[ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs

[paranoidx]

Spondoolies or Roadstress, how will the difference in higher power consumption affect the cost of monthly hosting in the US datacenter?

[windpath]

Can someone explain how the September batch 2 SP30s (and I assume other batches) have 2x 1200 watt PSUs and draws 3000 watts at the wall?

http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/sp30-yukon-september-batch-2

[paranoidx]

Can someone explain how the September batch 2 SP30s (and I assume other batches) have 2x 1200 watt PSUs and draws 3000 watts at the wall?

http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/sp30-yukon-september-batch-2

Already been discussed a few pages back.

My understanding is the PSUs provide 1200watts output, but 1500watts at the wall.

[psahx]

Can someone explain how the September batch 2 SP30s (and I assume other batches) have 2x 1200 watt PSUs and draws 3000 watts at the wall?

http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/sp30-yukon-september-batch-2

They are 1200W PSUs, but can provide more power, almost 20% more. 1200W is their safe 80% certified load. In reality you are looking to have 1350~1400W PSU. You can find the datasheet for both of the PSUs in Guy's posts.

Already been discussed a few pages back.
My understanding is the PSUs provide 1200watts output, but 1500watts at the wall.

NO. ~1350-1400W output 1500 at the wall.

[windpath]

I'm certainly no electrical engineer, but wont running the PSUs on such a high load be detrimental to efficiency, lifespan, and cooling?

[psahx]

I'm certainly no electrical engineer, but wont running the PSUs on such a high load be detrimental to efficiency, lifespan, and cooling?

I do not think so. They are stress tested by the manufacturer and also by Spondoolies to confirm the safe margin. Keep in mind, these are top notch PSUs, designed to work 24/7 with continuous load on them.

[Marvell1]

I'm certainly no electrical engineer, but wont running the PSUs on such a high load be detrimental to efficiency, lifespan, and cooling?

great point man, I was somewhat worried about this as well , so in reality we should probably be swapping out these PSU's for something better witch is an additional
cost ugh!!

[Marvell1]

I'm certainly no electrical engineer, but wont running the PSUs on such a high load be detrimental to efficiency, lifespan, and cooling?

great point man, I was somewhat worried about this as well , so in reality we should probably be swapping out these PSU's for something better witch is an additional
cost ugh!!

ok thanks for the feedback on this hope you are right

[psahx]

Due to repeating questions:

SP30 AC/DC Power Supply unit guidelines - SP30 PSU

ok thanks for the feedback on this hope you are right

[mrpark]

I'm certainly no electrical engineer, but wont running the PSUs on such a high load be detrimental to efficiency, lifespan, and cooling?

I do not think so. They are stress tested by the manufacturer and also by Spondoolies to confirm the safe margin. Keep in mind, these are top notch PSUs, designed to work 24/7 with continuous load on them.

By Spondoolies? for how long SP30 just came out? Even if they supply 1200W, do you really want them maxed out? I will wait a few months to see how they hold up. It's an expensive experiment for me if it doesn't. Its a 1200w power supply and it outputs 1200W to the board? I guess the answer is that it takes 1500W from the wall to but the power supply itself supplies 1200w to the miner. Any way someone could check the output? 

[psahx]

I'm certainly no electrical engineer, but wont running the PSUs on such a high load be detrimental to efficiency, lifespan, and cooling?

I do not think so. They are stress tested by the manufacturer and also by Spondoolies to confirm the safe margin. Keep in mind, these are top notch PSUs, designed to work 24/7 with continuous load on them.

By Spondoolies? for how long SP30 just came out? Even if they supply 1200W, do you really want them maxed out? I will wait a few months to see how they hold up. It's an expensive experiment for me if it doesn't. Its a 1200w power supply and it outputs 1200W to the board? I guess the answer is that it takes 1500W from the wall to but the power supply itself supplies 1200w to the miner. Any way someone could check the output? 

Relax. The only thing you will be losing is the PSU efficiency. Nothing more nothing less. As I told before, these are high end PSUs, designed to sustain high load, continuously. Instead of ~95% efficiency, you will see something around ~85%.

[Airwhale]

  For several weeks  ghash.io is only 42- 47 Ph/s
I  get each block today  BTC 0.0111  Found blocks last 48 hours - 96
 Did you get somewhere better?

You can start doing nasty things to the network when you control about 30% of it,  which ghash does.
p2pool provides as good/slightly better rewards in terms of btc mined.

[Marvell1]

  For several weeks  ghash.io is only 42- 47 Ph/s
I  get each block today  BTC 0.0111  Found blocks last 48 hours - 96
 Did you get somewhere better?

You can start doing nasty things to the network when you control about 30% of it,  which ghash does.
p2pool provides as good/slightly better rewards in terms of btc mined.

A SHA multipool would be better anyways since BTC is not always the most profitable coin to mine

[pKnowles]

Hey RoadStress

Do you know when the first SP30 machine of the groupbuy will ship?  What about Spondoolies?  Will they say when the groupbuy machines will start to ship?

[Wookie50]

I have a question on compensation for SP30's.

Per note announcing the SP30: http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/news/14979953-introducing-the-sp30:

Compensation will be based on preserving the $/GH ratio of the original deal.

The hash rate spec dropped from 5.4TH/s to 4.5TH/s -- a reduction of 16.7%.  Based on this, those of us who paid $5095 are due for a compensation of $5095 * 16.7% = ~$850 -- with the final adjusted price being $5095 - $850 = $4244.

Yet, new customers are now charged $3895 for the same product -- which is a significantly higher discount than the one paid by those of us who pre-ordered a while back.

So, the question for Spondoolies is:  Is 16.7% the final compensation that is coming in October?

[Biodom]

I have a question on compensation for SP30's.

Per note announcing the SP30: http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/news/14979953-introducing-the-sp30:

Compensation will be based on preserving the $/GH ratio of the original deal.

The hash rate spec dropped from 5.4TH/s to 4.5TH/s -- a reduction of 16.7%.  Based on this, those of us who paid $5095 are due for a compensation of $5095 * 16.7% = ~$850 -- with the final adjusted price being $5095 - $850 = $4244.

Yet, new customers are now charged $3895 for the same product -- which is a significantly higher discount than the one paid by those of us who pre-ordered a while back.

So, the question for Spondoolies is:  Is 16.7% the final compensation that is coming in October?

why exactly you are asking (meekly) if this is what you are going to get instead of requesting fair compensation, which is 25% (4.5 vs 6Th-this is what I ordered) plus compensation for higher electricity use (3000W vs 2500w)? Sheesh.

[Wookie50]

I have a question on compensation for SP30's.

Per note announcing the SP30: http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/news/14979953-introducing-the-sp30:

Compensation will be based on preserving the $/GH ratio of the original deal.

The hash rate spec dropped from 5.4TH/s to 4.5TH/s -- a reduction of 16.7%.  Based on this, those of us who paid $5095 are due for a compensation of $5095 * 16.7% = ~$850 -- with the final adjusted price being $5095 - $850 = $4244.

Yet, new customers are now charged $3895 for the same product -- which is a significantly higher discount than the one paid by those of us who pre-ordered a while back.

So, the question for Spondoolies is:  Is 16.7% the final compensation that is coming in October?

why exactly you are asking (meekly) if this is what you are going to get instead of requesting fair compensation, which is 25% (4.5 vs 6Th-this is what I ordered) plus compensation for higher electricity use (3000W vs 2500w)? Sheesh.

Basically ... yes.  In all my dealings with SP-Tech, I found them to be 100% up-and-up and both Guy and Zvi rock.  Because of my history with them, I'm giving them the full benefit of the doubt that perhaps it was me who misunderstood compensation.

[wh00per]

I'd ask for compensation in lollipops at $3/LB like Walmart has them enough to eat my whole life and after. What I can't eat, I'll sell to draw funds for the diabetes research, @ 1 BTC ea then I'll run with the money in Africa and build solar panel water pumping kits with reverse osmosis for about 10 years (some research is required for deep drilling, who wants to invest?). Soon all Africa will be green, and we're going to export the technology in Phoenix AZ. With no pre-buys, all Arizona and Texas will be filled in with my kits

Wish me luck!


PS: Can we please wait a while, to discuss on a written compensation plan? Greed killed Schrodinger's cat!

[RoadStress]

Hey RoadStress

Do you know when the first SP30 machine of the groupbuy will ship?  What about Spondoolies?  Will they say when the groupbuy machines will start to ship?

Don't know.

The hash rate spec dropped from 5.4TH/s to 4.5TH/s -- a reduction of 16.7%.  Based on this, those of us who paid $5095 are due for a compensation of $5095 * 16.7% = ~$850 -- with the final adjusted price being $5095 - $850 = $4244.

Yet, new customers are now charged $3895 for the same product -- which is a significantly higher discount than the one paid by those of us who pre-ordered a while back.

So, the question for Spondoolies is:  Is 16.7% the final compensation that is coming in October?

You are getting your miner in August or September Batch 1. The website price is for September Batch 2. It's normal to have a lower price for a later delivery.

why exactly you are asking (meekly) if this is what you are going to get instead of requesting fair compensation, which is 25% (4.5 vs 6Th-this is what I ordered) plus compensation for higher electricity use (3000W vs 2500w)? Sheesh.

Why are you jumping the gun without even announcing the final details of the compensation plans? Also you know that you are free to address any concerns to them directly on e-mail.

[RoadStress]

Hi all.

Brought up some more stations today..

Nice update! What uptime format is that?