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April 27, 2013, 09:32:59 PM
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OK. Attack was massive, but not particularly harmful.
I enabled payouts and possibility to update withdrawal addresses.

Attention!!!
Under any circumstances don't use on Coinotron website password that you are using on other sites. Sites perpetually get hacked, their user databases compromised, passwords are then used to log in on our website.

General rule:
Use different password on each cryptocoin site you have account.

Telling users that it's 'not smart to use the same password' is a pretty damn weak excuse for not having adequate security. What did you do? Store the passwords in plaintext or something else stupid?
Also: Just noticed that you don't even allow users the option of changing password. Seriously?
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April 27, 2013, 09:37:04 PM
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Btw, still no payout

My USB Erupter GROUP BUY https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=252180.0

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April 27, 2013, 09:49:40 PM
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Payout ok, I appologise for my doubts

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April 27, 2013, 09:52:58 PM
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OK. Attack was massive, but not particularly harmful.
I enabled payouts and possibility to update withdrawal addresses.

Attention!!!
Under any circumstances don't use on Coinotron website password that you are using on other sites. Sites perpetually get hacked, their user databases compromised, passwords are then used to log in on our website.

General rule:
Use different password on each cryptocoin site you have account.

Telling users that it's 'not smart to use the same password' is a pretty damn weak excuse for not having adequate security. What did you do? Store the passwords in plaintext or something else stupid?
Also: Just noticed that you don't even allow users the option of changing password. Seriously?

I think we'd all like to know the answer to this question. Are usernames and passwords encrypted or not?

Edit: Let me rephrase that: historically were username/passwords encrypted? What is the case presently?
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April 27, 2013, 10:02:04 PM
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OK. Attack was massive, but not particularly harmful.
I enabled payouts and possibility to update withdrawal addresses.

Attention!!!
Under any circumstances don't use on Coinotron website password that you are using on other sites. Sites perpetually get hacked, their user databases compromised, passwords are then used to log in on our website.

General rule:
Use different password on each cryptocoin site you have account.

Telling users that it's 'not smart to use the same password' is a pretty damn weak excuse for not having adequate security. What did you do? Store the passwords in plaintext or something else stupid?
Also: Just noticed that you don't even allow users the option of changing password. Seriously?

Telling users that it's 'not smart to use the same password' is stupid, because part of those users are even more stupid and they will prefer to look for all the lame excuses they can think about, than change their habits, and for once do something smart and secure.

On the other hand, if there was something like a brute force attack, I can think of a very simple way to stop it - captcha.
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April 27, 2013, 10:07:23 PM
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OK. Attack was massive, but not particularly harmful.
I enabled payouts and possibility to update withdrawal addresses.

Attention!!!
Under any circumstances don't use on Coinotron website password that you are using on other sites. Sites perpetually get hacked, their user databases compromised, passwords are then used to log in on our website.

General rule:
Use different password on each cryptocoin site you have account.

Telling users that it's 'not smart to use the same password' is a pretty damn weak excuse for not having adequate security. What did you do? Store the passwords in plaintext or something else stupid?
Also: Just noticed that you don't even allow users the option of changing password. Seriously?

Um...seriously? A brute force attack means that multiple passwords are attempted and that if you are using stupid easy passwords they get in, or if you used the same one elsewhere and they were compromised then you are screwed.  Both of these scenarios have nothing to do with Coinotron and everything to do with you.  Coinotron secures your information, you better as well.

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April 27, 2013, 11:04:35 PM
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ppc server appears to be down
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April 27, 2013, 11:07:44 PM
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OK. Attack was massive, but not particularly harmful.
I enabled payouts and possibility to update withdrawal addresses.

Attention!!!
Under any circumstances don't use on Coinotron website password that you are using on other sites. Sites perpetually get hacked, their user databases compromised, passwords are then used to log in on our website.

General rule:
Use different password on each cryptocoin site you have account.

Telling users that it's 'not smart to use the same password' is a pretty damn weak excuse for not having adequate security. What did you do? Store the passwords in plaintext or something else stupid?
Also: Just noticed that you don't even allow users the option of changing password. Seriously?

Um...seriously? A brute force attack means that multiple passwords are attempted and that if you are using stupid easy passwords they get in, or if you used the same one elsewhere and they were compromised then you are screwed.  Both of these scenarios have nothing to do with Coinotron and everything to do with you.  Coinotron secures your information, you better as well.


Of course you should't have password '123' on any site and that's not my point. A brute force attack has zero-chance of success if adequate security exist in the first place. No, I username wasn't 'GOD' with password '123' by any means but I still want to know more about what and how they were compromised then just 'if you have the same password anywhere else, change'.

Not offering a change password on the site is the killer though. Completely insane.
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April 27, 2013, 11:09:55 PM
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OK. Attack was massive, but not particularly harmful.
I enabled payouts and possibility to update withdrawal addresses.

Attention!!!
Under any circumstances don't use on Coinotron website password that you are using on other sites. Sites perpetually get hacked, their user databases compromised, passwords are then used to log in on our website.

General rule:
Use different password on each cryptocoin site you have account.

Telling users that it's 'not smart to use the same password' is a pretty damn weak excuse for not having adequate security. What did you do? Store the passwords in plaintext or something else stupid?
Also: Just noticed that you don't even allow users the option of changing password. Seriously?

Um...seriously? A brute force attack means that multiple passwords are attempted and that if you are using stupid easy passwords they get in, or if you used the same one elsewhere and they were compromised then you are screwed.  Both of these scenarios have nothing to do with Coinotron and everything to do with you.  Coinotron secures your information, you better as well.


Of course you should't have password '123' on any site and that's not my point. A brute force attack has zero-chance of success if adequate security exist in the first place. No, I username wasn't 'GOD' with password '123' by any means but I still want to know more about what and how they were compromised then just 'if you have the same password anywhere else, change'.

Not offering a change password on the site is the killer though. Completely insane.

You can change passwords. Click "My Account", and its all the way down at the bottom.
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April 27, 2013, 11:21:45 PM
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OK. Attack was massive, but not particularly harmful.
I enabled payouts and possibility to update withdrawal addresses.

Attention!!!
Under any circumstances don't use on Coinotron website password that you are using on other sites. Sites perpetually get hacked, their user databases compromised, passwords are then used to log in on our website.

General rule:
Use different password on each cryptocoin site you have account.

Telling users that it's 'not smart to use the same password' is a pretty damn weak excuse for not having adequate security. What did you do? Store the passwords in plaintext or something else stupid?
Also: Just noticed that you don't even allow users the option of changing password. Seriously?

Um...seriously? A brute force attack means that multiple passwords are attempted and that if you are using stupid easy passwords they get in, or if you used the same one elsewhere and they were compromised then you are screwed.  Both of these scenarios have nothing to do with Coinotron and everything to do with you.  Coinotron secures your information, you better as well.


Of course you should't have password '123' on any site and that's not my point. A brute force attack has zero-chance of success if adequate security exist in the first place. No, I username wasn't 'GOD' with password '123' by any means but I still want to know more about what and how they were compromised then just 'if you have the same password anywhere else, change'.

Not offering a change password on the site is the killer though. Completely insane.

You can change passwords. Click "My Account", and its all the way down at the bottom.

Thank you, I guess that part of my critisizm was wrong. Not that I can change it now though since the site is down.
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April 27, 2013, 11:26:42 PM
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OK. Attack was massive, but not particularly harmful.
I enabled payouts and possibility to update withdrawal addresses.

Attention!!!
Under any circumstances don't use on Coinotron website password that you are using on other sites. Sites perpetually get hacked, their user databases compromised, passwords are then used to log in on our website.

General rule:
Use different password on each cryptocoin site you have account.

Telling users that it's 'not smart to use the same password' is a pretty damn weak excuse for not having adequate security. What did you do? Store the passwords in plaintext or something else stupid?
Also: Just noticed that you don't even allow users the option of changing password. Seriously?

Um...seriously? A brute force attack means that multiple passwords are attempted and that if you are using stupid easy passwords they get in, or if you used the same one elsewhere and they were compromised then you are screwed.  Both of these scenarios have nothing to do with Coinotron and everything to do with you.  Coinotron secures your information, you better as well.


I suggest using a software like Keepass generating high entropy passwords that you can copy and paste.

I do not even know most of my passwords and they are between 32 and 256 digits, mostly in the 64 digits range, if they are not limited by site.

I suggest doing something similar and securing the key databases very well with a phrase password that is very, very long and includes a random number and special character somewhere.

Anything else is just begging to get your ass kicked... but if you do it with a program, you only need to remember key databases, where you can use mnemonic devices to write down the password. This way, no one could even rubber crypto you, since you'd have to answer "Sorry, i have no fucking clue what my password is."
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April 27, 2013, 11:27:00 PM
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is the ltc pool down
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April 28, 2013, 12:17:19 AM
Last edit: April 28, 2013, 06:43:45 AM by tinman951
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I agree, all of my miners on two systems say connection problems, or just aren't reporting on the coinotron stats page.

**EDIT**  I quit all of my miners completely and started them over again.  One I had to delete the miner from coinotron and recreate it.  That may have been a fluke though.

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April 28, 2013, 07:39:20 AM
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Connection problems today, disconnects.

15% stales/invalid rate at a conservative intensity and thread count which was consistently yielding 3-4% stales/invalids. Hashing and work flow unchanged, just the connection problems and stales/invalids.

I'm in the U.S. so I'm sure some of the problems could be between here and the servers in Poland or wherever they are. Destroyed all workers, rebuilt them changed the password for my primary username and for the new workers, long, complex passwords. Restarted, tested card with the same settings as before and different settings, reference board Sapphire 7950 on testing rigs, same cards in mining rigs.
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April 28, 2013, 08:34:20 AM
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I'm showing about 14% stale/invalid shares in the LTC pool this morning.

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April 28, 2013, 01:16:50 PM
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also < 10% stale  Undecided
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April 28, 2013, 03:57:13 PM
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Coinotron, when we met you were so charming and charismatic. So pretty and so vivacious. Now, things have changed...

Ive met someone new, and although our long distance relationship was working for a while, I met someone over here who gives me the LTC I need.

Goodby and good luck... it was nice knowing you.

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April 28, 2013, 04:43:23 PM
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Can I withdraw coins if I put in the  Payout threshold a smaller number than the amount I currently have. Is there a manual payout?
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April 28, 2013, 04:57:33 PM
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Can I withdraw coins if I put in the  Payout threshold a smaller number than the amount I currently have. Is there a manual payout?

There is no manual payout. If you want to cash out your balance just send request to support: coinotron@gmail.com

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April 28, 2013, 05:49:13 PM
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Can I withdraw coins if I put in the  Payout threshold a smaller number than the amount I currently have. Is there a manual payout?

There is no manual payout. If you want to cash out your balance just send request to support: coinotron@gmail.com

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