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December 18, 2021, 01:11:53 PM
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Boring Ashes tournament so far.
Looking at the English performance its feels like over rated series IMO. Its only surviving because its a oldest cricket rivalry. Mediocre show from one side and they call it "The pinnacle of test cricket", more like a shithousery of test cricket. Feel bad for English fans tho. I used to feel exactly same about our team back in 2011-2013.

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December 18, 2021, 01:23:36 PM
Last edit: December 18, 2021, 01:45:16 PM by romero121
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England finished their first innings with 236 runs. After Malan and Root's partnership broke, no other player was able to form a pair. With such a performance, at least it is not possible to win against a team like Australia. England will lose this match as usual. Australia is now leading by 277 runs. Today is the third day of the game.Australia will play a maximum of two sessions tomorrow.
Yes, England is struggling throughout the series. Yeah, there is lack of back support from players. Few players doing the best while the back team misses it. If every player give an average performance the score could've been above 300. This time Australia confirms its win very earlier, because of two more days left for the match and it already leads by 282 runs.

Hope England will perform better in the upcoming match. It seems the right time to progress, because three more matches which can serve as a fight back for England.

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December 18, 2021, 03:11:34 PM
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Australia leading by close to 300 runs at this point, with 10 wickets to spare. It is going to be 2-0. I agree that this series have been boring so far. Two days remain and it looks almost certain that England is going to lose by a big margin. As usual, England is overdependent on Joe Root. This time Malan gave him some support, but the other batsmen looked out of sorts. Rory Burns is almost becoming meme material nowadays, after repeated failures. Ollie Pope and
Jos Buttler are not doing any better either.

England too much over confidence on the strength of there team lead to such drastic performance in first two tests. On the other hand Australia didn't showed any sign of degradation in performance despite the fact there skipper had to resign just before the Ashes. Australia are truly professional, as there team never depends on few players.

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December 18, 2021, 03:33:04 PM
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England finished their first innings with 236 runs. After Malan and Root's partnership broke, no other player was able to form a pair. With such a performance, at least it is not possible to win against a team like Australia. England will lose this match as usual. Australia is now leading by 277 runs. Today is the third day of the game.Australia will play a maximum of two sessions tomorrow.
Yes, England is struggling throughout the series. Yeah, there is lack of back support from players. Few players doing the best while the back team misses it. If every player give an average performance the score could've been above 300. This time Australia confirms its win very earlier, because of two more days left for the match and it already leads by 282 runs.

Hope England will perform better in the upcoming match. It seems the right time to progress, because three more matches which can serve as a fight back for England.

After England lost 2 wickets for 12 runs when Joe Root and Malan were able to collect more than 100 in partnership. Then I thought the England team should now deal well with Australia. Can but 150 runs when rooted out. After that, no other batsman's crease lasted long. The match could have been drawn if England had collected as much as 350.

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December 18, 2021, 05:09:33 PM
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I am very very dissapointed with England batting performance. At 140-2 I betted my money on draw @2.00 odds as batting was looking so easy at that time and suddenly they collapsed. The way they were playing after that 3rd wicket was like a very low class team. I am very dissapointed with england perfomance. They can't survive even the whole day after the excellent first session.
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December 18, 2021, 05:48:07 PM
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I am very very dissapointed with England batting performance. At 140-2 I betted my money on draw @2.00 odds as batting was looking so easy at that time and suddenly they collapsed. The way they were playing after that 3rd wicket was like a very low class team. I am very dissapointed with england perfomance. They can't survive even the whole day after the excellent first session.

Sorry for your loss. Its because of these reasons I rearly bet on test matches. We saw similar type of situation in India/New Zealand and Pak/Bangladesh test series. Things change suddenly when one team is going so good. I don't know whether such swings are natural in cricket or someone controlling the situation? Just asking.

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December 18, 2021, 06:46:09 PM
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At least in Ashes the both are not clicking that's why England should try some other combination. I think with same mind set England dropped both of them in first Test and that proved to be a disaster because of there flop batting lineup. Anderson is already 39 years, I dont think he can go for 5 to 6 more years from here on.

Anderson may not be the perfect guy, but he has done well enough to guarantee a spot within the playing XI. Honestly I was shocked when he was dropped from the playing XI for the first test. He always maintains very good fitness levels and therefore I think that if he want, then he can go for another 5 years quite easily. And look at the younger generation bowlers like Woakes, Wood, Robinson, Mahmood and Archer. None of them are consistent. Unless they perform consistently, I guess the selectors should show adequate respect towards Anderson. 

England need quality pace attack like Australians have that can break partnerships. Right now I don't see there is anyone in there bowling lineup that can show some threat to Aussies. Likewise there batting revolves around Root only, I don't know with what intentions Haseeb was included as opener.
Is this England who is performing badly or its Australia doing too good ?
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December 18, 2021, 08:34:19 PM
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I am very very dissapointed with England batting performance. At 140-2 I betted my money on draw @2.00 odds as batting was looking so easy at that time and suddenly they collapsed. The way they were playing after that 3rd wicket was like a very low class team. I am very dissapointed with england perfomance. They can't survive even the whole day after the excellent first session.
Disappointment is natural because this was overrated series just for having some good money from TV rights, and they are successful in this case, but now people's feeling right that England is just a crap side with very bad selection and having no quality batsmen just Root is not enough for doing all things in every inning for them. Bowling is some decent but still need some good support which is not available right now just three members are good enough, all others going very poor. Anderson, Broad and Root three men Barmy Army is not having any reply for Aussies very long list of quality, and we perform players.


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December 18, 2021, 09:01:09 PM
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England too much over confidence on the strength of there team lead to such drastic performance in first two tests. On the other hand Australia didn't showed any sign of degradation in performance despite the fact there skipper had to resign just before the Ashes. Australia are truly professional, as there team never depends on few players.
England was never good and no one was feeling good about them just some hype was created by few media reports which was ended after first test result and now second test result is going to be giving them complete silent because all realizes it's just dumb team which can perform some better at home against weak sides.

And playing against Australia, India and New Zealand is completely different thing, so they fail here very badly now mostly peoples feeling this ashes is going to end with result of 5 - 0 which is not wrong because with current players and form it's surely written of the wall. Just some good rain can give them good relief from this, otherwise they are going to be completely outclass by all one off best team in current cricket game in this format.

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December 18, 2021, 10:51:22 PM
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I am very very dissapointed with England batting performance. At 140-2 I betted my money on draw @2.00 odds as batting was looking so easy at that time and suddenly they collapsed. The way they were playing after that 3rd wicket was like a very low class team. I am very dissapointed with england perfomance. They can't survive even the whole day after the excellent first session.
This is why it's always important to do your research by checking past results, home ground advantage, in-form players etc before taking such bets. Most people including me expected England to collapse since they are over-dependent on certain batsmen.

Just check this batting averages post which was shared by @JSRAW earlier in this thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5168384.msg58684953#msg58684953

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December 18, 2021, 11:26:54 PM
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I am very very dissapointed with England batting performance. At 140-2 I betted my money on draw @2.00 odds as batting was looking so easy at that time and suddenly they collapsed. The way they were playing after that 3rd wicket was like a very low class team. I am very dissapointed with england perfomance. They can't survive even the whole day after the excellent first session.
This is why it's always important to do your research by checking past results, home ground advantage, in-form players etc before taking such bets. Most people including me expected England to collapse since they are over-dependent on certain batsmen.

Just check this batting averages post which was shared by @JSRAW earlier in this thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5168384.msg58684953#msg58684953
Going through the match statistics of majority of the test matches, the first session used to be smooth and there won't be much of wicket fall. The second session used to be completely different from the first one. The ground used to change its nature with time, and how far this makes the change in the play matters. I'm not saying the ground is responsible for this, but it also have its role.

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Going through the match statistics of majority of the test matches, the first session used to be smooth and there won't be much of wicket fall. The second session used to be completely different from the first one. The ground used to change its nature with time, and how far this makes the change in the play matters. I'm not saying the ground is responsible for this, but it also have its role.
England is giving away the matches too easily, once their top order is gone especially Joe Root then they are in big trouble as their middle order performs  once in a while, even in today's match i thought England would fight back but once Joe Root lost his wicket England surrendered the match to Australia.

Before the series i thought this will be a great series but unfortunately it is a one sided trashing.
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December 19, 2021, 02:37:20 AM
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Disappointment is natural because this was overrated series just for having some good money from TV rights, and they are successful in this case, but now people's feeling right that England is just a crap side with very bad selection and having no quality batsmen just Root is not enough for doing all things in every inning for them. Bowling is some decent but still need some good support which is not available right now just three members are good enough, all others going very poor. Anderson, Broad and Root three men Barmy Army is not having any reply for Aussies very long list of quality, and we perform players.

Dude, if you want to complain about the form of England team, then it is OK. But on what basis are you claiming that the Ashes is an overrated series? I can't think about a test series that is more famous than the Ashes. All the others, including the Border-Gavaskar and the Trans-Tasman comes behind Ashes in terms of popularity and viewership. Ashes is something special. It is the oldest rivalry, existing ever since test cricket was played for the first time. There may be a few occasions where the competition was not up to the mark. But that doesn't give you an opportunity to blame the series.

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December 19, 2021, 04:28:02 AM
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Dude, if you want to complain about the form of England team, then it is OK. But on what basis are you claiming that the Ashes is an overrated series? I can't think about a test series that is more famous than the Ashes. All the others, including the Border-Gavaskar and the Trans-Tasman comes behind Ashes in terms of popularity and viewership. Ashes is something special. It is the oldest rivalry, existing ever since test cricket was played for the first time. There may be a few occasions where the competition was not up to the mark. But that doesn't give you an opportunity to blame the series.

Silverwood and Joe on SL tour after winning : Our Ashes preparation are going as planned.

Silverwood and Joe on India tour after humiliation : We need to up our game standard for the Ashes.

Silverwood and Joe in middle of NZ and Ind series : We are playing world no 1 and no2 and we couldn't ask for better preparation for the ashes.

That's how English treated every series. You never hear Aussie talking like this even when they play Bangladesh. Ashes is cash cow only because of "Oldest Rivalry" .

No one care about Trans-Tasman series, even in NZ. I suggest you should re-check your BGT's revenue, viewership figure and avoid making baseless claim.
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December 19, 2021, 05:44:29 AM
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Australia have lost 4 wickets scoring the first 100 runs of the second innings. More 100 runs will add them to a lead of 436 runs. Possibly Australia will declare with that giving opportunity for England. In the history of test cricket, the highest run chase is 418. This shows how difficult and the narrow chances of a chase by England.

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December 19, 2021, 06:12:31 AM
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Australia have lost 4 wickets scoring the first 100 runs of the second innings. More 100 runs will add them to a lead of 436 runs. Possibly Australia will declare with that giving opportunity for England. In the history of test cricket, the highest run chase is 418. This shows how difficult and the narrow chances of a chase by England.

If Australia can collect 4386runs, it will be enough for them to win. As good as the Australian bowlers are, at the same time the England batsmen are now completely irregular. With more than 400 runs targets, the match will remain under Australian control. England's players do not seem to have the capacity to score more than 400 runs at the moment.

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December 19, 2021, 06:49:57 AM
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Australia have lost 4 wickets scoring the first 100 runs of the second innings. More 100 runs will add them to a lead of 436 runs. Possibly Australia will declare with that giving opportunity for England. In the history of test cricket, the highest run chase is 418. This shows how difficult and the narrow chances of a chase by England.

If Australia can collect 4386runs, it will be enough for them to win. As good as the Australian bowlers are, at the same time the England batsmen are now completely irregular. With more than 400 runs targets, the match will remain under Australian control. England's players do not seem to have the capacity to score more than 400 runs at the moment.

I don't think Australia are fully interested in playing two session today. Seeing the batting of Travis Head, I think so. He may have forgotten it was a Test match. He collected 51 runs from 49 balls. He has hit 7 boundaries. Now Austreia is ahead by 380 runs. They will probably play half of the second season.

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December 19, 2021, 06:53:10 AM
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Quality commentary or commentator curse and epic meme content.

-Stokes always contribute immensely to this bowling line up... followed by 24 runs off 2 overs with million more no balls.
-Robinson looking dangerous today - Chad Robinson: Skol!! I'll bowl offies now.
-99% Aussie commentators (Except Punter) trying to sell Green as next Kallis.



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December 19, 2021, 07:37:51 AM
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Quality commentary or commentator curse and epic meme content.

-Stokes always contribute immensely to this bowling line up... followed by 24 runs off 2 overs with million more no balls.
-Robinson looking dangerous today - Chad Robinson: Skol!! I'll bowl offies now.
-99% Aussie commentators (Except Punter) trying to sell Green as next Kallis.



Aussies commentators are high biased specially shane warne. I always mute the volume whenever there is Australia commentator, someone please teach them how to do it neutrally. Green just played 5 test and 1 ODI, his performance is below average in all his appearances. How can you compare that crap with legendary kallis?

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December 19, 2021, 08:03:14 AM
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Australia have lost 4 wickets scoring the first 100 runs of the second innings. More 100 runs will add them to a lead of 436 runs. Possibly Australia will declare with that giving opportunity for England. In the history of test cricket, the highest run chase is 418. This shows how difficult and the narrow chances of a chase by England.
If Australia can collect 4386runs, it will be enough for them to win. As good as the Australian bowlers are, at the same time the England batsmen are now completely irregular. With more than 400 runs targets, the match will remain under Australian control. England's players do not seem to have the capacity to score more than 400 runs at the moment.
I don't think Australia are fully interested in playing two session today. Seeing the batting of Travis Head, I think so. He may have forgotten it was a Test match. He collected 51 runs from 49 balls. He has hit 7 boundaries. Now Austreia is ahead by 380 runs. They will probably play half of the second season.

Australia declared their innings after losing 9 wickets. They scored 230 runs in the second innings. They gave England a huge target of 468 runs. I don't see the possibility of England winning. However, if the opening pair is able to collect more than 150, then maybe England can win. But I don't trust their openers. Within 50 runs, maybe two openers will return to the dressing room.

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