Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread

[buwaytress]

If Man Utd beat Liverpool next math I will make a personal donation to one of the United charities. Am sure a Red Devil in the pool can help me locate one...

Because whatever the problems we have, even if we were playing backups, teens and veterans, Elliott and Milner have got to be miles better than anyone in a United shirt now.

So yeah, I rarely put out silly ultimatums but we have to not lose to United. Many unthinkable things but I couldn't stomach that. The first Liverpool match of the season I can watch live cannot end that way... -D

[cryptofrka]

We really did not do ourselves any favors in Fulham and CP games. We could have gone to Trafford filled with confidence and not needing a win - I'm sure we would have won that game.

Going there needing a win is never fun, the derby is more than a simple 90 minutes game. Sometimes the quality of the team is irrelevant - especially when the better team is under pressure to get the result.

Still - United is really bad and is easy to play through so I do expect us to dominate the game. Hope it will be enough for a win, because even a draw puts us in a horrible position.

[Harkorede]

I guess we can rule out Liverpool as a title contender this year so far,they have made two surprise results in the first two weeks of the Premier League and this to me says a lot.I am not mad that I lost two bets on two times that I did bet on them,I am mad at the way they played.I wonder who got this right in the pool as I think no one would imagine Liverpool screwing up twice except their hottest haters.

Rule out ? It's just game 2 of 38! Not by a whisker will I rule them out just yet, Man City will definitely also have their woes and 4 points difference after 2 games is never significant enough to draw a conclusion on who is the title contender or relegation favorite. If that's a way draw a conclusion everyone should say/believe that Man United are relegation bound come the end of the season going by the caliber of teams they've lost their first two matches to.

[Trofo]

We really did not do ourselves any favors in Fulham and CP games. We could have gone to Trafford filled with confidence and not needing a win - I'm sure we would have won that game.

Going there needing a win is never fun, the derby is more than a simple 90 minutes game. Sometimes the quality of the team is irrelevant - especially when the better team is under pressure to get the result.

Still - United is really bad and is easy to play through so I do expect us to dominate the game. Hope it will be enough for a win, because even a draw puts us in a horrible position.

United is currently the easiest opponent in the whole league, their defense is non existent and I am expecting Liverpool to went some of their frustrations here. If Liverpool is under pressure what to say about United? They have no team cohesion and look ready to burst. Clean sheet is probably sience fiction for them and I don't expect them to even be able to do much in attack.

Good thing thay play against Liverpool so it will be less embarrassing to concede several goals.

[tokeweed]

I'm not sure if this is good news and not sure if Elon Musk is serious but he said he's buying Manchester United.  I mean why would he joke about something like this?  I haven't looked it yet but the Glazers haven't made any official statements yet...

And there's this hilarious reply from some random guy.  Lolol.  



Anyway, I really hope Man United gets bought by Elon Musk.  Just to have another interesting thing going on this season.  And United needs a fresh look.

[casperBGD]

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Anyway, I really hope Man United gets bought by Elon Musk.  Just to have another interesting thing going on this season.  And United needs a fresh look.

would not call it serious, but we can expect everything from Elon, maybe he can make Giggs to play again

United started really lousy, but Arsenal started in same fashion last season, being no.1 for memes after three rounds, when international break come, but eventually fought for CL position till last round

a lot can happen to United as well

[tokeweed]

^  United started really bad because the current squad isn't Ten Hag's squad.  He hasn't even acquired a player of his choice in the midfield and at the front.  When Man United announced their next manager is gonna be Ten Hag, I expected the club to be a Dutch contingent with the squad's core players being some of the best Dutch players.  But no...  

As for Elon Musk, why would he say something like that if it isn't true?  I think it's true.  But we'll see.  And yeah we can expect everything fom him.  Including sending Maguire to Mars. 

[tomahawk9]

As for Elon Musk, why would he say something like that if it isn't true?  I think it's true.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1559760618537848832

speaking of Man utd, you guys seen their latest transfer targets? Casemiro, Joao Felix and Pulisic... hmm, a storm is coming. Be afraid, rest of the Premier League teams, be very afraid . . . . lol 🤣

[KTChampions]

If Man Utd beat Liverpool next math I will make a personal donation to one of the United charities. Am sure a Red Devil in the pool can help me locate one...

Because whatever the problems we have, even if we were playing backups, teens and veterans, Elliott and Milner have got to be miles better than anyone in a United shirt now.

So yeah, I rarely put out silly ultimatums but we have to not lose to United. Many unthinkable things but I couldn't stomach that. The first Liverpool match of the season I can watch live cannot end that way... -D

My desire to bet on United only gets stronger (with two bets already lost) 

5.10 - 4.60 - 1.61

In my opinion, the odds are absolutely inadequate. United is not Granada or anything. Even in a crisis, United can beat a strong opponent simply because of the importance of playing against a historical opponent, and now Liverpool are clearly in trouble. I understand that in the pool I have to predict the victory of Liverpool, but all my intuition protests against this.

[darxiaomi]

The main problem with Man United after Ferguson wnet out, was and is the bad transfer markets they have, they spend so much for players, and all the teams what trade with they exige so much money knowing Man Utd pays ever.

For bad players or good, they pay a minimum of 30/40 millions for nosense players.

[Welsh]

The main problem with Man United after Ferguson wnet out, was and is the bad transfer markets they have, they spend so much for players, and all the teams what trade with they exige so much money knowing Man Utd pays ever.

For bad players or good, they pay a minimum of 30/40 millions for nosense players.

While that might be true, they've got fantastic players. They actually had world class players in almost every position. Pogba despite the criticism he gets, was exceptional at what he does, but it seems he could never get going in a United shirt, and was never given the role he needed, regardless who was manager.

They still have fantastic players, but obviously something has seriously gone wrong at the club level, as we've seen multiple managers come, and go now. Players actively being vocal against the club, doesn't help morale, and while I always thought Ronaldo was a bad idea to bring back, he isn't helping the situation at all right now.

[Harkorede]

The main problem with Man United after Ferguson wnet out, was and is the bad transfer markets they have, they spend so much for players, and all the teams what trade with they exige so much money knowing Man Utd pays ever.

For bad players or good, they pay a minimum of 30/40 millions for nosense players.

While that might be true, they've got fantastic players. They actually had world class players in almost every position. Pogba despite the criticism he gets, was exceptional at what he does, but it seems he could never get going in a United shirt, and was never given the role he needed, regardless who was manager.

They still have fantastic players, but obviously something has seriously gone wrong at the club level, as we've seen multiple managers come, and go now. Players actively being vocal against the club, doesn't help morale, and while I always thought Ronaldo was a bad idea to bring back, he isn't helping the situation at all right now.

You're spot on with every points made, especially on the terms that most of the players those respective managers got were fantastic ones, but once there's a change in coach, there comes a new preference of players and some of these players gets played out of their preferred role which the initial manager got them for. Di Maria was a supposedly a flop at Man United but went on the to be back at his best at PSG, Pogba was also mediocre at Man Utd but that's what you'd expect when players have to adjust to a system entirely different after almost every 6 months or calendar year, I really thought when Mourinho joined the club, that he was going to be at least a 5-6 years deal at the minimal, and he was the best manager Man Utd had since Ferguson, and won them major trophies and that's because he stayed longer than other managers lasted at the club, I'm not a fan of his football tactics and ideology to say the least, but I think If Mourinho had remained at Man Utd till now, they'd be way better off right now.

[cryptofrka]

United is currently the easiest opponent in the whole league, their defense is non existent and I am expecting Liverpool to went some of their frustrations here. If Liverpool is under pressure what to say about United? They have no team cohesion and look ready to burst. Clean sheet is probably sience fiction for them and I don't expect them to even be able to do much in attack.

Good thing thay play against Liverpool so it will be less embarrassing to concede several goals.

Yeah, on paper. That's exactly the thing, I can recall so many games when Liverpool was shit, United was flying and they returned home losing to a Danny Murphy screamer.

Derby games are never easy and while I do agree that United looks like they will concede in every attack against them, it is still a game I will be watching nervously. I do expect us to beat them - but individually they still do possess enough quality to make it difficult for us if we don't bring out our A-game.

It is a must win game for both teams - which will help Liverpool in this situation.

[casperBGD]

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It is a must win game for both teams - which will help Liverpool in this situation.

I do not think that United is getting this match, as must win
it is good for them to play Liverpool now, so even a lose can be taken as lost Derby, not another humiliation against some Brighton class team

however, they are going to lose it probably, no matter both teams having difficult times playing as season starts, two points so far for Liverpool is comparable with "potatoes" for United, when ambitions are leveled

[Welsh]

Worth noting, that the Man United fans are planning a protest, and therefore the match might get cancelled. I hope it doesn't, and honestly I believe there should be penalties for the club if it does, since its their doing. If it gets cancelled we should be given the points, and United should forfeit, otherwise any club could stage a protest when their players are injured etc.

I understand protests, I just wish there was a better way of going about it. A lot of fans are having their first experience watching Liverpool/United, and it ends up getting cancelled, which might mean they can't afford to go for quite some time again. So, while I definitely do agree, I'd like to see them protest outside of matches too, and not just on match days.

If the game does go ahead, I'll probably be going for a 2-0/3-0 to us, considering we aren't firing on all cylinders right now, and have a few injuries.

[swogerino]

If Man Utd beat Liverpool next math I will make a personal donation to one of the United charities. Am sure a Red Devil in the pool can help me locate one...

Because whatever the problems we have, even if we were playing backups, teens and veterans, Elliott and Milner have got to be miles better than anyone in a United shirt now.

So yeah, I rarely put out silly ultimatums but we have to not lose to United. Many unthinkable things but I couldn't stomach that. The first Liverpool match of the season I can watch live cannot end that way... -D

My desire to bet on United only gets stronger (with two bets already lost) 

5.10 - 4.60 - 1.61

In my opinion, the odds are absolutely inadequate. United is not Granada or anything. Even in a crisis, United can beat a strong opponent simply because of the importance of playing against a historical opponent, and now Liverpool are clearly in trouble. I understand that in the pool I have to predict the victory of Liverpool, but all my intuition protests against this.

I think the opposite,I think the Liverpool odds are quite high because of them failing to win any of the first two games of the Premier League,if they had won just a single game I think the odd would be like near 1.40 or something like that considering the really weak form of Manchester United so far,despite being only in the beginning of the season.I think we should bet on Liverpool as I consider it a sure win because if Liverpool fails to win the third game in a row then it is bye bye for the title fight for real.

[tokeweed]

As for Elon Musk, why would he say something like that if it isn't true?  I think it's true.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1559760618537848832

speaking of Man utd, you guys seen their latest transfer targets? Casemiro, Joao Felix and Pulisic... hmm, a storm is coming. Be afraid, rest of the Premier League teams, be very afraid . . . . lol 🤣

Ah...  Trolled once again.  Lol.  It's too good to be true in hind sight.  But there's this guy called Sir Jim Ratcliffe who seems serious in wanting to buy United.  He had a last minute bid on Chelsea for around 4 billion or something that failed.

And yeah, Man United is getting really desperate.  They also got past acquisitions that turned out bad like Fred and the Wan Bissaka guy..  Ronaldo too but at least he's goal scoring threat.

Anyway, just curious.  Is Joao Felix really a flop at Atletico Madrid? 

[Harkorede]

Anyway, just curious.  Is Joao Felix really a flop at Atletico Madrid? 

I wouldn't say he's a flop at Atletico Madrid, his stats weren't great compared to the numbers he had at Benfica, but It could be Simeone's coaching style that's actually having an effect on him playing at his full potential.

If Atletico Madrid coach really do think he's a flop, I'm sure they would considered one of the offers they've received for him so far during this current summer transfer window, the last one actually being a £110million offer from Man Utd which was reported by mirror.co.uk to have been rejected by Atletico Madrid.

[KTChampions]

My desire to bet on United only gets stronger (with two bets already lost) 

5.10 - 4.60 - 1.61

In my opinion, the odds are absolutely inadequate. United is not Granada or anything. Even in a crisis, United can beat a strong opponent simply because of the importance of playing against a historical opponent, and now Liverpool are clearly in trouble. I understand that in the pool I have to predict the victory of Liverpool, but all my intuition protests against this.

I think the opposite,I think the Liverpool odds are quite high because of them failing to win any of the first two games of the Premier League,if they had won just a single game I think the odd would be like near 1.40 or something like that considering the really weak form of Manchester United so far,despite being only in the beginning of the season.I think we should bet on Liverpool as I consider it a sure win because if Liverpool fails to win the third game in a row then it is bye bye for the title fight for real.

Don't you think that this is a kind of wishful thinking - "if Liverpool don't win, something that you don't want to happen will happen"? I think so, so we shouldn't take it into account. In addition, the same thoughts can be applied to the third defeat in a row for United - zero points after the first three rounds - something unbelievable for what one may say is not the last team in the Premier League.

[casperBGD]

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 In addition, the same thoughts can be applied to the third defeat in a row for United - zero points after the first three rounds - something unbelievable for what one may say is not the last team in the Premier League.

anything can happen in this match, but Liverpool is closer to a win, and odds @1.6 are value bets, no matter current placement for both teams
United is simply playing miserably, and you cannot hang on name to play against PL teams, all those are playing great football, and Liverpool is playing better than most PL teams

I would assume that @1.6 is on Derby status, if there was not a Derby status, it will probably be @1.4 or similar