Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[BALIK]

WI have toured Pakistan previously and there is nothing strange in there new tour in Dec 2021. Aus tour announcement just before semi final is strange, they never visited Pakistan in 24 years and now planning to visit Pakistan in Mar 2022 and that too just before semi final. Aus should tour or cancel in advance, must not do stuff like NZ did.
Nonetheless its all positive news for PCB and cricket fans in Pakistan.

It's a natural things change even in Pakistan case it's taking some more time and have serious troubles, but this change will happen because we all know 220 Millions peoples living and having some good life with many benefits and troubles is not a joke. Teams like Australia, England and New Zealand have some better hold, so just because of this they have done to blackmail Third World countries.
Now after IPL BCCI factor is also having big impact on ICC, and they have never been Pakistan friendly just because of this they are facing troubles. One thing is sure no one can ignore Pakistan in long run even they have not good financial benefits India, Pakistan rivalry is just a hate from few peoples, so it's never going to end because of education and religion affairs.

India vs Pakistan rivalry is very much affected outside of cricket. And in my opinion, Pakistan doesn't hate India as much as India hates Pakistan and this is also true that this problem is caused by very few people but the problem is those people are the ones in power. And most of the time they control the media and the media controls what people see and believe. So even though people are not responsible for this they are a part of this. And we all know that BCCI has always had an effect on ICC's decisions.

[RankerCan]

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India vs Pakistan rivalry is very much affected outside of cricket. And in my opinion, Pakistan doesn't hate India as much as India hates Pakistan and this is also true that this problem is caused by very few people but the problem is those people are the ones in power. And most of the time they control the media and the media controls what people see and believe. So even though people are not responsible for this they are a part of this. And we all know that BCCI has always had an effect on ICC's decisions.

Seems like things are going a bit in favor of Pakistan as CA (though partially) announces tour to Pakistan in Mar next year, while England also confirm tour to Pakistan next year. BCCI is richest board and has major influence on ICC decisions, people on both sides of India and Pak don't hate each other. Just see how players of both team meet and greet in recent encounter. Lets hope this rivalry end soon and we see quality cricket in sub-continent.

[Vaskiy]

WI have toured Pakistan previously and there is nothing strange in there new tour in Dec 2021. Aus tour announcement just before semi final is strange, they never visited Pakistan in 24 years and now planning to visit Pakistan in Mar 2022 and that too just before semi final. Aus should tour or cancel in advance, must not do stuff like NZ did.
Nonetheless its all positive news for PCB and cricket fans in Pakistan.

It's a natural things change even in Pakistan case it's taking some more time and have serious troubles, but this change will happen because we all know 220 Millions peoples living and having some good life with many benefits and troubles is not a joke. Teams like Australia, England and New Zealand have some better hold, so just because of this they have done to blackmail Third World countries.
Now after IPL BCCI factor is also having big impact on ICC, and they have never been Pakistan friendly just because of this they are facing troubles. One thing is sure no one can ignore Pakistan in long run even they have not good financial benefits India, Pakistan rivalry is just a hate from few peoples, so it's never going to end because of education and religion affairs.

India vs Pakistan rivalry is very much affected outside of cricket. And in my opinion, Pakistan doesn't hate India as much as India hates Pakistan and this is also true that this problem is caused by very few people but the problem is those people are the ones in power. And most of the time they control the media and the media controls what people see and believe. So even though people are not responsible for this they are a part of this. And we all know that BCCI has always had an effect on ICC's decisions.

Pakistan doesn't hate India and same is with India. It is the media that outlines with some form of rivalry which doesn't go beyond the limit. With sports the rivalry is healthy and it creates more energy on the match. It is quite evident to see this healthy relationship in UAE. In most of the workers camp Pakistan and Indian people can be seen. During the match time each support their country and this doesn't end up with a fight. Each makes fun against each other, and the next day both work together.

[Fritwakky]

Pakistan doesn't hate India and same is with India. It is the media that outlines with some form of rivalry which doesn't go beyond the limit. With sports the rivalry is healthy and it creates more energy on the match. It is quite evident to see this healthy relationship in UAE. In most of the workers camp Pakistan and Indian people can be seen. During the match time each support their country and this doesn't end up with a fight. Each makes fun against each other, and the next day both work together.

People don't hate each other its the politicians who malign heart and minds of innocent people for there political gains. Pakistan and India should play more and more cricket together, so that players of both sides don't feel immense pressure during the match. Media houses are just puppet of politicians so we cant expect anything good from them. See yourself, under how much pressure Indian team played the game against Pak in this t20 WC.

[kingangel]

Pakistan doesn't hate India and same is with India. It is the media that outlines with some form of rivalry which doesn't go beyond the limit. With sports the rivalry is healthy and it creates more energy on the match. It is quite evident to see this healthy relationship in UAE. In most of the workers camp Pakistan and Indian people can be seen. During the match time each support their country and this doesn't end up with a fight. Each makes fun against each other, and the next day both work together.

People don't hate each other its the politicians who malign heart and minds of innocent people for there political gains. Pakistan and India should play more and more cricket together, so that players of both sides don't feel immense pressure during the match. Media houses are just puppet of politicians so we cant expect anything good from them. See yourself, under how much pressure Indian team played the game against Pak in this t20 WC.

Yes these politicians and the media and specially so much false media of social media platform are spoiling the things up. We always felt there should be regular matches between india and pakistan. Specially test cricket we have not saw them play with each other since a very long time. Dont know when this gonna happen though I really hope we see them play with each other soon

[Theones]

India and New Zealand starting their next WTC cycle against each other.

BCCI announced their squad for 2 test match series.
- Virat Kohli is resting for 1st test match. Ajinkya will lead the team in his absense.
- Rohit, Bumrah, Shami and Pant are rested.

Wow seems like a complete new Indian test team. At first I thought it's Indian second sting team. Kohli is rested or he is removed from test captaincy also ( any source from bcci that can clarify that ). These major changes are done in the light of recent T20 WC. NZ has good test squad and this team need to play well to win the game.

[pakhitheboss]

Pakistan doesn't hate India and same is with India. It is the media that outlines with some form of rivalry which doesn't go beyond the limit. With sports the rivalry is healthy and it creates more energy on the match. It is quite evident to see this healthy relationship in UAE. In most of the workers camp Pakistan and Indian people can be seen. During the match time each support their country and this doesn't end up with a fight. Each makes fun against each other, and the next day both work together.

People don't hate each other its the politicians who malign heart and minds of innocent people for there political gains. Pakistan and India should play more and more cricket together, so that players of both sides don't feel immense pressure during the match. Media houses are just puppet of politicians so we cant expect anything good from them. See yourself, under how much pressure Indian team played the game against Pak in this t20 WC.

Yes these politicians and the media and specially so much false media of social media platform are spoiling the things up. We always felt there should be regular matches between india and pakistan. Specially test cricket we have not saw them play with each other since a very long time. Dont know when this gonna happen though I really hope we see them play with each other soon

I do not know who to be blamed but sports should not have politics. If both the government by any chance allow them to play then the opposition parties in both countries will create a new issue. Then mainstream media will try to in cash this opportunity for higher ratings. This is a never-ending story and we as cricket fans cannot do anything here.

[HUSTLER]

India and New Zealand starting their next WTC cycle against each other.

BCCI announced their squad for 2 test match series.
- Virat Kohli is resting for 1st test match. Ajinkya will lead the team in his absense.
- Rohit, Bumrah, Shami and Pant are rested.

Wow seems like a complete new Indian test team. At first I thought it's Indian second sting team. Kohli is rested or he is removed from test captaincy also ( any source from bcci that can clarify that ). These major changes are done in the light of recent T20 WC. NZ has good test squad and this team need to play well to win the game.

No there is no chance that kohli has been removed from test match captaincy as well. We have to agree that in test cricket India under kohli has done really well. Yes they lost the final against New Zealand but India have beaten australia in australia twice and also England in england and no other team has done that in recent past other than india.

[Maidak]

India vs Pakistan rivalry is very much affected outside of cricket. And in my opinion, Pakistan doesn't hate India as much as India hates Pakistan and this is also true that this problem is caused by very few people but the problem is those people are the ones in power. And most of the time they control the media and the media controls what people see and believe. So even though people are not responsible for this they are a part of this. And we all know that BCCI has always had an effect on ICC's decisions.

Pakistan doesn't hate India and same is with India. It is the media that outlines with some form of rivalry which doesn't go beyond the limit. With sports the rivalry is healthy and it creates more energy on the match. It is quite evident to see this healthy relationship in UAE. In most of the workers camp Pakistan and Indian people can be seen. During the match time each support their country and this doesn't end up with a fight. Each makes fun against each other, and the next day both work together.

Well, I guess that's true. Because people don't generally hate anyone. But the media gives them a lot of reasons to lay hate. And the media knows that people here in India and Pakistan are emotional, so they hit them in their weak spots. And media nowadays will do almost anything for ratings and views, so they don't care what goes on outside. If they can cause an occurrence, they get more news so basically more TRP. But the fans know that cricket is a gentleman's sport and they respect that.

[StLucifer]

India and New Zealand starting their next WTC cycle against each other.

BCCI announced their squad for 2 test match series.
- Virat Kohli is resting for 1st test match. Ajinkya will lead the team in his absense.
- Rohit, Bumrah, Shami and Pant are rested.

Wow seems like a complete new Indian test team. At first I thought it's Indian second sting team. Kohli is rested or he is removed from test captaincy also ( any source from bcci that can clarify that ). These major changes are done in the light of recent T20 WC. NZ has good test squad and this team need to play well to win the game.

No there is no chance that kohli has been removed from test match captaincy as well. We have to agree that in test cricket India under kohli has done really well. Yes they lost the final against New Zealand but India have beaten australia in australia twice and also England in england and no other team has done that in recent past other than india.

Absolutely agree with you on this. Virat is still a match winner with the bat in any format of cricket. Yes he has not been in the best of form recently but there is a lot of cricket left him in still. Like sachin who also had a great phase between age 33 to 37 can also happen with kohli and can score tons of runs.
I really hope he comes back strong as he was before.

[mm2543363580]

No there is no chance that kohli has been removed from test match captaincy as well. We have to agree that in test cricket India under kohli has done really well. Yes they lost the final against New Zealand but India have beaten australia in australia twice and also England in england and no other team has done that in recent past other than india.

Right now kohli is one of the most successful India test captan surpassing legend MS Dohni.  As a captain he has played 65 test matches, 38 won, 16 lost and 11 draw. The percentage of winning is 58.46. So there is no need to replace kohli as test captain, just because of Indian team bad performance in T20 WC.

[GbitG]

India vs Pakistan rivalry is very much affected outside of cricket. And in my opinion, Pakistan doesn't hate India as much as India hates Pakistan and this is also true that this problem is caused by very few people but the problem is those people are the ones in power. And most of the time they control the media and the media controls what people see and believe. So even though people are not responsible for this they are a part of this. And we all know that BCCI has always had an effect on ICC's decisions.

Pakistan doesn't hate India and same is with India. It is the media that outlines with some form of rivalry which doesn't go beyond the limit. With sports the rivalry is healthy and it creates more energy on the match. It is quite evident to see this healthy relationship in UAE. In most of the workers camp Pakistan and Indian people can be seen. During the match time each support their country and this doesn't end up with a fight. Each makes fun against each other, and the next day both work together.

Well, I guess that's true. Because people don't generally hate anyone. But the media gives them a lot of reasons to lay hate. And the media knows that people here in India and Pakistan are emotional, so they hit them in their weak spots. And media nowadays will do almost anything for ratings and views, so they don't care what goes on outside. If they can cause an occurrence, they get more news so basically more TRP. But the fans know that cricket is a gentleman's sport and they respect that.

In Indian media and politics Pakistan factor has big impact because in last 74 years many still not accepting Pakistan as Country even in this year's Independence Day's speech also talk many negative things which bring some good spark and his this attitude is giving him some good benefits specially BJP and RSS both doing politics just base on this all, so recently we have some good hate related ads and talk on social media.
Sometime when I watch few YouTube channels I feel we are going to have war in next few days' speech's like this appearing on many Indian social media channels we all know these things happening mostly for having some good views and better funds from their agencies. I have been feeling it's not going to end in near future as right now Modi is having good hold and here in Pakistan we have Imran Khan both are not have any soft corner specially after Afghanistan issue It's going to be more heated in next few months then after elections are also coming mean more drama in house.

[bilal_jan321]

In Indian media and politics Pakistan factor has big impact because in last 74 years many still not accepting Pakistan as Country even in this year's Independence Day's speech also talk many negative things which bring some good spark and his this attitude is giving him some good benefits specially BJP and RSS both doing politics just base on this all, so recently we have some good hate related ads and talk on social media.
Sometime when I watch few YouTube channels I feel we are going to have war in next few days' speech's like this appearing on many Indian social media channels we all know these things happening mostly for having some good views and better funds from their agencies. I have been feeling it's not going to end in near future as right now Modi is having good hold and here in Pakistan we have Imran Khan both are not have any soft corner specially after Afghanistan issue It's going to be more heated in next few months then after elections are also coming mean more drama in house.

Well this is something not good for cricket. Two big cricket boards not playing with each other just on political grounds is not good for crcket. ICC must intervene in such situations and introduce some policies where every test playing country is mandatory to play against each other. But unfortunately ICC has very limited role in regulating cricket affairs. I don't see India Pakistan matches in near future because of hard stand of governments of both sides.

[StLucifer]

No there is no chance that kohli has been removed from test match captaincy as well. We have to agree that in test cricket India under kohli has done really well. Yes they lost the final against New Zealand but India have beaten australia in australia twice and also England in england and no other team has done that in recent past other than india.

Right now kohli is one of the most successful India test captan surpassing legend MS Dohni.  As a captain he has played 65 test matches, 38 won, 16 lost and 11 draw. The percentage of winning is 58.46. So there is no need to replace kohli as test captain, just because of Indian team bad performance in T20 WC.

Not only dhoni but i think he has also surpassed ricky poiting as a captain which is a huge achievement. As we all know under pointing australia were like unbeatable side in that time and If kohli's stat's are better than him there without a doubt his success in test match cricket as a captain is best. Kohli will be captain in test for atleast 3-4 years more for india that i am sure of.

[og kush420]

Not only dhoni but i think he has also surpassed ricky poiting as a captain which is a huge achievement. As we all know under pointing australia were like unbeatable side in that time and If kohli's stat's are better than him there without a doubt his success in test match cricket as a captain is best. Kohli will be captain in test for atleast 3-4 years more for india that i am sure of.

Kohli is still beyond ponting. Ponting so far appeared in 77 tests as captain, 48 won and 16 lost. Seeing the age and form of Kohli, he can beat ponting record in few years. It's a good move by BCCI that they have given rest to few of there key players that will help them in regaining the lost form.

[Gosgosking]

Pakistan doesn't hate India and same is with India. It is the media that outlines with some form of rivalry which doesn't go beyond the limit. With sports the rivalry is healthy and it creates more energy on the match. It is quite evident to see this healthy relationship in UAE. In most of the workers camp Pakistan and Indian people can be seen. During the match time each support their country and this doesn't end up with a fight. Each makes fun against each other, and the next day both work together.

People don't hate each other its the politicians who malign heart and minds of innocent people for there political gains. Pakistan and India should play more and more cricket together, so that players of both sides don't feel immense pressure during the match. Media houses are just puppet of politicians so we cant expect anything good from them. See yourself, under how much pressure Indian team played the game against Pak in this t20 WC.

Yes these politicians and the media and specially so much false media of social media platform are spoiling the things up. We always felt there should be regular matches between india and pakistan. Specially test cricket we have not saw them play with each other since a very long time. Dont know when this gonna happen though I really hope we see them play with each other soon

It's unfortunate citizens are going ways of the politicians, they should forget about the politians because most of them are fighting for their own personal interest. We the citizens should live our lives and do what makes happy. Sport is suppose to bring togetherness ,let go for the sport and earn the money too

[Sithara007]

Kohli is still beyond ponting. Ponting so far appeared in 77 tests as captain, 48 won and 16 lost. Seeing the age and form of Kohli, he can beat ponting record in few years. It's a good move by BCCI that they have given rest to few of there key players that will help them in regaining the lost form.

Ponting had a few legends in his team, and it helped him with the captaincy record. On the other hand, (apart from himself) Kohli was mostly dependent on players like Rohit, Pant, Shami, Bumrah and Ishant to win matches. These are world class players, but in no way they can be compared to the likes of Glenn McGrath and Shane Warne. I would say that at least in the initial years, Kohli had to put much more effort when compared to Ponting, and let's not forget the fact that the team was overdependent on him on the batting department.

[kingangel]

Kohli is still beyond ponting. Ponting so far appeared in 77 tests as captain, 48 won and 16 lost. Seeing the age and form of Kohli, he can beat ponting record in few years. It's a good move by BCCI that they have given rest to few of there key players that will help them in regaining the lost form.

Ponting had a few legends in his team, and it helped him with the captaincy record. On the other hand, (apart from himself) Kohli was mostly dependent on players like Rohit, Pant, Shami, Bumrah and Ishant to win matches. These are world class players, but in no way they can be compared to the likes of Glenn McGrath and Shane Warne. I would say that at least in the initial years, Kohli had to put much more effort when compared to Ponting, and let's not forget the fact that the team was overdependent on him on the batting department.

Completely agree with your point brother. Kohli dont have legends in his team but he has done well and made the players in his team. Specially in fast bowling department, India never had good test fast bowlers in fast apart from zaheer khan in test match cricket but during his captaincy he groomed any fast bowlers like shami and bumrah and thats why india is able to win in overseas conditions.

[Theones]

Ponting had a few legends in his team, and it helped him with the captaincy record. On the other hand, (apart from himself) Kohli was mostly dependent on players like Rohit, Pant, Shami, Bumrah and Ishant to win matches. These are world class players, but in no way they can be compared to the likes of Glenn McGrath and Shane Warne. I would say that at least in the initial years, Kohli had to put much more effort when compared to Ponting, and let's not forget the fact that the team was overdependent on him on the batting department.

Everyone during ponting era was legend Lee, baven, gilchrist and more. You are right that ponting had nothing much to do in the presence of such big guns. Meanwhile its dilemma of Asian teams that they are mostly dependent on few players in the team, they play with many weak links.

[Sithara007]

Completely agree with your point brother. Kohli dont have legends in his team but he has done well and made the players in his team. Specially in fast bowling department, India never had good test fast bowlers in fast apart from zaheer khan in test match cricket but during his captaincy he groomed any fast bowlers like shami and bumrah and thats why india is able to win in overseas conditions.

Fast bowling was always the weakest sector for Indian cricket. During the 90s, it was Javagal Srinath, who was the sole genuine fast bowler. After him, that position was taken up by Zaheer Khan, with a few medium pacers (Agarkar, Mohanty, Pathan.etc) for company. But then it changed. Look at the current bunch of Indian pacers. There are several genuine pace bowlers, including Shami, Ishant, Umesh, Siraj, Natarajan and Bumrah. India never had such a wide choice of selection as far as pace bowling is concerned.