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January 15, 2022, 12:07:03 PM
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This series was a big blow to India's stake for sure. In first test they played like they have no competition and in rest of two they played as if they can't give competition. I think team India has faced such bad phases for a lot of times now already, suddenly all the best players go out of form and then BCCI brings in some new players from the bench who play really well but then the older folks come back in form to fill the slots, a few are able to get back their slots while rest are dropped. 
Too much experimentation might be the reason, in the first match, KL Rahul played a wonderful innings and that is the reason India was able to score a good total and win the match, in the next two matches there were individual performances but the batting failed as a unit and the bowlers cannot win matches from impossible situations  Cheesy.

Ravichandran Ashwin did not bowl that much in the entire series because the pitch was not spinner friendly either, since the batting was struggling they should have added another batsman who could bowl a few overs of spin.

I think you have a valid point. A year back, India were untouchable in tests and they were winning every game as they had a solid and fixed lineup. But now they are experimenting too much and rotating players a lot which makes them inconsistent. Kohli's off-form is also a factor. He used to get a big percentage of the whole runs India made but since he is not consistent right now, as a result, team India is also suffering.

This means that all those wins were because of the one man show, Kohli, who was in supreme form. Now that the India team is experimenting and find the right combination, it is hurting them. No team can remain on top forever as different phases come on every team. I hope the Indian team will soon settle down to the right combinations and we will see another strong Team India.
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England seems to be sliding towards another defeat in the 5th and final test at Hobart. They conceded a lead of 115 in the first innings, as their batsmen failed to put up a total in excess of 200. Anyway, David Warner got out for a duck in the second innings, nabbed by Stuart Broad. And just now, Marnus Labuschagne got out with Chris Woakes getting the wicket. But with such a massive lead, Australia may not be much bothered. They just need to set up a target of 240-250, and for that another 120 runs are more than enough.

In start of 2022 we saw some upsets where BAN beating NZ and SA completely destroying India but England wasn't able to break there losing string. On stumps of day 2, 23 wickets have fallen and Australia have lead of 150 runs with 7 wickets in hand. If Australia can give target of around 300 to England then surely final result will be 4-1.
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Holy shit

I didn't see that coming, don't know who is going to lead the team now? Rahane already stripped from his vice captaincy, his place is not secure anyway. Rohit is not young guy anymore and KL Rahul doesn't look captain material to me. Interesting time is coming indeed, let's see how this new transition period goes.

Under his 7 years tenure, India become number 1 test team and stayed there for like 5-ish years. Without any doubt best Indian test captain, who changed the Indian test culture single handedly . Well done skipper, you led the team very well. Changes are part of the life but i'm going to miss him as test captain.

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January 15, 2022, 02:02:24 PM
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Under his 7 years tenure, India become number 1 test team and stayed there for like 5-ish years. Without any doubt best Indian test captain, who changed the Indian test culture single handedly . Well done skipper, you led the team very well. Changes are part of the life but i'm going to miss him as test captain.
Am not really surprised to hear about this news. After resigning as captain from the T-20 and ODI formats, it was only a matter of time until he resigned from the test format too. Recent DRS controversy added fuel to the fire.

Kohli was easily the best Indian test captain so far and a decent ODI+T-20 captain. Will miss him as test captain and I wish he resigned in a better manner from all formats.

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January 15, 2022, 03:49:31 PM
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Under his 7 years tenure, India become number 1 test team and stayed there for like 5-ish years. Without any doubt best Indian test captain, who changed the Indian test culture single handedly . Well done skipper, you led the team very well. Changes are part of the life but i'm going to miss him as test captain.
Am not really surprised to hear about this news. After resigning as captain from the T-20 and ODI formats, it was only a matter of time until he resigned from the test format too. Recent DRS controversy added fuel to the fire.

Kohli was easily the best Indian test captain so far and a decent ODI+T-20 captain. Will miss him as test captain and I wish he resigned in a better manner from all formats.

He is by far India's greatest test captain. It's sad to hear of his retirement but it's a fact of life. Team India's transformation into a force to be reckoned with on the road in these 7 years will be remembered. Not every captains cannot always emulate Kohli's unbridled energy and aggressive intent. In so many ways, he has been outstanding. Such an atmosphere does not suit his style of resigning.

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January 15, 2022, 04:41:15 PM
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Holy shit

I didn't see that coming, don't know who is going to lead the team now? Rahane already stripped from his vice captaincy, his place is not secure anyway. Rohit is not young guy anymore and KL Rahul doesn't look captain material to me. Interesting time is coming indeed, let's see how this new transition period goes.

Under his 7 years tenure, India become number 1 test team and stayed there for like 5-ish years. Without any doubt best Indian test captain, who changed the Indian test culture single handedly . Well done skipper, you led the team very well. Changes are part of the life but i'm going to miss him as test captain.

https://twitter.com/imVkohli/status/1482340422987169794
I liked aas Jaffer's comment on his retirement, when his captaincy started wining series is foreign pitches was considered as an extraordinary thing and today is the time when if India loses a series at foreign pitch it's considered as a big setback and extraordinary thing. I don't know why critics always bash Kohli for India's losses and honestly I have never seen these people applauding him for the wins. If you go by the statistics he was even better than Dhoni in his captaincy.
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January 15, 2022, 05:20:18 PM
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England seems to be sliding towards another defeat in the 5th and final test at Hobart. They conceded a lead of 115 in the first innings, as their batsmen failed to put up a total in excess of 200. Anyway, David Warner got out for a duck in the second innings, nabbed by Stuart Broad. And just now, Marnus Labuschagne got out with Chris Woakes getting the wicket. But with such a massive lead, Australia may not be much bothered. They just need to set up a target of 240-250, and for that another 120 runs are more than enough.
In start of 2022 we saw some upsets where BAN beating NZ and SA completely destroying India but England wasn't able to break there losing string. On stumps of day 2, 23 wickets have fallen and Australia have lead of 150 runs with 7 wickets in hand. If Australia can give target of around 300 to England then surely final result will be 4-1.
England are surely needed some magic to change things in their favour because with current situation and form I still believe they are worst team in test cricket because no batsman is capable of staying at crease for some time, and it's very poor from them now in last few innings Root is also not giving 100% because facing some good pressure of defeats and poor batting from all other batting line-up.

In this last test match now Australia leading by 152 if they were able to score 100 more runs than surely these are enough for result of 4 - 0 for this series because English batting line-up is completely down in moral, and they cannot handle pressure of target chase. Australian bowling is also in good shape, with two new young guns doing some good work for supporting Starc and Cummins in the absence of Hazlewood.
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I liked aas Jaffer's comment on his retirement, when his captaincy started wining series is foreign pitches was considered as an extraordinary thing and today is the time when if India loses a series at foreign pitch it's considered as a big setback and extraordinary thing. I don't know why critics always bash Kohli for India's losses and honestly I have never seen these people applauding him for the wins. If you go by the statistics he was even better than Dhoni in his captaincy.

I think its sequel of his removal from ODI and T20 captaincy. Kohli realized that BCCI will remove him from Test captaincy also, so he stepped down himself before he is removed by BCCI. As a batsman he can now perform well since he has no more pressure of captaincy. Its not justified to compare kohli with dohni, as later has a class not only as a player but as a human being.
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January 15, 2022, 06:52:38 PM
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In start of 2022 we saw some upsets where BAN beating NZ and SA completely destroying India but England wasn't able to break there losing string. On stumps of day 2, 23 wickets have fallen and Australia have lead of 150 runs with 7 wickets in hand. If Australia can give target of around 300 to England then surely final result will be 4-1.
You are making little mistake here. The result of this series will be 4-0 if Australia win the 5th test match. Because, England hasn't won any match in this series yet. They were lucky to make the draw in the 4th test match. England players has shown poor performance in this full series. Betting odds is fully in favour of Australia now. Probably they will win the match.

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January 15, 2022, 10:54:33 PM
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Holy shit

I didn't see that coming, don't know who is going to lead the team now? Rahane already stripped from his vice captaincy, his place is not secure anyway. Rohit is not young guy anymore and KL Rahul doesn't look captain material to me. Interesting time is coming indeed, let's see how this new transition period goes.
I was also not expecting this from Virat Kohli. I am sure he is upset with the situation surrounding his removal from captaincy from T20 and hence he might have taken this decision. I believe there is social media attack against him after his support of Mohammed Shami during the recently concluded world cup and he might have had enough with the targeted attacks.

Under his 7 years tenure, India become number 1 test team and stayed there for like 5-ish years. Without any doubt best Indian test captain, who changed the Indian test culture single handedly . Well done skipper, you led the team very well. Changes are part of the life but i'm going to miss him as test captain.
No doubt, under Virat Kohli, India had the best bowlers and i do not remember any team where India used to dominate in Test cricket while touring in my near four decades of watching Cricket and i credit that to the bowlers and the fighting spirit Virat Kohli implemented even in hostile situations.
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January 15, 2022, 11:48:07 PM
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In start of 2022 we saw some upsets where BAN beating NZ and SA completely destroying India but England wasn't able to break there losing string. On stumps of day 2, 23 wickets have fallen and Australia have lead of 150 runs with 7 wickets in hand. If Australia can give target of around 300 to England then surely final result will be 4-1.
You are making little mistake here. The result of this series will be 4-0 if Australia win the 5th test match. Because, England hasn't won any match in this series yet. They were lucky to make the draw in the 4th test match. England players has shown poor performance in this full series. Betting odds is fully in favour of Australia now. Probably they will win the match.
That draw is still questionable otherwise it would have been 5-0. England's team performance in this series has been pathetic. They have been struggling a lot in batting. The whole team is dependent on the performance of two players. If those two are unable to perform the team will lose. Australia is already leading by 152 runs and I think they will try to reach a target of 300. Anything above 200 is bad for the English side.

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January 16, 2022, 12:23:23 AM
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Kohli was easily the best Indian test captain so far and a decent ODI+T-20 captain. Will miss him as test captain and I wish he resigned in a better manner from all formats.
I won't miss his captaincy in T-20 and ODI, actually i'm quite relieved as far as limited overs captaincy goes.

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Only because of some nutjob trolls? By this means Jadeja/Raina should have taken some decisions too. they were attacked in similar fashion as Shami (if no one remember then you guys must be following only one type of news). I humbly suggest that avoid these type of BS in social media.

4 decades!! holy cow bhai. I thought you were in 30s or something.  Grin

Anyway 7 years sounds more than enough timeline for any captain but sudden resign might unsettle team for short period of time because we don't have any replacement for Kohli as captain in tests.

- Rohit - Captain material but 33 year old
- Rahane - He's great leader but his career is not safe anymore.
- KL Rahul - He seems first choice atm but Idk why, i didn't like his captaincy style so far (IPL and 2nd test).
- Shreyas could be great captain but he's only 1 test old in red ball so he's out of the contest as well. Same with Gill, Prithvi. They all are captain material but way too young,new or need to cement their position first.
- Bumrah - Idk if BCCI will follow CSA step (Choosing leading bowler as their captain)
- Pant - He could be a good choice for long run. he's young, leading his franchise nicely and i think he proved his worth in Test team on countless occasion.

I liked aas Jaffer's comment on his retirement, when his captaincy started wining series is foreign pitches was considered as an extraordinary thing and today is the time when if India loses a series at foreign pitch it's considered as a big setback and extraordinary thing. I don't know why critics always bash Kohli for India's losses and honestly I have never seen these people applauding him for the wins. If you go by the statistics he was even better than Dhoni in his captaincy.
Lol i remember those dark times. If we go by wins percentage in test cricket history then he's only behind Steve Waugh (71%), Ricky Ponting (62%). His winning percentage is 58%. * Min 50 test match captaincy

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January 16, 2022, 01:53:12 AM
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In start of 2022 we saw some upsets where BAN beating NZ and SA completely destroying India but England wasn't able to break there losing string. On stumps of day 2, 23 wickets have fallen and Australia have lead of 150 runs with 7 wickets in hand. If Australia can give target of around 300 to England then surely final result will be 4-1.
You are making little mistake here. The result of this series will be 4-0 if Australia win the 5th test match. Because, England hasn't won any match in this series yet. They were lucky to make the draw in the 4th test match. England players has shown poor performance in this full series. Betting odds is fully in favour of Australia now. Probably they will win the match.
The final test match is in the hands of Australia. The series result seems like 4-0. The fourth test was really good to watch and myself expected better recovery in the final match. Now once again they're out of form ending the first innings just for 188 runs. Three more days left, and if England continue this way upcoming series with West Indies will have similar results.
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January 16, 2022, 02:12:20 AM
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Boland's numbers are ridiculous.. 8.6 jeezz

He has played just two tests and the Hobart match is his third. So far picked up 14 wickets, at an average of 8.64. It is difficult to imagine anyone having a better debut than him. Unfortunately, he made his international debut a bit late. He is soon to be 33 and has only 3-4 years of quality cricket left in him. But the real test will come when he bowls against quality opposition in the flat tracks of India and the turning surfaces of Sri Lanka. The real quality of a pace bowler will be measured once he is pulled outside his comfort zone.

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January 16, 2022, 05:04:23 AM
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The final test match is in the hands of Australia. The series result seems like 4-0. The fourth test was really good to watch and myself expected better recovery in the final match. Now once again they're out of form ending the first innings just for 188 runs.
But, I am thinking like England may get a chance to win this final test match as Australia is right now struggling by losing 6 wickets for just 96 runs. Still Australia is leading by 200+ runs and that way I guess you are right as England may need to chase at least 250+ runs which might be an impossible task for them.

Pant - He could be a good choice for long run. he's young, leading his franchise nicely and i think he proved his worth in Test team on countless occasion.
I agree that Rishab Pant could be the right choice for being new India Skipper and in long term perspective as well. Not sure about the who would be the choice for BCCI.

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January 16, 2022, 06:33:11 AM
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Australia vs England

Is England going to win the last Test match in the end after 3 consecutive defeats and one draw? What do you think?
Australia scored 303 runs in the first innings. But Australia lost 8 wickets for only 141 runs in the second innings. I think they will finish their innings in 10 overs in advance. However, Australia is already ahead by 256 runs. England will not be able to win if Australia gives more than 280 targets. They do have not that ability right now. However, if England can stop Australia by 260, then England can fight to win.

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January 16, 2022, 07:22:22 AM
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Is England going to win the last Test match in the end after 3 consecutive defeats and one draw? What do you think?
I am not seeing any possibilities for that. England just started their second innings and they need to chase down 271 runs to win this final test match but by considering their their overall performance in this Ashes series, I doubt they could score even 150 runs on the day3 and day4 pitch conditions.

Australia is right now struggling by losing 6 wickets for just 96 runs. Still Australia is leading by 200+ runs and that way I guess you are right as England may need to chase at least 250+ runs
Yeah, Australia struggled in their second innings but managed to take a considerable lead which still definitely an impossible task for England as of now. Hobart pitch was known for its batting friendliness but for this Ashes test match, I guess curator decided to surprise all of us. Australia is all set for 4-0 sweep, it seems.
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January 16, 2022, 07:49:29 AM
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Australia vs England

Is England going to win the last Test match in the end after 3 consecutive defeats and one draw? What do you think?
Australia scored 303 runs in the first innings. But Australia lost 8 wickets for only 141 runs in the second innings. I think they will finish their innings in 10 overs in advance. However, Australia is already ahead by 256 runs. England will not be able to win if Australia gives more than 280 targets. They do have not that ability right now. However, if England can stop Australia by 260, then England can fight to win.
Finally Australia have set a target of 271 runs. If England have scored something around 250 runs in the first innings now this could've been an easy chance to win. During the first session Australia had the highest winning probability. By the second session this has turned towards England. If England is able to create strong early partnership, then it'll increase the chance of winning.
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January 16, 2022, 07:50:16 AM
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Only because of some nutjob trolls? By this means Jadeja/Raina should have taken some decisions too. they were attacked in similar fashion as Shami (if no one remember then you guys must be following only one type of news). I humbly suggest that avoid these type of BS in social media.

4 decades!! holy cow bhai. I thought you were in 30s or something.  Grin

Anyway 7 years sounds more than enough timeline for any captain but sudden resign might unsettle team for short period of time because we don't have any replacement for Kohli as captain in tests.

- Rohit - Captain material but 33 year old
- Rahane - He's great leader but his career is not safe anymore.
- KL Rahul - He seems first choice atm but Idk why, i didn't like his captaincy style so far (IPL and 2nd test).
- Shreyas could be great captain but he's only 1 test old in red ball so he's out of the contest as well. Same with Gill, Prithvi. They all are captain material but way too young,new or need to cement their position first.
- Bumrah - Idk if BCCI will follow CSA step (Choosing leading bowler as their captain)
- Pant - He could be a good choice for long run. he's young, leading his franchise nicely and i think he proved his worth in Test team on countless occasion.

To be very honest, the only sane option in my mind is between Rohit and Rahul, all others would be more of a temporary captain who might lead the side for a year but eventually you have to make someone else the captain, Pant I don't feel is responsible enough so far to be made captain, you want some more consistent performances from him and also some settled decisions in batting. Rahane would have been a very obvious choice before this SA series but now he obviously isn't in the options as board might consider dropping him from the squad as well.
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January 16, 2022, 08:16:45 AM
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Australia vs England

Is England going to win the last Test match in the end after 3 consecutive defeats and one draw? What do you think?
Australia scored 303 runs in the first innings. But Australia lost 8 wickets for only 141 runs in the second innings. I think they will finish their innings in 10 overs in advance. However, Australia is already ahead by 256 runs. England will not be able to win if Australia gives more than 280 targets. They do have not that ability right now. However, if England can stop Australia by 260, then England can fight to win.
Finally Australia have set a target of 271 runs. If England have scored something around 250 runs in the first innings now this could've been an easy chance to win. During the first session Australia had the highest winning probability. By the second session this has turned towards England. If England is able to create strong early partnership, then it'll increase the chance of winning.
Partnership is the main problem with the English batting side. They have failed to do so in multiple occasions in this series. Although the start looks good they have already scored 50 without losing a single wicket. If the opening pair are able to form a partnership of 150 runs then they have a good chance of winning this match. Malan and Root can come in handy if the pressure is not on them.

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