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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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November 09, 2023, 06:24:32 AM
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I guess during that live event there are gamblers who thinks  that converged can still catch up and snatched the game, but it didn't happen as blackwater secure their first win in this season.

I guess they didn't understand that Converge already go their key players (Ahanmisi and Teng), so this team now is not the same anymore, they lose to Blackwater who is one of the worse team in the PBA, that's a bad sign that they don't have a good future waiting for them, eventually this team will be sold again as the owner/s are not willing to invest on quality players.

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November 09, 2023, 11:27:49 AM
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I guess during that live event there are gamblers who thinks  that converged can still catch up and snatched the game, but it didn't happen as blackwater secure their first win in this season.

I guess they didn't understand that Converge already go their key players (Ahanmisi and Teng), so this team now is not the same anymore, they lose to Blackwater who is one of the worse team in the PBA, that's a bad sign that they don't have a good future waiting for them, eventually this team will be sold again as the owner/s are not willing to invest on quality players.

I don't think that they will sell the franchise, they lose because in basketball there players who got an off night and for sure they will bounce back, besides they are still adjusting to their new players, the chemistry is not there yet but eventually everything will be fine. Its just that Blackwater was lucky that almost everything they threw, went in. Just a note that Converge hired Willie Miller as one of their assistant coach so they are serious in their campaign in the PBA.

Games for tomorrow:

Dyip vs NorthPort (4:00 PM)
NLEX vs Phoenix (8:00 PM)

No odds yets, let's yet tomorrow for that.
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November 09, 2023, 12:24:32 PM
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I guess during that live event there are gamblers who thinks  that converged can still catch up and snatched the game, but it didn't happen as blackwater secure their first win in this season.

I guess they didn't understand that Converge already go their key players (Ahanmisi and Teng), so this team now is not the same anymore, they lose to Blackwater who is one of the worse team in the PBA, that's a bad sign that they don't have a good future waiting for them, eventually this team will be sold again as the owner/s are not willing to invest on quality players.

I don't think that they will sell the franchise, they lose because in basketball there players who got an off night and for sure they will bounce back, besides they are still adjusting to their new players, the chemistry is not there yet but eventually everything will be fine. Its just that Blackwater was lucky that almost everything they threw, went in. Just a note that Converge hired Willie Miller as one of their assistant coach so they are serious in their campaign in the PBA.

I believe the days are long gone when teams not owned by SMB and TNT could compete at a high level. The thing is, these big teams like SMB and TNT can afford to pay top players attractive salaries, which often leaves the smaller teams with more mediocre players. As a result, their chances of winning don't stack up as well against teams composed of superstars.

Take SMB, for example. We can see that they've gathered players who were previously leading their former teams, including names like Romeo, Jeron Teng, Jericho Cruz, Perez, CJ, and Vic Manuel.

Games for tomorrow:

Dyip vs NorthPort (4:00 PM)
NLEX vs Phoenix (8:00 PM)

No odds yets, let's yet tomorrow for that.

Yes, odds aren't available yet but i'm guessing, Northport and NLEX would be the favorites to win in their respective games.

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November 09, 2023, 01:18:34 PM
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Yes, odds aren't available yet but i'm guessing, Northport and NLEX would be the favorites to win in their respective games.

Northport might be the favorite, but when it comes to NLEX against Phoenix, I'm not so sure. Phoenix is a solid team, although they might not be as strong as SMB and Ginebra. I was actually planning to place some bets on the PBA and NBA, but there's a hitch—I don't feel like withdrawing my Bitcoin right now because of the high transaction fees.

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November 09, 2023, 01:29:43 PM
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Yes, odds aren't available yet but i'm guessing, Northport and NLEX would be the favorites to win in their respective games.

Northport might be the favorite, but when it comes to NLEX against Phoenix, I'm not so sure. Phoenix is a solid team, although they might not be as strong as SMB and Ginebra. I was actually planning to place some bets on the PBA and NBA, but there's a hitch—I don't feel like withdrawing my Bitcoin right now because of the high transaction fees.
This is kind of strange. Betting odds should already be available by now, but I've checked the gambling sites I use, and none of them have posted odds for the games tomorrow. I'm not sure what's causing this delay, but I have a feeling they'll be up tomorrow morning.


What about you guys? What alternatives are you exploring at this time?

That's a problem now if your funds is in your bitcoin wallet, as per https://mempool.emzy.de/.. the high priority is over $6. Shocked

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November 09, 2023, 11:34:01 PM
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I guess during that live event there are gamblers who thinks  that converged can still catch up and snatched the game, but it didn't happen as blackwater secure their first win in this season.

I guess they didn't understand that Converge already go their key players (Ahanmisi and Teng), so this team now is not the same anymore, they lose to Blackwater who is one of the worse team in the PBA, that's a bad sign that they don't have a good future waiting for them, eventually this team will be sold again as the owner/s are not willing to invest on quality players.

That's the problem if converge will decide to sell the team and another farm team will be able to bought it, then we will expect that either SMC or MVP will take charge,  there's no balance anymore maybe the reason why converge doesn't like to waste their money, or maybe they already part of the farm team which only hiding behind a good company name.

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November 10, 2023, 04:23:43 AM
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Are you guys waiting for the betting odds on the later games? Check this out:

DYIP (+3.5) vs. Batang Pier (-3.5) = 215.5 (Total)
Road Warriors (-3.5) vs. Phoenix Fuel Masters (+3.5) = 211.5 (Total)

The first game is at 4:00 PM, and the next game is at 8:00 PM. Share your thoughts on these games now.  Cheesy
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November 10, 2023, 05:21:12 AM
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I guess during that live event there are gamblers who thinks  that converged can still catch up and snatched the game, but it didn't happen as blackwater secure their first win in this season.

I guess they didn't understand that Converge already go their key players (Ahanmisi and Teng), so this team now is not the same anymore, they lose to Blackwater who is one of the worse team in the PBA, that's a bad sign that they don't have a good future waiting for them, eventually this team will be sold again as the owner/s are not willing to invest on quality players.

That's the problem if converge will decide to sell the team and another farm team will be able to bought it, then we will expect that either SMC or MVP will take charge,  there's no balance anymore maybe the reason why converge doesn't like to waste their money, or maybe they already part of the farm team which only hiding behind a good company name.

That's my suspicion because it seems like this team isn't so aggressive in improving their lineup. Before they bought it, it was an Alaska team that went to the finals and won championships in the past. In fact, I remember Tim Cone when he was the head coach of Alaska, and they were doing great back then. Calvin, Casio, and Manuel—these are the players I remember who were playing well for the team. But if I recall correctly, Tim Cone wasn't their coach anymore.

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November 10, 2023, 08:01:25 AM
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Are you guys waiting for the betting odds on the later games? Check this out:

DYIP (+3.5) vs. Batang Pier (-3.5) = 215.5 (Total)
Road Warriors (-3.5) vs. Phoenix Fuel Masters (+3.5) = 211.5 (Total)

The first game is at 4:00 PM, and the next game is at 8:00 PM. Share your thoughts on these games now.  Cheesy

Just bet for NorthPort -3.5 @1.93 vs DYIP. Though Stephen Holt will be making his debut against NorthPort which i think that he will struggle at first adjusting to the kind of play of the PBA. The PBA is known to be physical so i think as usual they will succumb to the more talented guys of NorthPort. For me, Holt will be a force which will help DYIP but not on this game, maybe a few more games then we can see his true value to the team, i hope i'm correct on my speculation on this one hehe.
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November 10, 2023, 01:21:53 PM
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Are you guys waiting for the betting odds on the later games? Check this out:

DYIP (+3.5) vs. Batang Pier (-3.5) = 215.5 (Total)
Road Warriors (-3.5) vs. Phoenix Fuel Masters (+3.5) = 211.5 (Total)

The first game is at 4:00 PM, and the next game is at 8:00 PM. Share your thoughts on these games now.  Cheesy

Just bet for NorthPort -3.5 @1.93 vs DYIP. Though Stephen Holt will be making his debut against NorthPort which i think that he will struggle at first adjusting to the kind of play of the PBA. The PBA is known to be physical so i think as usual they will succumb to the more talented guys of NorthPort. For me, Holt will be a force which will help DYIP but not on this game, maybe a few more games then we can see his true value to the team, i hope i'm correct on my speculation on this one hehe.

Goog pick kabayan! NP win the game leading with 5 points, close game in each end of a quarters and NP shows their capability to win taking this 1st win against the DYIP, seems that you well-read how the young DYIP will perform, sweet profit kabayan! No share for the 2nd game ? hehehe..

R.Rivero's first game, upon checking he already got 7 points not bad for his debut and still in the early 2nd half still have lots of time.

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November 10, 2023, 04:09:30 PM
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Are you guys waiting for the betting odds on the later games? Check this out:

DYIP (+3.5) vs. Batang Pier (-3.5) = 215.5 (Total)
Road Warriors (-3.5) vs. Phoenix Fuel Masters (+3.5) = 211.5 (Total)

The first game is at 4:00 PM, and the next game is at 8:00 PM. Share your thoughts on these games now.  Cheesy

Just bet for NorthPort -3.5 @1.93 vs DYIP. Though Stephen Holt will be making his debut against NorthPort which i think that he will struggle at first adjusting to the kind of play of the PBA. The PBA is known to be physical so i think as usual they will succumb to the more talented guys of NorthPort. For me, Holt will be a force which will help DYIP but not on this game, maybe a few more games then we can see his true value to the team, i hope i'm correct on my speculation on this one hehe.

Goog pick kabayan! NP win the game leading with 5 points, close game in each end of a quarters and NP shows their capability to win taking this 1st win against the DYIP, seems that you well-read how the young DYIP will perform, sweet profit kabayan! No share for the 2nd game ? hehehe..

R.Rivero's first game, upon checking he already got 7 points not bad for his debut and still in the early 2nd half still have lots of time.

I didn't catch the game, but it seems like Ricci Rivero is proving to be a valuable addition to the team. I read an article below praising how the young players of Phoenix contributed to a comeback from a double-digit deficit and secured a double-digit victory in the end.

Phoenix young guns torch NLEX in fourth quarter

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November 10, 2023, 08:52:17 PM
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Are you guys waiting for the betting odds on the later games? Check this out:

DYIP (+3.5) vs. Batang Pier (-3.5) = 215.5 (Total)
Road Warriors (-3.5) vs. Phoenix Fuel Masters (+3.5) = 211.5 (Total)

The first game is at 4:00 PM, and the next game is at 8:00 PM. Share your thoughts on these games now.  Cheesy

Just bet for NorthPort -3.5 @1.93 vs DYIP. Though Stephen Holt will be making his debut against NorthPort which i think that he will struggle at first adjusting to the kind of play of the PBA. The PBA is known to be physical so i think as usual they will succumb to the more talented guys of NorthPort. For me, Holt will be a force which will help DYIP but not on this game, maybe a few more games then we can see his true value to the team, i hope i'm correct on my speculation on this one hehe.

Goog pick kabayan! NP win the game leading with 5 points, close game in each end of a quarters and NP shows their capability to win taking this 1st win against the DYIP, seems that you well-read how the young DYIP will perform, sweet profit kabayan! No share for the 2nd game ? hehehe..

R.Rivero's first game, upon checking he already got 7 points not bad for his debut and still in the early 2nd half still have lots of time.

I didn't catch the game, but it seems like Ricci Rivero is proving to be a valuable addition to the team. I read an article below praising how the young players of Phoenix contributed to a comeback from a double-digit deficit and secured a double-digit victory in the end.

Phoenix young guns torch NLEX in fourth quarter

I didn't watch the game too just chech the score board but if that's what happened then it's a good start  for his career,  if he continue playing like this, chances being noticed by both SMC and MVP groups will be their knowing how good the radar of these two giant's groups,  might be cooking show behind and an intense offer that can't resist. 

Too early though,  a single game won't conclude your overall performance, but can gain attention and create good positive impressions.

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November 10, 2023, 10:54:59 PM
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I don't know why some people can't believe that Junemar still have won the MVP for the seventh time. Come on guys, the guy deserve it and we can see that there's a statistics basis for that so it's not hokus pokus that he has won it. Maybe not from the folks here in forum guys but in social medias, I have seen a lot of them can't believe on it. As for the TNT game, I agree that Mikey is really needed by them and I think that's the reason why he's also hard on the team and trying to make feel important of himself.

Sorry kabayan if I will answer you since I'm also once of those who can't believe that Abay can win that title since his performances is not in the same level from how I look at him before,  I mean yes he deserves to win and no question about that, statistics and voting might give him an edge against scottie and CStand and thays what happen he win  and he takes the award  and add the trophy to keep establishing his goat status don't get me wrong 😉 establishing means putting the big gap behind to anyone who play from this league 😉
I think the main basis was the scoring. I've seen the stats and likely the score card that was posted b some random page on facebook. It's really needed to get some revamp for such stats because there are also other good players that may deserve to win the MVP. Typically, with all of these awards comes from those winning teams and they also need to recognize those players that are from a not so good team but having a decent stats that's recognizable. Maybe soon or within the next conferences, they'll consider that but that's it, congrats to Abay.

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November 11, 2023, 04:48:22 AM
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Are you guys waiting for the betting odds on the later games? Check this out:

DYIP (+3.5) vs. Batang Pier (-3.5) = 215.5 (Total)
Road Warriors (-3.5) vs. Phoenix Fuel Masters (+3.5) = 211.5 (Total)

The first game is at 4:00 PM, and the next game is at 8:00 PM. Share your thoughts on these games now.  Cheesy

Just bet for NorthPort -3.5 @1.93 vs DYIP. Though Stephen Holt will be making his debut against NorthPort which i think that he will struggle at first adjusting to the kind of play of the PBA. The PBA is known to be physical so i think as usual they will succumb to the more talented guys of NorthPort. For me, Holt will be a force which will help DYIP but not on this game, maybe a few more games then we can see his true value to the team, i hope i'm correct on my speculation on this one hehe.

Goog pick kabayan! NP win the game leading with 5 points, close game in each end of a quarters and NP shows their capability to win taking this 1st win against the DYIP, seems that you well-read how the young DYIP will perform, sweet profit kabayan! No share for the 2nd game ? hehehe..

R.Rivero's first game, upon checking he already got 7 points not bad for his debut and still in the early 2nd half still have lots of time.

I didn't catch the game, but it seems like Ricci Rivero is proving to be a valuable addition to the team. I read an article below praising how the young players of Phoenix contributed to a comeback from a double-digit deficit and secured a double-digit victory in the end.

Phoenix young guns torch NLEX in fourth quarter

I didn't watch the game too just chech the score board but if that's what happened then it's a good start  for his career,  if he continue playing like this, chances being noticed by both SMC and MVP groups will be their knowing how good the radar of these two giant's groups,  might be cooking show behind and an intense offer that can't resist. 

Too early though,  a single game won't conclude your overall performance, but can gain attention and create good positive impressions.

It would be disheartening if he were acquired by either SMB or TNT. That would leave Phoenix as a weaker team without a scorer like him. They already faced challenges when Matthew Wright left to play overseas, so finding someone to replace him is crucial. It seems they might have found the right person in their first game of the season. At least, Ricci is quite adept at teamwork and good in sharing the ball.

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November 11, 2023, 05:32:36 AM
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It would be disheartening if he were acquired by either SMB or TNT. That would leave Phoenix as a weaker team without a scorer like him. They already faced challenges when Matthew Wright left to play overseas, so finding someone to replace him is crucial. It seems they might have found the right person in their first game of the season. At least, Ricci is quite adept at teamwork and good in sharing the ball.

He make his impact! Now he needed consistency as some of those social media vloggers are bringing that topic regarding how inconsistent Ricci was, he needs to continue showing his aggressiveness and that kind of a team playing basketball style, if he can work more with his teammates and the coaches will allow him to keep playing with longer time, I think he personally that he can be somehow the new face of this franchise.

Unless, again both SMC and MVP will ask for him and give decent offer, we can't avoid that to happen as both are dominating the league.

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November 11, 2023, 10:42:27 AM
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It would be disheartening if he were acquired by either SMB or TNT. That would leave Phoenix as a weaker team without a scorer like him. They already faced challenges when Matthew Wright left to play overseas, so finding someone to replace him is crucial. It seems they might have found the right person in their first game of the season. At least, Ricci is quite adept at teamwork and good in sharing the ball.

He make his impact! Now he needed consistency as some of those social media vloggers are bringing that topic regarding how inconsistent Ricci was, he needs to continue showing his aggressiveness and that kind of a team playing basketball style, if he can work more with his teammates and the coaches will allow him to keep playing with longer time, I think he personally that he can be somehow the new face of this franchise.

Unless, again both SMC and MVP will ask for him and give decent offer, we can't avoid that to happen as both are dominating the league.

SMC and MVP could make a tempting offer just to lure a player to join their team, but in the case of Ricci, he is still young, probably they are just making him matured and before a true scorer first, that's the time they'll try to sign him since their players will be getting older as well. I hope that does not happen though, if Ricci would love to make more money, better for him if he'll try to explore opportunities overseas, for sure he'll ern more than what SMB or MVP group could offer to him.

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November 11, 2023, 11:44:51 AM
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RHJ is back, and with him, TNT might start winning again.

TNT is currently dominating the game, outscoring Converge by a double-digit margin. I'm concerned that Converge might end up winless this season, especially considering their struggles against teams like Blackwater, let alone stronger ones like SMB, TNT, Ginebra, and others. The local players are performing well, particularly Oftana. It seems like his confidence has surged after participating in the international competition. It's interesting to note that he and RHJ, who was part of different teams that faced in the Asian Cup Finals, are now teammates and the top scorers of the team.
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RHJ is back, and with him, TNT might start winning again.

TNT is currently dominating the game, outscoring Converge by a double-digit margin. I'm concerned that Converge might end up winless this season, especially considering their struggles against teams like Blackwater, let alone stronger ones like SMB, TNT, Ginebra, and others. The local players are performing well, particularly Oftana. It seems like his confidence has surged after participating in the international competition. It's interesting to note that he and RHJ, who was part of different teams that faced in the Asian Cup Finals, are now teammates and the top scorers of the team.
It's good to see RHJ back and leading the team into a good margin, with a help of his team of course they can have a good chance to start a winning game here. TNT is a title contender, with their line up right now I'm confident that they can match the top teams and have a good run too. All they have to do is to be more consistent and sustain that good team work, good to watch PBA again after their long break.
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November 11, 2023, 12:24:54 PM
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It's good to see RHJ back and leading the team into a good margin, with a help of his team of course they can have a good chance to start a winning game here. TNT is a title contender, with their line up right now I'm confident that they can match the top teams and have a good run too. All they have to do is to be more consistent and sustain that good team work, good to watch PBA again after their long break.

Yeah, it's good to see RHJ back and right night they are ahead by 6 points with 3 minutes to go in the fourth quarter. RHJ did not score heavily here as he's got only 14 points but he got a lot of help from the locals, especially from Calvin Oftana who has now 18 points in the game.

I've read an article today that TNT has terminated the contract of Mikey Williams, so this means that he will no longer play for TNT or in the PBA, to say the least.
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It's good to see RHJ back and leading the team into a good margin, with a help of his team of course they can have a good chance to start a winning game here. TNT is a title contender, with their line up right now I'm confident that they can match the top teams and have a good run too. All they have to do is to be more consistent and sustain that good team work, good to watch PBA again after their long break.

Yeah, it's good to see RHJ back and right night they are ahead by 6 points with 3 minutes to go in the fourth quarter. RHJ did not score heavily here as he's got only 14 points but he got a lot of help from the locals, especially from Calvin Oftana who has now 18 points in the game.
And this game went to OT but TNT still manage to win the game, however, I think Converge the handicap here as it was only a 3 point win by TNT.

Oftana score 19 but Castro got 23 points here, big night for the old but goodies the blur.

I've read an article today that TNT has terminated the contract of Mikey Williams, so this means that he will no longer play for TNT or in the PBA, to say the least.

Good for him, he would not come back in the PBA anymore as he is so demanding, he shoud show his talent somewhere, probably not in the Phiilppines.



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