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June 13, 2014, 07:27:10 PM
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Any news of the June 10th batch? Shipping soon? Price barely moved with this batch.

can we have a status update on June batch please? thanks

Small number of shipping will be today.
More on Monday and Wednesday or Thursday next week.

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June 13, 2014, 09:33:00 PM
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Gotcha.  Thanks Smiley

According to Con the problem is now resolved. I didn't test it since I am not at work.
I created an image 1.4.4 (experimental) with latest cgminer, you can test and see if it works for you (remember to rm /mnt/config/etc/bin/cgminer).
Hey Zvisha,

Just wanted to let you and Con know that the fix provided in the 1.4.4 firmware resolved the p2pool problem.  Thanks for the quick turnaround!

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June 13, 2014, 09:55:38 PM
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Hello my friend, I've missed you. Is it too boring at one of AM threads ?

None of those companies can match the price point of SP30 with current gen and Q3 planned hardware.

It has already been done.

http://shop.rockminer.com/goods.php?id=34

2880gh for 4btc.
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Hello my friend, I've missed you. Is it too boring at one of AM threads ?

None of those companies can match the price point of SP30 with current gen and Q3 planned hardware.

It has already been done.

http://shop.rockminer.com/goods.php?id=34

2880w vapourware for 4btc.

cheap.chinese.junk

you are welcome to it.

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June 13, 2014, 09:59:29 PM
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Hello my friend, I've missed you. Is it too boring at one of AM threads ?

None of those companies can match the price point of SP30 with current gen and Q3 planned hardware.

It has already been done.

http://shop.rockminer.com/goods.php?id=34

2880gh for 4btc.

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June 13, 2014, 09:59:38 PM
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Hello my friend, I've missed you. Is it too boring at one of AM threads ?

None of those companies can match the price point of SP30 with current gen and Q3 planned hardware.

It has already been done.

http://shop.rockminer.com/goods.php?id=34

2880gh for 4btc.

Don't forget 4x PSU's to run them, and 1.2w/GH is going backwards, machines need to be getting more effecient not less.

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June 13, 2014, 10:26:29 PM
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Hello my friend, I've missed you. Is it too boring at one of AM threads ?

None of those companies can match the price point of SP30 with current gen and Q3 planned hardware.

It has already been done.

http://shop.rockminer.com/goods.php?id=34

2880gh for 4btc.
I see a render, not a product.  I also see 2.4TH/s, not 2.88.  Oh, and it'll need 2880 watts (maybe you swapped the hash rate / power consumption).  2 of these things still won't get you the equivalent of 1 SP30 hashing rate.  Oh, and price.  8BTC for 2, no PSUs included, which puts it more expensive than the SP30 for less hashing.

Might want to reconsider the "It has already been done" statement.

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June 13, 2014, 10:32:33 PM
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I see a render, not a product.  I also see 2.4TH/s, not 2.88.  Oh, and it'll need 2880 watts (maybe you swapped the hash rate / power consumption).  2 of these things still won't get you the equivalent of 1 SP30 hashing rate.  Oh, and price.  8BTC for 2, no PSUs included, which puts it more expensive than the SP30 for less hashing.

They have working machines:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=648455.0

And they are swapping each order for 4 rxboxes for 6 rkboxes(480gh each) for a total of 2880gh.

No psus included but they are only ~$10 each.
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June 13, 2014, 10:39:56 PM
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Hello my friend, I've missed you. Is it too boring at one of AM threads ?

None of those companies can match the price point of SP30 with current gen and Q3 planned hardware.

It has already been done.

http://shop.rockminer.com/goods.php?id=34

2880gh for 4btc.
I see a render, not a product.  I also see 2.4TH/s, not 2.88.  Oh, and it'll need 2880 watts (maybe you swapped the hash rate / power consumption).  2 of these things still won't get you the equivalent of 1 SP30 hashing rate.  Oh, and price.  8BTC for 2, no PSUs included, which puts it more expensive than the SP30 for less hashing.

Might want to reconsider the "It has already been done" statement.

Not to argue one side over other, but as of right now one Sp-30=12.72-13.64 RK-boxes (at $7500-8000 plus $600 PSU plus $500 Rpi=total of $8600-9100).
So, you pay premium now for sure. i think that Rk-box is overpriced because it is aimed at "home" market. I feel that spondoolies had proven themselves as very able engineers.
Besides, I would probably switch mostly to colocation-too much trouble "hosting' these beasts at home, at least during summer.
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Not to argue one side over other, but as of right now one Sp-30=12.72-13.64 RK-boxes (at $7500-8000 plus $600 PSU plus $500 Rpi=total of $8600-9100).

12 rkboxes is 8btc ($4600) plus $100 for psus(10 x $10 dell server psus) plus 1 high end gaming pc for $800 (just because you will have the extra money)

So about $5500 and it's not a preorder.
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Not to argue one side over other, but as of right now one Sp-30=12.72-13.64 RK-boxes (at $7500-8000 plus $600 PSU plus $500 Rpi=total of $8600-9100).

12 rkboxes is 8btc ($4600) plus $100 for psus(10 x $10 dell server psus) plus 1 high end gaming pc for $800 (just because you will have the extra money)

So about $5500 and it's not a preorder.

and how much electric are you pulling from a residential circuit with that massive bank of PSU's?

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Not to argue one side over other, but as of right now one Sp-30=12.72-13.64 RK-boxes (at $7500-8000 plus $600 PSU plus $500 Rpi=total of $8600-9100).

12 rkboxes is 8btc ($4600) plus $100 for psus(10 x $10 dell server psus) plus 1 high end gaming pc for $800 (just because you will have the extra money)

So about $5500 and it's not a preorder.

And how much is the delivery for the 84 kgs?

It seems that the spaghetti monster is aimed for the amateur home user/miner. 0 stackability, bad power efficiency, A LOT of wires and a lot of work to set them up while the SP30 will be just a 2U box with 2 cables to plug (power and ethernet). I assume there is A LOT of space needed for those 12 abominations. Good luck on your next dividends. You will need it!

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June 13, 2014, 10:56:05 PM
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and how much electric are you pulling from a residential circuit with that massive bank of PSU's?


Well each unit is only 480w (~120w per blade). Nobody's going to make you order more than your home circuit can handle.

It seems that the spaghetti monster is aimed for the amateur home user/miner.

Now you're getting it. Not every miner needs to be in a DC you know.
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and how much electric are you pulling from a residential circuit with that massive bank of PSU's?


Well each unit is only 480w (~120w per blade). Nobody's going to make you order more than your home circuit can handle.

It seems that the spaghetti monster is aimed for the amateur home user/miner.

Now you're getting it. Not every miner needs to be in a DC you know.

Your 2 statements are contradictory. How is the home user going to plug ~5800W in his home?

You are obviously not a miner and you don't seem to understand miners needs because having your miners in a DC has a lot more advantages than mining at home. Plus the fact that all miners have most of their power circuits maxed out by now.

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Not to argue one side over other, but as of right now one Sp-30=12.72-13.64 RK-boxes (at $7500-8000 plus $600 PSU plus $500 Rpi=total of $8600-9100).

12 rkboxes is 8btc ($4600) plus $100 for psus(10 x $10 dell server psus) plus 1 high end gaming pc for $800 (just because you will have the extra money)

So about $5500 and it's not a preorder.

Your embarrassing yourself, stop it, heck I'm even embarrassed for you. If you had your hands-on a Spondoolies-Tech product you would understand how ridicules your sounding.  Your also killing what credibility you think you have. Come back and comment AFTER you have experienced products in your position and then post your opinion?

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Your 2 statements are contradictory. How is the home user going to plug ~5800W in his home?

They are not contradictory. You can order as much watts as your home circuit will allow.

If you insist on 5800w im sure you can figure out how to upgrade your circuit.

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You are obviously not a miner and you don't seem to understand miners needs because having your miners in a DC has a lot more advantages than mining at home. Plus the fact that all miners have most of their power circuits maxed out by now.

You seem to have the misconception that everyone needs to have a few TH to be a miner.

It is just as profitable to mine with 100gh as with 6000gh if the $/gh, w/gh, $/kwh, and difficulty are the same.

Datacenters generally use 30% extra electricity for cooling. Hosting fees basically negate the efficiency advantage of an sp30.

I have yet to see a DC with hosting less than $0.15/kwh yet many people pay less than $0.05/kwh at home.
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June 13, 2014, 11:32:45 PM
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I want to ask some of the self proclaimed DC people who obviously know more than anyone.

Lets say you stuffed 32 SP10's into a rack leaving room for a switch up top.  How many circuits would that one rack need?  Hell how about you give me a AMP figure.

The SP products are bad ass but I think most of you have to much koolaid you are trying to hand out.  You act like you are going to run these miners for years LOL!  I kept stuff for no more than 2 months before sold and moved onto newer equipment.

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June 13, 2014, 11:40:10 PM
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You act like you are going to run these miners for years LOL!  I kept stuff for no more than 2 months before sold and moved onto newer equipment.

Almost forgot that the rxboxes are guaranteed to ROI within 2 months. (before an sp30 preordered today even ships)

So once you sell it, it's pure profit.
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Your 2 statements are contradictory. How is the home user going to plug ~5800W in his home?

They are not contradictory. You can order as much watts as your home circuit will allow.

If you insist on 5800w im sure you can figure out how to upgrade your circuit.

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You are obviously not a miner and you don't seem to understand miners needs because having your miners in a DC has a lot more advantages than mining at home. Plus the fact that all miners have most of their power circuits maxed out by now.

You seem to have the misconception that everyone needs to have a few TH to be a miner.

It is just as profitable to mine with 100gh as with 6000gh if the $/gh, w/gh, $/kwh, and difficulty are the same.

Datacenters generally use 30% extra electricity for cooling. Hosting fees basically negate the efficiency advantage of an sp30.

I have yet to see a DC with hosting less than $0.15/kwh yet many people pay less than $0.05/kwh at home.

So you say that not every miner needs to be in a DC, but the home miner is forced into paying more for upgrading his power circuit in order to accommodate that spaghetti monster which is the equivalent of a 2700W SP30 miner. So instead of shipping miners to a DC and have them setup in a day they are forced into getting an electrician over and planning the whole re-wiring scheme. Good advice!

Yes DCs may not go lower than $0.15/kwh, but you also get the cooling that you don't get home (summer is coming) plus that you are not capped when it comes to power.

Those paying $0.05/kwh at home are just a few and only in US. Care to share how many states have that power pricing? All europeans pay a lot for power and having $0.15/kwh in a DC is very very good.

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It is just as profitable to mine with 100gh as with 6000gh if the $/gh, w/gh, $/kwh, and difficulty are the same.

Yes, but once you hit your ROI the hashrate matters when it comes to profit. Mining with 100GH will leave you with just dust after ROI while mining with 6000GH will help you get a decent profit AFTER you hit ROI. Since you are targeting amateur miners it may sound very ok for them to mine with very little hashpower because they will be able to hit ROI, but their profits will be non-existent or too little to upgrade the miners.

Let me repeat myself: 84kgs for just a bit over 5TH/s is a new record Smiley

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So you say that not every miner needs to be in a DC, but the home miner is forced into paying more for upgrading his power circuit in order to accommodate that spaghetti monster which is the equivalent of a 2700W SP30 miner.

Rockminer is not forcing you to buy more than your home circuit can handle.

Not everyone needs to buy 3kw+ worth of miners to turn a profit.

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Those paying $0.05/kwh at home are just a few and only in US. Care to share how many states have that power pricing? All europeans pay a lot for power and having $0.15/kwh in a DC is very very good.

http://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.cfm?t=epmt_5_6_a

About half of the states average about $0.1/kwh for residential. Not many places have rates below $0.05/kwh but they do exist.

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Yes, but once you hit your ROI the hashrate matters when it comes to profit. Mining with 100GH will leave you with just dust after ROI while mining with 6000GH will help you get a decent profit AFTER you hit ROI. Since you are targeting amateur miners it may sound very ok for them to mine with very little hashpower because they will be able to hit ROI, but their profits will be non-existent or too little to upgrade the miners.

If that is your way of thinking you would probably be interested in a 5PH immersion cooled rig from xbtec. Plenty of power and efficiency.
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