Coronavirus Outbreak

[franky1]

oh look the herbal doctors still pushing there supplement affiliation..
i would ask for their own personal studies they done. or more evidence than just youtube testimonials.
but ofcourse all ill get is insults that its strangely me thats promoting corporate produced products.

by the way.. to produce L lysine. it require genetically modified bacteria to ferment, so yea.. travel down that conspiracy of big-corp genetically modifying bacteria to make your supplements,,,  mmhmm not so herbal after all is it

[eddie13]

I can't stand to keep up with reading on this virus shit every day anymore..
I have been drifting off to fantasy land (watched all the lord of the rings) and just self quarantining as much as I can in peace and comfort..

[TwitchySeal]

I can't stand to keep up with reading on this virus shit every day anymore..
I have been drifting off to fantasy land (watched all the lord of the rings) and just self quarantining as much as I can in peace and comfort..

Watch Tiger King on Netflix.  Incredible.

[BADecker]

oh look the herbal doctors still pushing there supplement affiliation..
i would ask for their own personal studies they done. or more evidence than just youtube testimonials.
but ofcourse all ill get is insults that its strangely me thats promoting corporate produced products.

by the way.. to produce L lysine. it require genetically modified bacteria to ferment, so yea.. travel down that conspiracy of big-corp genetically modifying bacteria to make your supplements,,,  mmhmm not so herbal after all is it

Average people at home do what makes them feel good. After all, when you get sick, you only know it if it hurts. If it doesn't hurt, and if you are as strong as you were yesterday, how do you know if you are sick or not, right?

So, when people don't feel good, they do what makes them feel better. Often this is to eat some herbs. Maybe it's just eating veggies, if one hasn't been eating enough lately.



Probably dentists have stock in breakfast cereal companies. After all, most of these companies fortify their cereals with iron, these days. Try chewing on an iron bar and seeing what it does to your teeth. Fortified with iron... more money for the dentist.

[Meowth05]

People should also be helping themselves to prevent the pandemic from further occuring and it also helps the government to contain it. Contrary to popular belief, the virus is the same as a simple flu but it is different, the similarities are that they belong to the same family of viruses.

[franky1]

Probably dentists have stock in breakfast cereal companies. After all, most of these companies fortify their cereals with iron, these days. Try chewing on an iron bar and seeing what it does to your teeth. Fortified with iron... more money for the dentist.

OMG now you really are showing your stupidity comparing the metal iron with the powdered form..
you could have hid your stupidity and atleast resembled having a point by mentioning the sugar added to cereal.
but no you had to go down the iron route as the conspiracy of dentists with shares in cereal companies

......
anyway moving on from your silly opinions.

to answer something more ontopic. a few people kept bringing up the details of how china hushed up a doctor in december about corona.
this was not a conspiracy. this was at the point in december. there were not millions of cases. but just a few cases and all of them were showing a commonality of being from the wuhan wetmarket.
this is not a sign of some world wide pandemic. this is also a sign of a confined cross contamination in a small area. at that point they did not know how much it would spread and casing panic at the first signs is more disasterous than not saying anything.

imagine the panic if a group of 5 people had a nut allergy and went into respiratory distress.. should the world know/go into lockdown everytime?

however when it did spread beyond. china done some number analysis and realised that it can go widespread and fast. they informed everyone and january 9th every country knew.. this was while less than 1k cases were known of
and they organised building brand new hospitals from scratch by february.

its easy to blame china however other countries that heard about it on 9th january. but didnt on 10th january decide they should go full prepare mode themselves.
heck. trump only started wanting to make more temporary hospitals in march. 2 month delay
heck UK only started to make new hospitals in march.
they are only just in the last couple weeks now requesting new/different manufacturers to start making them equipment. a whole 2 months after
(UK asked vacuum cleaner company Dyson in march. US asked car maker GM in march)

heck in december china only thought it was some food poisoning/ross contamination from the wetmarket that caused respiratory issues. and 2 months later they had new hospitals ready and staffed.
there are still countries like india who 3 months later only started self isolation/social distancing stuff.. yep 3 months later

[ChiBitCTy]

Things are continuing to get worse each day here in the United Sates.  We've well taken over the global lead of cases found , which now is around 124,000.  Just yesterday along the United States had nearly 20,000 new cases. That's more than many countries have had period, since the very beginning.  The United States today had something around 18,000 I believe it was.  People please stop going outside and gather in groups.  It blows my mind that people are going outside and playing basketball, soccer, etc.  Even seeing groups of people walking and not practicing social distancing is spitting right in the face of those whom are not in full health.  Not to mention spitting in the face of people whom have relatives, close friends and immediate family members who couldn't take a risk of getting the flu.  I myself have a couple family members who would likely not make it had the been infected with this virus.  Please stay responsible out there people.

[suchmoon]

124,000

I wish there was a better way to see those numbers, e.g. as cases per hospital bed or ICU, or a downward chart of available ICU beds, or something like that. I haven't found such a data source, not real time anyway. Perhaps that would make it clearer to some deniers.

Another thing that is very misleading is the mortality rate I've seen some claiming as being lower than in other countries. It's between 1-2% if you just divide the number of deaths by the number of cases but that's inaccurate because most of those who test positive today may not die or recover until 2+ weeks later when the case count will have grown 20-fold. Not sure what the proper calculation is but certainly not that.

[Tash]

Second French Study by Dr. Raoult finds Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin Helped EVERY PATIENT in Study Group of 80 Minus One
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/huge-second-french-study-by-dr-raoult-finds-hydroxychloroquine-and-azithromycin-helped-every-patient-in-study-group-of-80-minus-one-video/

[tvbcof]

Second French Study by Dr. Raoult finds Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin Helped EVERY PATIENT in Study Group of 80 Minus One
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/huge-second-french-study-by-dr-raoult-finds-hydroxychloroquine-and-azithromycin-helped-every-patient-in-study-group-of-80-minus-one-video/

This French doctor and researcher is one of many very distinguished peers saying this thing is a nothingburger.  These people are so estemed that they don't want their reputations tarnished apperently.  And a lot of them are probably also simply humanitarians who see where this thing is going:

  https://youtu.be/E_gMT4_PDJI?t=3455

Before that cut is a littany of media mouthpieces saying the most absurd fearmongering and anti-Trump stuff imaginable.  Worth a watch as well.

I'll say it again.  MSN, CNBC, NPR, CNN, etc, etc are going to succeed only in bolstering the lie that Trump is some sort of a genius who's judgement will save the nation.  For over 4 years, these mainstream (supposed) 'enemies' of Donald have been his best friends and have done the most to get his extremely corrupt and anti-American swamp cronies to the positions they now hold.

[Tash]

Russia alos using existing anti-malaria drug  Mefloquine, (Lariam)
https://www.rt.com/russia/484364-russian-drug-treatment-covid19/
Chloroquine approvend and save to use since 1955, Mefloquine — been around since the 1970

[Ibian]

124,000

I wish there was a better way to see those numbers, e.g. as cases per hospital bed or ICU, or a downward chart of available ICU beds, or something like that. I haven't found such a data source, not real time anyway. Perhaps that would make it clearer to some deniers.

Another thing that is very misleading is the mortality rate I've seen some claiming as being lower than in other countries. It's between 1-2% if you just divide the number of deaths by the number of cases but that's inaccurate because most of those who test positive today may not die or recover until 2+ weeks later when the case count will have grown 20-fold. Not sure what the proper calculation is but certainly not that.

Death/(death+recovered).

Alternatively death/infected times four (doubling time 6 days, 2 weeks asymptomatic).

[Ibian]

Second French Study by Dr. Raoult finds Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin Helped EVERY PATIENT in Study Group of 80 Minus One
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/huge-second-french-study-by-dr-raoult-finds-hydroxychloroquine-and-azithromycin-helped-every-patient-in-study-group-of-80-minus-one-video/

This French doctor and researcher is one of many very distinguished peers saying this thing is a nothingburger.  These people are so estemed that they don't want their reputations tarnished apperently.  And a lot of them are probably also simply humanitarians who see where this thing is going:

  https://youtu.be/E_gMT4_PDJI?t=3455

Before that cut is a littany of media mouthpieces saying the most absurd fearmongering and anti-Trump stuff imaginable.  Worth a watch as well.

I'll say it again.  MSN, CNBC, NPR, CNN, etc, etc are going to succeed only in bolstering the lie that Trump is some sort of a genius who's judgement will save the nation.  For over 4 years, these mainstream (supposed) 'enemies' of Donald have been his best friends and have done the most to get his extremely corrupt and anti-American swamp cronies to the positions they now hold.

So out of curiosity, would you have preferred Hillary? That's the alternative.

[tvbcof]

Furthermore, Harambe threatened funding for the 5G program, which is why he was assassinated.

Run-of-the-mill strawman so you don't have to discuss real scientific issues.  Yawn.

Keep at it though because every time content-less losers try to use the schtick it becomes weaker and the more people recognize you for a non-reliable person who's got nothing.

[Ibian]

Furthermore, Harambe threatened funding for the 5G program, which is why he was assassinated.

5G is weird. There is no practical reason to build it.

[tvbcof]

So out of curiosity, would you have preferred Hillary? That's the alternative.

Of course not.  2020 would have come a couple years earlier under her is all.  Actually 2020 was always going to be in 2020, but she would have set things up slightly different and with more of a heavy hand in some respects to favor a different faction of the so-called 'new world order' crowd.  Basically the 'resource-backed monetary system' guys vs. the 'another debt-backed monetary system' crowd.  The implosion was set for 2020 no matter what.

I didn't know one way or another whether Trump was just a different flavor of swamp creature when I supported him in 2016.  Strongly suspected it though.   I did expect that a Trump presidency, even if it was as corrupt as it turned out to be, would give me some time to bail out.  That it did.

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Edit:  I forgot to mention that reserve requirements were quietly brought to zero a little while ago.  What that means to someone who understand monetary science is 'That's all, Folks.'

[franky1]

124,000

I wish there was a better way to see those numbers, e.g. as cases per hospital bed or ICU, or a downward chart of available ICU beds, or something like that. I haven't found such a data source, not real time anyway. Perhaps that would make it clearer to some deniers.

Another thing that is very misleading is the mortality rate I've seen some claiming as being lower than in other countries. It's between 1-2% if you just divide the number of deaths by the number of cases but that's inaccurate because most of those who test positive today may not die or recover until 2+ weeks later when the case count will have grown 20-fold. Not sure what the proper calculation is but certainly not that.

some countries are just testing patients on ICU beds with respiratory issues to make sure its corona and not asthma or panic attack or other things like copd. so out of those. only 6% died

however now they are swabbing more randomly of people who are not even symptomatic but have been in proximity of those with it. which then makes the death rate less. because although they have it. they are not symptomatic so it dilutes the stats.

the way you have to imagine it is EVERYONE is going to get it. EVERYONE but only 1% will be symptomatic enough to need reporting. and only 6% of those symptomatic enough to need reporting will be critical/risk of death
in short if everyone was swabbed.. it would end up as a 0.06% death rate. but because only critical were being swabbed it was 6%.. but now that % is going down the more random swabs are done

what people also need to realise. self isolation is not to stamp out the virus and kill it. its to prevent the people isolating from spreading it to everyone in one go.
you will see more peaks and troths of it throughout the year. and the government will control when to loosen the restrictions and tighten them again if it spreads to the rest too fast.

[BADecker]

Probably dentists have stock in breakfast cereal companies. After all, most of these companies fortify their cereals with iron, these days. Try chewing on an iron bar and seeing what it does to your teeth. Fortified with iron... more money for the dentist.

OMG now you really are showing your stupidity comparing the metal iron with the powdered form..
you could have hid your stupidity and atleast resembled having a point by mentioning the sugar added to cereal.
but no you had to go down the iron route as the conspiracy of dentists with shares in cereal companies

Gotcha.

You are such a trip!

[TECSHARE]

"New York hospitals treating coronavirus patients with vitamin C "

https://nypost.com/2020/03/24/new-york-hospitals-treating-coronavirus-patients-with-vitamin-c/

[philipma1957]

If people think this is bad, wait until they hear about influenza

Since October 2019:

13,000,000 – 18,000,000
flu illnesses

5,900,000 – 8,500,000
flu medical visits

120,000 – 210,000
flu hospitalizations

6,600 – 17,000
flu deaths

corona - v has crushed this and you spoke far too soon.