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No chance this fight is going to distance in my opinion, it's going to be Chimaev win by submission.
Isnt Nate good at BJJ ? Wikipedia says he has a cool black belt in it. Also most of his wins were made by submission. And he was only one loss via submission in early stages of his career. I dont think that Chimaev is going to win by submission, but he will use his wrestling skills to turn this fight to the ground and win by ground and pound. I think it is going to be ref stoppage after a series of strikes on the ground or doctor stoppage. Submission is very likely because this is Chimaev. Odds will be more profitable by submission. Even if the fight will be bloody and slimey for Chimaev, he will bring this fight to the ground whenever he gets an opportunity and submit Nate to show his dominance. I don't think Nate can ever defend a TD. Its a helicopter dance. Nate Diaz does have good ground skills during his younger days. But at this current stage of his career, I am not taking out the possibility of Chimaev winning a submission. Chimaev has good ground skills too and is obviously stronger and has more stamina which will play an important role if the fight gets past round 3. I highly doubt though that Nate can survive more than 3 rounds. I don't think he can take a lot of punishment like Burns at his age and inactivity. More or less 50 significant strikes from Chimaev and Nate will be done.
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Isnt Nate good at BJJ ? Wikipedia says he has a cool black belt in it. Also most of his wins were made by submission. And he was only one loss via submission in early stages of his career. I dont think that Chimaev is going to win by submission, but he will use his wrestling skills to turn this fight to the ground and win by ground and pound. I think it is going to be ref stoppage after a series of strikes on the ground or doctor stoppage.
Agaisnt Khamzat Chimaev has a ground game aswell, I think he's not going to do it, even if he has a black belt on Brazilian Jui Jitsu, a ground game against Chimaev would likely be asking himself to commit suicide, I really think he is aware of it, and I think Nate Diaz really love to brawl in all occasion you may see him finishing his opponent on the ground but he is likely brawling so much on the start of the match, and likely be finishing with a submission, like his fight with Connor McGregor he surely wants to brawl first then gets his head bloodied, then he finishes McGregor with a submission, but likely McGregor doesn't really want to Brawl with Diaz on their 2nd match he keeps on evading for Diaz momentum to likely become off, Submission is very likely because this is Chimaev. Odds will be more profitable by submission.
Even if the fight will be bloody and slimey for Chimaev, he will bring this fight to the ground whenever he gets an opportunity and submit Nate to show his dominance. I don't think Nate can ever defend a TD. Its a helicopter dance.
Likely that could really happen Khamzat Chimaev got the strength it is not notable for his Physique you would think he is a skinny fighter but beyond observation, he likely got a compact muscle he has the strength, just like his fight with Li Jingliang where he is carrying and just picking him up while talking with Dana White, that is one intense fight and from that he surely got the hype he deserves, for Nate Diaz to take on Chimaev on the ground he would likely think twice even though he got a black belt on BBJ, in my opinion, a Black Belt is not really a rank it is always a beginning in getting your own style or a start in making you own through experience,
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September 07, 2022, 05:43:33 PM |
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Isnt Nate good at BJJ ? Wikipedia says he has a cool black belt in it. Also most of his wins were made by submission.
He is good but compared to Chimaev he is worse, older and much weaker. I am not saying he won't give his best performance in this moment, but it just not enough in top competition with fighter who aims for championship belt. Two nice warm-up videos to watch and prepare for this event, FULL EPISODE UFC 279 Countdown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpfC9-BAUwwUFC 279 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0eklceRmTo
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Lmaooo. And wasn't that the match up when he couldn't make weight by a mile and the UFC decided to have the fight at a catch weight of 190 or something then eventually deciding to have it at 205 because Costa might have had too much partying? That was hilarious. But Costa really looked good lately. I hope he gets matched up vs Whitaker with the winner getting a title shot. Anyway here's the Multi Master... UFC 279 - Multi Master Challengehttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5412533.0
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As much as I'd like to see it, I think Whittaker takes that pretty easily. I imagine he goes with the similar approach Izzy did. Obviously, Costa should've learned something from that fight so maybe he'll have an answer for it this time. Since, with Izzy he pretty much froze, and then received a beat down. Unfortunately, Izzy has made that into a joke now, which isn't very funny, but I imagine has Costa seething at the teeth.
Costa has the skills, and framework to become a real problem he just needs to throw some of that mass around, and go for the take downs more in my opinion. Anyway, I'm going to try, and get my predictions out early tomorrow.
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As much as I'd like to see it, I think Whittaker takes that pretty easily. I imagine he goes with the similar approach Izzy did. Obviously, Costa should've learned something from that fight so maybe he'll have an answer for it this time. Since, with Izzy he pretty much froze, and then received a beat down. Unfortunately, Izzy has made that into a joke now, which isn't very funny, but I imagine has Costa seething at the teeth.
Costa has the skills, and framework to become a real problem he just needs to throw some of that mass around, and go for the take downs more in my opinion. Anyway, I'm going to try, and get my predictions out early tomorrow.
Good matches worth betting on the main cards really. Something that will make you spend thinking about who could possibly win. Li Jingliang vs. Tony Ferguson - This is almost risk-free like Khamzat vs Nate. But who knows I will regret doubting Tony and Nate. Kevin Holland vs. Daniel Rodriguez Johnny Walker vs. Ion Cutelaba
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@bittraffic. I disagree. Li Jingliang might win, however, it will not be risk free. I speculate that El Cucuy might be very underestimated for this fight. He is given by the oddsmakers a 3.30 which might be very pessimistic of them hehehe. I think Uncle Dana has made the correct decision to let Tony Ferguson fight versus Li Jingliang because the Leech is not very good.
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He is good but compared to Chimaev he is worse, older and much weaker. I am not saying he won't give his best performance in this moment, but it just not enough in top competition with fighter who aims for championship belt. Two nice warm-up videos to watch and prepare for this event, FULL EPISODE UFC 279 Countdown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpfC9-BAUwwUFC 279 Embedded: Vlog Series - Episode 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0eklceRmToI Agree, even though he pretty much showed a remarkable performance against Conor McGregor, it is not really enough to make him on par against Khamzat Chimaev, if the impending fight and we saw that Nate Diaz would win against Chimaev I would surely be surprised but for sure that would be unexpected, then maybe fighting the title shot and getting the belt the only fighter that I think can be toe to toe with Khamzat Chimaev will be Shavkat Rakhmonov that level of skill, technique, and fight IQ I think Shavkat Rakhmonov will surely have a brawl against Chimaev, Lmaooo. And wasn't that the match up when he couldn't make weight by a mile and the UFC decided to have the fight at a catch weight of 190 or something then eventually deciding to have it at 205 because Costa might have had too much partying? That was hilarious. But Costa really looked good lately. I hope he gets matched up vs Whitaker with the winner getting a title shot. Anyway here's the Multi Master... UFC 279 - Multi Master Challengehttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5412533.0Same old attitude for Paulo Costa, and making fun of Khamzat Chimaev, thinking that he is in a high level of Division doesn't mean other lower division fighters would not snap and not take him on, that attitude of his will surely cost him, and if he never changes someday Dana White will eventually try to get him away on the UFC, I never imagine that he is now back on the middleweight division, I thought that Luke Rockhold was on the Light Heavyweight, and right now Costa is in the 6th rank of the Middleweight and maybe he wants to take on Adesanya again, but for sure he would need to take on a Marvin Vettori again, Jared Cannonier, or Robert Whittaker, As much as I'd like to see it, I think Whittaker takes that pretty easily. I imagine he goes with the similar approach Izzy did. Obviously, Costa should've learned something from that fight so maybe he'll have an answer for it this time. Since, with Izzy he pretty much froze, and then received a beat down. Unfortunately, Izzy has made that into a joke now, which isn't very funny, but I imagine has Costa seething at the teeth.
Costa has the skills, and framework to become a real problem he just needs to throw some of that mass around, and go for the take downs more in my opinion. Anyway, I'm going to try, and get my predictions out early tomorrow.
I highly doubt he would take that route, or even learn from every fight from that thick numb skull of his surely my first impression of Paulo Costa on the 1st time seeing him fighting Adesanya I have said that Israel Adesanya will have a hard time from him, but because Costa is not that technical, Adesanya has gone through him with ease, while Costa lacking a ground game doesn't have any option if his brawling technique failed, and that is all he have the Brawling technique,
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September 08, 2022, 08:46:22 AM |
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I highly doubt he would take that route, or even learn from every fight from that thick numb skull of his surely my first impression of Paulo Costa on the 1st time seeing him fighting Adesanya I have said that Israel Adesanya will have a hard time from him, but because Costa is not that technical, Adesanya has gone through him with ease, while Costa lacking a ground game doesn't have any option if his brawling technique failed, and that is all he have the Brawling technique,
Yeah, I was so nervous for Izzy on that fight. I thought Costa was going to pressure him, and basically stick to him like glue. Obviously, that's not what happened. It was a weird fight, it was almost like Costa didn't have a way of entry, and then just sat at range, which is not something you do with Izzy. Alex might be able to, and to an extent Whittaker, but no one else in the division wants to be a sitting duck in front of Izzy. I do think Costa needs to mature a little, if he matures, and actually learns from his mistakes he could be a real problem in the division for basically anyone. Him, and Vettori is a good match up due to both being pressure fighters.
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I do think Costa needs to mature a little, if he matures, and actually learns from his mistakes he could be a real problem in the division for basically anyone. Him, and Vettori is a good match up due to both being pressure fighters.
Costa should stay away from secret juice for a while ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It is too late for him to grow up and learn from mistakes. He is 31. 2 more years and his career will start to go down. 2 years that is 3-4 fights. Who will he face next? Whittaker ? He will lose in that fight. Pereira ? He would be done in first round. His next opponent could be Jared Cannonier. That will be a good match up imho. But after that, he will either fail at title fight or will be eliminated from title race at all. Then his future is Strickland, Till, Gastelum - easy fight, but fights without future. It is 2016, but Nates game plan for Chimaev wont be different - going there, fuuuuf-fuuuuf, throw some good shit, dont get hit and come home with packet full of cash.
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My lottery ticket for the event...
Aldana - Dawodu at 2.23 Add: Chim - Almeida - Alateng at 4.35 Add: Holland - Collier - Dumont at 9.90 Add: Li - Pickett - Martinez at 37.90 Add: Walker - Lainesse at 206.89
I kinda feel iffy putting Alateng at the second tier but who could I replace him with? Holland is against a decent striker in Daniel Rodriguez and Barnett could get lucky with his spinning stuff and KO collier. But yeah, sometimes it's better not to over think and just go with it. It's not like I'm betting a huge amount of money. Lol.
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Yeah, I was so nervous for Izzy on that fight. I thought Costa was going to pressure him, and basically stick to him like glue. Obviously, that's not what happened. It was a weird fight, it was almost like Costa didn't have a way of entry, and then just sat at range, which is not something you do with Izzy. Alex might be able to, and to an extent Whittaker, but no one else in the division wants to be a sitting duck in front of Izzy.
I do think Costa needs to mature a little, if he matures, and actually learns from his mistakes he could be a real problem in the division for basically anyone. Him, and Vettori is a good match up due to both being pressure fighters.
Actually, I thought that Israel Adesanya would have a hard time or rather lose to Adesanya but it was proven wrong, that much body mass Costa was not really put to good use, and because he is not very technical and I think he is not a learning fighter aswell, his brawling escapades still continues, for me, if he would fight Robert Whittaker I would bet for Whittaker for sure because technically in all aspect Whittaker has more excellent striking than Costa, and if this continues don't ever dream of becoming a champion, Well, Costa is a Numb Skull, there is nothing entering his head but just brawling to win, and that Altercation between him and Khamzat Chimaev that is Costa being Costa, he thinks he can fucked everyone in the UFC, Costa should stay away from secret juice for a while ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It is too late for him to grow up and learn from mistakes. He is 31. 2 more years and his career will start to go down. 2 years that is 3-4 fights. Who will he face next? Whittaker ? He will lose in that fight. Pereira ? He would be done in first round. His next opponent could be Jared Cannonier. That will be a good match up imho. But after that, he will either fail at title fight or will be eliminated from title race at all. Then his future is Strickland, Till, Gastelum - easy fight, but fights without future. It is 2016, but Nates game plan for Chimaev wont be different - going there, fuuuuf-fuuuuf, throw some good shit, dont get hit and come home with packet full of cash. Jared Cannonier would fucked up Costa, for me all 4th rank guys in the Middleweight can surely beat Costa up but for the 4th rank below I think can be a money fight for him but for expecting to be on the top and become Champion now I know that Paulo Costa is not champion material he would never be, my advise for him because he can never be on top is to just aim for money fights, that could rack up some money I surely doubt Nate Diaz might have a secret plan for this, he might be stirring some false plan just for Chimaev to get off his guard or underestimated Nate for a while but maybe Nate is straight forward in saying it, who knows, but looking forward for this fight,
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I do think Costa needs to mature a little, if he matures, and actually learns from his mistakes he could be a real problem in the division for basically anyone. Him, and Vettori is a good match up due to both being pressure fighters.
Costa should stay away from secret juice for a while ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It is too late for him to grow up and learn from mistakes. He is 31. 2 more years and his career will start to go down. 2 years that is 3-4 fights. Who will he face next? Whittaker ? He will lose in that fight. Pereira ? He would be done in first round. His next opponent could be Jared Cannonier. That will be a good match up imho. But after that, he will either fail at title fight or will be eliminated from title race at all. Then his future is Strickland, Till, Gastelum - easy fight, but fights without future. It is 2016, but Nates game plan for Chimaev wont be different - going there, fuuuuf-fuuuuf, throw some good shit, dont get hit and come home with packet full of cash. ^ Paulo Costa is someone who talks a big game but is not able to back it up with actions. There was a lot of talk before the fight with Israel Adesanya and he also talked a lot during the fight, but he probably only tagged Israel Adesanya two or three times in the fight. We all know how embarrassing that fight between Paul Acosta and Israel Adesanya was for him. I think it is obvious that he is getting a lot older at the moment. As far as his career is concerned, he does not have a lot of time left. It's time for him to think about how he is going to retire and how he is going to do it. In my opinion, I do not see his performance improving from this point onwards. There is no doubt that Khamzat is one of the best players in the world right now, and he is on top of the game. In addition to that, he is in peak physical condition. In order to overtake his unbeatable record, it is going to be very difficult.
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This are my picks so far but I could change something last minute after I listen to press conference and see face-offs. Khamzat Chimaev to win by submission. Li Jingliang win by decision; fight going to distance. Kevin Holland win Johnny Walker win Don't forget to make your predictions for UFC 279 Multi Master Challenge and receive free bets from Sportsbet: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5412533.0
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I haven't put out my predictions yet since I'm still undecided on a few of the fights. I'll probably put out a prediction, as well as who I'm actually going to put on my bet slip as they'll likely differ for this event. This are my picks so far but I could change something last minute after I listen to press conference and see face-offs. Khamzat Chimaev to win by submission. Li Jingliang win by decision; fight going to distance. Kevin Holland win Johnny Walker win Don't forget to make your predictions for UFC 279 Multi Master Challenge and receive free bets from Sportsbet: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5412533.0Not sure about the Holland fight, depends. However, I'm liking the Holland pick. Still undecided on the Li Jingliang fight, and I think Khamzat tries to smash the living crap out of Diaz, and therefore it'll either be a knockout, or a decision in my opinion. Obviously, Diaz has a great chin so it could be interesting to see how that goes down.
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Shitshow canceled the face off of the fighters lol It was said that it was because of Tiki standing behind Khamzat. Tiki Ghosn is said to be the manager of some fighters in the team of Nate and they were calling Tiki to be a traitor. Dana was booed by the audience at the conference lol here are some details https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiElLoyz0bYIf it weren't stopped, there could be a riot.
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@bittraffic. There might be a misunderstanding between Tiki and the team of Nate Diaz. According to other stories, it was Khamzat and Kevin Holland who were fighting. Tiki was there and stopped them. After everything was settled, Tiki was standing with Khamzat when Nate Diaz and his team arrived. They began throwing water bottles on Tiki and kicking him hehehehe. An altercation between Khamzat Chimaev and Kevin Holland sparked a backstage melee that ultimately led to the UFC 279 pre-fight press conference being cancelled on Thursday.
That’s according to UFC President Dana White, who confirmed the initial incident between Chimaev and Holland started the problems that only escalated after he went on stage to start the press conference at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.
Multiple sources also confirmed that once Holland went on stage to start the press conference along with his opponent Daniel Rodriguez that a second altercation exploded that involved Chimaev, Diaz and their respective teams.
It’s not clear if any additional fighting broke out, but water bottles were thrown between Chimaev and Diaz’s camps, according to sources, which was at least part of the reason why White ultimately decided to cancel the press conference before things got more out of hand.Source https://www.mmafighting.com/2022/9/8/23343831/khamzat-chimaev-nate-diaz-kevin-holland-involved-altercations-ufc-279-press-conference-cancellation
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Are these pre-fight press conference and weigh-ins free or people buy tickets for that ? This morning I've seen a video on Instagram of Tony Ferguson entering press conference, and saw that there were about 50 people there, fans and reporters, and the major part of conference room was empty. I've seen such events usually are crowded. And the UFC 279 has cool card. I was amazed of empty conference. Turns out there was a situation between fighters. Here is a good video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aey4gJY4fJs. Dana seems lost. Never seen him like this. As he was totally not ready for such situation and dont know what to do.
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I'll definitely be watching any clips of went down...I haven't been as interested in drama since early Ultimate Fighter days ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) . Are these pre-fight press conference and weigh-ins free or people buy tickets for that ? This morning I've seen a video on Instagram of Tony Ferguson entering press conference, and saw that there were about 50 people there, fans and reporters, and the major part of conference room was empty. I've seen such events usually are crowded. And the UFC 279 has cool card. I was amazed of empty conference. Turns out there was a situation between fighters. Here is a good video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aey4gJY4fJs. Dana seems lost. Never seen him like this. As he was totally not ready for such situation and dont know what to do. Free for journalists, but I'm actually not sure about the general public. I feel like Dana would want to make as much money as possible, but I've never seen weigh in tickets for sale. It might be included with your ticket? I'm not entirely sure. I've yet to be to a UFC event, which I'm hoping to change either next year or the year after.
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Free for journalists, but I'm actually not sure about the general public. I feel like Dana would want to make as much money as possible, but I've never seen weigh in tickets for sale. It might be included with your ticket? I'm not entirely sure. I've yet to be to a UFC event, which I'm hoping to change either next year or the year after.
You can check ticket sales on the official website https://www.ufc.com/tickets, only available for fight tickets for the regular class and VIP experience. I don't know if tickets for the UFC conference are also on sale elsewhere or only available to journalists, but I've seen in previous press conferences that a lot of spectators fill the seats. So unfortunately the UFC conference was canceled due to conditions not allowing it to proceed due to the incident happening backstage, despite the difficult situation but I appreciate it if Dana White finally canceled it even though she revealed the incident first occurred at a press conference, but will it be rescheduled because the fight period is only 3 days from now?
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