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April 29, 2013, 10:58:34 PM
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How do you post a picture on Devtome?

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April 29, 2013, 11:00:06 PM
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How do you post a picture on Devtome?

http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=freud_s   Like I did here?

[[http://www.tinypic.com|{{http://i34.tinypic.com/15ewunl.jpg}}]]

Was the code I used

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April 29, 2013, 11:02:15 PM
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I don't mind there being restrictions on shares given out. And I agree with the importance of quality, that said, quality will eventually rate itself through pageviews, no? I think the less artificial restrictions we place on the system, the better it will be in the end. We should be writing quality material anyway, not just to make even more money out of something that is very profitable.
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No I disagree, something can be of high quality but people may not find it interesting. I could write a page of a bunch of bad jokes that would get plenty of page views, but it wouldn't be high quality

I'd like to believe we're above writing an article entirely consisting of bad jokes for it's own sake.
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April 29, 2013, 11:02:40 PM
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How do you post a picture on Devtome?

http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=freud_s   Like I did here?

[[http://www.tinypic.com|{{http://i34.tinypic.com/15ewunl.jpg}}]]

Was the code I used

EDIT: If you ever have a question like that, click the little syntax link at the top of the editing page

Exactly...

I'm still a little confused I'll click the syntax thingy.

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April 29, 2013, 11:03:59 PM
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I'd like to believe we're above writing an article entirely consisting of bad jokes for it's own sake.

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It was an example to show that garbage can get more page views than something of quality, and therefore pageviews shouldn't be uses to assess the quality.

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April 29, 2013, 11:04:07 PM
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I'd like to believe we're above writing an article entirely consisting of bad jokes for it's own sake.


I don't think anyone is above anything. People are just people.
And what's wrong with bad jokes? Some people might want to read bad jokes.

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April 29, 2013, 11:06:52 PM
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What is Syntax? I can't find a link that says that...

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April 29, 2013, 11:07:42 PM
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What is Syntax? I can't find a link that says that...

Edit the page and hit Save. See syntax for Wiki syntax. Please edit the page only if you can improve it. If you want to test some things, learn to make your first steps on the playground.

That is at the very top when you are in page edit mode.

EDIT here: http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:syntax

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April 29, 2013, 11:07:52 PM
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EXACTLY.

Example, this page has the most potential of any on Devtome Smiley
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=cat_meme_page

You do not take into account that all low-hanging fruit themes are very saturated... There is a bajillion of sites with jokes and memes, and there very few reasons for visitors to come specifically to Devtome for this kind of content.

On the other hand, highbrowed content won't automatically get pageviews either.

So, some component is missing... Basically, content must be in demand.

In any case, it makes sense to formulate goals and to measure success against these goals. If it is pageviews, we need to measure them for different articles...

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April 29, 2013, 11:08:30 PM
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What is Syntax? I can't find a link that says that...
love my little syntax page Cheesy

http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:syntax

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April 29, 2013, 11:10:18 PM
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EXACTLY.

Example, this page has the most potential of any on Devtome Smiley
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=cat_meme_page

You do not take into account that all low-hanging fruit themes are very saturated... There is a bajillion of sites with jokes and memes, and there very few reasons for visitors to come specifically to Devtome for this kind of content.

On the other hand, highbrowed content won't automatically get pageviews either.

So, some component is missing... Basically, content must be in demand.

In any case, it makes sense to formulate goals and to measure success against these goals. If it is pageviews, we need to measure them for different articles...

There is nothing missing...

What happens is...
Easy to understand, or funny brings the quick unique traffic.
Block text, Philosophy, ideaology gets leftover traffic, and long term traffic.

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April 29, 2013, 11:11:00 PM
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What is Syntax? I can't find a link that says that...
love my little syntax page Cheesy

http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:syntax

Thanks Smiley

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April 29, 2013, 11:18:05 PM
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What is Syntax? I can't find a link that says that...
love my little syntax page Cheesy

http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:syntax

Does the wiki have plugins for other markups?  I for one would like to see markdown supported.

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April 29, 2013, 11:22:39 PM
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a question, i probably didn't understand something: i see a lot of "1" shares in the receiver files, but shouldn't all these be 3 or 4 because of the signing bonus? when will that be paid?

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April 29, 2013, 11:40:18 PM
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a question, i probably didn't understand something: i see a lot of "1" shares in the receiver files, but shouldn't all these be 3 or 4 because of the signing bonus? when will that be paid?

I too would like to know this. I am assuming it is because the script only accounts for word and picture counts and not something issued by someone else.

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April 29, 2013, 11:41:11 PM
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Also, can someone link to the daily script run page?

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April 29, 2013, 11:46:05 PM
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Also, can someone link to the daily script run page?
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=daily_script_results

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April 30, 2013, 12:03:17 AM
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There is nothing missing...

What happens is...
Easy to understand, or funny brings the quick unique traffic.
Block text, Philosophy, ideaology gets leftover traffic, and long term traffic.

You should think in terms of traffic sources. Basically, we have:

1. search engines
2. (external) links
3. returning visitors (e.g. bookmarks)
4. viral

You seem to assume that all new content gets some visitors, but it is simply not true. Suppose you post something "easy to understand or funny". Unless it is absolutely outstanding, you will have no viral traffic. If you do not have a fanbase, you have no returning visitors. Also no links and no traffic from search engines because it is (likely) not unique

So you end up with approximately no traffic.

Scientific topics and such might get something from search engines, and if they are of a high quality they might grow some links.

However, things are different if somebody posts something truly outstanding and unique: that page will have a lot of viral traffic, and virally growing links to it.

It is also possible to leverage existing fan base... For example, if you happen to have some twitter following, you can post links to your articles on devtome and they'll get some pageviews...

So it is much more complex than cats vs. philosophy.

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April 30, 2013, 12:08:38 AM
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There is nothing missing...

What happens is...
Easy to understand, or funny brings the quick unique traffic.
Block text, Philosophy, ideaology gets leftover traffic, and long term traffic.

You should think in terms of traffic sources. Basically, we have:

1. search engines
2. (external) links
3. returning visitors (e.g. bookmarks)
4. viral

You seem to assume that all new content gets some visitors, but it is simply not true. Suppose you post something "easy to understand or funny". Unless it is absolutely outstanding, you will have no viral traffic. If you do not have a fanbase, you have no returning visitors. Also no links and no traffic from search engines because it is (likely) not unique

So you end up with approximately no traffic.

Scientific topics and such might get something from search engines, and if they are of a high quality they might grow some links.

However, things are different if somebody posts something truly outstanding and unique: that page will have a lot of viral traffic, and virally growing links to it.

It is also possible to leverage existing fan base... For example, if you happen to have some twitter following, you can post links to your articles on devtome and they'll get some pageviews...

So it is much more complex than cats vs. philosophy.

You are mistaken, it is not Cats Vs. Philosophy, it is Easily/Quickly Readable VS Needed.

Things that are quick and easy to read, will get more instant views than something that people will look at when they are attempting to write papers, simply because more people are looking to be entertained than educated.

I am not just making things up, this is my experience.

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April 30, 2013, 12:12:04 AM
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It is also possible to leverage existing fan base... For example, if you happen to have some twitter following, you can post links to your articles on devtome and they'll get some pageviews...


I know how this all works Smiley

I'm not guessing, I am just letting people know things.

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