markm
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March 25, 2013, 03:09:46 AM |
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Congratulations to our new Devtome authors! Welcome aboard!
-MarkM-
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Barnacle_Ed
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March 25, 2013, 03:22:52 PM |
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Happy to be aboard. I like the idea of doing constructive things and getting rewarded for it Also, if there are no objections, I'll keep on spitting out Computer Science-related articles for now.
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Unthinkingbit (OP)
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March 25, 2013, 05:21:13 PM |
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.. Also, if there are no objections, I'll keep on spitting out Computer Science-related articles for now.
No objections, please keep writing them. I suggest you and everyone else writing computer science articles add a category link at the very bottom of your article: so that eventually we'll be able to make topic indexes.
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tosku
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March 25, 2013, 09:44:58 PM |
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Also, if there are no objections, I'll keep on spitting out Computer Science-related articles for now.
That makes two of us!
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Skude.se/BTC - an easier way to request your daily free coins!
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Barnacle_Ed
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March 25, 2013, 11:48:35 PM |
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Also, if there are no objections, I'll keep on spitting out Computer Science-related articles for now.
That makes two of us! Awesome. Looks like we'll be doing a divide-and-conquer then! And I'll be sure to use the new Category for the articles.
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Unthinkingbit (OP)
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March 26, 2013, 02:14:57 AM |
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To New Bounty Hunters, I was asked in a message how often the generation shares will be paid, below is the answer. Generation rounds are 4,000 blocks long, about a month: http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=devcoin#viewing_disbursementsPeople who received coins for round 22, whether from bounties: https://github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/blob/master/bounty_22.csvor devtome writer earnings, will get paid in round 22. Any work done after about block 85,000 and until block 89,000 will go into round 23. Round 22 starts at block 4,000 * 22 = 88,000. At the time of this writing, the block number is 82,867: https://vps.vircurex.com/At about 1,000 blocks per week, work until roughly April 9 will go into bounty 22. Payments for bounty 22 will be between block 88,000, which will start around April 30, until around May 30. If your devcoin address is on your machine, in May you'll see many 45,000 devcoin payments arriving from generation. The number of receiver lines will only be known at block 85,000, when the writer earnings are generated and the receiver file is made. Assuming there are 60 receiver lines this round, each line will get a payment every 60 blocks, and on average each line will receive a total of 180,000,000 devcoins / 60 = 3,000,000 devcoins. For example, if someone made four generation shares from the signing bonus, and two for articles, for a total of six shares, they would get six payments every 60 rounds, or an average of a payment every 10 rounds. Their total payment would be on average 6 * 3,000,000 devcoins = 18,000,000 devcoins. Calculated at one payment every ten rounds, that gives the same figure of 4,000 / 10 * 45,000 devcoins = 18,000,000 devcoins.
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Barnacle_Ed
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March 27, 2013, 03:15:16 AM |
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Newbie question for the devtome wiki: How does one go about putting pictures onto a wiki page? When I go to the "Media Files" link, I get a warning saying that I don't have enough rights to upload files...
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jasinlee
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March 27, 2013, 03:37:37 AM |
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Newbie question for the devtome wiki: How does one go about putting pictures onto a wiki page? When I go to the "Media Files" link, I get a warning saying that I don't have enough rights to upload files...
There is something up with the wiki causing it, unthinkingbit already pointed it out, we are looking for the bug causing it.
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jasinlee
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March 27, 2013, 05:15:36 PM |
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I deleted a long list of bot added users today, if your account appears to not be working let me know. I think I only deleted the botted users, but just in case check your login to make sure its working ok on devtome.com. Looks like lukejr or someone else that is against alt coins was trying to deface the wiki. Good forethought unthinkingbit having the registration done manually.
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Unthinkingbit (OP)
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March 27, 2013, 06:01:50 PM |
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I deleted a long list of bot added users today, if your account appears to not be working let me know. I think I only deleted the botted users, but just in case check your login to make sure its working ok on devtome.com. Looks like lukejr or someone else that is against alt coins was trying to deface the wiki. Good forethought unthinkingbit having the registration done manually.
Spam was the biggest problem on the old media wiki account. Cablepair never shut off the automatic registration so I had to manually delete spam accounts, an enormous waste of time. The spammers make articles on wikis to send traffic to dodgy sites. They will go through any automatic registration process, or even exploits in the wiki. The only way to stop them is manual registration. I don't think this is anyone trying to sabotage devcoin by attacking devtome, it is almost certainly spammers trying to make money.
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jasinlee
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March 27, 2013, 06:31:19 PM |
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I think I will see if we can edit the registration and ones that fall in a certain category will go to spam/delete automatically.
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Unthinkingbit (OP)
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March 27, 2013, 06:38:38 PM |
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I think I will see if we can edit the registration and ones that fall in a certain category will go to spam/delete automatically.
Registration should be by a message through the forum to you, then you make an account for the writer. If that makes it a bit harder for writers to apply so be it, if they can't write a message, they probably can't write a good article It should not be that a bot can fill out a form, and then you confirm or reject it. That road leads to wasting all your time.
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jasinlee
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March 27, 2013, 06:52:27 PM |
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Good point. Yeah perhaps just an easier way to mass delete them when I feel like it.
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FuzzyBear
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March 27, 2013, 09:26:40 PM |
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I think I will see if we can edit the registration and ones that fall in a certain category will go to spam/delete automatically.
Registration should be by a message through the forum to you, then you make an account for the writer. If that makes it a bit harder for writers to apply so be it, if they can't write a message, they probably can't write a good article It should not be that a bot can fill out a form, and then you confirm or reject it. That road leads to wasting all your time. Hey just thought i'd give my 2 cents here as i have had a mass spam problem on my drupal site and for all the trying I have found nothing stops them, even to the point where I am sure people are paid to create accounts on sites to bypass the checks and stuff to verify one can use to detect if human. Auto creation of a reader account is fine but ideally yes you want to verify the writer account, perhaps this is what u are talking about as you want to verify humans as opposed to bots, without too much admin time, and the content of people work if they want to write good articles. I found spam bots content posting started slow, but eventually the mass posting of content just copied and pasted from elsewhere increases in the first registration of a writer account. Maybe a 1 post limit (wordcount?? could specify a range?) until an admin has verified it is on content, a human and not bad links etc, then when content verified can be indexed and account for writer unlocked, agreed there will be some determined ones that will be able to get through the net but that would add lvl of verification and allow the admin to index all first articles and verify content and user account, just my thoughts hope it helps
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jasinlee
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March 27, 2013, 09:54:41 PM |
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I was thinking of more along the lines of having everyone allocated as a spam user, unless they contact me to request a "writer" status.
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doublec
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March 27, 2013, 10:26:06 PM |
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I was thinking of more along the lines of having everyone allocated as a spam user, unless they contact me to request a "writer" status.
How about have the user have to send a token devcoin amount to an address. When that is received the account is activated. This is similar to how the bitcoin wiki works.
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Unthinkingbit (OP)
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March 27, 2013, 11:50:04 PM |
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I was thinking of more along the lines of having everyone allocated as a spam user, unless they contact me to request a "writer" status.
They'll still waste time, even if they are in a spam group. The requirements for signing up are pretty easy, if someone has trouble composing around 50 words, then they shouldn't be a writer. Your time is worth far more than that of a wanna be writer who can't even write an introduction or biography. Spammers will exploit any kindness or mercy, they're psycopaths: http://www.whale.to/b/callahan1.htmlBecause they're so exploitative, it is necessary to be shut them out completely. Otherwise they will overwhelm you with sheer volume. In the last wiki, the spam was increasing as the wiki became more popular, it would of brought the wiki to an end even if Cablepair did not abandon it. How about have the user have to send a token devcoin amount to an address. When that is received the account is activated. This is similar to how the bitcoin wiki works.
That's a good idea. Hopefully requiring people to ask for an account will be enough. However if spammers start exploiting even that, then sending a token amount will be necessary. Hey just thought i'd give my 2 cents here as i have had a mass spam problem on my drupal site and for all the trying I have found nothing stops them, even to the point where I am sure people are paid to create accounts on sites to bypass the checks and stuff to verify one can use to detect if human.
Auto creation of a reader account is fine but ideally yes you want to verify the writer account, perhaps this is what u are talking about as you want to verify humans as opposed to bots, without too much admin time, and the content of people work if they want to write good articles. ..
I meant that people have to request an account, with some kind of introduction. There would be no other way to make even a limited account. Spammers might start hiring people just to get accounts, if they do then sending a token amount to request an account would be necessary.
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