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June 05, 2022, 10:01:04 AM
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. ..Looks so.. At this point, I would say that England has a 75% chance of winning this match. For New Zealand it is going to be hard, but not impossible if Kyle Jamieson and Trent Boult manages to get a couple of quick wickets. As I pointed out, England is having a very long tail for this match. Even the fall of one wicket in the first few overs will put them under a lot of pressure. However at this point, they are batting sensibly. Joe Root is scoring the runs, while Ben Foakes is playing defensively and engaging in mind games against the Kiwi bowlers.

I think England will win this match quite comfortably as they need just 61 runs and important thing is Root is still on the pitch. With 5 wickets in hands it won't be that difficult. It's a disappointing performance from NZ batsmen throughout this test and that's why they are losing this game. 
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June 05, 2022, 10:05:44 AM
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I think England has a very good chance of winning this match now. At least the odds look better compared to how they have started the innings. But the first session the next day is going to be very crucial for both teams I think. That period is going to be the decider of the match in my opinion. If New Zealand can get some quick wickets, they will be able to win the match but I think England has a lot of time and there will play really carefully so that they can win the match.
Looks so.. At this point, I would say that England has a 75% chance of winning this match. For New Zealand it is going to be hard, but not impossible if Kyle Jamieson and Trent Boult manages to get a couple of quick wickets. As I pointed out, England is having a very long tail for this match. Even the fall of one wicket in the first few overs will put them under a lot of pressure. However at this point, they are batting sensibly. Joe Root is scoring the runs, while Ben Foakes is playing defensively and engaging in mind games against the Kiwi bowlers.

England currently needs 60 runs to win. I think it is not going to be hard at all if they just don't lose wickets. But we all know that at the start of the day almost anything can happen. Joe Root was playing very well yesterday and I believe he will be able to continue. I believe he has to be there at the end of the innings if they want to win.


I would still say that the chances of both winning this match are equal. Because in New Zealand's batting we saw that after breaking the partnership of Daryl Mitchell and Tom Blundell, New Zealand was able to collect only 34 runs. Daryl Mitchell was dismissed for 251 and New Zealand's innings ended at 285. I don't think England can win today if Root and Foakes are out early in the day. There is no reason for New Zealand bowlers to feel weak.

Yes, I also agree but the New Zealand bowlers will have to put pressure on both the batsmen that are in the middle right now. And I don't think England is going to be under pressure because they have all the time in the world to score the remaining 60 runs.
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June 05, 2022, 10:12:38 AM
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Yes, I also agree but the New Zealand bowlers will have to put pressure on both the batsmen that are in the middle right now. And I don't think England is going to be under pressure because they have all the time in the world to score the remaining 60 runs.

Root is there and he need to score 60 runs with 5 batsmen available on the other side. It won't be difficult unless England made some silly mistakes. Day 4 play is in progress and now England need 52 more runs and still 5 wickets in hands. Good batting comeback from England.
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June 05, 2022, 10:31:04 AM
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England needs 40 runs for a win, with 5 wickets in hand. And Joe Root needs another 13 runs to reach two milestones - century in this innings, and 10,000 runs in test cricket. He is batting on 87 now (9987 test runs in total). I would love to see Root getting to his hundred, but not sure whether he will be able to do that. Foakes just stepped up his scoring rate and he looks determined to finish the proceedings within the next 30 minutes or so. New Zealand had such a dream start to this test, and still they will end up losing this match.

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June 05, 2022, 12:33:34 PM
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Root's heroic ton seals victory for England against New Zealand. No doubt about his class, he's passed 10k runs also winning a test for his country. This is an unbelievable rebound, captain Stokes and coach McCullum era begins with a splendid triumph. We've seen astonishing test match, wickets appeared to improve from day 2 onwards that empowered England to won on day 4. Congrats to Root and England.
All thanks to Root and Potts the English side one the first test out of three. Newzealand lost the match because of poor batting. I never expected them to get wiped out by just getting a lead of 277 runs. These two Mitchell and Blundell were batting so good that I assumed they will stay on the pitch the next day till they both help Newzealand getting a good lead of more than 300 runs. They lost because the batters were not able to handle the pitch. Looking forward to the next test match.

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June 05, 2022, 01:50:36 PM
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England needs 40 runs for a win, with 5 wickets in hand. And Joe Root needs another 13 runs to reach two milestones - century in this innings, and 10,000 runs in test cricket. He is batting on 87 now (9987 test runs in total). I would love to see Root getting to his hundred, but not sure whether he will be able to do that. Foakes just stepped up his scoring rate and he looks determined to finish the proceedings within the next 30 minutes or so. New Zealand had such a dream start to this test, and still they will end up losing this match.

Responsible innings from Root and Ben foakes. It's a much needed victory for England after a miserable Ashes and WI tour. Newzealand is a good side don't know what happen with them in first test. May be Newzealand have not adopted the England conditions. They have 2 matches to bounce back.

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June 05, 2022, 02:04:38 PM
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All thanks to Root and Potts the English side one the first test out of three. Newzealand lost the match because of poor batting. I never expected them to get wiped out by just getting a lead of 277 runs. These two Mitchell and Blundell were batting so good that I assumed they will stay on the pitch the next day till they both help Newzealand getting a good lead of more than 300 runs. They lost because the batters were not able to handle the pitch. Looking forward to the next test match.
Joe Root really deserves the credit for this victory. But New Zealand hasn't lost the match for their poor batting performance. The pitch wasn't friendly for batting. And new ball was helping the fast bowlers to make the swing perfectly. We have also seen the collapse of England batting lineup in the first innings. Day 4 started with the old ball. As a result, the fast bowlers weren't able to make much variance in their bowling. A new ball could have changed the game. England lost their first 4 wickets quickly in the second innings. Then they turned the game on their favour with the batting performance of Joe Root and Ben Stokes.

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June 05, 2022, 02:27:27 PM
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All thanks to Root and Potts the English side one the first test out of three. Newzealand lost the match because of poor batting. I never expected them to get wiped out by just getting a lead of 277 runs. These two Mitchell and Blundell were batting so good that I assumed they will stay on the pitch the next day till they both help Newzealand getting a good lead of more than 300 runs. They lost because the batters were not able to handle the pitch. Looking forward to the next test match.
Joe Root really deserves the credit for this victory. But New Zealand hasn't lost the match for their poor batting performance. The pitch wasn't friendly for batting. And new ball was helping the fast bowlers to make the swing perfectly. We have also seen the collapse of England batting lineup in the first innings. Day 4 started with the old ball. As a result, the fast bowlers weren't able to make much variance in their bowling. A new ball could have changed the game. England lost their first 4 wickets quickly in the second innings. Then they turned the game on their favour with the batting performance of Joe Root and Ben Stokes.
I was rooting for the Kiwis throughout this test match because it's more fun when BIG-3 lose the match due to meltdown.

Having said that, Rooty is continuing with his dream form, youngest guy to reach 10k runs along with Cook is not easy feat in any way, although Poms play tons of Test match every year so it's manageable for talented ones. I used to criticise him a lot due to his conversion rate but after so many years this guy is going strong and i wish he continue to serve the test cricket for at least next 3-4 years.
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June 05, 2022, 03:19:51 PM
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All thanks to Root and Potts the English side one the first test out of three. Newzealand lost the match because of poor batting. I never expected them to get wiped out by just getting a lead of 277 runs. These two Mitchell and Blundell were batting so good that I assumed they will stay on the pitch the next day till they both help Newzealand getting a good lead of more than 300 runs. They lost because the batters were not able to handle the pitch. Looking forward to the next test match.
Joe Root really deserves the credit for this victory. But New Zealand hasn't lost the match for their poor batting performance. The pitch wasn't friendly for batting. And new ball was helping the fast bowlers to make the swing perfectly. We have also seen the collapse of England batting lineup in the first innings. Day 4 started with the old ball. As a result, the fast bowlers weren't able to make much variance in their bowling. A new ball could have changed the game. England lost their first 4 wickets quickly in the second innings. Then they turned the game on their favour with the batting performance of Joe Root and Ben Stokes.
I was rooting for the Kiwis throughout this test match because it's more fun when BIG-3 lose the match due to meltdown.

Having said that, Rooty is continuing with his dream form, youngest guy to reach 10k runs along with Cook is not easy feat in any way, although Poms play tons of Test match every year so it's manageable for talented ones. I used to criticise him a lot due to his conversion rate but after so many years this guy is going strong and i wish he continue to serve the test cricket for at least next 3-4 years.

I think Root is one batsman from England who has really played consistently for the team without being dropped or anything. If you see English cricket history there have been a lot of good batsmen but all of them had been great for just some time in their career but Root who is barely 31 at this point in time can really become an English Legend, having Said that I doubt NZ  gave a tough competition to Eng it was just Root who made them Win
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All thanks to Root and Potts the English side one the first test out of three. Newzealand lost the match because of poor batting. I never expected them to get wiped out by just getting a lead of 277 runs. These two Mitchell and Blundell were batting so good that I assumed they will stay on the pitch the next day till they both help Newzealand getting a good lead of more than 300 runs. They lost because the batters were not able to handle the pitch. Looking forward to the next test match.
Joe Root really deserves the credit for this victory. But New Zealand hasn't lost the match for their poor batting performance. The pitch wasn't friendly for batting. And new ball was helping the fast bowlers to make the swing perfectly. We have also seen the collapse of England batting lineup in the first innings. Day 4 started with the old ball. As a result, the fast bowlers weren't able to make much variance in their bowling. A new ball could have changed the game. England lost their first 4 wickets quickly in the second innings. Then they turned the game on their favour with the batting performance of Joe Root and Ben Stokes.
I was rooting for the Kiwis throughout this test match because it's more fun when BIG-3 lose the match due to meltdown.

Having said that, Rooty is continuing with his dream form, youngest guy to reach 10k runs along with Cook is not easy feat in any way, although Poms play tons of Test match every year so it's manageable for talented ones. I used to criticise him a lot due to his conversion rate but after so many years this guy is going strong and i wish he continue to serve the test cricket for at least next 3-4 years.

I think Root is one batsman from England who has really played consistently for the team without being dropped or anything. If you see English cricket history there have been a lot of good batsmen but all of them had been great for just some time in their career but Root who is barely 31 at this point in time can really become an English Legend, having Said that I doubt NZ  gave a tough competition to Eng it was just Root who made them Win
Do not forget the bowlers, they were the highlight performers for the first two days and once New Zealand missed the opportunity to score a good lead, the match was in the balance and then the odds started to change and i wanted to place a bet on England but skipped knowing their first innings collapse and England won the match without loosing a wicket today.
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All thanks to Root and Potts the English side one the first test out of three. Newzealand lost the match because of poor batting. I never expected them to get wiped out by just getting a lead of 277 runs. These two Mitchell and Blundell were batting so good that I assumed they will stay on the pitch the next day till they both help Newzealand getting a good lead of more than 300 runs. They lost because the batters were not able to handle the pitch. Looking forward to the next test match.
Joe Root really deserves the credit for this victory. But New Zealand hasn't lost the match for their poor batting performance. The pitch wasn't friendly for batting. And new ball was helping the fast bowlers to make the swing perfectly. We have also seen the collapse of England batting lineup in the first innings. Day 4 started with the old ball. As a result, the fast bowlers weren't able to make much variance in their bowling. A new ball could have changed the game. England lost their first 4 wickets quickly in the second innings. Then they turned the game on their favour with the batting performance of Joe Root and Ben Stokes.
I was rooting for the Kiwis throughout this test match because it's more fun when BIG-3 lose the match due to meltdown.
Having said that, Rooty is continuing with his dream form, youngest guy to reach 10k runs along with Cook is not easy feat in any way, although Poms play tons of Test match every year so it's manageable for talented ones. I used to criticise him a lot due to his conversion rate but after so many years this guy is going strong and i wish he continue to serve the test cricket for at least next 3-4 years.
I think Root is one batsman from England who has really played consistently for the team without being dropped or anything. If you see English cricket history there have been a lot of good batsmen but all of them had been great for just some time in their career but Root who is barely 31 at this point in time can really become an English Legend, having Said that I doubt NZ  gave a tough competition to Eng it was just Root who made them Win
Do not forget the bowlers, they were the highlight performers for the first two days and once New Zealand missed the opportunity to score a good lead, the match was in the balance and then the odds started to change and i wanted to place a bet on England but skipped knowing their first innings collapse and England won the match without loosing a wicket today.

If New Zealand could have given more than 300 targets, they could have won the match. With the exception of Daryl Mitchell and Tom Blundell, no other player in the New Zealand squad has played well. The rest of the batsmen could not stay at the crease for long after the fall of New Zealand's fifth wicket. On the other hand, Root and Foakes performed very well. If the New Zealand bowlers had been able to take wickets early in the fourth day, perhaps the match would have been under their control.

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What a game, 141 runs in the first innings and winning the match by 5 wickets is really a big thing. Even in the second innings England lost 5 wickets for 159 runs. If a wicket have fallen New Zealand would've taken a chance. It was Joe Root and Foakes were the key person, because even when one is scoring the other end needs to give support. Foakes did it perfectly and the match have got over in the first session of day 4. Anyhow England have got some home ground advantage, because even with a new ball wicket haven't fallen in today's session.

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Foakes played a very important role yesterday. If he was not there, then things would have got difficult for England. Because their tail was very long. But he played responsibly and provided good support for Joe Root. New Zealand bowlers on the other hand failed once more while playing under pressure. And this is true especially in the case of Kyle Jamieson. I have noticed that he loses his length and rhythm, as soon as things doesn't go as expected. New Zealand are now up by 1-0, but two more matches remain in this series. 

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June 06, 2022, 04:42:39 AM
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Foakes played a very important role yesterday. If he was not there, then things would have got difficult for England. Because their tail was very long. But he played responsibly and provided good support for Joe Root. New Zealand bowlers on the other hand failed once more while playing under pressure. And this is true especially in the case of Kyle Jamieson. I have noticed that he loses his length and rhythm, as soon as things doesn't go as expected. New Zealand are now up by 1-0, but two more matches remain in this series. 
With 5 wickets in hand, England easily chased down the total. At one point, however, it seemed that the visiting team had the upper hand. New Zealand's dream is shattered by a solid partnership between Root and new wicket-keeper batsmen Ben Foakes. In this series there are still two matches to be played, so it may be possible to restore balance soon. It would be nice if England won to silence New Zealand.
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All thanks to Root and Potts the English side one the first test out of three. Newzealand lost the match because of poor batting. I never expected them to get wiped out by just getting a lead of 277 runs. These two Mitchell and Blundell were batting so good that I assumed they will stay on the pitch the next day till they both help Newzealand getting a good lead of more than 300 runs. They lost because the batters were not able to handle the pitch. Looking forward to the next test match.
Joe Root really deserves the credit for this victory. But New Zealand hasn't lost the match for their poor batting performance. The pitch wasn't friendly for batting. And new ball was helping the fast bowlers to make the swing perfectly. We have also seen the collapse of England batting lineup in the first innings. Day 4 started with the old ball. As a result, the fast bowlers weren't able to make much variance in their bowling. A new ball could have changed the game. England lost their first 4 wickets quickly in the second innings. Then they turned the game on their favour with the batting performance of Joe Root and Ben Stokes.
I was rooting for the Kiwis throughout this test match because it's more fun when BIG-3 lose the match due to meltdown.

Having said that, Rooty is continuing with his dream form, youngest guy to reach 10k runs along with Cook is not easy feat in any way, although Poms play tons of Test match every year so it's manageable for talented ones. I used to criticise him a lot due to his conversion rate but after so many years this guy is going strong and i wish he continue to serve the test cricket for at least next 3-4 years.

I think Root is one batsman from England who has really played consistently for the team without being dropped or anything. If you see English cricket history there have been a lot of good batsmen but all of them had been great for just some time in their career but Root who is barely 31 at this point in time can really become an English Legend, having Said that I doubt NZ  gave a tough competition to Eng it was just Root who made them Win
Not commenting on last match's perspective but solely Batriarchy.

He's still behind Cook for at least 2500 runs and i believe he's not going to break his own record ever (last year God-Like form), he might score 700-900ish run per calendar as England play more than 20 tests but surely it won't be 2020-21 Root. Having said that if he keeps playing for next 4-5 years with same form (which is tough af) then he'll be consider legend.

Same thing happened with Kohli, Smith, Williamson. All of them touched new heights (especially Kohli and Smith) and peaked drastically and now going down in their career. Babar-Marnus should lead this decade as far as test cricket goes.  
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June 06, 2022, 02:34:54 PM
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Foakes played a very important role yesterday. If he was not there, then things would have got difficult for England. Because their tail was very long. But he played responsibly and provided good support for Joe Root. New Zealand bowlers on the other hand failed once more while playing under pressure. And this is true especially in the case of Kyle Jamieson. I have noticed that he loses his length and rhythm, as soon as things doesn't go as expected. New Zealand are now up by 1-0, but two more matches remain in this series. 
With 5 wickets in hand, England easily chased down the total. At one point, however, it seemed that the visiting team had the upper hand. New Zealand's dream is shattered by a solid partnership between Root and new wicket-keeper batsmen Ben Foakes. In this series there are still two matches to be played, so it may be possible to restore balance soon. It would be nice if England won to silence New Zealand.

One of the biggest reasons why they won the match was because they had all the time in hand. So, the New Zealand bowling lineup could not possibly rush them into scoring faster. And that's what the England batsman did. They took their sweet time scoring the 61 runs. And it was very important that they did not lose any early wickets because that could have made things turn around in the match. Before the match started I actually expected England to win but after the collapse, I thought New Zealand might have a chance.

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Not commenting on last match's perspective but solely Batriarchy.

He's still behind Cook for at least 2500 runs and i believe he's not going to break his own record ever (last year God-Like form), he might score 700-900ish run per calendar as England play more than 20 tests but surely it won't be 2020-21 Root. Having said that if he keeps playing for next 4-5 years with same form (which is tough af) then he'll be consider legend.

Same thing happened with Kohli, Smith, Williamson. All of them touched new heights (especially Kohli and Smith) and peaked drastically and now going down in their career. Babar-Marnus should lead this decade as far as test cricket goes.  

About test cricket, I am really not sure at all what is going to happen because these players are obviously great test players and there is no doubt about that. But the problem is I think we might see less and less test matches being played in the future. Because test cricket is not doing really great even though a lot of people are going to say otherwise. And whatever ICC has tried did not work.

They have said that the test world championship and also the nighttime test cricket is going to make it more popular but that did not happen. I was a little interested in Pink Ball cricket but honestly, I don't have the time to watch test cricket and I think that is the case for a lot of people.

I said all those things because no one knows what is going to happen in the next 4 or 5 years.

By the way, I think obviously, it is going to be hard for him to break his own record but it is obviously not impossible. If he can play really well in the next 5 years I think he will be considered a legend but I honestly don't see that happening.

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Not commenting on last match's perspective but solely Batriarchy.

He's still behind Cook for at least 2500 runs and i believe he's not going to break his own record ever (last year God-Like form), he might score 700-900ish run per calendar as England play more than 20 tests but surely it won't be 2020-21 Root. Having said that if he keeps playing for next 4-5 years with same form (which is tough af) then he'll be consider legend.

Same thing happened with Kohli, Smith, Williamson. All of them touched new heights (especially Kohli and Smith) and peaked drastically and now going down in their career. Babar-Marnus should lead this decade as far as test cricket goes.  

About test cricket, I am really not sure at all what is going to happen because these players are obviously great test players and there is no doubt about that. But the problem is I think we might see less and less test matches being played in the future. Because test cricket is not doing really great even though a lot of people are going to say otherwise. And whatever ICC has tried did not work.

They have said that the test world championship and also the nighttime test cricket is going to make it more popular but that did not happen. I was a little interested in Pink Ball cricket but honestly, I don't have the time to watch test cricket and I think that is the case for a lot of people.

I said all those things because no one knows what is going to happen in the next 4 or 5 years.

By the way, I think obviously, it is going to be hard for him to break his own record but it is obviously not impossible. If he can play really well in the next 5 years I think he will be considered a legend but I honestly don't see that happening.
Virtually no doubts among fans be it anti kohli etc or not.

Yes i agree on overall sentiment that, from next decade or so only few countries will play the test match/ long series (4-5 test match/ BIG 3). Smaller board can hardly sustain the big series, 99% of times it's loss making series unless they are up against big-3.

I like to believe that it's better if we play longer format of game among few countries but at the same time i want 16-20 or 24 teams wc.
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June 06, 2022, 04:53:10 PM
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With 5 wickets in hand, England easily chased down the total. At one point, however, it seemed that the visiting team had the upper hand. New Zealand's dream is shattered by a solid partnership between Root and new wicket-keeper batsmen Ben Foakes. In this series there are still two matches to be played, so it may be possible to restore balance soon. It would be nice if England won to silence New Zealand.

Test cricket can defiantly revive if we have interesting test matches like this where 20 wickets fell on one single day. From New zeland side only Mitchel and Tom Blundell were the two batsmen who score runs rest of the batting line up collapsed in both teams. Result of the match would be in favor of New zeland if they have lead of 50 more runs.

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June 06, 2022, 06:05:26 PM
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Test cricket can defiantly revive if we have interesting test matches like this where 20 wickets fell on one single day. From New zeland side only Mitchel and Tom Blundell were the two batsmen who score runs rest of the batting line up collapsed in both teams. Result of the match would be in favor of New zeland if they have lead of 50 more runs.
It basically becomes a T-20 or ODI at that point which is why Test Cricket will continue dying in my opinion. Was never really a fan of tests to be honest which is why I won't miss them.

ODIs are also becoming less relevant and they might die at some point in the future too. Both these formats will probably be completely replaced by T-10 and T-20 formats which would be a great change overall.

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