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January 02, 2023, 10:31:03 PM
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But for the fight between Ioka and Franco, it's a unification so very difficult to reverse until all bodies agree on the decision, but I doubt that they will do that, they can simple order a mandatory rematch, best case scenario.

Why there's a need for reverse? As I watched some of the clips of that fight, they are really fighting toe-to-toe. That won't be subject for sure for a review since there should be no controversial thing about that fight. Besides, I doubt one of the party are complaining aggressively to the point that they will file a case.

The DRAW result seems like a fair judge to me and no biased decision or anything.

About a mandatory rematch, I think not gonna happened as Franco sticks with his target for a long, WBC Junior bantamweight champion Juan Francisco Estrada.

Ioka on the other hand will be mandated by WBO to fight for a title defense.

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January 02, 2023, 11:22:08 PM
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But for the fight between Ioka and Franco, it's a unification so very difficult to reverse until all bodies agree on the decision, but I doubt that they will do that, they can simple order a mandatory rematch, best case scenario.

Why there's a need for reverse? As I watched some of the clips of that fight, they are really fighting toe-to-toe. That won't be subject for sure for a review since there should be no controversial thing about that fight. Besides, I doubt one of the party are complaining aggressively to the point that they will file a case.

The DRAW result seems like a fair judge to me and no biased decision or anything.

About a mandatory rematch, I think not gonna happened as Franco sticks with his target for a long, WBC Junior bantamweight champion Juan Francisco Estrada.

Ioka on the other hand will be mandated by WBO to fight for a title defense.

Fair and nothing to say about the decision, regarding to the possibility of a rematch, that only depends on both camps, especially if
money speaks louder even the career intention can be changed if dealing with huge amount of money.

Handlers and promoters will think about the possibilities of bringing both fighters if they see good pressure from fans and sponsors.

Updates will be announced either there's a complaint between the camps, or they decided to take the rematch. We can only speak
on our opinions, but the finals, judgments are still on the organization to declare.
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January 02, 2023, 11:41:48 PM
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Updates will be announced either there's a complaint between the camps, or they decided to take the rematch. We can only speak
on our opinions, but the finals, judgments are still on the organization to declare.

Reading articles related to that fight, no signs of complaining or anything from both party. No need for reviews or something.

Both boxers will now finally move on to the next chapter of their fight.

No mandatory rematch as per the article I read, Ioka is not available for it. Franco will be facing another opponent and so is Ioka.
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January 03, 2023, 01:21:42 AM
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Updates will be announced either there's a complaint between the camps, or they decided to take the rematch. We can only speak
on our opinions, but the finals, judgments are still on the organization to declare.

Reading articles related to that fight, no signs of complaining or anything from both party. No need for reviews or something.

Both boxers will now finally move on to the next chapter of their fight.

No mandatory rematch as per the article I read, Ioka is not available for it. Franco will be facing another opponent and so is Ioka.

It's because both still have their belts as the results is draw. Not sure who will be the two will be facing in their division, Ioka seems to need to expand his horizon and need to fight another good boxer to remain on top or defend it stateside.

Same for Franco, he has been in a lot of controversial fight in his last 4, for those who are not aware of, his fight fight with Moloney is also the same and then they settled it in a trilogy wherein Franco won.

Everyone can search their first fight and it's so unfortunate for Moloney that he didn't get the benefit of the replay but when they fought the second time around, the referee uses a replay and chance his verdict from knock down to non knock down, how ironic it is.

 
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January 03, 2023, 06:37:40 AM
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This is something that I don't know how to say, but something happened at the Olympics that was precisely with the JAPANESE, I don't know if they already took that into account, and for that moment, the judges are the most studied and most expert, without However, they came out with those results, so here things are not done for the sake of it, I think that since boxing is a business model in which money is managed at a very high level, things can get out of hand and it is usually seen as a great I shamelessly have fights that are fixed, now the judges and the federations always take care not to put their reputation at risk and any claim can be seen as something childish, when it can be very well categorized.

In some cases like this, it should be investigated if there are many that are siding that the fight was truly fixed and there is something that happens that is really not right and not true with the fight then people that are involved should be investigated and if proven guilty they should have gotten a fine for the damage that has happened and on the recent fight of John Riel Casimero the fight was changed to No contest to a KO/TKO punch to the back of the head,


That is common because they don't have any strings to pull or that their promoter has no ties with the governing bodies or committees that will get the outcome to their favor, in those cases, they already know what would be the outcome and that the result will not be in their favor. To sum it up, almost all sports industries have the same problems because this is a multi-millions sports after all, we just got to be accustomed by it.

In some cases, they can not do something about it but there are promoters for that event that will surely use someone to make the fight in their favor and that task was always on the referee's decision-making, well there is recent news that a referee has recently admitted to cheating the knockout count for Pacquaio and prolonging the count because he is a Filipino well there are surely different aspect for the said cheating and allowing Manny Pacquiao to rest a bit and that Referee was Carlos Padilla so in this recent statement referee is surely prone to commit cheating for their favorite boxer, but if the fight is dominant enough are there are no chance for the following to make that cheat then there is no need to worry about something, but then if the fight was close then it can easily manipulated by the referee of the judges,
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January 03, 2023, 08:25:34 PM
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This is something that I don't know how to say, but something happened at the Olympics that was precisely with the JAPANESE, I don't know if they already took that into account, and for that moment, the judges are the most studied and most expert, without However, they came out with those results, so here things are not done for the sake of it, I think that since boxing is a business model in which money is managed at a very high level, things can get out of hand and it is usually seen as a great I shamelessly have fights that are fixed, now the judges and the federations always take care not to put their reputation at risk and any claim can be seen as something childish, when it can be very well categorized.

In some cases like this, it should be investigated if there are many that are siding that the fight was truly fixed and there is something that happens that is really not right and not true with the fight then people that are involved should be investigated and if proven guilty they should have gotten a fine for the damage that has happened and on the recent fight of John Riel Casimero the fight was changed to No contest to a KO/TKO punch to the back of the head,

That is the fair thing that the organisation should do, if ever that there's a controversy with the decisions coming from the judges who facilitated the fight, if found guilty then they should have that right punishments and reverse the decision in favour of the right winner the same thing that happened with Casimero.

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That is common because they don't have any strings to pull or that their promoter has no ties with the governing bodies or committees that will get the outcome to their favor, in those cases, they already know what would be the outcome and that the result will not be in their favor. To sum it up, almost all sports industries have the same problems because this is a multi-millions sports after all, we just got to be accustomed by it.

In some cases, they can not do something about it but there are promoters for that event that will surely use someone to make the fight in their favor and that task was always on the referee's decision-making, well there is recent news that a referee has recently admitted to cheating the knockout count for Pacquaio and prolonging the count because he is a Filipino well there are surely different aspect for the said cheating and allowing Manny Pacquiao to rest a bit and that Referee was Carlos Padilla so in this recent statement referee is surely prone to commit cheating for their favorite boxer, but if the fight is dominant enough are there are no chance for the following to make that cheat then there is no need to worry about something, but then if the fight was close then it can easily manipulated by the referee of the judges,


I agree to that, if the fight was close then cheating can be done easily while if there's a domination that taking place, it will be tough to execute any cheat, the social media can easliy ruined everything if fans will make a noise the decision can be reverse.

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January 03, 2023, 09:59:46 PM
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That is common because they don't have any strings to pull or that their promoter has no ties with the governing bodies or committees that will get the outcome to their favor, in those cases, they already know what would be the outcome and that the result will not be in their favor. To sum it up, almost all sports industries have the same problems because this is a multi-millions sports after all, we just got to be accustomed by it.

In some cases, they can not do something about it but there are promoters for that event that will surely use someone to make the fight in their favor and that task was always on the referee's decision-making, well there is recent news that a referee has recently admitted to cheating the knockout count for Pacquaio and prolonging the count because he is a Filipino well there are surely different aspect for the said cheating and allowing Manny Pacquiao to rest a bit and that Referee was Carlos Padilla so in this recent statement referee is surely prone to commit cheating for their favorite boxer, but if the fight is dominant enough are there are no chance for the following to make that cheat then there is no need to worry about something, but then if the fight was close then it can easily manipulated by the referee of the judges,

Yep I agree, They certainly have power to make it an unfair fight if they side in their favorite boxer. Even prolonging a count by a fraction of a second could be unfair to the match since every millisecond count in a knockout. That kind of unfairness couldn't be caught easily and I believe that it needs to make the referee admit or have a very solid video evidence that it was performed during the match. It could be the same on football where referee power is so strong that they can instantly raise up the violation card they want to give and it is according to their perspective.

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That is common because they don't have any strings to pull or that their promoter has no ties with the governing bodies or committees that will get the outcome to their favor, in those cases, they already know what would be the outcome and that the result will not be in their favor. To sum it up, almost all sports industries have the same problems because this is a multi-millions sports after all, we just got to be accustomed by it.

In some cases, they can not do something about it but there are promoters for that event that will surely use someone to make the fight in their favor and that task was always on the referee's decision-making, well there is recent news that a referee has recently admitted to cheating the knockout count for Pacquaio and prolonging the count because he is a Filipino well there are surely different aspect for the said cheating and allowing Manny Pacquiao to rest a bit and that Referee was Carlos Padilla so in this recent statement referee is surely prone to commit cheating for their favorite boxer, but if the fight is dominant enough are there are no chance for the following to make that cheat then there is no need to worry about something, but then if the fight was close then it can easily manipulated by the referee of the judges,

Yep I agree, They certainly have power to make it an unfair fight if they side in their favorite boxer. Even prolonging a count by a fraction of a second could be unfair to the match since every millisecond count in a knockout. That kind of unfairness couldn't be caught easily and I believe that it needs to make the referee admit or have a very solid video evidence that it was performed during the match. It could be the same on football where referee power is so strong that they can instantly raise up the violation card they want to give and it is according to their perspective.

It's truly embarrassing to know that these kind of stunts are getting common these days, I mean I know that promoters are starting to become more greedy to get their cows some favor but buying a referee and a judge to make the situation certain is quite too far already. Yet the governing bodies and committees are turning to a blind eye because even them have also participated these stunts as they are also getting some benefits about these things.

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January 04, 2023, 10:26:34 PM
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That is the fair thing that the organisation should do, if ever that there's a controversy with the decisions coming from the judges who facilitated the fight, if found guilty then they should have that right punishments and reverse the decision in favour of the right winner the same thing that happened with Casimero.

Well, yes it is really the right thing to do, and the weird thing here is that Akaho even acted upon the said rabbit punch that the referee have told, and acting strangely that he was really hurt on the back of the head, which is a silly thing to do because everyone has seen that Akaho is just acting it out because he got pulverized by Casimero, the weird thing here is the record of Casimero and I think he is the 1st boxer to ever win via KO/TKO back of the head punch, that is really absurd.

Yep I agree, They certainly have power to make it an unfair fight if they side in their favorite boxer. Even prolonging a count by a fraction of a second could be unfair to the match since every millisecond count in a knockout. That kind of unfairness couldn't be caught easily and I believe that it needs to make the referee admit or have a very solid video evidence that it was performed during the match. It could be the same on football where referee power is so strong that they can instantly raise up the violation card they want to give and it is according to their perspective.

Yup! It a solid proof just like the Akaho VS Casimero fight there is solid evidence that the back-of-head punch didn't really connect, it was just a graze on the back of the head, but that Manny Pacquaio VS Nedal Hussein doesn't have a clear copy that the referee did cheat, and it was never been really heard but surely if Carlos Padilla the Referee in charge back then doesn't confess that he really did cheated then the public wouldn't even know about this and Pacquaio and Hussein will not talk about a rematch,

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That is common because they don't have any strings to pull or that their promoter has no ties with the governing bodies or committees that will get the outcome to their favor, in those cases, they already know what would be the outcome and that the result will not be in their favor. To sum it up, almost all sports industries have the same problems because this is a multi-millions sports after all, we just got to be accustomed by it.

In some cases, they can not do something about it but there are promoters for that event that will surely use someone to make the fight in their favor and that task was always on the referee's decision-making, well there is recent news that a referee has recently admitted to cheating the knockout count for Pacquaio and prolonging the count because he is a Filipino well there are surely different aspect for the said cheating and allowing Manny Pacquiao to rest a bit and that Referee was Carlos Padilla so in this recent statement referee is surely prone to commit cheating for their favorite boxer, but if the fight is dominant enough are there are no chance for the following to make that cheat then there is no need to worry about something, but then if the fight was close then it can easily manipulated by the referee of the judges,

Yep I agree, They certainly have power to make it an unfair fight if they side in their favorite boxer. Even prolonging a count by a fraction of a second could be unfair to the match since every millisecond count in a knockout. That kind of unfairness couldn't be caught easily and I believe that it needs to make the referee admit or have a very solid video evidence that it was performed during the match. It could be the same on football where referee power is so strong that they can instantly raise up the violation card they want to give and it is according to their perspective.

It's truly embarrassing to know that these kind of stunts are getting common these days, I mean I know that promoters are starting to become more greedy to get their cows some favor but buying a referee and a judge to make the situation certain is quite too far already. Yet the governing bodies and committees are turning to a blind eye because even them have also participated these stunts as they are also getting some benefits about these things.
Not sure if those are common but it could be potentially happen and once these situations had been exposed or really been emphasized or in the main hot seat then this is the time where criticisms would really be there. Its not really something new when it comes to this industry or even in other sports as well where referee decisions turns out to be shady or somethings off and these things should be done on
the most non-obvious manner or else they would be fucked up by lots of criticisms or the worst they might be facing up some legal actions or some sort.

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January 05, 2023, 12:25:36 AM
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Yet the governing bodies and committees are turning to a blind eye because even them have also participated these stunts as they are also getting some benefits about these things.

That was a big allegation from you, mate. I doubt that was always the case.

Boxing associations especially the 4 four recognized as major boxing bodies won't just do some sh*t.

Maybe there are controversial results but that is something we can't directly accuse the boxing association are joining that kind of crap.

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January 05, 2023, 04:05:46 AM
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Yet the governing bodies and committees are turning to a blind eye because even them have also participated these stunts as they are also getting some benefits about these things.

That was a big allegation from you, mate. I doubt that was always the case.

Boxing associations especially the 4 four recognized as major boxing bodies won't just do some sh*t.

Maybe there are controversial results but that is something we can't directly accuse the boxing association are joining that kind of crap.
You can read one here, and as we have suspected, WBC is one body that is being branded as corrupt,

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/346325-47-years-of-rotten-boxing-decisions-and-the-wbc-is-still-going-strong

This allegations has been ongoing for years now that I must say that it is hard to deny. As the saying goes, if there is smoke, there's a fire.

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You can search it mate, there are even Youtube video who exposes it or give their thoughts as what this corruption is.

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January 05, 2023, 04:07:46 AM
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That is common because they don't have any strings to pull or that their promoter has no ties with the governing bodies or committees that will get the outcome to their favor, in those cases, they already know what would be the outcome and that the result will not be in their favor. To sum it up, almost all sports industries have the same problems because this is a multi-millions sports after all, we just got to be accustomed by it.

In some cases, they can not do something about it but there are promoters for that event that will surely use someone to make the fight in their favor and that task was always on the referee's decision-making, well there is recent news that a referee has recently admitted to cheating the knockout count for Pacquaio and prolonging the count because he is a Filipino well there are surely different aspect for the said cheating and allowing Manny Pacquiao to rest a bit and that Referee was Carlos Padilla so in this recent statement referee is surely prone to commit cheating for their favorite boxer, but if the fight is dominant enough are there are no chance for the following to make that cheat then there is no need to worry about something, but then if the fight was close then it can easily manipulated by the referee of the judges,

Yep I agree, They certainly have power to make it an unfair fight if they side in their favorite boxer. Even prolonging a count by a fraction of a second could be unfair to the match since every millisecond count in a knockout. That kind of unfairness couldn't be caught easily and I believe that it needs to make the referee admit or have a very solid video evidence that it was performed during the match. It could be the same on football where referee power is so strong that they can instantly raise up the violation card they want to give and it is according to their perspective.
In exhibition matches, I do believe this is easy to do.
But in official boxing matches this should not happen. If the referees are proven guilty of cheating then it would mean their job and their careers.
I still do think they are only making errors, bad instant decision-making if a boxer is a good actor, or there is just some biased point of view especially if one boxer is known for evil intents, dirty plays, and other bad stuff.
But cheating intentionally can be easily reviewed, I don't know about the judges though. I guess it's the same as them being biased or what.
Well, it will mean they could not sit as a judge again if they find proof of a big difference in the scorecard.

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January 05, 2023, 06:34:19 AM
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Not sure if those are common but it could be potentially happen and once these situations had been exposed or really been emphasized or in the main hot seat then this is the time where criticisms would really be there. Its not really something new when it comes to this industry or even in other sports as well where referee decisions turns out to be shady or somethings off and these things should be done on
the most non-obvious manner or else they would be fucked up by lots of criticisms or the worst they might be facing up some legal actions or some sort.


Well, it is inevitable when a powerful individual wants something for himself he can take it with money, and what he wants will simply make him even richer, I think that is how things work but we can not say all boxing controversies have something like that there are some that surely just the boxing officials, referee and even the judge's agenda that they want a certain boxer to win,


That was a big allegation from you, mate. I doubt that was always the case.

Boxing associations especially the 4 four recognized as major boxing bodies won't just do some sh*t.

Maybe there are controversial results but that is something we can't directly accuse the boxing association are joining that kind of crap.

Yup! it is hard to say something if not proven but for me, there are surely some big known people backing them up I think we don't need to involve most government officials some are just rich guys that want to be even richer and maybe not government officials but maybe the mafia, we surely don't know who's really involve but one thing we really know is there is something like this that is happening in the boxing industry,

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January 05, 2023, 08:48:42 AM
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That is common because they don't have any strings to pull or that their promoter has no ties with the governing bodies or committees that will get the outcome to their favor, in those cases, they already know what would be the outcome and that the result will not be in their favor. To sum it up, almost all sports industries have the same problems because this is a multi-millions sports after all, we just got to be accustomed by it.

In some cases, they can not do something about it but there are promoters for that event that will surely use someone to make the fight in their favor and that task was always on the referee's decision-making, well there is recent news that a referee has recently admitted to cheating the knockout count for Pacquaio and prolonging the count because he is a Filipino well there are surely different aspect for the said cheating and allowing Manny Pacquiao to rest a bit and that Referee was Carlos Padilla so in this recent statement referee is surely prone to commit cheating for their favorite boxer, but if the fight is dominant enough are there are no chance for the following to make that cheat then there is no need to worry about something, but then if the fight was close then it can easily manipulated by the referee of the judges,

Yep I agree, They certainly have power to make it an unfair fight if they side in their favorite boxer. Even prolonging a count by a fraction of a second could be unfair to the match since every millisecond count in a knockout. That kind of unfairness couldn't be caught easily and I believe that it needs to make the referee admit or have a very solid video evidence that it was performed during the match. It could be the same on football where referee power is so strong that they can instantly raise up the violation card they want to give and it is according to their perspective.
In exhibition matches, I do believe this is easy to do.
But in official boxing matches this should not happen. If the referees are proven guilty of cheating then it would mean their job and their careers.
I still do think they are only making errors, bad instant decision-making if a boxer is a good actor, or there is just some biased point of view especially if one boxer is known for evil intents, dirty plays, and other bad stuff.
But cheating intentionally can be easily reviewed, I don't know about the judges though. I guess it's the same as them being biased or what.
Well, it will mean they could not sit as a judge again if they find proof of a big difference in the scorecard.

If intentionally done and the wild social media attacks take place it will mean of their job, I see your point about that and maybe refs are already aware though we can't tell if they can take that risk, most probably if the money that is being offer is really enticing and can't be ignored, those refs can take it and deal with it.

Even they are risking their job, they are willing to take that to have an instant bulk of money in their paycheck.

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January 05, 2023, 09:28:57 AM
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If intentionally done and the wild social media attacks take place it will mean of their job, I see your point about that and maybe refs are already aware though we can't tell if they can take that risk, most probably if the money that is being offer is really enticing and can't be ignored, those refs can take it and deal with it.

Even they are risking their job, they are willing to take that to have an instant bulk of money in their paycheck.

With the nature of their job, I think they won't hesitate to take the offer behind the curtain as long as they see some advantage for them the offer. That's why even the Refs are paid to let the other fighter win, we cannot really see how they perform their tricks but we are certain it's there, especially when the fights are close and they find a way to give the other fighter an advantage like for example letting him hit his opponents in the back head which truly has huge damage if constantly done.

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January 05, 2023, 10:48:44 AM
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If intentionally done and the wild social media attacks take place it will mean of their job, I see your point about that and maybe refs are already aware though we can't tell if they can take that risk, most probably if the money that is being offer is really enticing and can't be ignored, those refs can take it and deal with it.

Even they are risking their job, they are willing to take that to have an instant bulk of money in their paycheck.

With the nature of their job, I think they won't hesitate to take the offer behind the curtain as long as they see some advantage for them the offer. That's why even the Refs are paid to let the other fighter win, we cannot really see how they perform their tricks but we are certain it's there, especially when the fights are close and they find a way to give the other fighter an advantage like for example letting him hit his opponents in the back head which truly has huge damage if constantly done.

I think referee could be as corrupt as the organizations themselves, we have seen some bad calls to the point that it's clear to us that they are biased. Speaking of referee, what do you think of using reply in boxing?

In any case, it's really hard to really have a perfect fight without the referee and the judges messing it up, specially great fights like the Akaho vs Franco recently wherein it was really controversial scoring.
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January 05, 2023, 12:20:05 PM
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If intentionally done and the wild social media attacks take place it will mean of their job, I see your point about that and maybe refs are already aware though we can't tell if they can take that risk, most probably if the money that is being offer is really enticing and can't be ignored, those refs can take it and deal with it.

Even they are risking their job, they are willing to take that to have an instant bulk of money in their paycheck.

With the nature of their job, I think they won't hesitate to take the offer behind the curtain as long as they see some advantage for them the offer. That's why even the Refs are paid to let the other fighter win, we cannot really see how they perform their tricks but we are certain it's there, especially when the fights are close and they find a way to give the other fighter an advantage like for example letting him hit his opponents in the back head which truly has huge damage if constantly done.

I think referee could be as corrupt as the organizations themselves, we have seen some bad calls to the point that it's clear to us that they are biased. Speaking of referee, what do you think of using reply in boxing?

In any case, it's really hard to really have a perfect fight without the referee and the judges messing it up, specially great fights like the Akaho vs Franco recently wherein it was really controversial scoring.

That has become a norm in boxing, don't expect too much, just enjoy the fight, and always believe that sometimes decisions of the refs are not in our favor. Even since in the past, there were allegations already that sports are corrupt, maybe because people are also betting that's why they fix the game to give the bookies huge money, or worst if the fighters themselves would try to sell the fight.

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January 05, 2023, 02:45:25 PM
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If intentionally done and the wild social media attacks take place it will mean of their job, I see your point about that and maybe refs are already aware though we can't tell if they can take that risk, most probably if the money that is being offer is really enticing and can't be ignored, those refs can take it and deal with it.

Even they are risking their job, they are willing to take that to have an instant bulk of money in their paycheck.

With the nature of their job, I think they won't hesitate to take the offer behind the curtain as long as they see some advantage for them the offer. That's why even the Refs are paid to let the other fighter win, we cannot really see how they perform their tricks but we are certain it's there, especially when the fights are close and they find a way to give the other fighter an advantage like for example letting him hit his opponents in the back head which truly has huge damage if constantly done.

I think referee could be as corrupt as the organizations themselves, we have seen some bad calls to the point that it's clear to us that they are biased. Speaking of referee, what do you think of using reply in boxing?

In any case, it's really hard to really have a perfect fight without the referee and the judges messing it up, specially great fights like the Akaho vs Franco recently wherein it was really controversial scoring.

That has become a norm in boxing, don't expect too much, just enjoy the fight, and always believe that sometimes decisions of the refs are not in our favor. Even since in the past, there were allegations already that sports are corrupt, maybe because people are also betting that's why they fix the game to give the bookies huge money, or worst if the fighters themselves would try to sell the fight.

You see no reason for referees using a headset inside the ring but when they do, that is something to really wonder why. There were just hypotheses about referees getting instructions from the top where they could just raise the hand of a fighter that obviously fated to win even before the fight started.

If the money is worth I guess they can be morally negotiated if that is the right term.


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January 05, 2023, 03:36:40 PM
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Maybe the Korean boxing commission was really ashamed on what they see on the Japanese fighter and that's why a swift investigation and reversal of the decision. And Akaho admitted that it he was not really hit behind his head so that admission is enough for them to overturn.

I doubt that Casimero will get Inoue, it seems though that Bob Arum is pushing for Naoya to get an immediate title shot against Fulton.

Although it might hurt those in line, but Top Rank is powerful promotion and could do that to the boxing organizations to request that fight immediately. And it's a good match as well, fans are going to be happy if this fight is going to be made once Inoue moves up.

I do love to see Casimero vs Inoue, actually, I am so annoyed of some Filipino boxing fans think that Inoue is docking Casimero.  I am quite embarrassed actually because Inoue had proven himself but Casimero shamed himself when he lost his belt on a spa.  Grin

Yes, we do love to see that fight in the future, Casimero has been trash talking Inoue when they both have the belts at 118 lbs and probably could have face each other.

But chances are, they could still fight if each other really wanted to push, but this time it will be in the super bantamweight division. I don't think either will be at a disadvantage, both can still carry their power, so it's going to be very exciting and definitely, not going to last the full 12 rounds as both are knockout artist. John Riel will have to work his way to the rankings at super bantam, probably 2 fights more to bring himself in a title contention.
 


That's correct, but it should not be "f each other really wanted to push" because we know for the fact that Casimero will always be willing to fight Inoue, the only problem is Inoue seemed to be avoiding him which is uncharacteristic of a dominant champion. It's necessary that the fans will push this and want it badly to happen so promoter will give us this fight, for now, that's the only way I see to  at least increase the chance of this anticipated fight happening.

Now that you say it, it also gave me that impression, I think that Inpoue does not want to have contact with Casimero, it seems to me that this is something that could be very strange, will Inoue see something in Casimero that he wants to avoid? He is an undisputed champion, I don't think it's because of some panic, because a boxer of his level is impossible, what I think is that Inoue wants to continue moving up in category, I think he can give boxing a lot of good things, in fact when A boxer goes up in category by weight because he gains much more fame, and I think it's hard to be able to do something again with respect to the new weight, for me they are much more valued.

Yet the governing bodies and committees are turning to a blind eye because even them have also participated these stunts as they are also getting some benefits about these things.

That was a big allegation from you, mate. I doubt that was always the case.

Boxing associations especially the 4 four recognized as major boxing bodies won't just do some sh*t.

Maybe there are controversial results but that is something we can't directly accuse the boxing association are joining that kind of crap.

We must understand something, the boxing associations, of all the federations that exist in the world must understand that there is an associated business model, in the boxing industry there is a lot of money that is handled, there is no other explanation, we must always take Keep in mind that for any movement there will always be many very large sources of money, one could even talk about mafias that we ourselves have no idea about, so if an association is attacked in this way, it will not only go badly for the person or persons, because It's like an ant fighting an elephant, it shouldn't be done, I think that's something they should be clear about.

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