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December 24, 2021, 07:35:46 AM
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LOL... after such pathetic performance from England, you still expect them to win? You sure that you are not being overly optimistic? And I would say the same for India vs South Africa as well. The tracks are going to be bouncy, and supportive of seam bowling. I heard that Nortje is injured, but there is no dearth of pace bowling talent in South Africa. Still, it would be interesting to see how the South African batsmen fare against the Indian seamers (especially Quinton de Kock, Temba Bavuma and Aiden Markram).

Meanwhile there is new entry in Australian squad for third test, Scott Michael Boland got a chance after Pat Cummins' close contact with a Covid-19 positive person. He hasnt played any test so far only ODI and T20I so far for this guy. England need to come back strong to win or either draw third test to keep series open, though chances are rear. 
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December 24, 2021, 02:10:04 PM
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Meanwhile there is new entry in Australian squad for third test, Scott Michael Boland got a chance after Pat Cummins' close contact with a Covid-19 positive person. He hasnt played any test so far only ODI and T20I so far for this guy. England need to come back strong to win or either draw third test to keep series open, though chances are rear.  

Are they going to drop Michael Neser? He was impressive with the ball and picked up a wicket in his very first over. I have seen Scott Boland in the BBL and I wasn't much impressed by him. He is a bit wayward and expensive. If included in the test playing XI, he will become the second Aborigine cricketer to represent Australia (first being Jason Gillespie). Josh Hazlewood is out injured, while Jhye Richardson is uncertain for the third test. BTW, Boland has taken a total of 37 first-class wickets at the MCG, at an average of 13.22.

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December 24, 2021, 06:17:40 PM
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Are they going to drop Michael Neser? He was impressive with the ball and picked up a wicket in his very first over. I have seen Scott Boland in the BBL and I wasn't much impressed by him. He is a bit wayward and expensive. If included in the test playing XI, he will become the second Aborigine cricketer to represent Australia (first being Jason Gillespie). Josh Hazlewood is out injured, while Jhye Richardson is uncertain for the third test. BTW, Boland has taken a total of 37 first-class wickets at the MCG, at an average of 13.22.

I dont think there is much difference between Michael Neser and Scott Boland, they both have somewhat similar stats and performances. What I read is that Boland is in the squad for third test, not sure it playing 11. No Hazlewwod for third test and Cameron Green (an allrounder) is replacing him for MCG encounter.

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December 24, 2021, 10:24:05 PM
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LOL... after such pathetic performance from England, you still expect them to win? You sure that you are not being overly optimistic? And I would say the same for India vs South Africa as well. The tracks are going to be bouncy, and supportive of seam bowling. I heard that Nortje is injured, but there is no dearth of pace bowling talent in South Africa. Still, it would be interesting to see how the South African batsmen fare against the Indian seamers (especially Quinton de Kock, Temba Bavuma and Aiden Markram).
You can never rule a quality team like England out even if they have been losing consistently in recent times which is why I am not being overly optimistic in this case. England winning would actually boost the entertainment factor of this boring series so far.

Also, South Africa isn't really a strong team anymore these days which is why I am expecting India to whitewash them.

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December 24, 2021, 11:03:55 PM
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2 big test matches are starting on 26th right after Christmas and I am excited for both of them. One of them is basically the decider for Ashes 2021 between Australia and England and I feel like England will win or draw the match.

The other match is being played between India and South Africa and I am expecting India to whitewash South Africa on their turf based on my research.

LOL... after such pathetic performance from England, you still expect them to win? You sure that you are not being overly optimistic? And I would say the same for India vs South Africa as well. The tracks are going to be bouncy, and supportive of seam bowling. I heard that Nortje is injured, but there is no dearth of pace bowling talent in South Africa. Still, it would be interesting to see how the South African batsmen fare against the Indian seamers (especially Quinton de Kock, Temba Bavuma and Aiden Markram).
We've seen a one-sided game so far during the Ashes series. Australia is the top choice to win. India doesn't have the best record when traveling to South Africa. But, India can definitely win this time in South Africa if they follow the basics properly without overreaching. The numbers are certainly not ones that the Indian team is proud of, but there is a chance that they can be improved this time around.
Australia will play better, because they're free to go for batting and bowling as the team doesn't have pressure as England. Because, England team is in compulsion to mark a win.

India vs South Africa doesn't look to be big rivalry as the match between India and Pakistan. However there is less chance of a whitewash by India.

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December 24, 2021, 11:22:56 PM
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2 big test matches are starting on 26th right after Christmas and I am excited for both of them. One of them is basically the decider for Ashes 2021 between Australia and England and I feel like England will win or draw the match.

The other match is being played between India and South Africa and I am expecting India to whitewash South Africa on their turf based on my research.

LOL... after such pathetic performance from England, you still expect them to win? You sure that you are not being overly optimistic? And I would say the same for India vs South Africa as well. The tracks are going to be bouncy, and supportive of seam bowling. I heard that Nortje is injured, but there is no dearth of pace bowling talent in South Africa. Still, it would be interesting to see how the South African batsmen fare against the Indian seamers (especially Quinton de Kock, Temba Bavuma and Aiden Markram).
We've seen a one-sided game so far during the Ashes series. Australia is the top choice to win. India doesn't have the best record when traveling to South Africa. But, India can definitely win this time in South Africa if they follow the basics properly without overreaching. The numbers are certainly not ones that the Indian team is proud of, but there is a chance that they can be improved this time around.
Australia will play better, because they're free to go for batting and bowling as the team doesn't have pressure as England. Because, England team is in compulsion to mark a win.

India vs South Africa doesn't look to be big rivalry as the match between India and Pakistan. However there is less chance of a whitewash by India.

Another factor that is helping the Australian side is home pitch benefit, they know how their pitch works. With the English side, there is a lot of problems but especially the batting order. The whole side is dependent on the performance of two players. The bowlers are helpless if the batters are unable to score runs.

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December 25, 2021, 02:46:05 AM
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Are they going to drop Michael Neser? He was impressive with the ball and picked up a wicket in his very first over. I have seen Scott Boland in the BBL and I wasn't much impressed by him. He is a bit wayward and expensive. If included in the test playing XI, he will become the second Aborigine cricketer to represent Australia (first being Jason Gillespie). Josh Hazlewood is out injured, while Jhye Richardson is uncertain for the third test. BTW, Boland has taken a total of 37 first-class wickets at the MCG, at an average of 13.22.

I dont think there is much difference between Michael Neser and Scott Boland, they both have somewhat similar stats and performances. What I read is that Boland is in the squad for third test, not sure it playing 11. No Hazlewwod for third test and Cameron Green (an allrounder) is replacing him for MCG encounter.

Cameron Green was not in the playing XI for the second test? I think he was in the side. So the only change will be Boland in the place of Neser. I heard that Jhye Richardson maybe rested and in that case someone else maybe replacing him (in all probability Pat Cummins). Now three tests remain - one each at MCG, SCG and Hobart (the final one being D/N). As of now, it looks as if Australia is going to whitewash this series. England batting is in poor form (apart from Root/Malan), and apart from Broad/Anderson, the bowlers are not picking wickets.

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December 25, 2021, 12:33:32 PM
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^^ Yeah Green was part of playing XI. Hearing some excellent stuff about another debutant Boland, he has excellent stats at MCG, may be that's why his name coming up for Boxing day test match.

England on the other hand going through rough time and everyone playing blame game. Root blaming bowlers that they should have bowl fuller. Anderson writing column and blaming coaching staff that they didn't conveyed any msz regarding bowling full and ofc he also pointed fingers at batsmen. Silverwood smoking weed and saying we didn't anything wrong and will proceed with same playing XI, meanwhile they are making 4 changes for tomorrow.  


India also facing some sort of selection headache for the first match against South Africa. Mainly in bowling and Number 5 position or 7 batsmen + 4 bowlers attack or 6 Batsmen +2 bowling allrounder+3 seamer

If they go with 6 Batsmen +2 bowling allrounder+3 seamer combination then Rahul-Mayank duo is fixed for opening. Pujara is in bad form but might get long rope, kohli is captain. Here comes a hard bargain Rahane-Iyer-Vihari are fighting for number 5th batsman. Rahane's form is terrible, they sent Vihari South Africa in advance to get some exposure, he did okay against SA A team so it would be hard choice if he gets drop. Iyer also got a ton on his debut, only one of em can play so tricky situation for number 5th slot. Pant is our 6th batter with gloves.

Number 7 and Number 8 should be all rounder slot for Ashwin and Thakur. Team would expect them to score at least 30-40 runs together in hostile condition. Ashwin is excellent number 8 batter but number 7 seems tough to me.

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Cameron Green was not in the playing XI for the second test? I think he was in the side. So the only change will be Boland in the place of Neser. I heard that Jhye Richardson maybe rested and in that case someone else maybe replacing him (in all probability Pat Cummins). Now three tests remain - one each at MCG, SCG and Hobart (the final one being D/N). As of now, it looks as if Australia is going to whitewash this series. England batting is in poor form (apart from Root/Malan), and apart from Broad/Anderson, the bowlers are not picking wickets.

Green was not in playing 11 in second test. Jhye Richardson had a major leg injury, its not clear whether he will joining the playing 11 or not. England may be in poor form but we can't say its all over for them. 3rd test will be interesting as England will try to bounce back while Australia will try to maintain there supremacy.

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I am having hopes of India winning a match and if they are able to win the series it will be history as South Africa is hard to beat in their home soil and India coming with victory over Australia and England and if they continue the same pattern it would be great. The best part is that India has world class bowlers which they lacked when they used to tour earlier and if the batsman clicks then it will be an interesting series.
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I am having hopes of India winning a match and if they are able to win the series it will be history as South Africa is hard to beat in their home soil and India coming with victory over Australia and England and if they continue the same pattern it would be great. The best part is that India has world class bowlers which they lacked when they used to tour earlier and if the batsman clicks then it will be an interesting series.

RSA was not doubt very hard side to play at there home soil but it was when they have players pollack, gibbs, Smith in there sides. Right now they don't have such strong team. There side is weaken because of quota system introduced by there board. Asian teams were very weak in South but not anymore. Recently Pakistan won ODI and T20 series in SA.

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Green was not in playing 11 in second test. Jhye Richardson had a major leg injury, its not clear whether he will joining the playing 11 or not. England may be in poor form but we can't say its all over for them. 3rd test will be interesting as England will try to bounce back while Australia will try to maintain there supremacy.

Confusing. Here is the scorecard for the second test:
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/the-ashes-2021-22-1263452/australia-vs-england-2nd-test-1263463/full-scorecard

I could see the name of Cameron Green there. BTW, I was unaware of Jhye Richardson's surgery. I guess Richardson will be replaced by Cummins, and Neser will be replaced by Boland. Anyway, as things stand, In would say that Australia is having the advantage over England. I would expect them to go up 3-0. It would require a miracle from the part of England to turn things around.

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The third test has started. Australia won the toss and elected to bowl first. I would say it is a good decision as England has already lost 2 wickets and have only 14 runs on the scoreboard. Malan and Root are on the pitch. In my opinion, they both need to stay there till the end of day 1 as after both of them no one has been able to score.

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The third test has started. Australia won the toss and elected to bowl first. I would say it is a good decision as England has already lost 2 wickets and have only 14 runs on the scoreboard. Malan and Root are on the pitch. In my opinion, they both need to stay there till the end of day 1 as after both of them no one has been able to score.

Malan is gone now. Cummins has so far taken all three wickets to fall before lunch and England is struggling at 61/3. The good news for England is that Joe Root looks to be in fine firm. He has made 33 so far. BTW, Scott Boland is making his debut today. Bowled 5 wicketless overs so far, but he looks good. So for the pace combination it is going to be Cummins/Starc/Boland, with Richardson and Neser replaced from the playing XI from the last test. Disappointed for Richardson, since he took 5 wickets in the second innings at Adelaide.

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The third test has started. Australia won the toss and elected to bowl first. I would say it is a good decision as England has already lost 2 wickets and have only 14 runs on the scoreboard. Malan and Root are on the pitch. In my opinion, they both need to stay there till the end of day 1 as after both of them no one has been able to score.
The England's woe still continue. They are about to get all out for total of below 200 runs. Only skipper Joe Root managed to score an half century and highly expected man to deliver Ben Stokes made 25 runs for his part. For Australia skipper Pat Cummins is leading the wicket tally 3 scalps. By the way how the first innings of England gone so far, I assume Australia already has put one hand on the Ashes trophy.

Scott Boland is making his debut today. Bowled 5 wicketless overs so far, but he looks good.
Yeah, this latest debutant is impressive and got his maiden wicket by trapping Mark Wood for a leg before wicket. Hope he may continues his impressive run in upcoming matches as well; Australia is always blessed with lots of such amazing talents.

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December 26, 2021, 06:48:15 AM
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The third test has started. Australia won the toss and elected to bowl first. I would say it is a good decision as England has already lost 2 wickets and have only 14 runs on the scoreboard. Malan and Root are on the pitch. In my opinion, they both need to stay there till the end of day 1 as after both of them no one has been able to score.

185 and its all over for England, they can't even bat for one complete day. Root is the only one who contributed something that saved England from humiliation, root scored 50 and was top scorer. I don't know why England have selected haseeb as opener for Ashes squad. He is yet to reach in double figures this Ashes.

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December 26, 2021, 06:59:01 AM
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I am having hopes of India winning a match and if they are able to win the series it will be history as South Africa is hard to beat in their home soil and India coming with victory over Australia and England and if they continue the same pattern it would be great. The best part is that India has world class bowlers which they lacked when they used to tour earlier and if the batsman clicks then it will be an interesting series.
Nothing wrong with that. We do have good test team and excellent seam attack which could test Proteas batters. I remember our last tour of South Africa, our bowlers were extremely impressive and batters equally shit lol.

Anyway Centurion is SA's Gabba. Their numbers are very dominating there. Win = 21 , Lost = 2

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December 26, 2021, 07:08:18 AM
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I am having hopes of India winning a match and if they are able to win the series it will be history as South Africa is hard to beat in their home soil and India coming with victory over Australia and England and if they continue the same pattern it would be great. The best part is that India has world class bowlers which they lacked when they used to tour earlier and if the batsman clicks then it will be an interesting series.
Nothing wrong with that. We do have good test team and excellent seam attack which could test Proteas batters. I remember our last tour of South Africa, our bowlers were extremely impressive and batters equally shit lol.

Anyway Centurion is SA's Gabba. Their numbers are very dominating there. Win = 21 , Lost = 2

There is no comparison of SA squad with India squad. Though India has not very good test record at SA they have so far won only 3 test at SA and never won any test series there. Its a very good chance for india to better there record at SA, hope that kohli BCCI row won't effect this test series.

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December 26, 2021, 07:49:46 AM
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Anyway Centurion is SA's Gabba. Their numbers are very dominating there. Win = 21 , Lost = 2
India won the toss and elected to bat and hopefully it is a good decision as the pitch gets faster in the second and third day. Ajinkya Rahane is in the team and hopefully he delivers, if not he should be replaced forever and his career is in the line. Three fast bowlers and a medium pacer with a spinner and it is a good bowling combination and why is Rohit Sharma not in the playing eleven, is he injured ? .
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December 26, 2021, 07:50:38 AM
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PS : Meh doesn't matter, we are going to lose anyway lol  Grin
I am having hopes of India winning a match and if they are able to win the series it will be history as South Africa is hard to beat in their home soil and India coming with victory over Australia and England and if they continue the same pattern it would be great. The best part is that India has world class bowlers which they lacked when they used to tour earlier and if the batsman clicks then it will be an interesting series.
Nothing wrong with that. We do have good test team and excellent seam attack which could test Proteas batters. I remember our last tour of South Africa, our bowlers were extremely impressive and batters equally shit lol.

Anyway Centurion is SA's Gabba. Their numbers are very dominating there. Win = 21 , Lost = 2

There is no comparison of SA squad with India squad. Though India has not very good test record at SA they have so far won only 3 test at SA and never won any test series there. Its a very good chance for india to better there record at SA, hope that kohli BCCI row won't effect this test series.
Indian team looks far better than the SA side. India has won the toss and decided to bat first. I am doubtful about the performance of Virat Kohli, Pujara and Rahane. The middle order has been out of form and if the opener are not able to score good runs on the board then SA might have an upper edge.

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