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March 19, 2014, 03:17:01 PM
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@CfB: Can we replay transactions from NXT in a clone and vice versa?

Yes, if a clone doesn't change transaction format. So anyone who uses the same account in both cryptos can lose NXTs.


This is a problem   Roll Eyes
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March 19, 2014, 03:18:22 PM
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thank you! Smiley also watching video of decentralised internet! was it you that made that? very nice vid!
yes, I wrote this text: http://justpaste.it/decentralized-internet
then I created this video: http://youtu.be/RtTWUwRL9mQ
- I was hoping someone could point at some other videos that could be put there or if anyone suggested using different colors, but I got only opinions about bad music (which is only reffering to social network film trailer: http://youtu.be/lB95KLmpLR4?t=8s)
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March 19, 2014, 03:18:31 PM
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@CfB: Can we replay transactions from NXT in a clone and vice versa?

Yes, if a clone doesn't change transaction format. So anyone who uses the same account in both cryptos can lose NXTs.


This is a problem   Roll Eyes

Trap is in place, just waiting for the noobs to be robbed  Cheesy
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March 19, 2014, 03:23:07 PM
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@CfB: Can we replay transactions from NXT in a clone and vice versa?

Yes, if a clone doesn't change transaction format. So anyone who uses the same account in both cryptos can lose NXTs.

Is that the announced trap?

EDIT: trap for both cryptos... Well, I see that makes no sense.
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March 19, 2014, 03:25:14 PM
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@CfB: Can we replay transactions from NXT in a clone and vice versa?

Yes, if a clone doesn't change transaction format. So anyone who uses the same account in both cryptos can lose NXTs.

If this is really the case, it could be very dangerous for those who post their Nxt account there.
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March 19, 2014, 03:28:15 PM
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Is that the announced trap?

No. It's a scheme how to steal NXTs. Quite simple scheme btw:

1. U use the same account in Nas.
2. He sends u 100000 NAS.
3. Few days later he offers to buy 50000 NAS for 0.01 BTC.
4. He sends the bitcoins in advance, u send him 50000 NAS.
5. He broadcasts this transaction into Nxt network.

Result: U sold 50k NXT for 0.01 BTC. Smiley
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March 19, 2014, 03:28:54 PM
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thank you! Smiley also watching video of decentralised internet! was it you that made that? very nice vid!
yes, I wrote this text: http://justpaste.it/decentralized-internet
then I created this video: http://youtu.be/RtTWUwRL9mQ
- I was hoping someone could point at some other videos that could be put there or if anyone suggested using different colors, but I got only opinions about bad music (which is only reffering to social network film trailer: http://youtu.be/lB95KLmpLR4?t=8s)
Good video! I saw it on Facebook and shared it online: https://twitter.com/Nxtgids/status/446298525676994560
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March 19, 2014, 03:29:33 PM
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@CfB: Can we replay transactions from NXT in a clone and vice versa?

Yes, if a clone doesn't change transaction format. So anyone who uses the same account in both cryptos can lose NXTs.

If this is really the case, it could be very dangerous for those who post their Nxt account there.

I could post yours! ;-)

It's not a problem as long as you don't do an outgoing transaction in the clone blockchain.
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March 19, 2014, 03:30:42 PM
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BTER (again)

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March 19, 2014, 03:32:52 PM
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Result: U sold 50k NXT for 0.01 BTC. Smiley

Crazy!    Shocked     ...thnx brother...

Hey, just don't send NAS when he sends u 0.01 BTC.  Cheesy
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March 19, 2014, 03:35:25 PM
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Okay Nxt Community here is a quantum riddle;

My real NXT account number (Public Key) is 14730376987822377578 on NXT Mainnet. I have never used my real NXT passphrase on NXT testnet. However,   14730376987822377578 exists on NXT Testnet.

Yesterday, after I asked for TestNXT on this thread; 18232225178877143084 sent me a 1,000,000 + 1 TestNXT.

While testing this morning, I sent 1,000,000 + 1,000  TestNXT to 14730376987822377578 which showed as a valid public key and appeared to have transaction success.

Upon looking at the history of 14730376987822377578 from NxtTestnet, I see "This account has a balance of 1'063'416 NXT" ; 1,000,000 being the TestNXT transferred this morning and 63,416 an old real NXT balance of real NXT account 14730376987822377578.

And even more bizarre, looking down into the transaction history I find dozens of Asset transfers between 3/11/2014 and 3/14/2014 all to the same account number 18232225178877143084. WHICH is the SAME TestNXT account that sent me 1,000,000 TestNXT on 3/19/2014.

Maybe I need another cup of coffee.




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March 19, 2014, 03:35:56 PM
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Is that the announced trap?

No. It's a scheme how to steal NXTs. Quite simple scheme btw:

1. U use the same account in Nas.
2. He sends u 100000 NAS.
3. Few days later he offers to buy 50000 NAS for 0.01 BTC.
4. He sends the bitcoins in advance, u send him 50000 NAS.
5. He broadcasts this transaction into Nxt network.

Result: U sold 50k NXT for 0.01 BTC. Smiley

How?
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March 19, 2014, 03:37:11 PM
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Okay Nxt Community here is a quantum riddle;

My real NXT account number (Public Key) is 14730376987822377578 on NXT Mainnet. I have never used my real NXT passphrase on NXT testnet. However,   14730376987822377578 exists on NXT Testnet.

Yesterday, after I asked for TestNXT on this thread; 18232225178877143084 sent me a 1,000,000 + 1 TestNXT.

While testing this morning, I sent 1,000,000 + 1,000  TestNXT to 14730376987822377578 which showed as a valid public key and appeared to have transaction success.

Upon looking at the history of 14730376987822377578 from NxtTestnet, I see "This account has a balance of 1'063'416 NXT" ; 1,000,000 being the TestNXT transferred this morning and 63,416 an old real NXT balance of real NXT account 14730376987822377578.

And even more bizarre, looking down into the transaction history I find dozens of Asset transfers between 3/11/2014 and 3/14/2014 all to the same account number 18232225178877143084. WHICH is the SAME TestNXT account that sent me 1,000,000 TestNXT on 3/19/2014.

Maybe I need another cup of coffee.






Test blockchain was duplicated from real blockchain. (up until a point).
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March 19, 2014, 03:37:15 PM
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Okay Nxt Community here is a quantum riddle;

My real NXT account number (Public Key) is 14730376987822377578 on NXT Mainnet. I have never used my real NXT passphrase on NXT testnet. However,   14730376987822377578 exists on NXT Testnet.

Yesterday, after I asked for TestNXT on this thread; 18232225178877143084 sent me a 1,000,000 + 1 TestNXT.

While testing this morning, I sent 1,000,000 + 1,000  TestNXT to 14730376987822377578 which showed as a valid public key and appeared to have transaction success.

Upon looking at the history of 14730376987822377578 from NxtTestnet, I see "This account has a balance of 1'063'416 NXT" ; 1,000,000 being the TestNXT transferred this morning and 63,416 an old real NXT balance of real NXT account 14730376987822377578.

And even more bizarre, looking down into the transaction history I find dozens of Asset transfers between 3/11/2014 and 3/14/2014 all to the same account number 18232225178877143084. WHICH is the SAME TestNXT account that sent me 1,000,000 TestNXT on 3/19/2014.

Maybe I need another cup of coffee.






Because the testnet uses a state of the blockchain of several months/days/weeks ago to continue whenever it is restarted?
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March 19, 2014, 03:37:51 PM
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Okay Nxt Community here is a quantum riddle;

My real NXT account number (Public Key) is 14730376987822377578 on NXT Mainnet. I have never used my real NXT passphrase on NXT testnet. However,   14730376987822377578 exists on NXT Testnet.

Yesterday, after I asked for TestNXT on this thread; 18232225178877143084 sent me a 1,000,000 + 1 TestNXT.

While testing this morning, I sent 1,000,000 + 1,000  TestNXT to 14730376987822377578 which showed as a valid public key and appeared to have transaction success.

Upon looking at the history of 14730376987822377578 from NxtTestnet, I see "This account has a balance of 1'063'416 NXT" ; 1,000,000 being the TestNXT transferred this morning and 63,416 an old real NXT balance of real NXT account 14730376987822377578.

And even more bizarre, looking down into the transaction history I find dozens of Asset transfers between 3/11/2014 and 3/14/2014 all to the same account number 18232225178877143084. WHICH is the SAME TestNXT account that sent me 1,000,000 TestNXT on 3/19/2014.

Maybe I need another cup of coffee.






Good scenario for a movie like "The Da Vinci Code"...
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March 19, 2014, 03:39:03 PM
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How?

getTransactionBytes in Nas + broadcastTransaction in Nxt.
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March 19, 2014, 03:40:16 PM
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Da Vinci... this reminds me how I deciphered 2 ciphers from the 16th century Smiley
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March 19, 2014, 03:40:27 PM
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BTER (again)

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Smart money in NXT.
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March 19, 2014, 03:40:45 PM
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How?

Nxt transaction sigs only care about the account id's (not say something like the "genesis block id") so a "clone" (such a test net) in which account #'s that *match* main net (most likely due to using the same password) means that you can *steal* NXT by just broadcasting a test net tx on main net.

(this issue will also apply to "parallel chains" if and when implemented)

With CIYAM anyone can create 100% generated C++ web applications in literally minutes.

GPG Public Key | 1ciyam3htJit1feGa26p2wQ4aw6KFTejU
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March 19, 2014, 03:44:32 PM
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BTER (again)

0.00005000   2,069,503.024   103.4751

Smart money in NXT.

not so smart cos the price is just guna get driven up and the order wont be filled.. :/

maybe that is the goal, who knows!  Cheesy

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