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December 16, 2021, 05:54:19 PM
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Meanwhile, today's match is the 150th test outing for Stuart Broad. He and Jimmy Anderson are having the experience of 317 test matches between them. I really doubt whether we ever had such an experienced pace bowling duo at any time in the history of test cricket (please correct me in case I am wrong).
You are right. Both are well experienced player in test format. But their duo aren't helping England bowling lineup. Australia has collected 221 runs by losing two wickets only. Although Broad took an early wicket today, but Warner & Marnus Labuschagne made a good partnership in the second wicket.

Mark Wood is not playing (dropped), but still some confusion about Leach. If Leach is in, then it is going to be a choice between Robinson and Woakes. 
It was obvious that Leach will not be included in the final squad. He didn't bowl well in the first test match. Robinson and Woakes bowled well in the first match. So there was no reason to keep them out of the squad.

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December 16, 2021, 05:55:09 PM
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Shittt Davey!!  why why? Poor guy missed a ton again. Aus 178/2
In 2016 Mark Nicholas started this curse for David Warner in Test as he lost his century because of commentators curse as Mark Nicholas was talking about David Warner not getting out in the 90s and just then he lost his wicket in his 90s and the video is available where Shane Warne gets frustrated in the commentator booth and he is going through that patch still  Cheesy, this is the second consecutive innings Warner missing his century in Ashes tournament.

Link of that video where Mark Nicholas casting his jinx  Cheesy
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December 16, 2021, 06:19:51 PM
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At the end of the first day, Australia collected 221 runs. Lost just two wickets. Earlier in the day, Australia lost Harris' wicket. Since then, Warner and Labuschange's efficient partnership has allowed Australia to collect more than 200 runs, losing just two wickets. Warner returned to the dressing room with 95 runs. Labuschang has scored 95 runs yet is unbeaten.

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December 17, 2021, 08:42:06 AM
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James Anderson breaking the partnership picking two wickets and today Steven Smith lost his century loosing his wicket for 93 runs and now Alex Carey lost his wicket and the tail is exposed. It is a matter of time how long Australia will bat.

The way in which Travis Head lost his wicket was ridiculous, clean bowled to a full toss from Joe Root Cheesy.
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James Anderson breaking the partnership picking two wickets and today Steven Smith lost his century loosing his wicket for 93 runs and now Alex Carey lost his wicket and the tail is exposed. It is a matter of time how long Australia will bat.

The way in which Travis Head lost his wicket was ridiculous, clean bowled to a full toss from Joe Root Cheesy.
It wasn't full toss bhai but flighted delivery.

England took some quick wickets but i fear damage is already done. This English team is in shambles, now their batsmen need to climb a Everest which sounds like a hard task considering their batting performance in recent time.

Australia should bat 10-15 more overs or so just to piss them off and take some advantage of twilight condition.



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Even tail is wagging for the Australia. Debutant Michael Neser murdering the weary bowlers and fielders.

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December 17, 2021, 10:15:39 AM
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473 is a big total for the English side. They have already lost 1 wicket and I do not think it will be an easy task for them now. Australia had a bad start initially but they were able to come back. I think this match is already slipping away from the English hand. The second session is crucial for the Eng, they should not lose anymore wickets in this session.

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December 17, 2021, 10:49:39 AM
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Looks like Australia will win this 2nd match by an innings thanks to some excellent batting and bowling performances. Sad to see players like Warner(2nd time recently) and Smith missing out on well-deserved centuries.

Marnus was consistent as usual. He got really lucky thanks to Buttler though. The below article sums up his ordeal perfectly.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espncricinfo.com/story/aus-vs-eng-2nd-men-ashes-test-2021-22-jos-buttler-howler-encapsulates-england-wider-failings-1293562%3fplatform=amp

On the other hand, England already lost 2 wickets and are struggling currently. Looks like the result will be 2:0 in Australia's favor soon.

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December 17, 2021, 11:51:39 AM
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Lol this is funny stat. All these 4D chess tactics and strategy of saving Broad-Jimmy for pink ball test, their team ended up bowling 150 overs in the first inning and i should add that Aussie declared the inning, not bowled out.

Chris Woakes should play at home only, if not then let him open lol. He would do better job than Burns at the top order. Their batting averages are almost same.

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December 17, 2021, 03:21:20 PM
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I don't understand why England's players suddenly lost their form so badly. Australia scored 473 runs. England went down to bat but lost two wickets. Hameed and Burns returned to the dressing room with 6 and 4 runs respectively. We don't want to see such poor performance from an experienced team opener like England. Test matches between Australia and England have always been competitive. But the series is completely dominating Australia. Hopefully England will be able to get back to form quickly and the match will be competitive.

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December 17, 2021, 05:39:32 PM
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Lol this is funny stat. All these 4D chess tactics and strategy of saving Broad-Jimmy for pink ball test, their team ended up bowling 150 overs in the first inning and i should add that Aussie declared the inning, not bowled out.
Obviously it is a coincidence, but there are a lot of similarity between these two ashes series. That was also the second test of the series and the venue is same as well. Maybe the history is going to repeat in the same way too. Australia got a 4-0 victory in 2017. England is performing so badly now. Probably Australia will win the second test as well as the upcoming matches of this series.

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I don't understand why England's players suddenly lost their form so badly. Australia scored 473 runs. England went down to bat but lost two wickets. Hameed and Burns returned to the dressing room with 6 and 4 runs respectively. We don't want to see such poor performance from an experienced team opener like England. Test matches between Australia and England have always been competitive. But the series is completely dominating Australia. Hopefully England will be able to get back to form quickly and the match will be competitive.
Bhai this is not suddenly they are not quality players just Root and Stokes are some better all others are just useless in test cricket it's now time for England management to change their tactics and bring some better shape in county cricket for having quality cricketers otherwise they are also going down like West Indies because In England now they have some good number of Asian players those are doing better, but they are not bringing them due to some own reasons and local English peoples losing their interest into cricket which is also the biggest threat for them.

Today I was checking in Social Media too many memes and jokes about their batting specially Burns is currently main culprit for this all, hopefully we will have some better changes after lose of these Ashes.
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I don't understand why England's players suddenly lost their form so badly. Australia scored 473 runs. England went down to bat but lost two wickets. Hameed and Burns returned to the dressing room with 6 and 4 runs respectively. We don't want to see such poor performance from an experienced team opener like England. Test matches between Australia and England have always been competitive. But the series is completely dominating Australia. Hopefully England will be able to get back to form quickly and the match will be competitive.
Bhai this is not suddenly they are not quality players just Root and Stokes are some better all others are just useless in test cricket it's now time for England management to change their tactics and bring some better shape in county cricket for having quality cricketers otherwise they are also going down like West Indies because In England now they have some good number of Asian players those are doing better, but they are not bringing them due to some own reasons and local English peoples losing their interest into cricket which is also the biggest threat for them.

Today I was checking in Social Media too many memes and jokes about their batting specially Burns is currently main culprit for this all, hopefully we will have some better changes after lose of these Ashes.

England played very well in T20 World Cup. So I thought maybe now the England team has been able to solve their internal problems. But now looking at their performance, it seems that they have become more weak than before. Such a poor performance cannot be expected from the England team. Players need to be experienced and patient while performing in Test matches. The openers have to play well. When two openers get out so fast, the other players go after more pressure.

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Lol this is funny stat. All these 4D chess tactics and strategy of saving Broad-Jimmy for pink ball test, their team ended up bowling 150 overs in the first inning and i should add that Aussie declared the inning, not bowled out.

Chris Woakes should play at home only, if not then let him open lol. He would do better job than Burns at the top order. Their batting averages are almost same.


I do agree that woakes is just an over rated players. His performance in 2019 WC is the only remarkable I remember. England most of times in Ashes is down and out, as far as this test is concerned I am sure Aus will easily win it. England should look for some new talent that can replace Jimmy/Broad pair.
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I do agree that woakes is just an over rated players. His performance in 2019 WC is the only remarkable I remember. England most of times in Ashes is down and out, as far as this test is concerned I am sure Aus will easily win it. England should look for some new talent that can replace Jimmy/Broad pair.

Why do they need to replace Broad and Anderson? Anderson in particular can go on for another 5-6 years at least and can easily target 1,000 test wickets. Just because someone is young, that doesn't mean that they should replace more skilled players. In case of Woakes however, I think that the selectors need to rethink. Mark Wood maybe a better choice? I would still support going with 4 pacers, because Jack Leach looked out of sorts during the first test. Anyway, they have a part-time spin bowler in Joe Root.

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I do agree that woakes is just an over rated players. His performance in 2019 WC is the only remarkable I remember. England most of times in Ashes is down and out, as far as this test is concerned I am sure Aus will easily win it. England should look for some new talent that can replace Jimmy/Broad pair.
Why do they need to replace Broad and Anderson? Anderson in particular can go on for another 5-6 years at least and can easily target 1,000 test wickets. Just because someone is young, that doesn't mean that they should replace more skilled players. In case of Woakes however, I think that the selectors need to rethink. Mark Wood maybe a better choice? I would still support going with 4 pacers, because Jack Leach looked out of sorts during the first test. Anyway, they have a part-time spin bowler in Joe Root.
Problem is not with bowling side because combo of Anderson and Broad doing very good for last one decade, but they have not good supportive bowlers with worst batting which is creating more problems for them recently we have watched them against India and now in Australia just Root is having consistency and Malan and Stokes giving some support, but all others are just waste of energy and time because they have no talent which is question mark on their domestic system which is one of best but now no producing quality batsmen.

In Australia, we have too many options available for them like Warner, Labuschagne, Smith and Head these all are quality and have good performance in every match.

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Why do they need to replace Broad and Anderson? Anderson in particular can go on for another 5-6 years at least and can easily target 1,000 test wickets. Just because someone is young, that doesn't mean that they should replace more skilled players. In case of Woakes however, I think that the selectors need to rethink. Mark Wood maybe a better choice? I would still support going with 4 pacers, because Jack Leach looked out of sorts during the first test. Anyway, they have a part-time spin bowler in Joe Root.

At least in Ashes the both are not clicking that's why England should try some other combination. I think with same mind set England dropped both of them in first Test and that proved to be a disaster because of there flop batting lineup. Anderson is already 39 years, I dont think he can go for 5 to 6 more years from here on.
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At least in Ashes the both are not clicking that's why England should try some other combination. I think with same mind set England dropped both of them in first Test and that proved to be a disaster because of there flop batting lineup. Anderson is already 39 years, I dont think he can go for 5 to 6 more years from here on.
With his performance and quality I have no doubt that he can play some more years, he is really super fit athlete at the moment and having some very good courage for this game of cricket. But, sadly his team position is not good due to very poor selection in batting line-up and having no better and quality back up bowlers those can give some good replacement on the crucial time of game.

In last few years they are facing serious batting issue which is not resolved with strange circumstance's, and they have few very unprofessional batsmen in their current batting line-up which are creating problems for them just like Burns who is completely failure in this series with many meme's and joke having fit on him around the cricket world.

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At least in Ashes the both are not clicking that's why England should try some other combination. I think with same mind set England dropped both of them in first Test and that proved to be a disaster because of there flop batting lineup. Anderson is already 39 years, I dont think he can go for 5 to 6 more years from here on.

Anderson may not be the perfect guy, but he has done well enough to guarantee a spot within the playing XI. Honestly I was shocked when he was dropped from the playing XI for the first test. He always maintains very good fitness levels and therefore I think that if he want, then he can go for another 5 years quite easily. And look at the younger generation bowlers like Woakes, Wood, Robinson, Mahmood and Archer. None of them are consistent. Unless they perform consistently, I guess the selectors should show adequate respect towards Anderson. 

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After losing two wickets for just 12 runs yesterday, now England's collection is 92 runs. England have not lost any wickets. As long as Root and Malan are at the crease, I will have confidence in England. If the pair break up before 150 runs, then England will not be able to collect 400 runs. Today is the third day. Most likely this match is more likely to be a draw.

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December 18, 2021, 06:01:35 AM
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After losing two wickets for just 12 runs yesterday, now England's collection is 92 runs. England have not lost any wickets. As long as Root and Malan are at the crease, I will have confidence in England. If the pair break up before 150 runs, then England will not be able to collect 400 runs. Today is the third day. Most likely this match is more likely to be a draw.
This session clearly belongs to England.

Both Root and Malan need to bat 1.5 more session to pull their team out of this mess. Wicket is not doing much atm so they are good to go for now at least but if by any chance Australia gets a breakthrough, their tail would be up and Aussie bowlers will lick their chops with shaky english middle order.

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