ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

[coinism]

They is no way Pakistan are going to tour England Australia or South Africa and expect any competition  .
 

We should think and focus on some matches and series between Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Pakistan and Afghanistan. We have enough talent to attract the media / advertisers and money.

If every Cricket board and franchise could attract huge advertisement, let them make the money they aspire and if that can be used to improve cricket so be it.

I don't know what you are talking about. In 2021, Pakistan toured SA and won T20 series 4-1 and ODI series 2-1. Pakistan will tour SA as SA is touring Pakistan, Moreover Pakistan completely outclassed India in there last T20 encounter. Pakistan is no doubt one of the strongest team in Cricket world. India rivalry doesn't Pakistan side is weak.

[og kush420]

I think the big 3 will continue playing amount themselves they have already been doing. They would not include Pakistan as then they won't be able to absorb the Pakistani victories. 

We have PSL and KPL to take some breath away from IPL and in the midterm, you will see PSL gaining more popularity.

We should think and focus on some matches and series between Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Pakistan and Afghanistan. We have enough talent to attract the media / advertisers and money.

The only reason why countries are not playing with Pakistan is there rivalry with India. Aus and England are now coming to Pakistan in year 2022 along with NZ. Its very hard to eliminate Pakistan from cricket since they have one of the best T20 team. Also they have the potential to beat any team at any place. 

[JSRAW]

BCCI is everything but delusional and bloody damn good when it comes to money printing scheme so they would focus on IPL only. BCCI will continue to play bilateral series tho but if things go really south then worst case scenario would be PIG 3 playing each other and in longer run Pakistan too.

If i'm not wrong then Sithara is pointing fingers towards IPL only, after all that's where BCCI earns money and if everything goes well with India's overall economy in next 10 years then i would say IPL going to explode real good. BCCI will add more teams for sure and will add more billions of dollars in their piggy bank, IPL media rights in value already surpassed the all ICC tournament rights combined. Watch out for upcoming media bidding, according to my reading its going break all previous records.

Apart from the IPL, the state-level leagues such as the Tamil Nadu Premier League (TNPL), T20 Mumbai League and the Karnataka Premier League also have the potential to bring big bucks for the BCCI. So far they have ignored this sector, and have imposed a lot of restrictions (ban on foreign players and even players from other state associations for example). Another new revenue source could be the WIPL. We have debated about this a lot, so I am going to skip. A third proposal is to start a second-division league, comprising of tier-2 and tier-3 cities (such as Raipur, Jammu, Guwahati.etc).

Sorry, i don't know much about state leagues so can't add anything useful in conversation but hope its not some amateur level league? WIPL is crucial for women cricket in India. I hope someone knock some sense into BCCI.

Squad for ODI series

-Rohit is injured so KL Rahul is leading the Indian team.

[Swordsoffreedom]

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Squad for ODI series

-Rohit is injured so KL Rahul is leading the Indian team.

Rohit being injured is very unfortunate for India. But nevertheless, after their disappointing T20 WC run, hope they will bounce back again against South Africa.

Team India looks quite solid in the bowling department and I think Virat and Rahul will have to play an important role in the batting department.

Overall SA is a very well team-oriented squad and as always they are very good in the fielding department. I'm hoping for a very competitive series and I'm eagerly waiting for some close thrilling matches. I Hope Rahul will do good in the captaincy role.

[GbitG]

I think the big 3 will continue playing amount themselves they have already been doing. They would not include Pakistan as then they won't be able to absorb the Pakistani victories. 

We have PSL and KPL to take some breath away from IPL and in the midterm, you will see PSL gaining more popularity.

We should think and focus on some matches and series between Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Pakistan and Afghanistan. We have enough talent to attract the media / advertisers and money.

The only reason why countries are not playing with Pakistan is there rivalry with India. Aus and England are now coming to Pakistan in year 2022 along with NZ. Its very hard to eliminate Pakistan from cricket since they have one of the best T20 team. Also they have the potential to beat any team at any place. 

Few peoples have dumb minds, and they are completely biased when they think about Pakistan because they are still feeling shame when they lost against Pakistan as they give their explanations without any authentic analysis currently just Australia, New Zealand and India are big teams in quality England is completely crap as they need some overhaul for having good comeback from these recent defeats which is not easy. Pakistan is currently most exciting and unpredictable team with every one want to watch and play but due to some good propaganda they hesitate to come in Pakistan, hopefully in next few years things will more clear and all teams will be able to visit Pakistan.

[UmerIdrees]

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I think the big 3 will continue playing amount themselves they have already been doing. They would not include Pakistan as then they won't be able to absorb the Pakistani victories.  

May be that is the reason Pakistan needs to play Sri Lanka, Afghanistan and Bangladesh and they can tour West Indies because we can see competitive matches. They is no way Pakistan are going to tour England Australia or South Africa and expect any competition  .
 

Look like the miserable and insulting defeat of India in T20 World Cup and Under-19 WC by Pakistan has some negative effect on your mind as you think that Pakistan can't match the competition with the big 3.  Open your eyes and see the recent performance of your beloved England. Even Bangladesh and Srilanka will beat them as they are showing some poor performances.

[Theones]

Few peoples have dumb minds, and they are completely biased when they think about Pakistan because they are still feeling shame when they lost against Pakistan as they give their explanations without any authentic analysis currently just Australia, New Zealand and India are big teams in quality England is completely crap as they need some overhaul for having good comeback from these recent defeats which is not easy. Pakistan is currently most exciting and unpredictable team with every one want to watch and play but due to some good propaganda they hesitate to come in Pakistan, hopefully in next few years things will more clear and all teams will be able to visit Pakistan.

I am a big fan of Pakistan cricket they have produced great players in the past and right now they have some finest players in the side.  Big three have commercialized cricket and they are controlling cricket on there own desires which is bad for small boards.

[JSRAW]

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Squad for ODI series

-Rohit is injured so KL Rahul is leading the Indian team.

Rohit being injured is very unfortunate for India. But nevertheless, after their disappointing T20 WC run, hope they will bounce back again against South Africa.

Team India looks quite solid in the bowling department and I think Virat and Rahul will have to play an important role in the batting department.

Overall SA is a very well team-oriented squad and as always they are very good in the fielding department. I'm hoping for a very competitive series and I'm eagerly waiting for some close thrilling matches. I Hope Rahul will do good in the captaincy role.

Kohli is waiting for his 71st century, 2 years and counting 

Don't know why they included Bumrah, he could use some rest. The way he's performing in Tests, he's national treasure, in fact he should be covered in wool by the BCCI and may be give him $1-2 million worth of extra contract so that he can play only in tests and WC, no need to waste his energy on bilateral limited cricket.

[og kush420]

Look like the miserable and insulting defeat of India in T20 World Cup and Under-19 WC by Pakistan has some negative effect on your mind as you think that Pakistan can't match the competition with the big 3.  Open your eyes and see the recent performance of your beloved England. Even Bangladesh and Srilanka will beat them as they are showing some poor performances.

England was too strong in T20 don't know what happen in Ashes. May be they are too confident of win against Aussies, who were underdog in this series. If you wanna win big in Ashes then bet on Australia, they will surely whitewash this over rated English team.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Kohli is waiting for his 71st century, 2 years and counting 

Don't know why they included Bumrah, he could use some rest. The way he's performing in Tests, he's national treasure, in fact he should be covered in wool by the BCCI and may be give him $1-2 million worth of extra contract so that he can play only in tests and WC, no need to waste his energy on bilateral limited cricket.

Your point is valid. Bumrah is an asset to Indian cricket. So, the board can give him some rest from time to time and a fresh Bumrah would be more lethal than a tired one for sure. He is the best pacer for India in all 3 formats in my opinion and the board needs to play him carefully so that he doesn't get injured or burned out.

And I hope Kohli gets his long-awaited century, it has been quite a long since his last ton.

[galambo]

Kohli is waiting for his 71st century, 2 years and counting 

Don't know why they included Bumrah, he could use some rest. The way he's performing in Tests, he's national treasure, in fact he should be covered in wool by the BCCI and may be give him $1-2 million worth of extra contract so that he can play only in tests and WC, no need to waste his energy on bilateral limited cricket.

Are you serious? Man Jasprit Jasbirsingh Bumrah is just 28 years old and has played only 25 Tests so far. first he has long way to prove he is a national treasurer or not. Secondly, there is no need for such young player to be preserve for specific format. let him play till his 35 then we can think about that.

[lixer]

Kohli is waiting for his 71st century, 2 years and counting 

Don't know why they included Bumrah, he could use some rest. The way he's performing in Tests, he's national treasure, in fact he should be covered in wool by the BCCI and may be give him $1-2 million worth of extra contract so that he can play only in tests and WC, no need to waste his energy on bilateral limited cricket.

Look like now kohli is going to have his next 100+ at home due to injury. KL Rahul first time having captain batch look like not good for him as team fail to do good performance I am feeling even Rahane is not performing but still good in captaincy, so he deserves this spot for this match.

Here I agree with you about Bumrah but sadly BCCI is having some serious greediness which is not helping their players because they are having some good money and have no heart like ECB which is doing very good with Anderson and Broad these both having very good record in test matches even team is not doing good so BCCI also need to think in this way and give rest for South African ODI's, but sadly they are not serious about career of a great bowler like him.

[galambo]

Look like now kohli is going to have his next 100+ at home due to injury. KL Rahul first time having captain batch look like not good for him as team fail to do good performance I am feeling even Rahane is not performing but still good in captaincy, so he deserves this spot for this match.

Kohli is having toughest time of his career. He is removed from captaincy and now under pressure not able to score runs. I think it will be a matter of time after which he will regain his form and start performing well again. Can anyone tell how much tests he has played in last 2 years?

[mm2543363580]

Look like now kohli is going to have his next 100+ at home due to injury. KL Rahul first time having captain batch look like not good for him as team fail to do good performance I am feeling even Rahane is not performing but still good in captaincy, so he deserves this spot for this match.

Kohli is having toughest time of his career. He is removed from captaincy and now under pressure not able to score runs. I think it will be a matter of time after which he will regain his form and start performing well again. Can anyone tell how much tests he has played in last 2 years?

I think row between Ganguly and Kohli. They both have played there part and its the Indian cricket who has to suffer because of this conflict. BCCI did wrong by removing there ODI and T20 captain in such manner. Kohli is not performing, its because of this pressure or he is not interested in playing?

[GbitG]

Look like now kohli is going to have his next 100+ at home due to injury. KL Rahul first time having captain batch look like not good for him as team fail to do good performance I am feeling even Rahane is not performing but still good in captaincy, so he deserves this spot for this match.

Kohli is having toughest time of his career. He is removed from captaincy and now under pressure not able to score runs. I think it will be a matter of time after which he will regain his form and start performing well again. Can anyone tell how much tests he has played in last 2 years?

I think row between Ganguly and Kohli. They both have played there part and its the Indian cricket who has to suffer because of this conflict. BCCI did wrong by removing there ODI and T20 captain in such manner. Kohli is not performing, its because of this pressure or he is not interested in playing?

This is nature because mostly few players have good impact on teams if they have trouble or something injury It's bring down confidence of team as well same happening in Indian squad they were on top sometime back and suddenly one wrong decision from BCCI now they are having many other wrong things appearing in front so better they need to settle then as soon as possible now with injury of Rohit Sharma another below for them in South African tour many good batsmen are not in good form, so hopefully they will do better way for end of this tour and next home series against West Indies.

[Sithara007]

I think row between Ganguly and Kohli. They both have played there part and its the Indian cricket who has to suffer because of this conflict. BCCI did wrong by removing there ODI and T20 captain in such manner. Kohli is not performing, its because of this pressure or he is not interested in playing?

During 90s (when I was a kid), I used to be a die-hard fan of Ganguly. At least compared to the other players at that time (Sachin, Dravid.etc), Ganguly was known for his aggressiveness. He even had some issues with the national team coach, when he was the captain. Now Kohli is another player who is well known for his aggressive behavior. But the difference between Ganguly and Kohli is that the former never crossed the line and always maintained the protocol, while the latter blatantly violated it as per his will. IMO, Kohli needs to be blamed for his arrogance and that probably resulted in the ongoing issues with Ganguly and the other officials.

[coinism]

During 90s (when I was a kid), I used to be a die-hard fan of Ganguly. At least compared to the other players at that time (Sachin, Dravid.etc), Ganguly was known for his aggressiveness. He even had some issues with the national team coach, when he was the captain. Now Kohli is another player who is well known for his aggressive behavior. But the difference between Ganguly and Kohli is that the former never crossed the line and always maintained the protocol, while the latter blatantly violated it as per his will. IMO, Kohli needs to be blamed for his arrogance and that probably resulted in the ongoing issues with Ganguly and the other officials.

Kohli has achieved so much because of BCCI. I heard that "MRF" his sponsor of bat pay him 1 billion Indian rupees annually for putting sticker on his bat (correct me if I am wrong). Don't know what other sponsors pay him. Even if BCCI has removed him from captaincy there was no point in giving such statesmen, as he is still part of the team.

[Swordsoffreedom]

I think row between Ganguly and Kohli. They both have played there part and its the Indian cricket who has to suffer because of this conflict. BCCI did wrong by removing there ODI and T20 captain in such manner. Kohli is not performing, its because of this pressure or he is not interested in playing?

During 90s (when I was a kid), I used to be a die-hard fan of Ganguly. At least compared to the other players at that time (Sachin, Dravid.etc), Ganguly was known for his aggressiveness. He even had some issues with the national team coach, when he was the captain. Now Kohli is another player who is well known for his aggressive behavior. But the difference between Ganguly and Kohli is that the former never crossed the line and always maintained the protocol, while the latter blatantly violated it as per his will. IMO, Kohli needs to be blamed for his arrogance and that probably resulted in the ongoing issues with Ganguly and the other officials.

In my opinion, a player or captain having an aggressive approach is okay but there is always a line and it should never be crossed.

As you said, Ganguly never crossed that line but Virat did so. Now that he has been removed from the captaincy role, I think that necessary actions can be taken against him for past actions or anything he does in the future. Once again, aggression sometimes helps on the ground but a player should never break the protocol or do such stuff that might humiliate another staff or person.

[noormcs5]

Kohli is waiting for his 71st century, 2 years and counting  

Don't know why they included Bumrah, he could use some rest. The way he's performing in Tests, he's national treasure, in fact he should be covered in wool by the BCCI and may be give him $1-2 million worth of extra contract so that he can play only in tests and WC, no need to waste his energy on bilateral limited cricket.

Are you serious? Man Jasprit Jasbirsingh Bumrah is just 28 years old and has played only 25 Tests so far. first he has long way to prove he is a national treasurer or not. Secondly, there is no need for such young player to be preserve for specific format. let him play till his 35 then we can think about that.

You failed to understand the point here. Since he is a national treasure, its better to play him in the key matches which matter the most. Even though he is in his young age of 28 but in sports injuries can come anytime irrespective of age. It's not that he will be exhausted by continuous play, it's only to save him from unforeseen injuries and use him when India needs him most.

[Sithara007]

In my opinion, a player or captain having an aggressive approach is okay but there is always a line and it should never be crossed.

As you said, Ganguly never crossed that line but Virat did so. Now that he has been removed from the captaincy role, I think that necessary actions can be taken against him for past actions or anything he does in the future. Once again, aggression sometimes helps on the ground but a player should never break the protocol or do such stuff that might humiliate another staff or person.

A lot of rumors are circulating about Virat's absence in playing XI for the second test. Some say that he refused to play to show his displeasure against Ganguly and the BCCI. If there is any truth in this, then he is digging his own grave. No one is indispensable in the Indian team and a lot of talented youngsters are waiting for their chances. If someone like Venkatesh Iyer comes in the place of Kohli and performs well, then it will be extremely difficult for him to get back in to the squad. His fans are going to make a lot of noise for a few days, but in due course that will die down.