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March 09, 2014, 06:19:16 PM
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Ok, here's the current NXT distribution as of today.



As you can see, it's pretty horrible. The whales rule almost 85% of the whole coin, and I guess most of them are the initial investors.

Excluding the ~85% of the total NXT the whales have, here's the distribution of the remaining 15%:


Pretty horrible against what? "Fainess"? NEM? We'll see when NEM hits 10k-20k, 100k+ accs. And "fairness" simplycan't be reached, even if u'll magically distribute wealth (in any coin, if so) proportionally to everyone living now. Next seconds: some thousand "poor" people'll be born; next minute: millions'll spend there shares for nothing an so on.

Nothing horrible, IMO. Even nothing bad. It's capitalism.

with such an opinion I could puke!

You do not understand that no movement comes in and people do not even want to invest in Nxt with such views?
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March 09, 2014, 06:19:59 PM
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Gents,

Someone just stole money from a Twitter user;

This is what he is saying;

"2 days ago i set it up and withdrew my dgex NXT into my account number 2541298766073278713.

But today i open my client but i cannot access my old account, but instead directed to 18170715140588846266. Please help!"

I looked a bit in the blockchain explorer. I see that account 10715382765594435905 has stole the money.

What can we do for the victim? He is asking me to help.

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March 09, 2014, 06:21:25 PM
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Can i get some Testnxt??Ty!

13641213266085296507

Sent 15 k TestNxt , enjoy it Wink .

Ty,i love how fluid the soft is.Also,im trying it as a noob Cool , so my 2 noob doubts:

1- After buying an asset,i saw the option to transfer it to someone.But in there,there is no option to charge any Nxt for it.

So if i want to sell a determined asset,to someone i know,and fix the price privately,do i have to put it in the general AE,or can it be done privately somehow?

I miss in the transfer window,somewhere to put for how much Nxt i want to send it to that account(optional).Or am i missing something?


2- When i bought something,it appears on the buy orders side,saying you - tentative order.    What is it waiting to do it?A first confirmation in the blockchain?
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March 09, 2014, 06:22:00 PM
Last edit: March 09, 2014, 08:21:14 PM by VanBreuk
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He has 2100 followers...

http://i.imgur.com/fud4JGC.jpg

We know that a weak password is the user's responsibility, but it's also true that the current base client is not user friendly in that sense, at all. Regardless, in this case, contacting @onemanatatime, finding the related blockchain information and trying to perhaps partially or fully compensate the leeching would be a VERY smart PR move.

Edit: I just saw the amounts. 400K+. I'm sorry for him, but buying and transferring that amount without doing your homework is beyond reckless.

  
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March 09, 2014, 06:22:34 PM
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What will kill nxt!

No involvement big stakeholder’s founders

One person get paid 40K/month others get nothing

Community collapsing no more interest

Small investors selling while they can before collapse

More and more accounts getting hacked theft of nxt, huge security flaws

Failing marketing

Promised features are not developed

Founders dumping day after day no price movement

No better distribution 85% in rich hands

Almost all VPS nodes in hands of two people, == centralized

Bloated blockchain

Panic breaks out run for the exit, but door is to small many bagholders.

People watch out before investing in nxt,  it is dying you will be a bagholder.

Small investors get out before the collapse this week
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March 09, 2014, 06:22:47 PM
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Gents,

Someone just stole money from a Twitter user;

This is what he is saying;

"2 days ago i set it up and withdrew my dgex NXT into my account number 2541298766073278713.

But today i open my client but i cannot access my old account, but instead directed to 18170715140588846266. Please help!"

I looked a bit in the blockchain explorer. I see that account 10715382765594435905 has stole the money.

What can we do for the victim? He is asking me to help.

Check the PassPhrase  Wink
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March 09, 2014, 06:25:37 PM
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Gents,

Someone just stole money from a Twitter user;

This is what he is saying;

"2 days ago i set it up and withdrew my dgex NXT into my account number 2541298766073278713.

But today i open my client but i cannot access my old account, but instead directed to 18170715140588846266. Please help!"

I looked a bit in the blockchain explorer. I see that account 10715382765594435905 has stole the money.

What can we do for the victim? He is asking me to help.

Check the PassPhrase  Wink

He admitted afterwards that he used a weak password. But it's strange for me that he did. We have to warn people properly how to secure their account.

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March 09, 2014, 06:26:10 PM
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BLA BLA ( it's a joke  Grin )
 

Where are the stakeholders ??
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March 09, 2014, 06:26:15 PM
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I'd just like to make a statement about the "initial distribution problem" if I may.

The initial stakeholders don't owe anyone here a goddamn thing. They took the huge risk by buying in early while everyone else called NXT a scam coin. They are under NO obligation to re-distribute the wealth to all those, including me, who missed out because of cynicism or ignorance or whatever. If NXT becomes a huge success, they and they alone deserve to be hugely rewarded for taking that risk. they have every right as free citizens of planet earth to do damn well whatever they please with their windfall.

That being said, if these stakeholders hope to see their investment mature to the point where they'll be able to perhaps buy a trip on Branson's Spaceship one day, they should invest in the future health of NXT in whatever way they see fit based on their own rational self interest.

There's no shortage of affordable NXT on the market. If you want some it's ripe for the picking on an exchange at mere pennies apiece. It's not too late to possibly book your own seat on a future Virgin voyage by simply not making the same mistake twice, taking a risk and buying some NXT. Then and only then will it will be your turn to decide how to invest your hard won investment in a way that you feel will make NXT grow even more.

I'm not a libertarian personally, but I really can't think of anything more free market than the way NXT has unfolded. I have no problem with the original folks being HUGELY rewarded because if they do then I'll be doing pretty good myself. It surprises me to see so many people in this community asking for socialism and redistribution of the wealth.

I am not saying that they should give out charity to all of us, I am saying that they should invest into product that they are also holding and holding by far the most comparing to all of us here. I mean this is a common sense. People that won't do that are by definition selfish, they don't want to part ways with one cent of their money and they don't want to contribute anything to the community by working here with us.
Sorry, but to me all of this makes no sense!
For example, Klee is definitely not one of those people!!

I just think people should stop obsessing over these stakeholders and what they are doing and get busy doing whatever you can do to contribute. Far too much sour grapes about this in my opinion. NXT are still only pennies each. If you buy some now and it goes up to $1 that's quite a profit. If it goes up to $5 then one day people will hassle you about why you're not giving away money so they too can get in on the gravy train they didn't buy a ticket for.  

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March 09, 2014, 06:26:33 PM
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Gents,

Someone just stole money from a Twitter user;

This is what he is saying;

"2 days ago i set it up and withdrew my dgex NXT into my account number 2541298766073278713.

But today i open my client but i cannot access my old account, but instead directed to 18170715140588846266. Please help!"

I looked a bit in the blockchain explorer. I see that account 10715382765594435905 has stole the money.

What can we do for the victim? He is asking me to help.

How does that make any sense?There is no way you get redirected to a different account with the same passphrase.And the money moved from that secondary account? I find it so impossible that id say it is someone trolling.
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March 09, 2014, 06:27:24 PM
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Follow this thread and you get most of the nextcoin news.

is there any site/thread where i can go to see if there is any nxt related updates? iv missed a bomb of pages nw and dnt have time to go through it :/
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March 09, 2014, 06:27:56 PM
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He admitted afterwards that he used a weak password. But it's strange for me that he did. We have to warn people properly how to secure their account.

Before you create an account it says in the instructions that you must use a password at least 35 characters
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March 09, 2014, 06:28:13 PM
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Where are the stakeholders ??

You might want to consider using the "Ignore" for that particular forum member if their posts are annoying you.

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March 09, 2014, 06:28:26 PM
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with such an opinion I could puke!

You do not understand that no movement comes in and people do not even want to invest in Nxt with such views?

Mr. NEM says. The distribution isn't any better in bitcoin or dogecoin.+ in nxt,as the client is yet non user friendly,people leave a lot of Nxt in exchanges,which punishes these graphs.So nothing wrong, considering how normal distributions are in cryptoworld.
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March 09, 2014, 06:28:48 PM
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He admitted afterwards that he used a weak password. But it's strange for me that he did. We have to warn people properly how to secure their account.

We will get rid of this hacking blahblah as soon as Wesleyh's GUI with Password Generator is implemented in our NRS and all our precious nxt sites promote this client.

Wesleyh, do your best!
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March 09, 2014, 06:30:33 PM
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He admitted afterwards that he used a weak password. But it's strange for me that he did. We have to warn people properly how to secure their account.

We will get rid of this hacking blahblah as soon as Wesleyh's GUI with Password Generator is implemented in our NRS and all our precious nxt sites promote this client.

Wesleyh, do your best!

I didn't know Wesleyh was working on that. Awesome!

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March 09, 2014, 06:30:58 PM
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yeah, the "victim" is a famous guy and also my friend from Berlin. Really have no idea why so experienced guy used a weak brainwallet private key. Money went to the known hacker:

I dont know if this is relevant...but there is someone who is stealing nxtcoins from "bad-protected" accounts.

I've just created an account with the pass: "mtvraps" to check and play. I made the nxtra.org faucet and they sent me 2nxt to this account "14345877598619007537". One minute after, someone sent these 2nxtcoins to other account (of course it was not me). The account was: "1413811113623034318".  I suppose there is a bot checking all the possible weak passwords...

It could be funny but......TAKE CARE!

"thief" with running script: http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=1413811113623034318

btw this acc has got some nice history, probably some "123" password Cheesy :
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=3791936988034107349&offset=1&filter=1

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March 09, 2014, 06:31:29 PM
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Where are the stakeholders ??

You might want to consider using the "Ignore" for that particular forum member if their posts are annoying you.


I just said where are the stakeholders?
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March 09, 2014, 06:33:24 PM
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wesleys client:

Is there any way to display also the forging transactions like in NRS?

Yes, will add this later on.
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March 09, 2014, 06:35:08 PM
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i am wondering why the big initial investors do not take some of their coins to give them away. A broader distribution of nextcoin would make it more attractive  Huh

Guys what about the distribution?
Somebody was revealing top 60 accounts holdings spreadsheet a month ago for a week or so. Did the distribution change any since? It is well obvious that we have whales unloading and keeping the price down for last couple of weeks.
It would be interesting to see these distribution numbers at the moment.

Ok, here's the current NXT distribution as of today.



As you can see, it's pretty horrible. The whales rule almost 85% of the whole coin, and I guess most of them are the initial investors.

Excluding the ~85% of the total NXT the whales have, here's the distribution of the remaining 15%:


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