Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia.

[Nemo1024]

Steiner ‏@Steiner1776 · 3 min.
BREAKING! International observers consider "events" in east #Ukraine #Novorossiya as #GENOCIDE [link to lifenews.ru] pic.twitter.com/4JNfjPR9cX
http://lifenews.ru/news/141670

This one is significant.
The international observers examined the mass burials and intend to find and prosecute the responsible as war crimes do not have an end-by date.
Enorst Gronysh, an observer from Latvia, said that all thinkable conventions on conduct of war, treatment of POWs and civilian were broken, and that the case is a pure form of genocide.

[Balthazar]

Interesting article. Former prisoner accused for Bolotnaya case talks about his 9 days experience in the Ukraine.

http://ruposters.ru/archives/9286

It's in russian but I think that google translate will be enough to understand some major claims.

[247crypto]

[Pagan]

   1 US Dollar equals 39.44 Russian Ruble http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/USDRUB:CUR

Russian Stocks Enter Bear Market As Ruble Hits Record



http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2014/09-overflow/20140829_RTS_0.jpg

[Paya]

Ukrainian hooligans beating man who tried to stop them from tearing down the Lenin's monument in Kharkiv:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emk6QMVma3w

[247crypto]

Russian Stocks Enter Bear Market As Ruble Hits Record

OK for export prices.



Here is about Donbass, not about Russian Federation.

Stop flooding with off topic.

[Pagan]

We are a “pain in the neck” for Russian chauvinists, hence such panicky reaction to any of Ukraine’s attempts to “leave”. Muscovy has been obsessed about Kyiv ever since it began to move towards the establishment of the Russian Empire. This is because Ukrainian historic and cultural heritage is the foundation for Russia’s state building. You can replace the roof, the windows or the doors in a building, but you can’t replace the foundation because it will change the building altogether and make it a totally different one. Remember Putin’s slogan: “The collapse of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century.” It was that for Russia, and the imperialist-minded chauvinist that Vladimir Putin is. From the Ukrainian perspective, the collapse of the Soviet Union was the triumph of our national liberation movement. Just like the Battle of Poltava was a triumph for Russia and a tragedy for Ukraine.
Volodymyr Vasylenko
One of the most respected Ukrainian international lawyers, a diplomat, Professor at Kyiv-Mohyla Academy and Ambassador Plenipotentiary from Ukraine in the past, he was one of the people behind the Declaration of State Sovereignty of Ukraine.

source: UkrainianWeek

[247crypto]

We are a “pain in the neck” for Russian chauvinists, hence such panicky reaction to any of Ukraine’s attempts to “leave”.

Open a topic about Russian Federation and masturbate there.
Here is about Donbass.


STOP FLOODING
IN THIS TOPIC
WITH
"NEWS ABOUT
 RUSSIAN FEDERATION".

[Paya]

Open a topic about Russian Federation and masturbate there.
Here is about Donbass.

You are talking into the wind, 247crypto. That guy is, as usual, more interested in Russian internal affairs than to care about his own decaying country.

[Pagan]

Soldiers’ Graves Bear Witness to Russia’s Role in Ukraine



http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/22/world/europe/soldiers-graves-bear-witness-to-russias-role-in-ukraine.html?_r=1

[247crypto]

This guy combat with 125 000 unit Ukrainian Army?

[iCEBREAKER]

And all this Lenin-hatred is really funny, given that it was Lenin that basically created Ukraine as a state in 1917-1918

Of course most of Ukraine hates Lenin with an eternal passion.

Lenin declared the good farmers ('kulaks') to be "enemies of the people."

The ensuing collectivization of agriculture led to the mass starvation of the Holodomor.



And you think that is "really funny?"

Please DIAF.

[Balthazar]

And all this Lenin-hatred is really funny, given that it was Lenin that basically created Ukraine as a state in 1917-1918

Of course most of Ukraine hates Lenin with an eternal passion.

Lenin declared the good farmers ('kulaks') to be "enemies of the people."

The ensuing collectivization of agriculture led to the mass starvation of the Holodomor.



And you think that is "really funny?"

Please DIAF.

You're confusing the civil war and 1930s famine. During rule of Lenin's government the development of  agriculture production was increased dramatically... Pre-WW1 levels of agriculture production were reached in less than two years. Though it's not an excuse for everything which was made during the civil war.

So called Holodomor happened a long after Lenin's death, during the years of Stalin's collectivization, and wasn't unique for the Ukraine. Any "privatization" of 1930s famine is a complete disgrace for the memory of people who died across the country. There were millions of victims across Russia, Belarus and other republics.

By the way, it's funny to see that so-called Holodomor is recognized as an act of genocide by the same countries which imposed the sanctions against USSR during these years. Yes, it was an act of genocide indeed. Genocide of soviet people made by the UK, US and their allies.Do you know that UK, US and their allies refused to accept soviet gold as payment for goods in the beginning of 1930s? Massive disbalance of the economy happened as the result.

Without these stupid sanctions there won't be any famine. Pretty typical for hypocrites, put a sanctions on the country and then blame it for everything happened. And the modern ukrainian junta is working for the same forces which sanctioned their own people in the 1930s with millions of deaths as the result. It's nothing more than a blatant act of betrayal of the own people.

P.S. "Enemy of the People" is a Stalin's stamp too... Too many inaccuracies in your narrative.

[Pagan]

And all this Lenin-hatred is really funny, given that it was Lenin that basically created Ukraine as a state in 1917-1918

Of course most of Ukraine hates Lenin with an eternal passion.

Lenin declared the good farmers ('kulaks') to be "enemies of the people."

The ensuing collectivization of agriculture led to the mass starvation of the Holodomor.



And you think that is "really funny?"

Please DIAF.

So called Holodomor wasn't unique for the Ukraine. Any "privatization" of 1930s famine is a complete disgrace for the memory of people who died across the country. There were millions of victims across Russia, Belarus and other republics.

By the way, it's funny to see that so-called Holodomor is recognized as an act of genocide by the same countries which imposed the sanctions against USSR during these years. Yes, it was an act of genocide indeed, genocide of soviet people made by the UK, US and their allies.

Without these stupid sanctions there won't be a famine led to millions of victims. Pretty typical for this hypocrites, put a sanctions on the country and then blame it for everything happened.

denying of crimes is crime per se

[247crypto]

denying of crimes is crime per se

http://itar-tass.com/proisshestviya/1475021

[Balthazar]

denying of crimes is crime per se

Exactly, and you're criminal here. Fucking traitor who sold own country to mass murderers. Only suicide will be enough to whitewash your activities here.

[Pagan]

denying of crimes is crime per se

http://itar-tass.com/proisshestviya/1475021

lol, the same ruSSian pattern in Abkhazia

[iCEBREAKER]

You're confusing the civil war with 1930s famine. During rule of Lenin's government the agriculture production was increased dramatically... Pre-WW1 levels of agriculture production were reached in less than two years.

So called Holodomor happened a long after his death and wasn't unique for the Ukraine. Any "privatization" of 1930s famine is a complete disgrace for the memory of people who died across the country. There were millions of victims across Russia, Belarus and other republics.

By the way, it's funny to see that so-called Holodomor is recognized as an act of genocide by the same countries which imposed the sanctions against USSR during these years. Yes, it was an act of genocide indeed, genocide of soviet people made by the UK, US and their allies.

Without these stupid sanctions there won't be a famine led to millions of victims. Pretty typical for this hypocrites, put a sanctions on the country and then blame it for everything happened.

I will trust the people of Ukraine to know the facts of their own history, not jingoistic 'Great Mother Russia can do no wrong' propaganda.

You are right that Ukraine was not alone in suffering from the communist collectivization experiments.  Yes, many died in neighboring states.  But that does not diminish the right of Ukrainians to blame their unwanted Bolshevik overlords for the disaster.

Fed by the 'kulak' farmers, Ukraine had been self-sufficient for centuries.  It is a huge fertile place, and not dependent on trade to feed itself.  So blaming "sanctions" for the famine is not a reasonable explanation.  That is flimsy, revisionist 'Russia can do no wrong' propaganda.

While our common enemies (the oligarchs of Moscow, New York, and London) profited, the people of the US did what they could to help our suffering fellow western civilization:  http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/introduction/famine/

If you believe the rosy production reports from the time of Lenin's rule, I have some oceanfront property in Mongolia which may interest you.  You know what happened to anyone filing a less-than-suburb production report?  They were taken out and shot, or sent to Siberia.

Speaking of Siberia, Solzhenitsyn testified to the validity of his Ukrainian friends' grudge against Russia:

It pains me to write this as Ukraine and Russia are merged in my blood, in my heart, and in my thoughts. But extensive experience of friendly contacts with Ukrainians in the camps has shown me how much of a painful grudge they hold. Our generation will not escape from paying for the mistakes of our fathers.
http://rbth.com/arts/2014/05/20/solzhenitsyns_foresight_on_ukraine_proves_eerily_prescient_36791.html

Furthermore, he says the 'gift' of provinces was a mockery of proper government:

In 1919, when he imposed his regime on Ukraine, Lenin gave her several Russian provinces to assuage her feelings. These provinces have never historically belonged to Ukraine. I am talking about the eastern and southern territories of today’s Ukraine.

Then, in 1954, Khrushchev, with the arbitrary capriciousness of a satrap, made a “gift” of the Crimea to Ukraine. But even he did not manage to make Ukraine a “gift” of Sevastopol, which remained a separate city under the jurisdiction of the U.S.S.R. central government.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/14/an-interview-with-aleksandr-solzhenitsyn-on-ukraine/

[Pagan]

New Document Leak Reveals Scope of Collaboration Between Moscow and Donetsk





Anonymous Ukrainian hackers have leaked a cache of documents revealing the interactions between separatists in eastern Ukrainian and a Russian far-right political party. Among the seemingly endless bureaucratic documents, a few hidden gems reveal plans for a fuel delivery network between Russia and the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic (DNR), as well as an elaborate political campaign.

Ukrainian media outlets say Pushilin’s scanned passport is a smoking gun—proof that Russia is working with the separatists. The image, however, is only circumstantial evidence. A scanned passport photo doesn't necessarily prove anything, though a reverse Google image search reveals that the image taken from the LDPR servers did not appear online until two days ago.

http://globalvoicesonline.org/2014/09/29/russia-ukriane-doc-leak-ldpr/

[247crypto]

is a smoking gun

No more news about Malaysian aircraft?