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March 22, 2018, 06:09:06 AM
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Seems like people's overall sentiments are that not enough merit is given out, is that right? I personally don't seem to see a lot of merit changing hands. Think its a great idea to incentivize good comments but not sure if it's allowing people to gain rank.

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March 22, 2018, 07:05:48 AM
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Seems like people's overall sentiments are that not enough merit is given out, is that right? I personally don't seem to see a lot of merit changing hands. Think its a great idea to incentivize good comments but not sure if it's allowing people to gain rank.

You must be looking in the wrong places, or just not looking at all. The merit stats show 110,934 merit has been sent in total. The post right above yours has an example of someone you was able to rank up. There's another here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3166903.msg32742207#msg32742207

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March 22, 2018, 07:10:09 AM
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Seems like people's overall sentiments are that not enough merit is given out, is that right? I personally don't seem to see a lot of merit changing hands. Think its a great idea to incentivize good comments but not sure if it's allowing people to gain rank.
Of course, there are allocated merits to merit sources in the forum. Those ones who are knowledgeable, active users in the forum; and they are readily to send their sMerits to who deserved merits due to their contributions to the forum, and their meaningful helps to other users with their high quality, constructive, in-context threads. In-context is very important because your thread might be high quality but it will be non-sense in the case there are available threads which solved the problems of topic's creators before yours.
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March 22, 2018, 08:17:57 AM
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i see this merit pattern of growth in rank as an indirect way of stagnation, not allowing other members to also fully rank up,  because i have been reviewing it over and over in my mind Cheesy to see how effective it will be in terms of filtering and reducing bad post, what i could come up with is a very slow way  or if not impossible way of ranking up ,

who will merit a post that is just two lines of words but actually meaningful and solve a problem? what happens to such post that is short and precise and was helpful? 😁
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March 22, 2018, 08:30:58 AM
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who will merit a post that is just two lines of words but actually meaningful and solve a problem? what happens to such post that is short and precise and was helpful? 😁

Me and lots of other people. Have a look at Bitcoin Development & Technical Discussion and Bitcoin Technical Support boards and you'll see it happens a lot. From a quick look at your post history, you are a stranger to those areas. This is a Bitcoin forum and it's right that Merit is given to people actually discussing Bitcoin rather than posts in Altcoin bounties like yours.

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March 22, 2018, 08:51:00 AM
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who will merit a post that is just two lines of words but actually meaningful and solve a problem? what happens to such post that is short and precise and was helpful? 😁

Me and lots of other people. Have a look at Bitcoin Development & Technical Discussion and Bitcoin Technical Support boards and you'll see it happens a lot. From a quick look at your post history, you are a stranger to those areas. This is a Bitcoin forum and it's right that Merit is given to people actually discussing Bitcoin rather than posts in Altcoin bounties like yours.

Eg. Retweet Airdrop$700 and WIN $700 [ Best Bounty]

Wow nice good luck to all participants



I guess that is the main problem for people, making earning money as their top priority in here. I cant deny the fact that getting money by posting several times is one of a great things to do, well i dont know about bounty because i only join once in twitter bounty and it makes me lazy to retweet and tweet and post the links in my application post but i heard it is as easy as posting shit,in fact it is easier.
Guys like this should roam more in to this forum, make contribution in your local board and other board, engage in other things beside bounty or airdrops or making money things, then you will find that even 1 or 2 lines post can be meritorious the same as long post.
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March 22, 2018, 08:57:56 AM
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Im quite disappointed with this by now. Never spammed or fudded. Compiled X11 miners for people years ago and shared. Helped and carried on. Just to be at the cusp of hero (above it now) and gettin squashed by the merit system. Cant be bothered chasing another 250 ish merits. So Senior is probably me. Who cares I suppose but still..

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March 22, 2018, 09:09:39 AM
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My opinion people take new merit when ranked up

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March 22, 2018, 01:19:39 PM
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Im quite disappointed with this by now.

Who cares I suppose but still..

So you are disappointed by something that you do not care about ?

You are already senior member after the merit system which is something really beneficial. There is an advantage to members who got the senior ranks because of default merits. They got the tag of being an established member because they joined the forum earlier. I am no one to judge this but now that you have got this advantage make good use of this. Posts you make will be given more value as it is being made by a member with senior rank. I do not give it much importance but new members might be doing so.

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March 22, 2018, 01:29:33 PM
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My opinion people take new merit when ranked up
What a shit Hero member with too many merits. Post history shows a shit show, and his thread in the topic too. Congratulations to fortunately hit Hero member rank in the forum before the time of merit system launch. You would not reach the rank if you have joined the forum after the launch of merit system and new ranking requirements activated.

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March 22, 2018, 01:44:15 PM
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My opinion people take new merit when ranked up
What a shit Hero member with too many merits. Post history shows a shit show, and his thread in the topic too. Congratulations to fortunately hit Hero member rank in the forum before the time of merit system launch. You would not reach the rank if you have joined the forum after the launch of merit system and new ranking requirements activated.

This is why we need some changes in merit system for these members who just got lucky with the current rules. The current rules considers all the senior rank members as experts irrespective of their posting history or contributions made here. There should be a requirement to get few merits per time period or per number of posts made so as to maintain the rank. This will help in number of ways. Adding the requirement of merits per time period will require all members t remain active as well. If we have such requirement per number of posts, even less active members will have a chance.

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March 22, 2018, 01:47:23 PM
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How about this case? I found this one by chance. 10 acitivities, newbie rank, 100 merits, and there is no merit history. What is this? Anyone can help to make a forensic analysis about the case (I am just kidding) because I am curious about this guy and would like to know what actually happened with the account.
Thanks all in advance.

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March 22, 2018, 01:50:30 PM
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How about this case? I found this one by chance. 10 acitivities, newbie rank, 100 merits, and there is no merit history. What is this? Anyone can help to make a forensic analysis about the case (I am just kidding) because I am curious about this guy and would like to know what actually happened with the account.
Thanks all in advance.

Someone deleted all their old posts and de-ranked themselves. No idea why anyone would do that unless maybe they bought the account and didn't want to be associated with the account farmer's spam.

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March 22, 2018, 01:51:39 PM
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How about this case? I found this one by chance. 10 acitivities, newbie rank, 100 merits, and there is no merit history. What is this? Anyone can help to make a forensic analysis about the case (I am just kidding) because I am curious about this guy and would like to know what actually happened with the account.
Thanks all in advance.
I made a thread about that and received a couple of replies, here: Question about newbies with 100+ merits
The best possibility is written in the OP. Take a look.

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March 23, 2018, 12:37:08 PM
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All those Hero Member and Legendary Member including @Theymos and DTs should be ashamed of themselves implementing this merit system. The poor guy founder who invent this technology has a very low merit than yours. Ask your self if you deserve the merit than this poor developer. Without him, you are all nothing. If this guy still here right now I doubt if he will approve this because Satoshi  is known for solving problems and believes in equality not adding another problem and promotes hierarchy.

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March 23, 2018, 12:51:11 PM
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All those Hero Member and Legendary Member including @Theymos and DTs should be ashamed of themselves implementing this merit system. The poor guy founder who invent this technology has a very low merit than yours. Ask your self if you deserve the merit than this poor developer. Without him, you are all nothing. If this guy still here right now I doubt if he will approve this because Satoshi  is known for solving problems and believes in equality not adding another problem and promotes hierarchy.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3

Satoshi would ashamed if people just making money easily by spamming or shitposting or making FUD or making scam ICO. This is a forum not bitcoin itself, the owner of this forum has the right to make it centralized, and one thing is for sure, just because you joined this forum, Satoshi or this forum doesnt have the obligation to give you money, why would you mad because a forum can not give you money anymore because you can not get merit.

Lastly, what equality did you mention? Do you think people getting more money with all of his/her alt account with shitposting and cheating the signature or bounty are fair to people who only use 1 account and never cheat signature or bounty and contribute to forum while getting lesser? Please what equality do you mean? Id rather have a people with experience and proper manner on this forum in a hierarchy power rather than a lot of "equal" people you did mean.
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March 23, 2018, 01:55:49 PM
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Theymos, can you add another infographic which I created a while ago to the above list?  I tried to make a more graphical and intuitive inforgraphic to help people understand the system easily.
Is it just me?  Or doesn't that page load too slow and the image is TOO BIG.  I did not even read it because it was loading too slow, and just seeming cumbersome.  If you make the image smaller, sncc, that might help it to load faster and to be more manageable so then others will read the substance? 
Might be your internet, it loaded immediately for me. I'd agree it is too big, ideally, I prefer infographics that fit on one page. Hasn't the whole Merit Infographic thing already been done to death?

Ok I compressed the infographic, now it should be fine, see below, where I also created separated files.  While it was not possible to put all the information in a single page, one could use the separated page files.  I admit I was not quick to create the infographic but I think it is still useful compared to other infographics.

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March 23, 2018, 03:57:29 PM
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All those Hero Member and Legendary Member including @Theymos and DTs should be ashamed of themselves implementing this merit system. The poor guy founder who invent this technology has a very low merit than yours. Ask your self if you deserve the merit than this poor developer. Without him, you are all nothing. If this guy still here right now I doubt if he will approve this because Satoshi  is known for solving problems and believes in equality not adding another problem and promotes hierarchy.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3

Satoshi would ashamed if people just making money easily by spamming or shitposting or making FUD or making scam ICO. This is a forum not bitcoin itself, the owner of this forum has the right to make it centralized, and one thing is for sure, just because you joined this forum, Satoshi or this forum doesnt have the obligation to give you money, why would you mad because a forum can not give you money anymore because you can not get merit.

Lastly, what equality did you mention? Do you think people getting more money with all of his/her alt account with shitposting and cheating the signature or bounty are fair to people who only use 1 account and never cheat signature or bounty and contribute to forum while getting lesser? Please what equality do you mean? Id rather have a people with experience and proper manner on this forum in a hierarchy power rather than a lot of "equal" people you did mean.
If that's the case then maybe @Theymos have to take out Sig Code for good if he wants to address the problem or find other way to address this mess. The question is can Theymos and his minions afford to take out Sig Code for a better and cleaner Forum? One more question can you afford to lose you Sig Campaign and find other source of income?  
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March 23, 2018, 04:20:25 PM
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All those Hero Member and Legendary Member including @Theymos and DTs should be ashamed of themselves implementing this merit system. The poor guy founder who invent this technology has a very low merit than yours. Ask your self if you deserve the merit than this poor developer. Without him, you are all nothing. If this guy still here right now I doubt if he will approve this because Satoshi  is known for solving problems and believes in equality not adding another problem and promotes hierarchy.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3

Satoshi would ashamed if people just making money easily by spamming or shitposting or making FUD or making scam ICO. This is a forum not bitcoin itself, the owner of this forum has the right to make it centralized, and one thing is for sure, just because you joined this forum, Satoshi or this forum doesnt have the obligation to give you money, why would you mad because a forum can not give you money anymore because you can not get merit.

Lastly, what equality did you mention? Do you think people getting more money with all of his/her alt account with shitposting and cheating the signature or bounty are fair to people who only use 1 account and never cheat signature or bounty and contribute to forum while getting lesser? Please what equality do you mean? Id rather have a people with experience and proper manner on this forum in a hierarchy power rather than a lot of "equal" people you did mean.
If that's the case then maybe @Theymos have to take out Sig Code for good if he wants to address the problem or find other way to address this mess. The question is can Theymos and his minions afford to take out Sig Code for a better and cleaner Forum? One more question can you afford to lose you Sig Campaign and find other source of income?  

I can afford to lose it, i treat this forum as a forum and not to make money on it, money is the only bonus for me. If people can make money with the right way then why not? Merit kicks in to make sure that high quality people can shine among the others who only do shitpost or even normal things. One thing for sure is, i never whine about merit and i embrace it, i think it is a great feature for the future of this forum. You should not question people who contribute even a little for the forum about making money, they earn the privilege to make money, it is a privilege for high quality and contributor people, not a right for everybody who join this forum.

My question for you is, do you deserved to earn money while you didnt do a thing or do it by cheating?

Well, come back later with your real account when you want to talk about eliminating all sig system in the forum, i bet you have a high rank account used for makimg money purposes.
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March 23, 2018, 04:37:52 PM
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All those Hero Member and Legendary Member including @Theymos and DTs should be ashamed of themselves implementing this merit system. The poor guy founder who invent this technology has a very low merit than yours. Ask your self if you deserve the merit than this poor developer. Without him, you are all nothing. If this guy still here right now I doubt if he will approve this because Satoshi  is known for solving problems and believes in equality not adding another problem and promotes hierarchy.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3

Satoshi would ashamed if people just making money easily by spamming or shitposting or making FUD or making scam ICO. This is a forum not bitcoin itself, the owner of this forum has the right to make it centralized, and one thing is for sure, just because you joined this forum, Satoshi or this forum doesnt have the obligation to give you money, why would you mad because a forum can not give you money anymore because you can not get merit.

Lastly, what equality did you mention? Do you think people getting more money with all of his/her alt account with shitposting and cheating the signature or bounty are fair to people who only use 1 account and never cheat signature or bounty and contribute to forum while getting lesser? Please what equality do you mean? Id rather have a people with experience and proper manner on this forum in a hierarchy power rather than a lot of "equal" people you did mean.
If that's the case then maybe @Theymos have to take out Sig Code for good if he wants to address the problem or find other way to address this mess. The question is can Theymos and his minions afford to take out Sig Code for a better and cleaner Forum? One more question can you afford to lose you Sig Campaign and find other source of income?  

I can afford to lose it, i treat this forum as a forum and not to make money on it, money is the only bonus for me. If people can make money with the right way then why not? Merit kicks in to make sure that high quality people can shine among the others who only do shitpost or even normal things. One thing for sure is, i never whine about merit and i embrace it, i think it is a great feature for the future of this forum. You should not question people who contribute even a little for the forum about making money, they earn the privilege to make money, it is a privilege for high quality and contributor people, not a right for everybody who join this forum.

My question for you is, do you deserved to earn money while you didnt do a thing or do it by cheating?

Well, come back later with your real account when you want to talk about eliminating all sig system in the forum, i bet you have a high rank account used for makimg money purposes.
If you can afford to lose it why not suggest it and say "@Theymos, maybe we have to take out the sigcode for good, anyway Sig Campaign for me is just a bonus, Im living in a third world country but I can manage my living". By the way your statement is also contradicting, you are here not to make money then suddenly your are talking the right way to make money. Make up your mind, the fish caught in the mouth.
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