then we will see merit coming from merit sources mainly and it is not possible to bribe merit sources to give merit points for money as they are established members.
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March 19, 2018, 02:35:09 PM
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All they can do is buy some merit points from members who are selling them. Such deals might be happening outside the forum and mods will not be able to catch all those deals. However, this will automatically decrease with time. After few months, the default merits of all the members will be spent and thus they will not be able to sell their merit points.
Then we will see merit coming from merit sources mainly and it is not possible to bribe merit sources to give merit points for money as they are established members.
Moderators can not know where they make their deals, but all evidence will be shown up in their merit histories. What do you think if low quality, one line threads received so many merits (10, 20, or 50 merit points)? It is really easy to find. Moderators will have solution for such merit abused cases. Don't worry, keep doing what you should and have to do to rank up (keep writing high-qualitied posts).
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March 19, 2018, 02:46:09 PM
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I think it's daily.
Isn't he talking about the sMerit given to merit sources?
The source sMerit will come back in 30 days after its spending date. If you sent 5 source sMerit on 18 March, you should receive 5 source sMerit again on 18 April. So if you spent it daily during the previous month then you'll receive it every day in the next month.

Really? I never got one sMerit back ... or will this happen 30 days after I've sent ALL of my sMerit? I thought we don't ever get sMerit back automatically.
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March 19, 2018, 02:53:38 PM
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I think it's daily.
Isn't he talking about the sMerit given to merit sources?
The source sMerit will come back in 30 days after its spending date. If you sent 5 source sMerit on 18 March, you should receive 5 source sMerit again on 18 April. So if you spent it daily during the previous month then you'll receive it every day in the next month.

Really? I never got one sMerit back ... or will this happen 30 days after I've sent ALL of my sMerit? I thought we don't ever get sMerit back automatically.

Because you are not a Merit source.

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March 19, 2018, 02:54:08 PM
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Really? I never got one sMerit back ... or will this happen 30 days after I've sent ALL of my sMerit? I thought we don't ever get sMerit back automatically.
I was referring to the merit sources. If you're not a merit source you won't get your sMerit back.
Certain users are designated as "merit sources". They can create new merit out of nothing, up to a limited number per month (which differs per source).
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March 19, 2018, 03:24:53 PM
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Really? I never got one sMerit back ... or will this happen 30 days after I've sent ALL of my sMerit? I thought we don't ever get sMerit back automatically.
I was referring to the merit sources. If you're not a merit source you won't get your sMerit back.
Certain users are designated as "merit sources". They can create new merit out of nothing, up to a limited number per month (which differs per source).

I see, thanks for clarifying.
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March 19, 2018, 09:09:32 PM
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[...] merit points that can be earned by helping others or creating interesting topics.
It's a lie. To earn merit points you have to do anything, that merit sources likes. As we know, usual users (especially newbies) are not merit sources, so, doing anything which helping them is absolutely pointless.

My impression is that most of high rank users don't check frequently the altcoins sections nor local boards. [...]
But most of new users likes these sections and they don't need anything else on this forum. As i mentioned earlier, merit system is unfair to new users and stupid.

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March 19, 2018, 10:15:08 PM
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[...] merit points that can be earned by helping others or creating interesting topics.
It's a lie. To earn merit points you have to do anything, that merit sources likes. As we know, usual users (especially newbies) are not merit sources, so, doing anything which helping them is absolutely pointless.

Are you saying that merit sources would only send merits for something that directly affects them? Doesn't make any sense.

My impression is that most of high rank users don't check frequently the altcoins sections nor local boards. [...]
But most of new users likes these sections and they don't need anything else on this forum. As i mentioned earlier, merit system is unfair to new users and stupid.

If these users don't need anything else and just want to hang out in the alt sections they can still do that without merits. Nobody is getting banned for not having merits.

But I have a feeling that they do need something else... am I right?

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March 20, 2018, 02:08:15 AM
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I was wondering if my 1 merit stock forever. When my activity become 60 and my merit is only well I will not rank up. I've been having some constructive post but I didn't receive any merit that's now I am bored to have a qualified post for merit because even it is useful there's no merit that been given to me.
Tengo una duda:
Un usuario relativamente nuevo, cuantos post puede hacer en un día?
You should speak in english language so that anyone will understand. Only local board allow you to speak with your languange.
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March 20, 2018, 02:23:07 AM
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In addition to activity, everyone now has a merit score, and you need both a certain activity level and a certain merit score in order to reach higher member ranks. The required scores are:

RankRequired activityRequired merit
Brand new00
Newbie10
Jr Member300
Member6010
Full Member120100
Sr. Member240250
Hero Member480500
LegendaryRandom in the range 775-10301000

You get merit points when someone sends you some for one of your posts. Additionally, when someone sends you merit points, half of those points can be sent by you to other people.

Certain users are designated as "merit sources". They can create new merit out of nothing, up to a limited number per month (which differs per source). I will not be posting a definitive list of merit sources (so that people don't bug them too much), though you'll soon figure out who they are if you pay attention.

There is currently no such thing as a "demerit". I'm hoping that the positive merits alone will be fine. I could add demerits pretty easily later on if necessary, though.

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

Do not beg for merit excessively.

Useful infographics

Forum users have helpfully created some infographics to explain the merit system:
paxmao's infographic
ibminer's infographic
8Habits's infographic
JetSet11's infographic
zentdex's infographic
alia_armelle's infographic

If you want to be a merit source:

 1. Be a somewhat established member.
 2. Collect TEN posts written in the last couple of months by other people that have not received nearly enough merit for how good they are, and post quotes for them all in a new Meta thread. The point of this is to demonstrate your ability to give out merit usefully.
 3. We will take a look at your history and maybe make you a source.

I am especially eager to have merit sources in sub-communities such as the local sections.

Trivia:

For current members, your initial merit score is equal to the minimum required to your rank. Of that, a certain amount (less than the usual half) is spendable. The spendable amount was calculated based on your current rank and the number of activity points you earned in the last year. A Legendary member who hasn't posted in the last year would still be Legendary, but would not have any spendable merit.

If someone sends you 1 merit, the 0.5 sMerit is not wasted; it is just not shown until you get another merit point.

There are stats here, and you can find someone's merit summary by clicking the "merit" link on their profile.

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Last edit: March 20, 2018, 04:25:19 AM by fxstrike
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If these users don't need anything else and just want to hang out in the alt sections they can still do that without merits. Nobody is getting banned for not having merits.

But I have a feeling that they do need something else... am I right?
Generally others takes ranks as measure of how trustable the person is, its impact their ability to conduct certain trades at marketplace and also in their general interaction with other as higher rank members which usually regarded higher rank member as more trustable and more likely to not doing something that breach the forum rules.

I see that whenever low rank member open a topic he will be bombarded with abusive response, get ignored and in some cases get red trust from higher rank member no matter how good his suggestion is, but when high ranking member open a topic which already opened by others and suggest something that totally useless and impractical, I see that everyone just agreeing to it just because they see it is posted by high ranking member. When low rank members disagree, they get bashed.

So there is reason in part of lower rank members to want to rank up.

Why don't just remove ranking system and merit system all together if its serve no purpose and will not prevent anyone from posting or whatever, since with or without rank and merit everyone still can post anything they want its just the same as don't have it at all. It will free up resources and also probably make the software more faster and responsive without all that rank and merit complexity & logic

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March 20, 2018, 04:28:48 AM
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Im working on my grammar, I have been using my tablet and not the pc. So im usually missin a couple of punctuation marks, That and im a country boy from Arkansas so any ideas on what i could do to gain more attention? Ore possibly where i can find information to better myself please and thanks yall!!!

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March 20, 2018, 08:04:39 AM
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Hello everyone! I wanted to clarify, now stance not will depend on number of posts? only on the number of merits.
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March 20, 2018, 08:17:34 AM
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Hello everyone! I wanted to clarify, now stance not will depend on number of posts? only on the number of merits.

Here's the answer to your query

In addition to activity, everyone now has a merit score, and you need both a certain activity level and a certain merit score in order to reach higher member ranks.

So that means Merits is NOT the only requirement to rank-up. That will be Post's, Activity AND Merits. You need to have quality post's that will take the attention of people with enough sMerits to give away or those sMerits source. So regardless of how many post's you made, if you don't get Merits, you dont rank up.

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March 20, 2018, 12:37:39 PM
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Im working on my grammar, I have been using my tablet and not the pc. So im usually missin a couple of punctuation marks, That and im a country boy from Arkansas so any ideas on what i could do to gain more attention? Ore possibly where i can find information to better myself please and thanks yall!!!

Don't put over effort in grammar rather just add something valuable in whatever being discussed  Wink

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March 20, 2018, 12:42:11 PM
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Thanks for info, seems the new way is so hard. I read many oroblem about getting merit but i try my best to earn it

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March 20, 2018, 01:50:00 PM
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I now understand how merits works in this forum. I will try my best in provide useful information and giving good ideas to gain trust from my loyal reader so as to gain good merits. Thanks for the guild.
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March 20, 2018, 01:56:30 PM
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Wow! As if getting activity growth wasn't hard enough, getting merits is even more tough. This thread has been helpful though. At least I have a clearer insight on what to do. Let's see how much merit I can rake in. Blessings to the sources here and the rest
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March 20, 2018, 02:06:14 PM
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Im working on my grammar, I have been using my tablet and not the pc. So im usually missin a couple of punctuation marks, That and im a country boy from Arkansas so any ideas on what i could do to gain more attention? Ore possibly where i can find information to better myself please and thanks yall!!!

Don't put over effort in grammar rather just add something valuable in whatever being discussed  Wink

Most of the members who do not have good English think that it is almost impossible for them to get merits here. But in my opinion, they also have good chances provided they take are of :

1) Content quality: If you are compensating bad grammar with superb content here, you can still expect good number of merits. I am sure that senior members here do consider the effort being made by a remember while making a useful post.

2) Posting images of videos: In case your English is very bad, you might not be able to even frame sentences. In such a case, you can try posting images and videos related to the forum rules and can get some merits.
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