Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[pakhitheboss]

After losing two wickets for just 12 runs yesterday, now England's collection is 92 runs. England have not lost any wickets. As long as Root and Malan are at the crease, I will have confidence in England. If the pair break up before 150 runs, then England will not be able to collect 400 runs. Today is the third day. Most likely this match is more likely to be a draw.

This session clearly belongs to England.

Both Root and Malan need to bat 1.5 more session to pull their team out of this mess. Wicket is not doing much atm so they are good to go for now at least but if by any chance Australia gets a breakthrough, their tail would be up and Aussie bowlers will lick their chops with shaky english middle order.

Still trailing by 309 runs. Both Root and Malan are out and this match is slowly slipping away from the English side. Not much batting left in the side now considering the previous performance of the English batters. As soon as you start feeling that the English side is back in the game the Australian bowlers will reverse that feel.

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[og kush420]

Still trailing by 309 runs. Both Root and Malan are out and this match is slowly slipping away from the English side. Not much batting left in the side now considering the previous performance of the English batters. As soon as you start feeling that the English side is back in the game the Australian bowlers will reverse that feel.

England will surely going to face defeat in second test as well. There batting n bowling line up totally collapsed in this Ashes so far. Malan n Root are the only one who scored some runs, when you are chasing 473 then top order needs to perform. Nothing going in England favour.

[Haunebu]

Looks like Malan and Root are the only decent batsmen in the England team currently since the rest continue performing like crap. Stokes isn't able to convert good starts into big scores. Starc and Lyon bowled really well in this innings.

Boring Ashes tournament so far. Australia are systematically decimating England in every match and it looks like they might whitewash them at this rate.

[og kush420]

Looks like Malan and Root are the only decent batsmen in the England team currently since the rest continue performing like crap. Stokes isn't able to convert good starts into big scores. Starc and Lyon bowled really well in this innings.

Boring Ashes tournament so far. Australia are systematically decimating England in every match and it looks like they might whitewash them at this rate.

Whitewash is very much expected if England continues to play like that. Australia once again proved that they are too strong at home. England are too much dependent on ben stokes and this happens when your key player fails. Aus.are 277 runs ahead and still 10 wickets in hand.

[Sithara007]

Looks like Malan and Root are the only decent batsmen in the England team currently since the rest continue performing like crap. Stokes isn't able to convert good starts into big scores. Starc and Lyon bowled really well in this innings.

Boring Ashes tournament so far. Australia are systematically decimating England in every match and it looks like they might whitewash them at this rate.

Australia leading by close to 300 runs at this point, with 10 wickets to spare. It is going to be 2-0. I agree that this series have been boring so far. Two days remain and it looks almost certain that England is going to lose by a big margin. As usual, England is overdependent on Joe Root. This time Malan gave him some support, but the other batsmen looked out of sorts. Rory Burns is almost becoming meme material nowadays, after repeated failures. Ollie Pope and
Jos Buttler are not doing any better either.

[LittleBitFunny]

England finished their first innings with 236 runs. After Malan and Root's partnership broke, no other player was able to form a pair. With such a performance, at least it is not possible to win against a team like Australia. England will lose this match as usual. Australia is now leading by 277 runs. Today is the third day of the game.Australia will play a maximum of two sessions tomorrow.

[Swordsoffreedom]

After losing two wickets for just 12 runs yesterday, now England's collection is 92 runs. England have not lost any wickets. As long as Root and Malan are at the crease, I will have confidence in England. If the pair break up before 150 runs, then England will not be able to collect 400 runs. Today is the third day. Most likely this match is more likely to be a draw.

This session clearly belongs to England.
Both Root and Malan need to bat 1.5 more session to pull their team out of this mess. Wicket is not doing much atm so they are good to go for now at least but if by any chance Australia gets a breakthrough, their tail would be up and Aussie bowlers will lick their chops with shaky english middle order.

Still trailing by 309 runs. Both Root and Malan are out and this match is slowly slipping away from the English side. Not much batting left in the side now considering the previous performance of the English batters. As soon as you start feeling that the English side is back in the game the Australian bowlers will reverse that feel.

England's players are not back in the form. They maintain their weak performance as usual. I did not understand why suddenly the England team's degeneration. All players lost the form together. There is no regular performance in the team without root. However, if Australia gives more than 420 targets, they will also win the second Test match. The match is in the control of Australia.

[JSRAW]

Boring Ashes tournament so far.

Looking at the English performance its feels like over rated series IMO. Its only surviving because its a oldest cricket rivalry. Mediocre show from one side and they call it "The pinnacle of test cricket", more like a shithousery of test cricket. Feel bad for English fans tho. I used to feel exactly same about our team back in 2011-2013.

Joe Root : "Ashes will define my captaincy" 

[romero121]

England finished their first innings with 236 runs. After Malan and Root's partnership broke, no other player was able to form a pair. With such a performance, at least it is not possible to win against a team like Australia. England will lose this match as usual. Australia is now leading by 277 runs. Today is the third day of the game.Australia will play a maximum of two sessions tomorrow.

Yes, England is struggling throughout the series. Yeah, there is lack of back support from players. Few players doing the best while the back team misses it. If every player give an average performance the score could've been above 300. This time Australia confirms its win very earlier, because of two more days left for the match and it already leads by 282 runs.

Hope England will perform better in the upcoming match. It seems the right time to progress, because three more matches which can serve as a fight back for England.

[Theones]

Australia leading by close to 300 runs at this point, with 10 wickets to spare. It is going to be 2-0. I agree that this series have been boring so far. Two days remain and it looks almost certain that England is going to lose by a big margin. As usual, England is overdependent on Joe Root. This time Malan gave him some support, but the other batsmen looked out of sorts. Rory Burns is almost becoming meme material nowadays, after repeated failures. Ollie Pope and
Jos Buttler are not doing any better either.

England too much over confidence on the strength of there team lead to such drastic performance in first two tests. On the other hand Australia didn't showed any sign of degradation in performance despite the fact there skipper had to resign just before the Ashes. Australia are truly professional, as there team never depends on few players.

[LittleBitFunny]

England finished their first innings with 236 runs. After Malan and Root's partnership broke, no other player was able to form a pair. With such a performance, at least it is not possible to win against a team like Australia. England will lose this match as usual. Australia is now leading by 277 runs. Today is the third day of the game.Australia will play a maximum of two sessions tomorrow.

Yes, England is struggling throughout the series. Yeah, there is lack of back support from players. Few players doing the best while the back team misses it. If every player give an average performance the score could've been above 300. This time Australia confirms its win very earlier, because of two more days left for the match and it already leads by 282 runs.

Hope England will perform better in the upcoming match. It seems the right time to progress, because three more matches which can serve as a fight back for England.

After England lost 2 wickets for 12 runs when Joe Root and Malan were able to collect more than 100 in partnership. Then I thought the England team should now deal well with Australia. Can but 150 runs when rooted out. After that, no other batsman's crease lasted long. The match could have been drawn if England had collected as much as 350.

[CDC AP]

I am very very dissapointed with England batting performance. At 140-2 I betted my money on draw @2.00 odds as batting was looking so easy at that time and suddenly they collapsed. The way they were playing after that 3rd wicket was like a very low class team. I am very dissapointed with england perfomance. They can't survive even the whole day after the excellent first session.

[mm2543363580]

I am very very dissapointed with England batting performance. At 140-2 I betted my money on draw @2.00 odds as batting was looking so easy at that time and suddenly they collapsed. The way they were playing after that 3rd wicket was like a very low class team. I am very dissapointed with england perfomance. They can't survive even the whole day after the excellent first session.

Sorry for your loss. Its because of these reasons I rearly bet on test matches. We saw similar type of situation in India/New Zealand and Pak/Bangladesh test series. Things change suddenly when one team is going so good. I don't know whether such swings are natural in cricket or someone controlling the situation? Just asking.

[blatchcorn]

At least in Ashes the both are not clicking that's why England should try some other combination. I think with same mind set England dropped both of them in first Test and that proved to be a disaster because of there flop batting lineup. Anderson is already 39 years, I dont think he can go for 5 to 6 more years from here on.

Anderson may not be the perfect guy, but he has done well enough to guarantee a spot within the playing XI. Honestly I was shocked when he was dropped from the playing XI for the first test. He always maintains very good fitness levels and therefore I think that if he want, then he can go for another 5 years quite easily. And look at the younger generation bowlers like Woakes, Wood, Robinson, Mahmood and Archer. None of them are consistent. Unless they perform consistently, I guess the selectors should show adequate respect towards Anderson. 

England need quality pace attack like Australians have that can break partnerships. Right now I don't see there is anyone in there bowling lineup that can show some threat to Aussies. Likewise there batting revolves around Root only, I don't know with what intentions Haseeb was included as opener.
Is this England who is performing badly or its Australia doing too good ?

[GbitG]

I am very very dissapointed with England batting performance. At 140-2 I betted my money on draw @2.00 odds as batting was looking so easy at that time and suddenly they collapsed. The way they were playing after that 3rd wicket was like a very low class team. I am very dissapointed with england perfomance. They can't survive even the whole day after the excellent first session.

Disappointment is natural because this was overrated series just for having some good money from TV rights, and they are successful in this case, but now people's feeling right that England is just a crap side with very bad selection and having no quality batsmen just Root is not enough for doing all things in every inning for them. Bowling is some decent but still need some good support which is not available right now just three members are good enough, all others going very poor. Anderson, Broad and Root three men Barmy Army is not having any reply for Aussies very long list of quality, and we perform players.

[redsun114]

England too much over confidence on the strength of there team lead to such drastic performance in first two tests. On the other hand Australia didn't showed any sign of degradation in performance despite the fact there skipper had to resign just before the Ashes. Australia are truly professional, as there team never depends on few players.

England was never good and no one was feeling good about them just some hype was created by few media reports which was ended after first test result and now second test result is going to be giving them complete silent because all realizes it's just dumb team which can perform some better at home against weak sides.

And playing against Australia, India and New Zealand is completely different thing, so they fail here very badly now mostly peoples feeling this ashes is going to end with result of 5 - 0 which is not wrong because with current players and form it's surely written of the wall. Just some good rain can give them good relief from this, otherwise they are going to be completely outclass by all one off best team in current cricket game in this format.

[Haunebu]

I am very very dissapointed with England batting performance. At 140-2 I betted my money on draw @2.00 odds as batting was looking so easy at that time and suddenly they collapsed. The way they were playing after that 3rd wicket was like a very low class team. I am very dissapointed with england perfomance. They can't survive even the whole day after the excellent first session.

This is why it's always important to do your research by checking past results, home ground advantage, in-form players etc before taking such bets. Most people including me expected England to collapse since they are over-dependent on certain batsmen.

Just check this batting averages post which was shared by @JSRAW earlier in this thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5168384.msg58684953#msg58684953

[romero121]

I am very very dissapointed with England batting performance. At 140-2 I betted my money on draw @2.00 odds as batting was looking so easy at that time and suddenly they collapsed. The way they were playing after that 3rd wicket was like a very low class team. I am very dissapointed with england perfomance. They can't survive even the whole day after the excellent first session.

This is why it's always important to do your research by checking past results, home ground advantage, in-form players etc before taking such bets. Most people including me expected England to collapse since they are over-dependent on certain batsmen.

Just check this batting averages post which was shared by @JSRAW earlier in this thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5168384.msg58684953#msg58684953

Going through the match statistics of majority of the test matches, the first session used to be smooth and there won't be much of wicket fall. The second session used to be completely different from the first one. The ground used to change its nature with time, and how far this makes the change in the play matters. I'm not saying the ground is responsible for this, but it also have its role.

[eaLiTy]

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Going through the match statistics of majority of the test matches, the first session used to be smooth and there won't be much of wicket fall. The second session used to be completely different from the first one. The ground used to change its nature with time, and how far this makes the change in the play matters. I'm not saying the ground is responsible for this, but it also have its role.

England is giving away the matches too easily, once their top order is gone especially Joe Root then they are in big trouble as their middle order performs  once in a while, even in today's match i thought England would fight back but once Joe Root lost his wicket England surrendered the match to Australia.

Before the series i thought this will be a great series but unfortunately it is a one sided trashing.

[Sithara007]

Disappointment is natural because this was overrated series just for having some good money from TV rights, and they are successful in this case, but now people's feeling right that England is just a crap side with very bad selection and having no quality batsmen just Root is not enough for doing all things in every inning for them. Bowling is some decent but still need some good support which is not available right now just three members are good enough, all others going very poor. Anderson, Broad and Root three men Barmy Army is not having any reply for Aussies very long list of quality, and we perform players.

Dude, if you want to complain about the form of England team, then it is OK. But on what basis are you claiming that the Ashes is an overrated series? I can't think about a test series that is more famous than the Ashes. All the others, including the Border-Gavaskar and the Trans-Tasman comes behind Ashes in terms of popularity and viewership. Ashes is something special. It is the oldest rivalry, existing ever since test cricket was played for the first time. There may be a few occasions where the competition was not up to the mark. But that doesn't give you an opportunity to blame the series.