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Author Topic: [POOL] --- Coinotron --- NEW in PascalCoin pool: 2% RBPPS, 4% PPS ---------  (Read 271732 times)
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April 28, 2013, 08:34:20 AM
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I'm showing about 14% stale/invalid shares in the LTC pool this morning.

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April 28, 2013, 01:16:50 PM
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also < 10% stale  Undecided

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April 28, 2013, 03:57:13 PM
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Coinotron, when we met you were so charming and charismatic. So pretty and so vivacious. Now, things have changed...

Ive met someone new, and although our long distance relationship was working for a while, I met someone over here who gives me the LTC I need.

Goodby and good luck... it was nice knowing you.

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April 28, 2013, 04:43:23 PM
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Can I withdraw coins if I put in the  Payout threshold a smaller number than the amount I currently have. Is there a manual payout?
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April 28, 2013, 04:57:33 PM
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Can I withdraw coins if I put in the  Payout threshold a smaller number than the amount I currently have. Is there a manual payout?

There is no manual payout. If you want to cash out your balance just send request to support: coinotron@gmail.com

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April 28, 2013, 05:49:13 PM
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Can I withdraw coins if I put in the  Payout threshold a smaller number than the amount I currently have. Is there a manual payout?

There is no manual payout. If you want to cash out your balance just send request to support: coinotron@gmail.com

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April 28, 2013, 05:56:24 PM
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Do you plan to support Feathercoin?

Network hashrate is steadily growing. Stable over 1100 MH/s now.
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April 28, 2013, 06:46:59 PM
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Fuck these stales and issues ive moved to wemineltc.com and will never look back, they are frigan awesome they even have google authenticator!

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April 28, 2013, 07:00:40 PM
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they even have google authenticator!

That's no news.

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April 28, 2013, 09:20:48 PM
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I have around 7,5% rejected... Why is the number so much higher here than notroll for an example?
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April 28, 2013, 10:00:01 PM
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Hi.

Sorry if this question is already asked(i check only few last pages of thread), but why pool grant less coins than intended / shown on the main page (Reward system).
I am use PPC pool now.
I check few times - reward always less. ~the equivalent of an additional commission of 5%.
For example i open (refresh) Reward system. It says Share value = 0.00866979. (i use RBPPS system)
Wait while miner complete next accepted share (or few but before new block change).
Refresh stats in account and count how many coins added (new balance - old balance, including unconfirmed, or just current round reward column).
In this example it was 0.0082 PPC per 1 share for me.
0.082/0.00866979 - 5.5% less if compared to normal Share value.
I check 0.00866979(number from main page) - it is a correct value to current diff at this block and already include 2% pool commission:
406.75*98%*8/367819.4=0.00866979

One more example (after diff change):
406.75*98%*8/370678.4=0.008602929115913 (0.00860291 on reward section)
From my stats
0.16459231-0.15641953 = 0.00817278 i.e. 5% less (~7% total commission)

Near the same was for TRC - but i not mine TRC now and not save exact numbers...

So what's going on?

P.S.
Last real rewards (0.00820297 per accepted share) is almost precisely between RBPPS(-2%)=0.00862032 wich i use and PPS (-12%)=0.00774069 wich i never uses on this pool.

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April 29, 2013, 01:39:41 PM
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Is the sie still down?  Is anyone mining? I keep geting -
2013-04-29 09:35:31: Listener for "Default": [2013-04-29 09:34:16] Started cgminer 2.11.3
2013-04-29 09:35:31: Listener for "Default": [2013-04-29 09:34:16] Probing for an alive pool
2013-04-29 09:35:31: Listener for "Default": [2013-04-29 09:35:16] No servers were found that could be used to get work from.
2013-04-29 09:35:31: Listener for "Default": [2013-04-29 09:35:16] Please check the details from the list below of the servers you have input
2013-04-29 09:35:31: Listener for "Default": [2013-04-29 09:35:16] Most likely you have input the wrong URL, forgotten to add a port, or have not set up workers
I use the same settings I used before the attack.
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April 29, 2013, 05:47:55 PM
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site seems to be down for me
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April 29, 2013, 07:02:39 PM
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Hi.

Sorry if this question is already asked(i check only few last pages of thread), but why pool grant less coins than intended / shown on the main page (Reward system).
I am use PPC pool now.
I check few times - reward always less. ~the equivalent of an additional commission of 5%.
For example i open (refresh) Reward system. It says Share value = 0.00866979. (i use RBPPS system)
Wait while miner complete next accepted share (or few but before new block change).
Refresh stats in account and count how many coins added (new balance - old balance, including unconfirmed, or just current round reward column).
In this example it was 0.0082 PPC per 1 share for me.
0.082/0.00866979 - 5.5% less if compared to normal Share value.
I check 0.00866979(number from main page) - it is a correct value to current diff at this block and already include 2% pool commission:
406.75*98%*8/367819.4=0.00866979

One more example (after diff change):
406.75*98%*8/370678.4=0.008602929115913 (0.00860291 on reward section)
From my stats
0.16459231-0.15641953 = 0.00817278 i.e. 5% less (~7% total commission)

Near the same was for TRC - but i not mine TRC now and not save exact numbers...

So what's going on?

P.S.
Last real rewards (0.00820297 per accepted share) is almost precisely between RBPPS(-2%)=0.00862032 wich i use and PPS (-12%)=0.00774069 wich i never uses on this pool.

PPC. Here is explanation:
This is just rough estimation of reward not reward itself.

You must remember that during the round we don't know what will be the value of solved block. In other words block value changes because of algorithm of constant correction of difficulty. This is property of PPC and FRC.
And I'm just guessing what this new value will be based on value of last known solved block.
 
It is calculated like this:
Current round reward = 0.95 * Previous Block value
This affects share value as well.

When pool solves block we know its exact value and use that value in reward calculation. ( no 0.95 multiplier )

TRC has constant block value = 25. But there is another catch. TRC difficulty changes rapidly. Sometimes it increases/decreases by 50% in just 1 round. There are Coinotron rounds when network difficulty changed 3 times. Share value changes together with difficulty. It complicates calculations. Calculations based on number of submitted shares and share value at the end of the round give you in such cases wrong results.

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April 30, 2013, 01:07:47 AM
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Hmm
So in other words these additional 5% is a kind of insurance is temporarily holds for the event of a sharp drop in the value of  next round block?

Although not understand why it is needed in RBPPS reward system? In RBPPS a whole reward (not just 5%) is holded not only to the moment when the value of the next block becomes known, but until it full confirmation (additional 520 blocks).
Why is it needed in PPS system(+variable block value) is understandable - because where the money can be withdrawn immediately after accounting before the end of the round.

Side issue- Obtained for such a scheme of calculation you have to store the data on number of shares received prom each of the miners in each mined block(round) separately (or at least 520 of the latter) to count values of shares corrently?

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April 30, 2013, 03:52:58 AM
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MAAAAAN.... just saw

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2013-04-27: If you used same password on any other site, please change it ASAP !!

Now this is ambiguous! I thought YOU were hacked and you are suggesting we change the credentials in other sites if it is the same..... had to come here to get a clarification...

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April 30, 2013, 04:38:13 AM
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I'm getting 23% stales and half the hashing rate stated in my miner.  Is there some magic setting?
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April 30, 2013, 08:08:43 AM
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dont use this pool until they fix it. owners should shut it down until they fix all this stales and rejects..
pathetic
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April 30, 2013, 10:42:43 AM
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I'm getting only a fraction of coins from what I should be getting, less than a half. I've got the expected amount yesterday, but today I've been robbed by this pool, maybe its stat server is broken or something. My rejects and stales are below 0.5%, no problems on my side.

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April 30, 2013, 02:05:32 PM
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FYI

I think I solved high stales percentages issue. There were several huge botnets mining at Coinotron. I blocked them.

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