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which forgets the $100 BILLION stolen by Yanukovich and his gang, and the fact that credit ratings for countries don't change over a single year, and a bad rating is a signal of extremely bad past policies. What's happening in Ukraine economically is not the result of Maidan protests and Poroshenko, Maidan protests and Poroshenko is the result of what has been happening in Ukraine for years.
So true but Yanukovich is friend of poutine ... so between mafia boys..they drinks vodka and joke about people diying ... Why he left the country like a bandit if he had nothing do worst for the country ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ? Pro Russian are only blind ... you want good example ?? Explain us why Russia is ( PIB / GDB is so low ... ?? ) Russia 14,591 US$ / citizen ... and year after year this one go down ... but rich people get more and more rich LoL ... as Poutine told it, there is no crisis in Russia .... Russia want peace... DPR of Donestk just annonced they do not want peace ... and will make a complete war ... to kill all soldier ... You want to speak about respect of soldier ... ho yes video lately published by Pro RUssian are so true again ... where are the respect ... why on Ukrainian soldier killed ... almost all have a bullet in head ?? To finish them ? If video like this where available for Pro Russian for sure Russia & they slave ... could be the first one to show it ... Now dead will be huge number ... as seems Pro russian do not want peace ... either have they respected it ?? As they never stopped to shell the airport ...
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Poland makes a new move in their 200-year old project "Ukraine". After the history-falsifying statement by Yatsenjuks that USSR invaded Ukraine and Nazi Germany during WWII, the Polish FM made an equally history-falsifying statement, saying that Osvencem was liberated by Ukrainians. It was the Soviet Army that liberated it, a part of what was called the "Ukrainian front", which before that was called "Voronezh front". The divisions of the front consisted of all the nationalities of the Soviet Union, and not just Ukrainians. The head of Polish FM first tried to explain away his statement, and even shifted the blame on to Russia for daring to point out the error. According to him "Russians want to show that the heritage of Red Army, of the victims of the Victory over Fascism belongs only to Russia". And it's despite what Lavrov said, that the victories of the Soviet Union belong to all Soviet people. http://www.vz.ru/news/2015/1/23/725859.htmlRussia acts as a guardian of that common history, and I think it shouldering all of the USSR debt after the break up and letting the member republics go into the bright future debt-free does give Russia some right there to keep the records strait. Polish reps apologize to Russia for incorrect interpretation of Auschwitz liberationhttp://itar-tass.com/en/world/773068
In this context, the following article by a Russian Jew, currently living in Israel, gives an interesting perspective, tying up the American war in Ukraine, the false flag in Paris, the hostility towards Russia, the economic war, and the selective freedom of speech in the West. http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/01/19/trolling-russia-israel-shamir/The edifice of world post-1991 order is collapsing right now before our eyes. President Putin’s decision to give a miss to the Auschwitz pilgrimage, right after his absence in Paris at the Charlie festival, gave it the last shove. It was good clean fun to troll Russia, as long as it stayed the course. Not anymore. Russia broke the rules.
Until now, Russia, like a country bumpkin in Eton, tried to belong. It attended the gathering of the grandees where it was shunned, paid its dues to European bodies that condemned it, patiently suffered ceaseless hectoring of the great powers and irritating baiting of East European small-timers alike. But something broke down. The lad does not want to belong anymore; he picked up his stuff and went home – just when they needed him to knee in Auschwitz.
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While the present western regime is anti-Christian and anti-Muslim, it is pro-Jewish to an extent that defies a rational explanation. France had sent thousands of soldiers and policemen to defend Jewish institutions, though this defence antagonises their neighbours. While Charlie are glorified for insulting Christians and Muslims, Dieudonné has been sent to jail (just for a day, but with great fanfare) for annoying Jews. Actually, Charlie Hebdo dismissed a journalist for one sentence allegedly disrespectful for Jews. This unfairness is a source of aggravation: Muslims were laughed out of court when they complained against particularly vile Charlie’s cartoons, but Jews almost always win when they go to the court against their denigrators. (Full disclosure: I was also sued by LICRA, the French Jewish body, while my French publisher was devastated by their legal attacks).
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One can be certain that Russians will not support the Middle Eastern crusade of NATO, as this military action was prepared at the Charlie demo in Paris. It is far from clear who killed the cartoonists, but Paris and Washington intend to use it for reigniting war in the Middle East. This time, Russia will be in opposition, and probably will use it as an opportunity to change the uncomfortable standoff in the Ukraine. Thus supporters of peace in the Middle East have a good reason to back Russia.
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ROFL! Dear god, the double-standards and bullshit in this threat are still incredible! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I stopped reading this for a few months, and came back to check through them, and OMFG you guys are dumb. The Russia and Ukraine situation isn't even reported on in US. No one gives a shit. And it's extremely funny that all the news about things going on in Ukraine are only being reported by from Russian news sources, which, apparently, arent even allowed to go into Ukraine, or get killed there. I would point out all the many ways in which the reports you idiots are posting ehre are contradictory, but it would take me half a day just to compile all of them. Though for your dumbass benefit, the two ones that stand out the most are the quote " A mere year ago.. Ukraine was a calm and peaceful nation, it had extremly good gas deals with Russia, buying the cheapest gas in Europe, it was about to get a 19 billion dollar loan and it was going to join the Eurasian economic zone.. All was well.." which forgets the $100 BILLION stolen by Yanukovich and his gang, and the fact that credit ratings for countries don't change over a single year, and a bad rating is a signal of extremely bad past policies. What's happening in Ukraine economically is not the result of Maidan protests and Poroshenko, Maidan protests and Poroshenko is the result of what has been happening in Ukraine for years. what about poroshenko the new president who is just another oilgarch
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Poland makes a new move in their 200-year old project "Ukraine". After the history-falsifying statement by Yatsenjuks that USSR invaded Ukraine and Nazi Germany during WWII, the Polish FM made an equally history-falsifying statement, saying that Osvencem was liberated by Ukrainians. It was the Soviet Army that liberated it, a part of what was called the "Ukrainian front", which before that was called "Voronezh front". The divisions of the front consisted of all the nationalities of the Soviet Union, and not just Ukrainians. The head of Polish FM first tried to explain away his statement, and even shifted the blame on to Russia for daring to point out the error. According to him "Russians want to show that the heritage of Red Army, of the victims of the Victory over Fascism belongs only to Russia". And it's despite what Lavrov said, that the victories of the Soviet Union belong to all Soviet people. http://www.vz.ru/news/2015/1/23/725859.htmlRussia acts as a guardian of that common history, and I think it shouldering all of the USSR debt after the break up and letting the member republics go into the bright future debt-free does give Russia some right there to keep the records strait. Polish reps apologize to Russia for incorrect interpretation of Auschwitz liberationhttp://itar-tass.com/en/world/773068
In this context, the following article by a Russian Jew, currently living in Israel, gives an interesting perspective, tying up the American war in Ukraine, the false flag in Paris, the hostility towards Russia, the economic war, and the selective freedom of speech in the West. http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/01/19/trolling-russia-israel-shamir/The edifice of world post-1991 order is collapsing right now before our eyes. President Putin’s decision to give a miss to the Auschwitz pilgrimage, right after his absence in Paris at the Charlie festival, gave it the last shove. It was good clean fun to troll Russia, as long as it stayed the course. Not anymore. Russia broke the rules.
Until now, Russia, like a country bumpkin in Eton, tried to belong. It attended the gathering of the grandees where it was shunned, paid its dues to European bodies that condemned it, patiently suffered ceaseless hectoring of the great powers and irritating baiting of East European small-timers alike. But something broke down. The lad does not want to belong anymore; he picked up his stuff and went home – just when they needed him to knee in Auschwitz.
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While the present western regime is anti-Christian and anti-Muslim, it is pro-Jewish to an extent that defies a rational explanation. France had sent thousands of soldiers and policemen to defend Jewish institutions, though this defence antagonises their neighbours. While Charlie are glorified for insulting Christians and Muslims, Dieudonné has been sent to jail (just for a day, but with great fanfare) for annoying Jews. Actually, Charlie Hebdo dismissed a journalist for one sentence allegedly disrespectful for Jews. This unfairness is a source of aggravation: Muslims were laughed out of court when they complained against particularly vile Charlie’s cartoons, but Jews almost always win when they go to the court against their denigrators. (Full disclosure: I was also sued by LICRA, the French Jewish body, while my French publisher was devastated by their legal attacks).
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One can be certain that Russians will not support the Middle Eastern crusade of NATO, as this military action was prepared at the Charlie demo in Paris. It is far from clear who killed the cartoonists, but Paris and Washington intend to use it for reigniting war in the Middle East. This time, Russia will be in opposition, and probably will use it as an opportunity to change the uncomfortable standoff in the Ukraine. Thus supporters of peace in the Middle East have a good reason to back Russia. 10s of millions of eastern europeaners died in that war for Ukraine to claim that they are so great is just asinine.
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Remember warnings about possible false flags from Ukraine? https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/01/22/false-flag-alert-kiev-regime-needs-war-to-survive-ukrainians-refuse-to-fight-kiev-uses-foreign-mercenaries-and-us-weapons/Well, according to a student, who returned from Ukraine to Crimea, Kiev enlists students to organise a large provocation on the Russian border on the 29th of January. Armed Ukro-Nazis will be participating along with the students. http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1727505
The largest machine building factory in Dniepropetrovsk - JuzhMash (building, among other things, rocket engines) has been stopped. The reason - all major contracts are from Russia, and Kiev stopped all cooperation. Thousands of people have been thrown out on the street. The first results of EuroIntegration, without actually integrating with EU. Well done, EU!
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So what happened today?
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Interesting article from Bloomberg... Hasenstab Sees $3 Billion Vanish in Ukraine as Big Bet SoursAfter loading up on more than $7 billion of the country’s bonds, Hasenstab [bond fund manager at the Franklin Templeton bond funds] has seen the value of the securities collapse as the conflict with pro-Russian rebels deepened an economic recession, depleted foreign reserves and prompted government calls for a debt restructuring. His investment, equal to almost half of all Ukraine’s foreign bonds, is now valued at just $4 billion, based on fund holdings from the end of the third and fourth quarters.
As the losses mount, returns on Hasenstab’s two biggest funds -- standouts in the industry that have outperformed 99 percent of peers over the past decade -- have slipped, helping fuel client redemptions. Investors last year pulled a record $14 billion from the U.S. and European versions of the Templeton Global Bond Fund and Templeton Global Total Return Fund, which have a combined $150 billion in assets, according to estimates compiled by Bloomberg
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How the February Coup in Kiev was plotted and arranged by the US – New Evidencehttp://ian56.blogspot.com.es/2015/01/how-february-coup-in-kiev-was-plotted.htmlPlanning for the February 2014 Coup D’Etat in Kiev started in March 2013 (or earlier).
This amazing speech in Ukraine’s Rada (Parliament) details how 300 people, under the direction of the US Embassy in Kiev, were to mobilize and manipulate social media in order to provoke protests that would lead to a Coup to oust Yanukovych and then start a Civil War. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9hOl8TuBUM
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Breaking! Maidan 2 Storms Poroshenko’s Administration in Kievhttps://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/02/03/breaking-maidan-2-storms-poroshenkos-administration-in-kievDetails are scant, but a few days ago various ukro-nazi battalions gathered in Kiev demanding a bigger and better war against Donbass, with more war expenditure, bigger help from the US and NATO, and more ballistic missile bombings of the citizens of Donetsk (DNR) and Lugansk (LNR). Today, it appears the members of the same ukro-nazi battalions and their sympathisers are storming the administration of the Ukraine president Poroshenko, who according to them, has been too mild towards Donbass and too friendly to Russia. Most others would say it were the other way around, but that’s their point of view.
Here is a link to the raw video from News-Front. Another video – latest. Keep in mind it can be deleted any moment, as it happened to so many other inconvenient videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm0CXy1nMQshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_i7bH0gID8
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Two interesting articles to put things into perspective: Ukraine’s former PM says no Russian pressure behind EU deal rejectionhttp://itar-tass.com/en/world/775393"I have never heard Putin or Medvedev say that if you sign the agreement with the EU, then you will have another government and the president," Mykola Azarov told reporters
On the contrary, Russia and China had agreed to provide Ukraine with up to $42 billion in loans and investment. "Ukraine could have seen a significant economic recovery," Azarov said.
Meanwhile, the Ukrainian side was subjected to pressure on the part of the EU, he said. and Gaddafi’s fate was prepared for Yanukovych — Ukrainian former PM Azarovhttp://itar-tass.com/en/world/775435The former premier Mykola Azarov also said he does not condemn Yanukovych for leaving Kiev and heading for the country’s east when his liquidation was reportedly being organized.
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He said Yanukovych had the opportunity to "keep order in the country," prevent the February 2014 coup.
"When an operation to shoot dead people on Maidan [Independence Square in downtown Kiev, the symbol of Ukrainian protests] was organized, the entire world and Ukraine were frightened — it was for the first time in our history that over 130 people were cold-bloodedly [shot dead] on Maidan, 26 of them being law enforcement officers," Azarov said.
"In this context, Yanukovych lost his heart and the hands of those who plotted a coup were free. He was called a bloody tyrant and it was said he was subject to liquidation. Groups tasked with capturing him and implementing the Libyan variant were formed. He was to have died like Gaddafi," he said.
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Nemo, just to let you know that "Lycra" has become a terrorist organization according to the SUPREME LAW OF THE EMPIRE... even if the members of this terrorist organization can't recognize it... how could they !?! ahahah. As soon as they try to censor/intimidate/harass/what ever an AMERICAN CITIZEN => Gitmo, drone strikes, who cares... as long as they are "neutralized" (on a chemical level of course), and just to be clear they can have the state backing of a very little middle eastern state and an idiotic republic... don't thread on US, it could be deadly (to be CRYSTAL CLEAR). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_League_against_Racism_and_Anti-Semitism#FinancingAnd if a fucking NAZI of the LYCRA read that: just that you too know OUR GOD GIVEN RIGHTS (so that as a victim of the EMPIRE FORCES you will be aware of OUR rights). edit: In the Empire security memos are published : sometimes they are called KILL RIGHTS... yea constant revolution, only China (and inside the fsb/gru in Russia) respects American Rights in the Empire fully. edit 2: clear illustration of why 2A come after 1A.
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The following is a very interesting interview with Paul Craig Roberts: PCR Interviewed by the Russian analytical magazine Political Education.http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/02/04/pcr-interviewed-russian-analytical-magazine-political-education/It's both in Russian and English. ...
Now Russia has an Ukrainian problem, brought to Vladimir Putin courtesy of Washington. Washington hoped that its grab of Ukraine would result in Russia being evicted from its naval base in Crimea, but this hope was frustrated by the Crimean people, who voted overwhelmingly to reunite with Mother Russia. This enabled Russia to retain its warm water port.
The Russian provinces of eastern and southern Ukraine made the same vote and request, but the Russian government refused the request. Possibly the Russian government was under too much pressure from the West. Alternatively, perhaps the Russian government hoped to retain a Russian population within Ukraine in order to regain a political lever over Kiev. It is not in Russia’s or Ukraine’s interest for there to be conflict between the two.
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In my opinion, the Russian government believed that Europe had more sense and more independence from Washington than it possesses. Russia thought that Europe would want to avoid the conflict that Washington was preparing for them and, therefore, would be reassured by the Russian government’s refusal of the break-away provinces’ requests and Russia’s lack of provocative action. Russia is not the problem, Putin kept telling the European vassals of Washington.
As it turned out, Europe is more firmly under Washington’s thumb than the Russian government realized. European politicians are even willing to harm the interests of their own countries in order to serve Washington.
The Russian government now understands that Europe lacks political independence. Putin has publicly acknowledged this fact. This improved understanding of the situation that Russia faces requires a rethinking of the situation in Ukraine.
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Your statements are all true! Thank you for educating the naive people who blindly believe western media.
Question. Why are the presidents of France and Germany in such a hurry to reach a deal with Putin now?
Is it because of Kerry's visit to Kiev and the giving of heavy weapons to Kiev?
Maybe they sense war is in the air with Russia very soon?
What do you think?
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Your statements are all true! Thank you for educating the naive people who blindly believe western media.
Question. Why are the presidents of France and Germany in such a hurry to reach a deal with Putin now?
Is it because of Kerry's visit to Kiev and the giving of heavy weapons to Kiev?
Maybe they sense war is in the air with Russia very soon?
What do you think?
Both Germany, France and Russia are the losers of the ongoing conflict. The economies of France and Germany alone are losing billions of euros. This is not the first attempt by the French and German leaders to build at least some kind of bridges (while continuing to speak of sanctions so as not to antagonise Washington), but each time these attempts were fouled by some false flag, be it MH-17 or Charlie. So I wouldn't say that they are "in such a hurry" - they are simply continuing the ongoing process. Russia may indeed respond with force if US/NATO flies in more heavy military equipment, a variation on the South Ossetia solution may be deployed, but that will be the last resort to prevent a wholesale murder of Russians in Novorossia, and will happen only if absolutely all attempts at diplomacy fail. Kerry's visit to Kiev does worry me. From all the previous cases, it is a harbinger of some false flag or an increase in military activity.
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they have other means of communication. kerry flying to kiev is a sign for the whole world and especially putin that usa will back ukraine at any moment they wish. he'll shake hands do a photo and go back into the plane. people like him are not playing a regulatory role in the process.
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[...] The situation is becoming more acute because [John] Kerry’s visit today [to Kiev] does not exclude the possible delivery of lethal weapons to Ukraine. That of course, would provoke a new spiral of escalation and would threaten not only our territory, but also the Russian Federation. That would cause serious damage to European countries, so it must not be allowed to happen. Mr Pushilin said that so far the Minsk process had looked like “an imitation of talks”. He said that Ukrainian shelling of settlements in eastern Ukraine was "only intensifying" and that "all kinds of heavy weapons are being used against us - not against soldiers but against civilians and infrastructure. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/11392108/Ukraine-crisis-Angela-Merkel-and-Francois-Hollande-to-fly-to-Russia-live.html
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Yes, Kerry came to Kiev, along with Nudelman/Nuland (this time without her trademark cookies) and Psaki. Proroshenko further proved that Ukraine is not sovereign in that he spoke exclusively English, thus signalling his subservience to Kerry. And Kerry was blabbering about Russia being to blame for all the sins and wanting peace and delivering lethal weapons to Kiev, and patting Poroshenko on the back for the new law legalising execution of the spot of any conscript who refuses to fight for the Nazi government ( http://rt.com/news/229739-ukraine-army-shoot-defectors/). By the way, I now think that Merkel and Hollande are actually running interference with Putin in Moscow, so as to mask Kerry's work in Kiev. Those two are so compromised that it is hard to think that they will be doing anything without a green light from Washington. Merkel, Hollande, Putin to discuss end to Ukraine's civil war at Moscow talks http://rt.com/news/229563-hollande-merkel-ukraine-peace/Now. Possible False Flag Alert!Kiev agreed to evacuation of civilians from Debaltsevo (all the while shelling civilians in Donetsk - 8 killed today) The evacuation will start tomorrow 6th of January at 11 am, in civilian buses. All who want to leave, can leave in either of two directions. http://itar-tass.com/en/world/775798This complacency from Kiev is uncharacteristic. Add to that a visit from the US handlers - each such prior visit signalled a murderous act of exceptional brutality from Kiev. And add the following intelligence report: DNR has evidence that Kiev prepares a provocation in Debaltsevo, planning to hit with artillery a bus, evacuating civilians from the town. Then present the shooting as coming from DNR, spread it in MSM and present it during the coming Munchen convention so as to classify the republic as a terrorist organisation. The information was collected from interrogation of an officer, Alexander Marchenko, of 25th battalion, who surrendered to DNR on the 2nd of February. http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1744916
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February 05, 2015, 09:55:34 PM |
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it seems most guy in this topic from Russia and Ukraine
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