Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[galambo]

If the youngsters perform in the upcoming series then it is end of Cheteshwar Pujara and Ajinkya Rahane and they should hang their career. It is a fact that the career of Wriddhiman Saha is almost over once Rishabh Pant showcased his talent in the Test format and now it will be hard for him to make a return in the team unless Rishabh Pant is injured. Not sure about Ishant Sharma.

Its good to have backup in your team, this makes sense as player always take the game serious since he knows that he can be replaced if he wont performed. Pant performance in test is impressive, in his 48 innings he has scored 1735 with decent average. While Saha has scored 1352 runs in his 56 innings, don't know why Saha has been given too many chances.

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[laurenB7742]

If the youngsters perform in the upcoming series then it is end of Cheteshwar Pujara and Ajinkya Rahane and they should hang their career. It is a fact that the career of Wriddhiman Saha is almost over once Rishabh Pant showcased his talent in the Test format and now it will be hard for him to make a return in the team unless Rishabh Pant is injured. Not sure about Ishant Sharma.

Correct now it's time for change and selectors done this on right time Pujara and Rahane already have their all chances, but sadly they completely fail to give some good performance specially after very poor lost against struggling South Africa it needs a change, and they have done now it's all on these youths they give their best for having some better for their future because it is very good opportunity for them and Pant is already in with his very good game.

I actually think that India gave enough chances to their players to prove themselves again but they have failed to do so. India absolutely struggled against South Africa and I think it's absolutely visible that they had below-average batting stats.

And I think they should be done experimenting with those players, because I don't think they are going to give any good results at the moment.

So, it's better to go with the best squad or give some newcomers a chance to prove themselves instead of them. About the selection, I will say that very well done by the selection committee.

Ishant Sharma is also done his job even mostly he stays away due to his injuries but good thing he enters in legit club of 300+ wicket takes in test cricket it's big achievement from this tall bowlers now it's time for him to do some better instead of waiting for another call from selectors which is not coming in near future with very good number of young bowlers giving very good for team India.

I think Ishant  Sharma is just old right now and Even though he is a great bowler I think there are better options than him. So, it Will not be logical to Play him instead of other young fast bowlers.

[JSRAW]

If the youngsters perform in the upcoming series then it is end of Cheteshwar Pujara and Ajinkya Rahane and they should hang their career. It is a fact that the career of Wriddhiman Saha is almost over once Rishabh Pant showcased his talent in the Test format and now it will be hard for him to make a return in the team unless Rishabh Pant is injured. Not sure about Ishant Sharma.

Correct now it's time for change and selectors done this on right time Pujara and Rahane already have their all chances, but sadly they completely fail to give some good performance specially after very poor lost against struggling South Africa it needs a change, and they have done now it's all on these youths they give their best for having some better for their future because it is very good opportunity for them and Pant is already in with his very good game.

I actually think that India gave enough chances to their players to prove themselves again but they have failed to do so. India absolutely struggled against South Africa and I think it's absolutely visible that they had below-average batting stats.

And I think they should be done experimenting with those players, because I don't think they are going to give any good results at the moment.

So, it's better to go with the best squad or give some newcomers a chance to prove themselves instead of them. About the selection, I will say that very well done by the selection committee.

If you have no idea about players or never follow test cricket in general even scorecard then stop making general comment. By making such comment, which has virtually no facts and far from reality, you're not adding anything in discussion and it might look like spam.

In last 3-4 years India did nothing in their middle order, in 99% matches Kohli-Rahane-Pujara. Only couple of match i remember when this trio didn't appear together was cause of injury issue or break. That's it. So no they didn't do any experiment with the middle order yet. Now they are moving on which is a good thing.

Don't forget India won 2 back to back series in Australia and atm leading series by 2-1 in England. They won everywhere except South Africa and NZ. Not to mention virtually undefeated at home, they lost only 2-3 series in last 20-22 years at home.

[laurenB7742]

If you have no idea about players or never follow test cricket in general even scorecard then stop making general comment. By making such comment, which has virtually no facts and far from reality, you're not adding anything in discussion and it might look like spam.

In last 3-4 years India did nothing in their middle order, in 99% matches Kohli-Rahane-Pujara. Only couple of match i remember when this trio didn't appear together was cause of injury issue or break. That's it. So no they didn't do any experiment with the middle order yet. Now they are moving on which is a good thing.

Don't forget India won 2 back to back series in Australia and atm leading series by 2-1 in England. They won everywhere except South Africa and NZ. Not to mention virtually undefeated at home, they lost only 2-3 series in last 20-22 years at home.

Didn't India have a bad time with their top order? Didn't they give some players chances to prove themselves and they didn't live up to the expectation? Didn't they change the squad for the Sri Lankan series? I said everything based on these questions. I guess I was wrong, so thanks for pointing out the mistakes.

And unlike you, I don't wanna get aggressive. Seems like watching cricket is the meaning of your life but some of us have other work to do. And my advice is, instead of getting aggressive over some information, get a life.

I understand you are probably an Indian and for some reason, you don't like opposition but that's ok. maybe next time take one thing into consideration the other person is a human and he can also make mistakes, that's why we are coming here to discuss.

[mm2543363580]

If you have no idea about players or never follow test cricket in general even scorecard then stop making general comment. By making such comment, which has virtually no facts and far from reality, you're not adding anything in discussion and it might look like spam.

In last 3-4 years India did nothing in their middle order, in 99% matches Kohli-Rahane-Pujara. Only couple of match i remember when this trio didn't appear together was cause of injury issue or break. That's it. So no they didn't do any experiment with the middle order yet. Now they are moving on which is a good thing.

Don't forget India won 2 back to back series in Australia and atm leading series by 2-1 in England. They won everywhere except South Africa and NZ. Not to mention virtually undefeated at home, they lost only 2-3 series in last 20-22 years at home.

Indian Chief selector said that he requested all dropped players to play "Ranji Trophy" so that selectors can review there performance and fitness. This idicates the fact that Rehana and Pujara are dropped because of there decline in performance. Ajinkya Rahane has performed well in match between Mumbai and Saurashtra,  he scored 129 and 91 in two innings while his team lost the game. While Pujara was out on duck but still his team won.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/ranji-trophy-2021-22-1280196/mumbai-vs-saurashtra-elite-group-d-1280414/full-scorecard

[LittleBitFunny]

In last 3-4 years India did nothing in their middle order, in 99% matches Kohli-Rahane-Pujara. Only couple of match i remember when this trio didn't appear together was cause of injury issue or break. That's it. So no they didn't do any experiment with the middle order yet. Now they are moving on which is a good thing.

Don't forget India won 2 back to back series in Australia and atm leading series by 2-1 in England. They won everywhere except South Africa and NZ. Not to mention virtually undefeated at home, they lost only 2-3 series in last 20-22 years at home.

The Indian team is being discussed because their recent performance is not very good. Especially since the time of T20 World Cup. Are you satisfied with their performance after the T20 World Cup? At least I'm not satisfied.
They are playing two Test series after the World Cup. India have drawn one match against New Zealand and India have won one. India's top-order performance in the first Test was very poor. Only in the middle order and bowlers for good performance they were able to draw. In the second Test, Kohli, Pujara and Iyer all performed poorly.

I did not see any responsible player in the series against South Africa, almost all the batsmen's performance was irregular. And Pujara was a complete flop in this series.
I am not satisfied with the performance of India. Because India has a lot of young talented players, they have ample opportunity to replace the national team players. So those of us who are fans of India must expect better performance from them.

[JSRAW]

If you have no idea about players or never follow test cricket in general even scorecard then stop making general comment. By making such comment, which has virtually no facts and far from reality, you're not adding anything in discussion and it might look like spam.

In last 3-4 years India did nothing in their middle order, in 99% matches Kohli-Rahane-Pujara. Only couple of match i remember when this trio didn't appear together was cause of injury issue or break. That's it. So no they didn't do any experiment with the middle order yet. Now they are moving on which is a good thing.

Don't forget India won 2 back to back series in Australia and atm leading series by 2-1 in England. They won everywhere except South Africa and NZ. Not to mention virtually undefeated at home, they lost only 2-3 series in last 20-22 years at home.

Didn't India have a bad time with their top order? Didn't they give some players chances to prove themselves and they didn't live up to the expectation? Didn't they change the squad for the Sri Lankan series? I said everything based on these questions. I guess I was wrong, so thanks for pointing out the mistakes.

And unlike you, I don't wanna get aggressive. Seems like watching cricket is the meaning of your life but some of us have other work to do. And my advice is, instead of getting aggressive over some information, get a life.

I understand you are probably an Indian and for some reason, you don't like opposition but that's ok. maybe next time take one thing into consideration the other person is a human and he can also make mistakes, that's why we are coming here to discuss.

India travel with at least 3-4 openers depends on the form, just like any other team in the world so no it wasn't about giving chance to anyone. In Aus Shaw was not in form so Gill replaced him. When Gill got injured then Rahul replaced him in the England and when Rohit got injured Mayank got the chance, its pretty straight forward approach for any team.

India sent completely new team(t-20) to Sri Lanka because India was already playing test series in the England. Here you again making same mistake by mixing T-20 with the Tests. Facts doesn't care about anyone's feeling but if by any chance by stating simple facts to your post is hurting your feeling then please you are free to enjoy your victimhood.

The Indian team is being discussed because their recent performance is not very good. Especially since the time of T20 World Cup. Are you satisfied with their performance after the T20 World Cup? At least I'm not satisfied.

They lost 1 series but very same team won last 3 overseas series so what's your point? If you play good you will win, if not then you deserve to lose, its simple.

Ah your main point is about T-20 only
What's the connection with T-20 and Test team? But yeah they were shit in WC but its also true that they were almost unbeatable in bilateral series everywhere. Already posted Win/Loss ratio of last decade for every team couple of times.

Already cleared my position on team when i posted a new squad news here in this thread.
I posted this in last page

Yeah their time is up, now not worried about middle order when playing at home but these young guys need to perform in overseas conditions too and they should be given long rope for that. If not then some selectors might try bringing Puji-Rahane back in the team and in such scenario it would look good choice for the Indian team.

Personally i don't mind if Pujara keep travelling with the team when they are playing in the Australia for BG Trophy cause he had good outing there. Meanwhile Rahane scored a century in Ranji recently.

Don't know much about Saurabh Kumar but i think pitches are going to assist pacer (one match is D/N) Spin track is reserved for SENA countries.

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Edit : Mate, I have talked about the overall condition of the Indian team after the T20 world cup. Not about the T20 format.

@LittleBitFunny Bhai this is Test thread, that's all i can say. Although i do agree with you as far as last T-20 WC is concern. Almost everyone laughed at them for their performance at that time.

You don't understand what I mean.

Okay got your point. I mixed up your post with other poster. Yeah their performance did dip a bit but it's on focus because they lost SA series and it looked easy series for almost every fan. Can't blame anyone for NZ draw tho, it was bad luck, light did effect the game. If I'm not wrong then we lost 2-4 overs in that final session. Having said that i'm very optimistic for the new guys. Shreyas already got 1 century but i think Indian fans do have a very unrealistic expectation with their team. Win-lose are part of the game and somethime team does go into transition mode, which is completely fine IMO.

[LittleBitFunny]

The Indian team is being discussed because their recent performance is not very good. Especially since the time of T20 World Cup. Are you satisfied with their performance after the T20 World Cup? At least I'm not satisfied.

They lost 1 series but very same team won last 3 overseas series so what's your point? If you play good you will win, if not then you deserve to lose, its simple.

Ah your main point is about T-20 only
What's the connection with T-20 and Test team? But yeah they were shit in WC but its also true that they were almost unbeatable in bilateral series everywhere. Already posted Win/Loss ratio of last decade for every team couple of times.

Already cleared my position on team when i posted a new squad news here in this thread.

You don't understand what I mean. I did not say that their squad is weak. Their squad is very strong. And everyone is an experimented player. They have got a chance in the national team by proving their qualifications. I just wanted to say they lost form after the World Cup. They are not consistent.
2-1 years ago, even if all the players in the team played badly, we could have relied on Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli. These two players could serve the team regularly. But now, there is no one in the Indian team who is consistently playing well.

Edit : Mate, I have talked about the overall condition of the Indian team after the T20 world cup. Not about the T20 format.

[mm2543363580]

You don't understand what I mean. I did not say that their squad is weak. Their squad is very strong. And everyone is an experimented player. They have got a chance in the national team by proving their qualifications. I just wanted to say they lost form after the World Cup. They are not consistent.
2-1 years ago, even if all the players in the team played badly, we could have relied on Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli. These two players could serve the team regularly. But now, there is no one in the Indian team who is consistently playing well.

Edit : Mate, I have talked about the overall condition of the Indian team after the T20 world cup. Not about the T20 format.

I dont know whether it correct or not just my own thoughts that Kohli is most inconsistent player these days. As a regular batsman he scored his last century in 2019, so its three years since he scored a ton. I strongly feel that India must try some new talent in place of kohli while he regain his form in domestic player. Kohli totally failed in SA tour and chances are he may repeat same performance against SL.

[CDC AP]

You don't understand what I mean. I did not say that their squad is weak. Their squad is very strong. And everyone is an experimented player. They have got a chance in the national team by proving their qualifications. I just wanted to say they lost form after the World Cup. They are not consistent.
2-1 years ago, even if all the players in the team played badly, we could have relied on Rohit Sharma and Virat Kohli. These two players could serve the team regularly. But now, there is no one in the Indian team who is consistently playing well.

Edit : Mate, I have talked about the overall condition of the Indian team after the T20 world cup. Not about the T20 format.

I dont know whether it correct or not just my own thoughts that Kohli is most inconsistent player these days. As a regular batsman he scored his last century in 2019, so its three years since he scored a ton. I strongly feel that India must try some new talent in place of kohli while he regain his form in domestic player. Kohli totally failed in SA tour and chances are he may repeat same performance against SL.

Well I have to say that I totally disagree with you on this. He is still in ICC number 2 rank in ODI cricket and he is the only batsman in the world who is the top 10 rankings in all the 3 formats of cricket and you are asking for his replacement.
Yes he has not scored a century since 2019 but his average in not bad. He has scored a lot of half centuries.Yes he is not at his best in recent times but I believe there is still a lot of good cricket left in him.

[tygeade]

I have to say that I totally disagree with you on this. He is still in ICC number 2 rank in ODI cricket and he is the only batsman in the world who is the top 10 rankings in all the 3 formats of cricket and you are asking for his replacement.
Yes he has not scored a century since 2019 but his average in not bad. He has scored a lot of half centuries.Yes he is not at his best in recent times but I believe there is still a lot of good cricket left in him.

For your correction he is not alone in all three formats now Babar Azam is also in all three formats having same rankings in all formats. But one thing is sure still he is one of the best batsman in cricket even having very bad time with bat for some time but still capable of changing things for his team.

Secondly after losing against Pakistan in Twenty/20 world cup there were many questions about his leadership so BCCI decided to bring down him from this spot which creates too many feuds and now still we have many things which are answerable but no one available for this all but right now we are not talking about this all we are talking about Indian test performance which is still good, and they are going to face Sri Lanka which is easy for them to win and have some positive movement under new captain Rohit Sharma.

[Vaskiy]

In last 3-4 years India did nothing in their middle order, in 99% matches Kohli-Rahane-Pujara. Only couple of match i remember when this trio didn't appear together was cause of injury issue or break. That's it. So no they didn't do any experiment with the middle order yet. Now they are moving on which is a good thing.

Don't forget India won 2 back to back series in Australia and atm leading series by 2-1 in England. They won everywhere except South Africa and NZ. Not to mention virtually undefeated at home, they lost only 2-3 series in last 20-22 years at home.

I did not see any responsible player in the series against South Africa, almost all the batsmen's performance was irregular. And Pujara was a complete flop in this series.
I am not satisfied with the performance of India. Because India has a lot of young talented players, they have ample opportunity to replace the national team players. So those of us who are fans of India must expect better performance from them.

India have good number of young players. It needs to be taken into consideration that Indian players struggle to perform outside the country. In recent years Virat Kohli was giving a consistent performance, but this didn't work with South Africa which is a big failure for India. If young players were given opportunity, they need to be allowed to play continuously for few matches. Later if the performance isn't good enough then the board need to think of replacement. This won't happen with the selection, which is why young players aren't given big opportunity on such tournaments.

[Minor Miner]

India have good number of young players. It needs to be taken into consideration that Indian players struggle to perform outside the country. In recent years Virat Kohli was giving a consistent performance, but this didn't work with South Africa which is a big failure for India. If young players were given opportunity, they need to be allowed to play continuously for few matches. Later if the performance isn't good enough then the board need to think of replacement. This won't happen with the selection, which is why young players aren't given big opportunity on such tournaments.

Virat Kohli is one of the most talented players in India. His replacement has not yet been made in India. Maybe he's out of form for a while. But when he returns to form, we can see his outstanding performance again.
However, the Indian board has given him a lot of time. He has been included in the squad despite his consistently poor performances. But he could not improve himself. We don't want to lose such extraordinary talent. I hope he returns to form through rigorous practice. And give us a chance to see his unparalleled batting prowess again.

[Sithara007]

I dont know whether it correct or not just my own thoughts that Kohli is most inconsistent player these days. As a regular batsman he scored his last century in 2019, so its three years since he scored a ton. I strongly feel that India must try some new talent in place of kohli while he regain his form in domestic player. Kohli totally failed in SA tour and chances are he may repeat same performance against SL.

I agree with you regarding his recent form, but dropping him would be a bad idea. Still, it would be OK if the selectors want him to be rested for one series (should be a home series against a team other than the pig-4). The Indian team is full of talent and we have seen exceptional performance from players such as Venkatesh Iyer in the recent matches. I would like some changes in bowling lineup as well, as they can't be overdependent on players such as Shami and Bumrah. There is no harm in giving a match or two to some of the promising young pacers.

[blatchcorn]

I agree with you regarding his recent form, but dropping him would be a bad idea. Still, it would be OK if the selectors want him to be rested for one series (should be a home series against a team other than the pig-4). The Indian team is full of talent and we have seen exceptional performance from players such as Venkatesh Iyer in the recent matches. I would like some changes in bowling lineup as well, as they can't be overdependent on players such as Shami and Bumrah. There is no harm in giving a match or two to some of the promising young pacers.

I don't think dropping him is a bad idea. When Rohit Sharma was asked about dropping Kohli he took this question as joke, he only returned back the favor given by kohli to him after T20 WC. Such friendships and favoritism is bad for every team. Kohli is also not under any pressure because of his bad performance since he knew that no matter how bad he performs he cant be replaced since he has roots in indian cricket.

[perfect999]

I dont know whether it correct or not just my own thoughts that Kohli is most inconsistent player these days. As a regular batsman he scored his last century in 2019, so its three years since he scored a ton. I strongly feel that India must try some new talent in place of kohli while he regain his form in domestic player. Kohli totally failed in SA tour and chances are he may repeat same performance against SL.

I agree with you regarding his recent form, but dropping him would be a bad idea. Still, it would be OK if the selectors want him to be rested for one series (should be a home series against a team other than the pig-4). The Indian team is full of talent and we have seen exceptional performance from players such as Venkatesh Iyer in the recent matches. I would like some changes in bowling lineup as well, as they can't be overdependent on players such as Shami and Bumrah. There is no harm in giving a match or two to some of the promising young pacers.

Dropping Kohli is completely nonsense because he is a legendary player, and he needs some good support from his team and management which is currently available, and it's very good and agree here they need to give him sometime, and he can take rest against Sri Lanka because they are not good enough and this rest surely will give him some physical and mental strength which is very important before mega event which is going to play in October in Australia. IPL is really significant for him, so he can't drop this, so skipping Sri Lanka is much better for him and his form.

Now after losing captaincy from all formats it's surely good for him because now he can concentrate on his batting which will help in remaining part of his career but sometime back I was feeling he can break few Sachin's record, but now it's not looking with in frame.

[blatchcorn]

Now after losing captaincy from all formats it's surely good for him because now he can concentrate on his batting which will help in remaining part of his career but sometime back I was feeling he can break few Sachin's record, but now it's not looking with in frame.

I don't think it will give him any relief rather will give him more frustration since he has lost captaincy which tells that he lacks leadership qualities. You can see both his performance and body language both are going down since he has a row with BCCI that ends in removing from captaincy. He has not scored century for years now so there is rear chance of breaking Sachin tendulkar.

[Tony116]

India have good number of young players. It needs to be taken into consideration that Indian players struggle to perform outside the country. In recent years Virat Kohli was giving a consistent performance, but this didn't work with South Africa which is a big failure for India. If young players were given opportunity, they need to be allowed to play continuously for few matches. Later if the performance isn't good enough then the board need to think of replacement. This won't happen with the selection, which is why young players aren't given big opportunity on such tournaments.

Virat Kohli is one of the most talented players in India. His replacement has not yet been made in India. Maybe he's out of form for a while. But when he returns to form, we can see his outstanding performance again.
However, the Indian board has given him a lot of time. He has been included in the squad despite his consistently poor performances. But he could not improve himself. We don't want to lose such extraordinary talent. I hope he returns to form through rigorous practice. And give us a chance to see his unparalleled batting prowess again.

At present, I am not very satisfied with the performance of Test cricket in India. Because they play very well at home but can't perform very well abroad.

Consideration needs to be given to Indian players performing outside the country. I think there are a lot of young talented players in India right now, they have ample opportunity to replace the national team players. So we who are fans of India, we have to expect good performance from them. Of course, now they are moving slowly in this regard which is a good thing.

[perfect999]

At present, I am not very satisfied with the performance of Test cricket in India. Because they play very well at home but can't perform very well abroad.

Consideration needs to be given to Indian players performing outside the country. I think there are a lot of young talented players in India right now, they have ample opportunity to replace the national team players. So we who are fans of India, we have to expect good performance from them. Of course, now they are moving slowly in this regard which is a good thing.

It's very strange for me as you are not satisfied with Indian test cricket performance just after losing one series against South Africa even they won back to back two series in Australia, and recently they are winning a series against England.

Right now, they are very well-prepared and having all material for future it is very good time for them because they have enough funds, and they are doing all required things which can give them very good result in long term basis, and I am feeling currently after Australia they are very organized sports body in cricket because mostly others are struggling or having many issues specially finances are the biggest issue for many countries, but they are very well-prepared and have good talented players as well with recently win U19CWC is also very good and showing how they are good in their planning for future.

[Sithara007]

Dropping Kohli is completely nonsense because he is a legendary player, and he needs some good support from his team and management which is currently available, and it's very good and agree here they need to give him sometime, and he can take rest against Sri Lanka because they are not good enough and this rest surely will give him some physical and mental strength which is very important before mega event which is going to play in October in Australia. IPL is really significant for him, so he can't drop this, so skipping Sri Lanka is much better for him and his form.

Now after losing captaincy from all formats it's surely good for him because now he can concentrate on his batting which will help in remaining part of his career but sometime back I was feeling he can break few Sachin's record, but now it's not looking with in frame.

If he doesn't get enough support from the team and management, then it is entirely his own fault. He antagonized a lot of people with his biased selection policies and monkey-like antics on ground. He irritated a lot of fans in India by speaking against local festivals like Diwali and at the same time he actively promoted Halloween's Day and Black Lives Matter (along with another non-performer - Hard dick Pandya). He heeds to concentrate on his batting rather than getting involved in unrelated issues and trying to build a politically correct image.