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[TopTort777]

Andrei Arlovski VS Jake Collier - Split Decision - LOST

The Zebra Pattern Curse continues, and yeah TopTort777 was pretty much right by calling this a curse, Andrei Arlovski still got those lethal punches both men are committed to giving each other punches, knees, and kicks, while in round 3 Collier is pretty much aggressive and desperate after that headbutt Collier scored a takedown aswell but there is no much time to do anything for Arlovski, in  the end, three of the judge scored for Arlovski, it was a sensational win for Andrei Arlovski despite his age he is pretty much tough to take those nasty punches of the younger Jake Collier, well my judgment was really clouded, and despite Arlovski's age he pretty much has that experience in winning the fight, that is what I learn that he can do, but if he would fight a guy on the top 5 of their division, then it is likely he would surely lose,

I am disappointed with Arlovski performance. He should have made a much more quicker win, instead the fight went full distance. Average young heavyweight caused so much trouble to Arlovski. Now he is a series of 4 wins. He will get someone from top, which will be more younger and has more stamina. If Arlovski next opponent will be from top15, I will bet on his opponent. Glover Teixeira is almost same age, but looks more fresh in his fights.

in  the end, three of the judge scored for Arlovski, it was a sensational win for Andrei Arlovski

Fight ended with split decision One of the judges even gave 27–30, which means according to him Collier won all three rounds

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[YuginKadoya]

What a night, and what a main event. As expected the results were pretty much all over the place, but a entertaining night definitely. I thought the judges got the decisions correct, and the main event definitely delivered. Chito looked very good, and I know a lot of people will think that Font did enough in those rounds with his volume, but I'm of the impression that damage is better than low impact volume. Font was probably hurt 5/6 times in that fight, and I'm still not sure how he managed to survive until the end. He looked absolutely out on his feet a few times, and obviously wore the damage on his face.

I imagine after that Font will be having a rather lengthy time away from the cage, Chito on the other hand didn't take much damage so his recovery could be relatively quick.

For those who are saying that Rob Font should win the decision because of his volume on the 1st and 2nd round, they don't watch real careful what really happened, the 1st and 2nd round was a setup for Chito Vera so he knows what Rob Font damage output and he can do and the style of Font, I don't know if Font doesn't have the damage he needs or Marlon Vera just does have a good chin in withstanding those blows, and when Vera have calculated what Font can do and that is the time he unleashes those devastating blow, Chito Vera really improves his style and he is right that hard work paid off, and that punching power and knee Rob Font is really hurt and wobbles, it was a great fight and Rob Font did go the distance,

I was surprised Font lasted for the whole 5 rounds tbh.  It looks like the botched weigh in thing wasn't much of a factor but then again maybe it did since Font's strikes didn't really cause any real damage...  Dunno.  And one thing I didn't like about Vera was he was getting hit a lot.  So if Vera's next match is for three rounds and vs a high volume striker, I am def fading him.

A rematch vs Song Yadong should be in order since their first one was a robbery.  Yadong won that one.

From what you have said that Rob Font looks exhausted because he didn't reach the weight's I know that Marlon Vera could have a chance, but I never really expected something like this can happen, Rob Font was extremely Busted bloodied, and exhausted, you can see that Marlon "Chito" Vera really wants to finish Rob Font and excited to approach Rob Font, without any hesitation and because he can feel that he is winning it, and In actuality, I am a bit reserve and because Rob Font is the favorite to win, but even though that is the case I still go with Marlon Vera, and thanks to what you have said the hesitation has gone.

[TopTort777]

UFC 274: Oliveira vs. Gaethje



Date: May 8, 2022
Main Card: SUN, MAY 8 / 5:00 AM EEST
Prelims: SUN, MAY 8 / 3:00 AM EEST
Early prelims: SUN, MAY 8 / 12:30 AM EEST

Venue: UFC Apex

Main card (ESPN+)
Lightweight: Charles Oliveira (c) vs. Justin Gaethje
Women's Strawweight: Rose Namajunas (c) vs. Carla Esparza
Lightweight: Michael Chandler vs. Tony Ferguson            
Light Heavyweight: Maurício Rua vs. Ovince Saint Preux            
Lightweight: Donald Cerrone vs. Joe Lauzon

Prelims            
Welterweight: Randy Brown vs. Khaos Williams            
Women's Featherweight: Macy Chiasson vs. Norma Dumont            
Flyweight: Brandon Royval vs. Matt Schnell            
Heavyweight: Blagoy Ivanov vs. Marcos Rogério de Lima   

Early prelims
Welterweight: Francisco Trinaldo vs. Danny Roberts            
Women's Flyweight: Tracy Cortez vs. Melissa Gatto            
Flyweight: Kleydson Rodrigues vs. C.J. Vergara            
Women's Strawweight: Ariane Carnelossi vs. Lupita Godinez            
Bantamweight: Journey Newson vs. Fernie Garcia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_274

Finally an event where every main card fight is worth watching!

[inthelongrun]

Looking forward to these fights come fight night. Pretty exciting especially the main even between Oliveira and Gaethji. Although Oliveira is the favorite, it would be interesting if he can survive once Gaethji connects its powerful strikes.

In the semi-main event I already bet on Rose to stop Esparza. Chandler-Ferguson still guarantees fireworks but if there's someone that will lose badly needs to consider retirement. These two old warriors are already past their primes.

 

[TheNineClub]

I am disappointed with Arlovski performance. He should have made a much more quicker win, instead the fight went full distance. Average young heavyweight caused so much trouble to Arlovski. Now he is a series of 4 wins. He will get someone from top, which will be more younger and has more stamina. If Arlovski next opponent will be from top15, I will bet on his opponent. Glover Teixeira is almost same age, but looks more fresh in his fights.

The dude's 43 and an HW, quick is never an option XD also, Arlovski's last quick win was way back in 2015, so there were no indications things would be anything different from a decision this time.

UFC 274: Oliveira vs. Gaethje


Main card (ESPN+)
Lightweight: Charles Oliveira (c) vs. Justin Gaethje
Women's Strawweight: Rose Namajunas (c) vs. Carla Esparza
Lightweight: Michael Chandler vs. Tony Ferguson            
Light Heavyweight: Maurício Rua vs. Ovince Saint Preux            
Lightweight: Donald Cerrone vs. Joe Lauzon

The main card is stacked! I am actually looking forward to the Cerone / Lauzon fight, it could very well be either fight of the night or performance of the night. Cerone is spent on his last 4 fights that probably took a lot from him, and Lauzon has been inactive for 3 years, so any predictions are out the window. I would like to see Lauzon grapple Cerone rather than trying to duke it out with him, a battle he would surely lose.

I see clearer paths to victory for Oliveira and Chandler than I do for Gaethje and Ferguson. Chandler should take a much more slowly progressing and a measured approach than he had in his previous fights, and Oliveira actually needs to do what he has been doing for the past couple of fights and those are all of the things that they do better than their opponents. I don't see Ferg or Justin doing anything that much better that would level the playing field.

[notblox1]

I am really impressed with recent performance from 43 years old Andrei Arlovski who won with split decision against Jake Collier, and this is his four win in a row.
This was not one of those fight cards to remember, but I am reading that Marlon Vera could fight with Jose Aldo next after win against Rob Font.

[TopTort777]

Donald Cerrone, Jim Miller and Andrei Arlovski now hold the record of most wins in UFC. Every fighter has 23 win in their record.

This weekend Cowboy is facing Joe Lauzon, who was on a pause for quite a long time. Do you think on Sunday, Donald Cerrone will take a lead on most wins list ? I think yes, it looks like Lauzon is not a very strong fighter compared with Cerrone, and UFC gave Cerrone an easy fight (to raise his spirit probably), because he is on a series of 6 looses.

[electronicash]

Donald Cerrone, Jim Miller and Andrei Arlovski now hold the record of most wins in UFC. Every fighter has 23 win in their record.

This weekend Cowboy is facing Joe Lauzon, who was on a pause for quite a long time. Do you think on Sunday, Donald Cerrone will take a lead on most wins list ? I think yes, it looks like Lauzon is not a very strong fighter compared with Cerrone, and UFC gave Cerrone an easy fight (to raise his spirit probably), because he is on a series of 6 looses.

6 successive losses is terrible. i use to bet for the cowboy because he has done miracles in the cage. you can see him almost about to get knockout but turn the fight around. but now that he is old i think it's time for him to retire. when he fought McGregor i thought he can also land big shots but he just curl to cover. he use to be the goat.

[TopTort777]

Donald Cerrone, Jim Miller and Andrei Arlovski now hold the record of most wins in UFC. Every fighter has 23 win in their record.

This weekend Cowboy is facing Joe Lauzon, who was on a pause for quite a long time. Do you think on Sunday, Donald Cerrone will take a lead on most wins list ? I think yes, it looks like Lauzon is not a very strong fighter compared with Cerrone, and UFC gave Cerrone an easy fight (to raise his spirit probably), because he is on a series of 6 looses.

6 successive losses is terrible. i use to bet for the cowboy because he has done miracles in the cage. you can see him almost about to get knockout but turn the fight around. but now that he is old i think it's time for him to retire. when he fought McGregor i thought he can also land big shots but he just curl to cover. he use to be the goat.

He is not old, just 39 In the neighbour promotion Bellator, this weekend 47 y.o Cheick Kongo is having a title fight. Now that is old I dont think that Cerrone would retire, he just wont get into top15 anymore. He is well knows for UFC fans and UFC would keep using him to earn.

When I visited UFC.com today, I was reminded about new UFC NFT Packages. Anyone from here own UFC NFTs? I think UFC wanted to join that hype, but did not get real response from fans. UFC would have earned more if they had stickers albums (like Panini in 90s and 00 era).

[Welsh]

This weekend Cowboy is facing Joe Lauzon, who was on a pause for quite a long time. Do you think on Sunday, Donald Cerrone will take a lead on most wins list ? I think yes, it looks like Lauzon is not a very strong fighter compared with Cerrone, and UFC gave Cerrone an easy fight (to raise his spirit probably), because he is on a series of 6 looses.

I'm expecting a close fight, not sure on the outcome. I see it both going to decision, and a TKO. I don't think Cerrone will find the knockout though. I've found as he has got a little older, his chin has been rather suspect. Plus, his ability has clearly been waning over the years. So, despite Joe being out for a long time, he could get the job done here. It's Cerrone though, so we know there's going to be a fight on.

For me, the odds on a betting perspective are with Joe, who has the value for money. I don't think I consider Cerrone a big enough favourite, not to go against him here, even if the odds aren't massively wide.

Also, this event is going to be good. I've got Gaethje against Oliveira which might be surpriging to some. I just find that while Oliveira is exceptional when it comes to the ground game, he gets clipped way to often in previous fights, something you can't do against Gaethje.

[TheNineClub]

Donald Cerrone, Jim Miller and Andrei Arlovski now hold the record of most wins in UFC. Every fighter has 23 win in their record.

This weekend Cowboy is facing Joe Lauzon, who was on a pause for quite a long time. Do you think on Sunday, Donald Cerrone will take a lead on most wins list ? I think yes, it looks like Lauzon is not a very strong fighter compared with Cerrone, and UFC gave Cerrone an easy fight (to raise his spirit probably), because he is on a series of 6 looses.

Not really. J-Lau is far better at grappling than Donald, and if can get it to the ground, I would predict a tough and long night and a win for Lauzon. An easy fight would be if Cerrone was better at everything Lauzon does, and that's just not the case. So this is a classic battle of styles and the question is who can assert his style more efficiently. Also, Cerrone's last fight was a loss from Morono, and I am not gonna say Morono is a shlump by any means, but that also should have been an easier fight for Donald.

[TopTort777]

Also, this event is going to be good. I've got Gaethje against Oliveira which might be surpriging to some. I just find that while Oliveira is exceptional when it comes to the ground game, he gets clipped way to often in previous fights, something you can't do against Gaethje.

For me Oliveira is like Khabib, but with much worse defensive skills. Olivera over the time has improved his striking and defence, but still not enough. He has learned head moves to avoid jabs, but he is really bad when his opponent attacks on different levels. If his opponent does 3 strikes to the head and swings to make a fourth strike, then Oliveira practically would never defend his body. As a native BJJ fighter, he is very good on striking, but defence is his weak point. His really takes a lot of damage. With Gaethje, and his low kicks, that might not be good. However Poirier is counted to be a good striker, but he had lost to Oliveira.

[tokeweed]

UFC 274: Oliveira vs. Gaethje



Date: May 8, 2022
Main Card: SUN, MAY 8 / 5:00 AM EEST
Prelims: SUN, MAY 8 / 3:00 AM EEST
Early prelims: SUN, MAY 8 / 12:30 AM EEST

Venue: UFC Apex

Main card (ESPN+)
Lightweight: Charles Oliveira (c) vs. Justin Gaethje
Women's Strawweight: Rose Namajunas (c) vs. Carla Esparza
Lightweight: Michael Chandler vs. Tony Ferguson            
Light Heavyweight: Maurício Rua vs. Ovince Saint Preux            
Lightweight: Donald Cerrone vs. Joe Lauzon

Prelims            
Welterweight: Randy Brown vs. Khaos Williams            
Women's Featherweight: Macy Chiasson vs. Norma Dumont            
Flyweight: Brandon Royval vs. Matt Schnell            
Heavyweight: Blagoy Ivanov vs. Marcos Rogério de Lima   

Early prelims
Welterweight: Francisco Trinaldo vs. Danny Roberts            
Women's Flyweight: Tracy Cortez vs. Melissa Gatto            
Flyweight: Kleydson Rodrigues vs. C.J. Vergara            
Women's Strawweight: Ariane Carnelossi vs. Lupita Godinez            
Bantamweight: Journey Newson vs. Fernie Garcia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_274

Finally an event where every main card fight is worth watching!

Here's an updated roster from Tapology.

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/85253-ufc-274

The UFC found a match up for Andre Fialho as a featured bout in the prelim just after fighting a couple of weeks ago.  I wonder how trying to make the weight again would affect his performance.

Also, this event is going to be good. I've got Gaethje against Oliveira which might be surpriging to some. I just find that while Oliveira is exceptional when it comes to the ground game, he gets clipped way to often in previous fights, something you can't do against Gaethje.

For me Oliveira is like Khabib, but with much worse defensive skills. Olivera over the time has improved his striking and defence, but still not enough. He has learned head moves to avoid jabs, but he is really bad when his opponent attacks on different levels. If his opponent does 3 strikes to the head and swings to make a fourth strike, then Oliveira practically would never defend his body. As a native BJJ fighter, he is very good on striking, but defence is his weak point. His really takes a lot of damage. With Gaethje, and his low kicks, that might not be good. However Poirier is counted to be a good striker, but he had lost to Oliveira.

Not sure if you can call Oliveira is like Khabib, different styles but they both have elite submission skills.  I do agree that Oliveira has somewhat worse defensive skills.  And not only that, he's kinda chinny.  The pick is Oliveira to win but I wouldn't mind gambling a little something something for the Gaethje KO prop.

Edit:  Typos.

[Welsh]

Yeah, for me Khabib is a different fighter to Oliveira. For one, I consider Khabib to be more cautious, whereas Oliveira risks is too much for his type of style. He's a little more rushed, and more hectic, which usually means good viewing, but a bit more risk to him, and whoever has bet on him.

For me Oliveira is like Khabib, but with much worse defensive skills. Olivera over the time has improved his striking and defence, but still not enough. He has learned head moves to avoid jabs, but he is really bad when his opponent attacks on different levels. If his opponent does 3 strikes to the head and swings to make a fourth strike, then Oliveira practically would never defend his body. As a native BJJ fighter, he is very good on striking, but defence is his weak point. His really takes a lot of damage. With Gaethje, and his low kicks, that might not be good. However Poirier is counted to be a good striker, but he had lost to Oliveira.

I might be wrong, but I consider Gaethje a better, at least more impactful striker. While, Poirier is the more well rounded fighter. Although, having said that despite Poirier losing on the night, he very nearly finished that fight a few times, hence my comment about Oliveira being a little bit suspect in terms of defense.

I'll be going for Gaethje via finish @ 2.87. That's good enough odds for me to put a little cheeky bet on. To be honest, even the Oliveira decision line @ 6.50 is rather encouraging. I do see him either getting knocked out or putting the submission on Gaethje though. Gaethje is a tough guy though, which I do believe was a decent wrestler.

[TopTort777]

The parallel with Khabib was that he is not afraid of ground game and in fact, prefers that. He uses muay thai stance (his legs are close, he does not stand wide), he uses front leg as a jab (that is not Khabib) = he is not afraid to be taken down. Instead, he prefers to be taken down, as he could use his favourite guillotine. He is like Khabib, pushing forward with strikes, with a wish to turn the game to ground or get behind. Despite eating lots of punches with face

He's a little more rushed, and more hectic, which usually means good viewing

What about Oliveiras poor eyesight. Does interfere him much? What do you think?  Because Charles Oliveira admits his dreadful vision is 'only at 50 per cent' without glasses and jokes he sees THREE opponents during fights.

[tokeweed]

I just watched the Countdown show for 274.  Why do I think Trevor Whitman could get Gaethje to win vs Oliveira.  I mean with Oliveira close to being starched by Chandler then Poirier after that, I think Gaethje could get the job done.  That chin has to give in at some point.  And Chute Boxe is known for hard sparring and having their guys conucssed at times.

Anyway get hyped.  Watch Countdown and enjoy. 

UFC 274:  Countdown - Full Episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GCbxhAAz48

[notblox1]

Donald Cerrone, Jim Miller and Andrei Arlovski now hold the record of most wins in UFC. Every fighter has 23 win in their record.

They have many lost fights as well, and this will show up much more as they get older in their joints and brains.
I think that Khabib did a right thing when he quit on top, not that anyone was near of seriously hurting him like those guys.
Cowboy has interesting fights but guy won only one time in last nine fights, and I don't know how long Dana will keep him in UFC if he loses again this weekend.

[Welsh]

Glad to see I'm not the only crazy bastard thinking Justin could actually take this one. I'd definitely say he isn't the favourite, but I don't know I have a good feeling, and the odds are looking tasty.

What about Oliveiras poor eyesight. Does interfere him much? What do you think?  Because Charles Oliveira admits his dreadful vision is 'only at 50 per cent' without glasses and jokes he sees THREE opponents during fights.

Yeah, I'm not sure. To be honest, I don't think it has effected him much up until this point, but only he really knows that. I don't think his defensive ability is because of lack of seeing the punches, but rather the way he sets himself up, and of course the rushed, and hectic nature he tends to go into the takedowns with.

[YuginKadoya]

Andrei Arlovski VS Jake Collier - Split Decision - LOST
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I am disappointed with Arlovski performance. He should have made a much more quicker win, instead the fight went full distance. Average young heavyweight caused so much trouble to Arlovski. Now he is a series of 4 wins. He will get someone from top, which will be more younger and has more stamina. If Arlovski next opponent will be from top15, I will bet on his opponent. Glover Teixeira is almost same age, but looks more fresh in his fights.

This could also be set up by his coach and people on his team, what is the best plan they can take against Collier, I think he only made a decision to follow their plan, and sometimes age doesn't really matter in some situations, but it will always be seen on his performance if their age is catching up to them if they can really still able to fight to younger guys,

in  the end, three of the judge scored for Arlovski, it was a sensational win for Andrei Arlovski

Fight ended with split decision One of the judges even gave 27–30, which means according to him Collier won all three rounds

Oh sorry I think I made a mistake when saying that three judges have scored for Arlovski but it was a split decision, but again may have typed or read it wrong,

Glad to see I'm not the only crazy bastard thinking Justin could actually take this one. I'd definitely say he isn't the favourite, but I don't know I have a good feeling, and the odds are looking tasty.

I am sure glad this fight is on the weekend it is like I am waiting for a much-awaited event to come and all we have is just an appetizer, but this time we can have the main course, and Charles Oliveira VS Justin Gaethje is a fresh of breath air that I think many are anticipating and I really think Oliveira has the experience to cut off Gaethje, but Justin is not going to back down from this in my opinion,


Apart from the Oliveira VS Gaethje fight the Rose Namajunas VS Carla Esparza was another I like to see and Namajunas, in my opinion, has changed the way a woman has a fight I see more technicality to every win Namajunas have, and we can see if she isn't a fluke and if she can pull a win just like she did with the Zhang Weili fight.

[TopTort777]

What about Chandler vs Ferguson fight? A farewell fight for Tony? He has not won since 2019. 3 straight losses and his opponent is one of the toughest in division. On the other hand, Chandler is not in a better position. 2 losses in a row. People make fun buy saying that he has more kids than wins in UFC lol (he has adopted new kid two weeks ago).

I always find it strange, that Chandler has wrestling background, but prefers to exchange strikes. Tony is also a fan of using such tactics. If there will be a possibility to bet on Ferguson face to be a bloody mess, I would bet and win this bet this weekend.