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January 09, 2022, 05:42:56 PM
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Underdog BAN beating WTC Champions at their own backyard.
Troubled South Africa beating India (Arguably the best travelling team in last 3-4 years).
3 one sided matches but finally English team showing some sort of intent and managed to pull one of the fine escape in the Ashes.
Yeah, this year started differently for test cricket indeed.

It is time for WTC champion to prove themselves and they started the second test in that way. They teared the Bangladesh's bowling attack by scoring at the run rate of around 4. There will be chances for them to square the series with an innings victory.

I read that Kohli to return back to lead India in Cape town and Mohammed Siraj might be replaced by Ishant Sharma. Not sure why India failed to show the batting depth in 2nd match but we can expect them to fight hard as the series is in line.

England may fight hard due to the morale they got from 4th match but Hobart is a fatten pitch hence another draw might be possible.
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January 09, 2022, 05:44:35 PM
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A day of class shown by Latham, Young and Conway. So, A normal service resumes in New Zealand.
An impressive response by the world champion in the opening day in Christchurch after their first test defeat against Bangladesh. Bangladesh bowlers couldn't do anything at day 1, but bowlers must come back tomorrow. The pitch looks more batting friendly than bowling, we'll see how Bangladesh batters encounter back!
The bowlers has nothing to do in that condition. New Zealand has already made a great score and I think they will try to add 300+ more runs tomorrow before giving the declaration of their first innings. Everything will depend on the performance of Bangladeshi batsman. The match will be drawn if they can take the benefits of pitch condition. Otherwise they will lose by an innings if they show their poor form.
Yes a 600 plus score is looking really possible as newzealand are only one wicket down and their run raye is already very high and may be after few overs tomorrow newzealand will try to score much mor faster. Now the onus will be on the Bangladesh batsman to survive as long as possible and try to enforce the draw in thia match.

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January 09, 2022, 05:53:34 PM
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Basically win a Australia but total over was finished. I'm fully credit goes to England's lower orders batsman. They are really well batted.i think this England vs Australia This test match was interested.

Bangladesh vs New Zealand test cricket 1st day end.New Zealand they has been already a good total in run.I think thete is nothing to do bowler's. This pitch battling friendly pitch.
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January 09, 2022, 07:22:53 PM
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Basically win a Australia but total over was finished. I'm fully credit goes to England's lower orders batsman. They are really well batted.i think this England vs Australia This test match was interested.


It was a relief for England as they will now avoid whitewash. Aus tried there best to win this game but it was the rain which wasted one complete day and gave advantage to England. The way England is playing there chances of winning last Test is rear, they pray for rain to draw the last test and end series 3-0. Absolutely bazaar performance.
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January 09, 2022, 07:51:11 PM
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Look like England will survive this test match and this will end in a draw. Around 7 overs left in the day and they till have two wickets in hand. I am not sure if they will play all the remaining overs in the day or the dim light will call the day off early and England will be thankful for that.  Smiley
To my surprise they somehow survived the day and it was a good game of Cricket as i did not expect them to last the entire day and the match was on the line till the last ball which is really great. Scott Boland bowled really well but somehow they were lucky enough to hold on to the last ball.

Anyways 3 stunning results so far, 2022 looking good.

Underdog BAN beating WTC Champions at their own backyard.
Troubled South Africa beating India (Arguably the best travelling team in last 3-4 years).
3 one sided matches but finally English team showing some sort of intent and managed to pull one of the fine escape in the Ashes.
New Zealand started well this time around after the last defeat and looks like vengeance Cheesy .

England avoided the white wash with the draw Cheesy.
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January 10, 2022, 12:04:00 AM
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Basically win a Australia but total over was finished. I'm fully credit goes to England's lower orders batsman. They are really well batted.i think this England vs Australia This test match was interested.
They survived a day which is a surprise, Australia should have declared earlier rather than delaying them this longer.

Bangladesh vs New Zealand test cricket 1st day end.New Zealand they has been already a good total in run.I think thete is nothing to do bowler's. This pitch battling friendly pitch.
May be a strategic move because Bangladesh defeated them which was a big upset. Cheesy
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January 10, 2022, 02:27:13 AM
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They survived a day which is a surprise, Australia should have declared earlier rather than delaying them this longer.

My thoughts as well. Australia should have declared after taking a lead of 340-350. Instead they waited till the lead got to 388, wasting some 15 overs in the process. And in the end, this decision cost them the match. Towards the end, Usman Khawaja was focusing on his century and was batting very slowly. Cameron Green on the other end was also trying to provide Khawaja the strike. I don't have anything against Khawaja, but at least he should have scored runs quickly, or signaled the captain that he is not interested in the century.

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January 10, 2022, 02:29:13 AM
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Ah well bhai i know you're T-20 lover and inclined towards result oriented tests but sometimes you're way too biased.
Valid points. Draws in tests are understandable if both teams still have great chances at winning the match. I do prefer T-20 format over other formats and I hate it when tests end as a draw when the result is obvious.

This is why I appreciate systems like the D/L system which provide a proper conclusion to a Cricket match irrespective of other factors.

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January 10, 2022, 10:22:46 AM
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Has anyone watched the match between Bangladesh and New Zealand? At the end of the day, I checked the scoreboard. New Zealand declared their innings at 521 runs. Bangladesh batted only 42 overs. They finished their innings with 126 runs. After winning the first Test match, everyone hoped that Bangladesh team would be able to compete in the second Test as well. But they are still 395 runs behind at the end of the first innings. My guess is they will lose by an innings.
However, Bangladesh is not familiar with the pitch that New Zealand has made. Bangladesh's field pitch is completely different. The BCB should provide training to players on all types of pitches. Then Bangladesh team would not have faced such a bad performance.

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January 10, 2022, 11:30:25 AM
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Has anyone watched the match between Bangladesh and New Zealand? At the end of the day, I checked the scoreboard. New Zealand declared their innings at 521 runs. Bangladesh batted only 42 overs. They finished their innings with 126 runs. After winning the first Test match, everyone hoped that Bangladesh team would be able to compete in the second Test as well. But they are still 395 runs behind at the end of the first innings. My guess is they will lose by an innings.
However, Bangladesh is not familiar with the pitch that New Zealand has made. Bangladesh's field pitch is completely different. The BCB should provide training to players on all types of pitches. Then Bangladesh team would not have faced such a bad performance.

It's expected New Zealand will get benefit from the pitch. The champions have been responding well. Black Caps score 521 runs in their first innings thanks to Tom Latham's brilliant 252 runs. With five wickets and 300 test wickets, Trent Boult celebrates a milestone day. He's a beauty at Christchurch. However, Bangladesh batters fell so hard, they were dismissed at 126 runs only. Bangladesh's main issue is their overconfidence. But that, indeed, is what they are. As it stands, the match will not reach 5 days and will lose an inning with runs.
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January 10, 2022, 01:16:10 PM
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Has anyone watched the match between Bangladesh and New Zealand? At the end of the day, I checked the scoreboard. New Zealand declared their innings at 521 runs. Bangladesh batted only 42 overs. They finished their innings with 126 runs. After winning the first Test match, everyone hoped that Bangladesh team would be able to compete in the second Test as well. But they are still 395 runs behind at the end of the first innings. My guess is they will lose by an innings.
However, Bangladesh is not familiar with the pitch that New Zealand has made. Bangladesh's field pitch is completely different. The BCB should provide training to players on all types of pitches. Then Bangladesh team would not have faced such a bad performance.

It's expected New Zealand will get benefit from the pitch. The champions have been responding well. Black Caps score 521 runs in their first innings thanks to Tom Latham's brilliant 252 runs. With five wickets and 300 test wickets, Trent Boult celebrates a milestone day. He's a beauty at Christchurch. However, Bangladesh batters fell so hard, they were dismissed at 126 runs only. Bangladesh's main issue is their overconfidence. But that, indeed, is what they are. As it stands, the match will not reach 5 days and will lose an inning with runs.

I think this was somewhat of an expected result. What came as a surprise is that Bangladesh won the first match. I think that the New Zealand players underestimated the Bangladesh players in the first game and that's why they lost.
After they lost, then they came back to their senses and thought that they had to win this game anyway. Also maybe the Bangladesh players got carried away by the first win and this is not good for them.
They should be congratulated for their first win, but also this match shows that they need to work on so many things in test cricket. Getting all out for 126 runs I think that they might lose this match by innings which would be pretty disappointing.

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January 10, 2022, 02:08:13 PM
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Has anyone watched the match between Bangladesh and New Zealand? At the end of the day, I checked the scoreboard. New Zealand declared their innings at 521 runs. Bangladesh batted only 42 overs. They finished their innings with 126 runs. After winning the first Test match, everyone hoped that Bangladesh team would be able to compete in the second Test as well. But they are still 395 runs behind at the end of the first innings. My guess is they will lose by an innings.
However, Bangladesh is not familiar with the pitch that New Zealand has made. Bangladesh's field pitch is completely different. The BCB should provide training to players on all types of pitches. Then Bangladesh team would not have faced such a bad performance.

Did anyone know whether Newzealand enforce the follow-on ? Although Bangladesh innings were ended on 126 runs but i did not find any announcement whether Newzealand will bat on the 3rd day or will they allow Bangladesh to play again. I think they should enforce the follow on and the match could be finished on the 3rd day.

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January 10, 2022, 03:02:59 PM
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Ah well bhai i know you're T-20 lover and inclined towards result oriented tests but sometimes you're way too biased.
Valid points. Draws in tests are understandable if both teams still have great chances at winning the match. I do prefer T-20 format over other formats and I hate it when tests end as a draw when the result is obvious.

This is why I appreciate systems like the D/L system which provide a proper conclusion to a Cricket match irrespective of other factors.

Your point of views are very different from others. You still think that  D/L system is fair? I don't think so. This is one of the poor systems which gives a lot of benefit to the team batting first and making the target unrealistic for the chasing team. If you remember the Semifinal of 1992 world cup, where South Africa, despite being in a better position in the semifinals, was lost to England on this D/L Method.

Who else thinks this is a fair method  Huh

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January 10, 2022, 04:01:30 PM
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Did anyone know whether Newzealand enforce the follow-on ? Although Bangladesh innings were ended on 126 runs but i did not find any announcement whether Newzealand will bat on the 3rd day or will they allow Bangladesh to play again. I think they should enforce the follow on and the match could be finished on the 3rd day.

There is no announcement that has been made by the New Zealand team yet. However, it is expected that they will give another chance to the Bangladesh team to bat the next day. Bangladesh trailing by 395 runs. And they don't have the ability to score 395 runs on this type of pitch as they did in the first innings. My prediction is that Bangladesh will bat again tomorrow, and will be able to collect 220 runs. Bangladesh will lose all their wickets in the next day.

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January 10, 2022, 04:08:59 PM
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However, Bangladesh is not familiar with the pitch that New Zealand has made. Bangladesh's field pitch is completely different. The BCB should provide training to players on all types of pitches. Then Bangladesh team would not have faced such a bad performance.
Most probably Bangladesh will loss the match by an innings if New Zealand enforce the follow on. The pitch behaved differently on the second day. Only 1 wicket fallen on first day and we have seen 15 wickets fall on day two. And I agree with the fact that BCB should change the pitch condition of their home ground. Bangladeshi players always struggle when they plays in other countries filed.

Did anyone know whether Newzealand enforce the follow-on ?
They haven't made the decision yet. This is the last test match of Ross Taylor as he announced his retirement. They may choose to bat again if they want to give another batting chance to Ross Taylor in his last test match.

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January 10, 2022, 04:10:44 PM
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Did anyone know whether Newzealand enforce the follow-on ? Although Bangladesh innings were ended on 126 runs but i did not find any announcement whether Newzealand will bat on the 3rd day or will they allow Bangladesh to play again. I think they should enforce the follow on and the match could be finished on the 3rd day.

There is no announcement that has been made by the New Zealand team yet. However, it is expected that they will give another chance to the Bangladesh team to bat the next day. Bangladesh trailing by 395 runs. And they don't have the ability to score 395 runs on this type of pitch as they did in the first innings. My prediction is that Bangladesh will bat again tomorrow, and will be able to collect 220 runs. Bangladesh will lose all their wickets in the next day.
Well it is quiet obvious that newzealand will make Bangladesh bat again tomorrow. 395 is a huge huge lead and most probably this match will end tomorrow. Newzealand bowlers would still be fresh so there is no reason for newzealand to bat again. If Bangladesh able to take this match to 4th day then I will say well done to them.
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Did anyone know whether Newzealand enforce the follow-on ?
They haven't made the decision yet. This is the last test match of Ross Taylor as he announced his retirement. They may choose to bat again if they want to give another batting chance to Ross Taylor in his last test match.

This will be not a wise decision by NZ captain  Latham to allow the team to bat again only because they want Ross Taylor to play another innings. What if he fails to score and even if he score 50+ runs what difference will it make to his career record. In any case he will be remembered as a great player for the new zealand team.
I hope Latham take the wise action tomorrow and enforce the follow on.

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January 10, 2022, 10:54:51 PM
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Did anyone know whether Newzealand enforce the follow-on ?
They haven't made the decision yet. This is the last test match of Ross Taylor as he announced his retirement. They may choose to bat again if they want to give another batting chance to Ross Taylor in his last test match.

This will be not a wise decision by NZ captain  Latham to allow the team to bat again only because they want Ross Taylor to play another innings. What if he fails to score and even if he score 50+ runs what difference will it make to his career record. In any case he will be remembered as a great player for the new zealand team.
I hope Latham take the wise action tomorrow and enforce the follow on.
Rather than a career record, his last match will be a remembered by him. He'll be remembered for his performance throughout his cricketing career. The performance of Bangladesh this time is completely opposite to the previous match. New Zealand have made them strong with the previous match defeat. Does anybody know whether the Bangladesh had a national holiday once after the win against New Zealand. Years back Bangladesh had a national holiday once after winning a match against India Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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Your point of views are very different from others. You still think that  D/L system is fair? I don't think so. This is one of the poor systems which gives a lot of benefit to the team batting first and making the target unrealistic for the chasing team. If you remember the Semifinal of 1992 world cup, where South Africa, despite being in a better position in the semifinals, was lost to England on this D/L Method.

Who else thinks this is a fair method  Huh
Nonsense. If it wasn't fair, it would have been scrapped a long time back. The example which you gave is valid, but it is part of a minority of cases. It provides fair conclusions majority of the time which is what matters the most.

Other systems like the VAR in soccer perform in a similar manner. No system is perfect basically.

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This will be not a wise decision by NZ captain  Latham to allow the team to bat again only because they want Ross Taylor to play another innings. What if he fails to score and even if he score 50+ runs what difference will it make to his career record. In any case he will be remembered as a great player for the new zealand team.
I hope Latham take the wise action tomorrow and enforce the follow on.

This is something that the Asian teams do, but not the SENA nations. One exception was the recently concluded 4th test of Ashes, where the Australian captain delayed declaring his innings, so that Usman Khawaja could complete his century. And this in turn resulted in a draw, as the last wicket partnership between James Anderson and Stuart Broad managed to survive the 5th day. I don't want the New Zealand captain to make the same mistake. Ross Taylor is a legendary player and he always put his team above his personal milestones.

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