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July 02, 2023, 04:37:10 PM
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Australia made an incredible comeback.They beat England by 43 runs. In short they snatched the victory from England. After Stokes got out England's batting order collapsed and that's what Australia wanted. I said earlier that as long as Stokes is at the crease, no one can beat England. But Australia's bowlers are very quick. Put England under pressure by taking 3 wickets. Stokes was breathing down Australia's neck while Stokes was at the crease and the win was all England's side. Enjoyed another thrilling match in this Ashes series. Australia lead 2-0 in the five match series which is disappointing for England. Congratulations Australia to the team. Australia team proved themselves why they are the champion team in Tests.
I have already predicted that Australia will beat England and will lose by a high margin. Australia beat England but only by 43 runs. It's a big gap though but I expected more. However, Australia have managed to maintain their standard of play.  This is one of their great virtues. Australia plays well in T20, ODI, Test because their players are very smart and can adapt themselves in all fields. I admire and support them a lot

Australia 2-0 in the Ashes.

Since Australia made 416 runs in the first innings and got a big lead, everyone was expecting Australia to win this test match. However, Ben Stokes did give England hope but his efforts were not enough for England to win and level the series. England now has to seriously think about how to tackle this Australian team, They can't afford another test loss as then it will be all over for this year's Ashes.

Even though English lost the match, I am still surprised by the fact that they went so close to the target even after losing early wickets yesterday. But yes need to rethink the approach losing continuously at home is a big problem. Bazball will also come into a big question after this for sure. I think the bowling some how need to step up in critical situations to actually make a difference.
English lost the match or England Huh  England's game performance was not bad either. In the first innings, England was behind Australia by higher runs, but in the second innings, England scored more runs than Australia, but still England could not close the run gap between the two teams. Despite England being a much weaker team than Australia, they played much better and almost managed to complete the target set by Australia, but lost wickets and fail to fulfill at the last minute.
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July 02, 2023, 05:05:00 PM
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English lost the match or England Huh  England's game performance was not bad either. In the first innings, England was behind Australia by higher runs, but in the second innings, England scored more runs than Australia, but still England could not close the run gap between the two teams. Despite England being a much weaker team than Australia, they played much better and almost managed to complete the target set by Australia, but lost wickets and fail to fulfill at the last minute.
Wait, what? When I saw the scorecard last time, England needed 76 runs, and they had four wickets in hand. Ben was hitting some massive six, and I thought this was the day for England. Ben Stokes alone fought against the Aussies. Ben Duckett played well as well. But, the rest of the batting lineup of England showed some poor performance.

Congratulations Aussies! Hazlewood got the most crucial wicket. Hazlewood took both Ben Duckett's and Ben Stokes's wickets. Ben Duckett played well in both innings. Yet he failed to win because of his other team mates! Better luck next time.

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July 02, 2023, 05:05:41 PM
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Australia made an incredible comeback.They beat England by 43 runs. In short they snatched the victory from England. After Stokes got out England's batting order collapsed and that's what Australia wanted. I said earlier that as long as Stokes is at the crease, no one can beat England. But Australia's bowlers are very quick. Put England under pressure by taking 3 wickets. Stokes was breathing down Australia's neck while Stokes was at the crease and the win was all England's side. Enjoyed another thrilling match in this Ashes series. Australia lead 2-0 in the five match series which is disappointing for England. Congratulations Australia to the team. Australia team proved themselves why they are the champion team in Tests.
I have already predicted that Australia will beat England and will lose by a high margin. Australia beat England but only by 43 runs. It's a big gap though but I expected more. However, Australia have managed to maintain their standard of play.  This is one of their great virtues. Australia plays well in T20, ODI, Test because their players are very smart and can adapt themselves in all fields. I admire and support them a lot
Australia 2-0 in the Ashes.
Since Australia made 416 runs in the first innings and got a big lead, everyone was expecting Australia to win this test match. However, Ben Stokes did give England hope but his efforts were not enough for England to win and level the series. England now has to seriously think about how to tackle this Australian team, They can't afford another test loss as then it will be all over for this year's Ashes.
Even though English lost the match, I am still surprised by the fact that they went so close to the target even after losing early wickets yesterday. But yes need to rethink the approach losing continuously at home is a big problem. Bazball will also come into a big question after this for sure. I think the bowling some how need to step up in critical situations to actually make a difference.
English lost the match or England Huh  England's game performance was not bad either. In the first innings, England was behind Australia by higher runs, but in the second innings, England scored more runs than Australia, but still England could not close the run gap between the two teams. Despite England being a much weaker team than Australia, they played much better and almost managed to complete the target set by Australia, but lost wickets and fail to fulfill at the last minute.

Although England scored 2 more runs in the second innings than in the first innings, still I would say that England played better in the first innings than in the second innings. In the second innings, England's Ben Duckett and Ben Stokes, no other batsmen can bat well. It is not possible to win a match depending on the performance of only two batsmen. Like the first match, we did not get a good performance from the England batsmen in the second match as well. The England team is not as strong as it used to be in the Test format.

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July 02, 2023, 05:56:23 PM
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Although England scored 2 more runs in the second innings than in the first innings, still I would say that England played better in the first innings than in the second innings. In the second innings, England's Ben Duckett and Ben Stokes, no other batsmen can bat well. It is not possible to win a match depending on the performance of only two batsmen. Like the first match, we did not get a good performance from the England batsmen in the second match as well. The England team is not as strong as it used to be in the Test format.

Jonny Bairstow was unlucky to get out in that fashion, if he had stayed with Stokes on pitch then England might have won the game. Top class performance from Stokes once again, he played his part but there was no other to join him. Australia are 2-0 up in the series and best England can do now is to avoid another Whitewash in ashes. If England continue to play like that it will be very easy for Australia to win this series.
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July 02, 2023, 06:31:17 PM
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It looked like Stokes would pull off another miracle just like way back in 2019, but that wasn't the case as I predicted since miracles happen extremely rarely. Smith dropping him earlier scared a lot of people.

I feel that the true game-changing moment was Bairstow throwing away his wicket in a bizarre manner. Looks like Australia is all set to retain the Ashes.
The team lost the match, but the performance from Stokes won hearts. Stokes could've won the match for England, because all his efforts have wasted. Stokes performance is something common and it isn't something unexpected. I was surprised by the performance of Stuart Broad. Once Stokes wicket fell, everything collapsed and Broad was caught out. The unwanted loss of Bairstow wicket is the major reason for today's match loss for England. Already it is like the series is won by Australia.

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July 02, 2023, 08:21:56 PM
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Although England scored 2 more runs in the second innings than in the first innings, still I would say that England played better in the first innings than in the second innings. In the second innings, England's Ben Duckett and Ben Stokes, no other batsmen can bat well. It is not possible to win a match depending on the performance of only two batsmen. Like the first match, we did not get a good performance from the England batsmen in the second match as well. The England team is not as strong as it used to be in the Test format.
In the 2nd innings of the second test match England team players Zak Crawley, Ollie Pope, Harry Brook, Stuart Broad and Jonny Bairstow none of them performed well. In any team most of the players doesn't have any contribution then nothing shouldn't be expected in that match. None of the mentioned names could cover 15 runs. A good match between Ben Duckett and Ben Stokes raised hopes. But in the end they lost the match. Australia won the match by 43 runs in the 2nd Test.

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July 03, 2023, 12:22:21 AM
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English lost the match or England Huh  England's game performance was not bad either. In the first innings, England was behind Australia by higher runs, but in the second innings, England scored more runs than Australia, but still England could not close the run gap between the two teams. Despite England being a much weaker team than Australia, they played much better and almost managed to complete the target set by Australia, but lost wickets and fail to fulfill at the last minute.
Wait, what? When I saw the scorecard last time, England needed 76 runs, and they had four wickets in hand. Ben was hitting some massive six, and I thought this was the day for England. Ben Stokes alone fought against the Aussies. Ben Duckett played well as well. But, the rest of the batting lineup of England showed some poor performance.

Congratulations Aussies! Hazlewood got the most crucial wicket. Hazlewood took both Ben Duckett's and Ben Stokes's wickets. Ben Duckett played well in both innings. Yet he failed to win because of his other team mates! Better luck next time.

Ben Stokes scored 155 alone. No one can actually blame himself for the loss of the England team. But I will be honest when he was scoring light of that. I also thought it was going to be a day for England. But in the end, it was a little too much for Ben Stokes to do. Just for comparison England, as a team scored 327 and Ben Stokes along with Ben Duckett, only both of them scored almost, 240. The whole team actually let them down. Otherwise, this was a great chance for them to get a win against the Australian team. And I am not saying that about the lower-order batsmen. I am saying that about the top order absolutely failed.

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July 03, 2023, 03:39:07 AM
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Ben Stokes scored 155 alone. No one can actually blame himself for the loss of the England team. But I will be honest when he was scoring light of that. I also thought it was going to be a day for England. But in the end, it was a little too much for Ben Stokes to do. Just for comparison England, as a team scored 327 and Ben Stokes along with Ben Duckett, only both of them scored almost, 240. The whole team actually let them down. Otherwise, this was a great chance for them to get a win against the Australian team. And I am not saying that about the lower-order batsmen. I am saying that about the top order absolutely failed.
Sometimes bad things happen. But, when the full team joins the failure, what you can do as a captain? Of course, they did not do anything willingly. They tried what they can do. But, England top order batters could be more responsible as in the first innings. If you notice, they did well in their first batting innings. From middle order to lower order failed to contribute to their scoreboard.

However, the team cannot expect batting performance from lower-order batters. But, it's a failure of the top-order batters in the 2nd innings. They lost their last four wickets within the last thirty runs.

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July 03, 2023, 04:22:32 AM
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English lost the match or England Huh  England's game performance was not bad either. In the first innings, England was behind Australia by higher runs, but in the second innings, England scored more runs than Australia, but still England could not close the run gap between the two teams. Despite England being a much weaker team than Australia, they played much better and almost managed to complete the target set by Australia, but lost wickets and fail to fulfill at the last minute.
Wait, what? When I saw the scorecard last time, England needed 76 runs, and they had four wickets in hand. Ben was hitting some massive six, and I thought this was the day for England. Ben Stokes alone fought against the Aussies. Ben Duckett played well as well. But, the rest of the batting lineup of England showed some poor performance.
Congratulations Aussies! Hazlewood got the most crucial wicket. Hazlewood took both Ben Duckett's and Ben Stokes's wickets. Ben Duckett played well in both innings. Yet he failed to win because of his other team mates! Better luck next time.
Ben Stokes scored 155 alone. No one can actually blame himself for the loss of the England team. But I will be honest when he was scoring light of that. I also thought it was going to be a day for England. But in the end, it was a little too much for Ben Stokes to do. Just for comparison England, as a team scored 327 and Ben Stokes along with Ben Duckett, only both of them scored almost, 240. The whole team actually let them down. Otherwise, this was a great chance for them to get a win against the Australian team. And I am not saying that about the lower-order batsmen. I am saying that about the top order absolutely failed.

I will blame their top-order batsmen for England's defeat. After losing 4 experienced top-order batsmen for 45 runs, batting at a target of 371 runs, victory was almost impossible. However, due to the responsible batting of Ben Duckett and Ben Stokes, England managed to collect more than 300. Such a poor performance was not expected from England's batsmen in such an important match. England lost the match due to a poor performance in the last session of the fourth day. But the performance of the English bowlers was quite good.

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July 03, 2023, 04:38:45 AM
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Although England scored 2 more runs in the second innings than in the first innings, still I would say that England played better in the first innings than in the second innings. In the second innings, England's Ben Duckett and Ben Stokes, no other batsmen can bat well. It is not possible to win a match depending on the performance of only two batsmen. Like the first match, we did not get a good performance from the England batsmen in the second match as well. The England team is not as strong as it used to be in the Test format.
Jonny Bairstow was unlucky to get out in that fashion, if he had stayed with Stokes on pitch then England might have won the game. Top class performance from Stokes once again, he played his part but there was no other to join him. Australia are 2-0 up in the series and best England can do now is to avoid another Whitewash in ashes. If England continue to play like that it will be very easy for Australia to win this series.
No doubt this was turning point of this match as Jonny Baristow's bonus wicket give Australian win in this match and England face another defeat even their performance was better in both innings but still they need to work on their batting which is having problems and their top order is not giving them good support which is important.

Ben Stokes play one of the best inning which is his trademark, and surely he deserves some praise even lost this match and now trailing in this series by 0 - 2 now in third test which is going to start on Thursday they need to work on their top order and having better runs which help them for having good target for the visitors their long time problem spin department is also needing to be settled which is very important.

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July 03, 2023, 05:28:05 AM
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Losing two Test matches in a row is a big failure for England. England used to play very well but now England have lost their form. England has come under criticism after losing two consecutive team matches to Australia. England will have to think again to win the match against Australia. Australia played very well in the second Test.  Actually this win was deserved in Australia. Hope Australia will do much better in the upcoming matches
Win and lose are part of the game but in these two test matches we have good fight from both sides as Australia were dominating in all departments which give them success in both test matches and now most chances they will win this series as well their batsmen are doing right job on right time and three top class bowlers are also giving them good backup in last inning they were missing their veteran spinner Nathan Lyon but others still done good job and bowled out England for the win.

England is having long time batting issues which need to be fixed, but they fail to bring good handy batsmen which give them good consistent performance, and they are able to have better performance against top teams with their newly adopted strategy Bazball which was working against weaker sides but not working against Australian top quality bowling.
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English lost the match or England Huh  England's game performance was not bad either. In the first innings, England was behind Australia by higher runs, but in the second innings, England scored more runs than Australia, but still England could not close the run gap between the two teams. Despite England being a much weaker team than Australia, they played much better and almost managed to complete the target set by Australia, but lost wickets and fail to fulfill at the last minute.
Wait, what? When I saw the scorecard last time, England needed 76 runs, and they had four wickets in hand. Ben was hitting some massive six, and I thought this was the day for England. Ben Stokes alone fought against the Aussies. Ben Duckett played well as well. But, the rest of the batting lineup of England showed some poor performance.

Congratulations Aussies! Hazlewood got the most crucial wicket. Hazlewood took both Ben Duckett's and Ben Stokes's wickets. Ben Duckett played well in both innings. Yet he failed to win because of his other team mates! Better luck next time.

Ben Stokes scored 155 alone. No one can actually blame himself for the loss of the England team. But I will be honest when he was scoring light of that. I also thought it was going to be a day for England. But in the end, it was a little too much for Ben Stokes to do. Just for comparison England, as a team scored 327 and Ben Stokes along with Ben Duckett, only both of them scored almost, 240. The whole team actually let them down. Otherwise, this was a great chance for them to get a win against the Australian team. And I am not saying that about the lower-order batsmen. I am saying that about the top order absolutely failed.

Another match of this series was lost to England. England needed just 90 runs to win with Ben Stokes at the wicket when England had four wickets. Ben Stokes was unbeaten on 145 runs at that time so I thought maybe England will win this match if Ben Stokes can play with responsibility but in the end Ben Stokes failed to finish the game even though he kept the hope of winning for a long time. After the dismissal of Ben Stokes, no other batsman could score as many runs as England lost another match against Australia by a narrow margin. By winning this match, Australia took a 2-0 lead in The Ashes series. Now this series has become very difficult for England. Because England must not win three of the last three matches, they will lose this series.

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July 03, 2023, 12:13:27 PM
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Another match of this series was lost to England. England needed just 90 runs to win with Ben Stokes at the wicket when England had four wickets. Ben Stokes was unbeaten on 145 runs at that time so I thought maybe England will win this match if Ben Stokes can play with responsibility but in the end Ben Stokes failed to finish the game even though he kept the hope of winning for a long time. After the dismissal of Ben Stokes, no other batsman could score as many runs as England lost another match against Australia by a narrow margin. By winning this match, Australia took a 2-0 lead in The Ashes series. Now this series has become very difficult for England. Because England must not win three of the last three matches, they will lose this series.

Hopes were high till the time stokes was on the crease, when he got out England needed 70 runs to win. Stoke was the lonely warrior in second innings. Jonny Bairstow got out in bizarre manner otherwise England might have won the match. England should do something in upcoming matches to restrict Aussies from winning all 5 matches. Aussies from here are looking unstoppable.
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Lol! Just found out that Bairstow tried running out Marnus in a similar manner thanks to footage provided by the Australian media which just goes to show that the English are proper hypocrites.

He threw away his wicket at such a critical juncture of the game which is why the blame should only fall on Bairstow alone.

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July 03, 2023, 02:06:06 PM
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Ben Stokes scored 155 alone. No one can actually blame himself for the loss of the England team. But I will be honest when he was scoring light of that. I also thought it was going to be a day for England. But in the end, it was a little too much for Ben Stokes to do. Just for comparison England, as a team scored 327 and Ben Stokes along with Ben Duckett, only both of them scored almost, 240. The whole team actually let them down. Otherwise, this was a great chance for them to get a win against the Australian team. And I am not saying that about the lower-order batsmen. I am saying that about the top order absolutely failed.
Sometimes bad things happen. But, when the full team joins the failure, what you can do as a captain? Of course, they did not do anything willingly. They tried what they can do. But, England top order batters could be more responsible as in the first innings. If you notice, they did well in their first batting innings. From middle order to lower order failed to contribute to their scoreboard.
However, the team cannot expect batting performance from lower-order batters. But, it's a failure of the top-order batters in the 2nd innings. They lost their last four wickets within the last thirty runs.

England was just a little too inconsistent with the top order. If the top order had a little more consistency, I think the match was there to win. But the co-founder of England failed. And of course, cricket is a team game. Ben Stokes alone is not going to be enough every day.

I will blame their top-order batsmen for England's defeat. After losing 4 experienced top-order batsmen for 45 runs, batting at a target of 371 runs, victory was almost impossible. However, due to the responsible batting of Ben Duckett and Ben Stokes, England managed to collect more than 300. Such a poor performance was not expected from England's batsmen in such an important match. England lost the match due to a poor performance in the last session of the fourth day. But the performance of the English bowlers was quite good.

Of course, England should have done better with the top order. Only two players actually performed so well that only a little bit of help could have actually got them the win. But the England team was not able to do that. But anyway, to be honest, no one actually thought that they are going to actually win. It was the effort of Ben Stokes that actually got them close.

Another match of this series was lost to England. England needed just 90 runs to win with Ben Stokes at the wicket when England had four wickets. Ben Stokes was unbeaten on 145 runs at that time so I thought maybe England will win this match if Ben Stokes can play with responsibility but in the end Ben Stokes failed to finish the game even though he kept the hope of winning for a long time. After the dismissal of Ben Stokes, no other batsman could score as many runs as England lost another match against Australia by a narrow margin. By winning this match, Australia took a 2-0 lead in The Ashes series. Now this series has become very difficult for England. Because England must not win three of the last three matches, they will lose this series.

This match was really hard for England to win. But the first match was actually easier. Because of some dumb decisions taken by England, they lost the first test match. I honestly cannot say that in the second test match, they had everything going for them. But there was certainly a chance.

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July 03, 2023, 05:36:15 PM
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Looks like Lyon has been ruled out of the rest of the series which is a huge blow considering the fact that he was their best bowler alongside Cummins. Murphy will replace him and he has big shoes to fill.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/3565125

This could actually prove to be a big advantage for the English since he is a relatively inexperienced bowler and he bowls slowly. Let's see what happens.

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July 03, 2023, 05:49:40 PM
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Lol! Just found out that Bairstow tried running out Marnus in a similar manner thanks to footage provided by the Australian media which just goes to show that the English are proper hypocrites.

He threw away his wicket at such a critical juncture of the game which is why the blame should only fall on Bairstow alone.

It was absolutely in the laws. The ball was not dead, and he shouldn’t have left the crease at the time like that. And of course, the decision that was taken by the third umpire was correct. There is no justification for him to live in the crease and trying to have a heated argument with the bowler.

I actually don’t understand why there is so much talk about this thing. He did something stupid and he paid the price for it. I understand that there was a lot of emotion going through his head and he got a little carried away.

But he should have at least put his bat in the popping crease once and given a signal to the umpire that he was going to leave. If he did that it wouldn’t have been a question that he should be not out. But of course, you cannot just leave without saying anything and expect the result to go in your way. It’s just like they say, “fuck around =find out “

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It was absolutely in the laws. The ball was not dead, and he shouldn’t have left the crease at the time like that. And of course, the decision that was taken by the third umpire was correct. There is no justification for him to live in the crease and trying to have a heated argument with the bowler.

I actually don’t understand why there is so much talk about this thing. He did something stupid and he paid the price for it. I understand that there was a lot of emotion going through his head and he got a little carried away.

But he should have at least put his bat in the popping crease once and given a signal to the umpire that he was going to leave. If he did that it wouldn’t have been a question that he should be not out. But of course, you cannot just leave without saying anything and expect the result to go in your way. It’s just like they say, “fuck around =find out “

Everyone is saying that decision about dismissal of Jonny Bairstow is correct. I agree that he must have placed his bat back in crease before moving out of the crease. It was crucial part of the game and Jonny must be careful at that part of the game. Overall its not an impressive performance from England team once again and they deserve to lose this game. There strategy to go out and attack opposite bowling like in ODI and T20 is paying them heavily in this series.
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July 03, 2023, 06:02:09 PM
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Lol! Just found out that Bairstow tried running out Marnus in a similar manner thanks to footage provided by the Australian media which just goes to show that the English are proper hypocrites.

He threw away his wicket at such a critical juncture of the game which is why the blame should only fall on Bairstow alone.
Invent a game, write a rule book and when someone follows the rules. Scream about the spirit of the game and cry like a baby.  Grin

I don't understand how tough is to stay in the crease, be it striker or nonstriker. A big virtue signals came from Stokes, McCullum and Broad.

Ironically 1 won the WC for his team because of the hilarious rule. Back in the day, the second one denied the ton to Sangakkara by running out his partner Murli (he was celebrating), after retirement, he apologized to Sanga. Last but not least Broady, he refused to walk out when he had edged a ball and was caught by slip.
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Jonny Bairstow was unlucky to get out in that fashion, if he had stayed with Stokes on pitch then England might have won the game.
Yeh absolutely Bairstow sudden and unbelievable runout or some call it stump almost nailed it England defeat because if some how they both manage to build partnership then Thier victory were confirmed, no doubt stokes scored some decent by it self by but after his dismissal Bairstow will be the only player which can Carry on the momentum but unfortunately it not,  Some how in this second match defeat top order were responsible because in such a high target chasedown they didn't add good figure of runs which cut down mountains of difficulties for middle order.

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