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Atleast nobody is selling / buying Cheesy

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August 21, 2014, 12:30:14 PM
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For fun, lets start posting some of the great stuff that devs said, that never materialized, yet, they never have acknowledged as a failure / mistake. No accountability / will to learn from past mistakes. Repeating the same mistakes over and over. I thought VRC was smarter than that.

https://twitter.com/pnosker/status/480875287132246016 (pumping) June - 22

https://twitter.com/pnosker/status/484507995855134720 (pumping) July - 2

https://twitter.com/pnosker/status/486595640873725952 (pumping) July - 8

https://twitter.com/pnosker/status/486670315293249536 (pumping) July - 8

https://twitter.com/pnosker/status/501053069015396352 (negotiating) Aug - 17

https://twitter.com/pnosker/status/501707550551990273 (pumping) Aug -19



Tweets to people and replies aren't pumping. I think you need to take a look at the multitude of twitter pump groups if you think I am a pumper. If I was, I wouldn't be here still and you wouldn't know my name.

You are a pumper, should I put the price up to before / after every tweeted pump you made? Now I will continue to post more evidence then so people can judge for themselves.

You have incredible timining with news releases when price was about to get "soft" Maybe it was you, on your own, maybe it was the pressure from wizrig? I will get a clear picture painted for people. Though It would not suprise me if your clearing up all the old pump material as we speak. I have so much to cover this could take all day.

Seriously, don't waste your time. You are clearly angry because you lost some $. Nothing is a given in life, especially in crypto. Get over yourself. Look in the mirror.

Angry? Not in the least. Realistic? Yes.

I understand people blindly defend there investment money. So you can be mad at me for pointing this out. That is fine. The critical thinkers who may have missed this may want to know about the past.


 
VRC is 4 days late on a major announcement! https://twitter.com/pnosker/status/499944260092043265

This is 3rd or 4th from last post from Pnosker. Pumping yet another failed execution.

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August 21, 2014, 12:31:28 PM
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@ Xosihc - I won't re-quote that last post.

Whats long with such a long post? It's not like it was just one paragraph. It was basically a mini-essay, even with titles for each section.

Sometimes it takes a while to explain what you are trying to say, that is if you actually have something to say =P

I've made quite a few long rants in here myself. There is a lot to rant about with VRC it seems =P

Apparently not for the devs though.. My balls are getting so blue in anticipation for this announcement that it's getting ridiculous.

I mean, how long are they going to string this out? Negotiations are done, now what it's going to take several days to write up the announcement?? That's just rubbish and anyone who believes otherwise is kidding themselves.

The devs are stringing this out on purpose, there is no question.

We had to make a few minor adjustments to the written agreement for the benefit of VeriCoin. We are doing this the right way and that takes time. Each day we are getting closer and closer and the agreement is getting better and better. We are not stringing this out on purpose, that would not benefit anyone in anyway.

LOL, 100+ hours later you continue to string people along. I have an idea for VRC branding, screw "rollback" coin. Lets make this "PromiseCoin" I have never seen a development team more capable of promising to deliver everything, deliver nothing, and then have the community chear and applaud the efforts. They are so good infact, people let reality slip and just submerse themselves in the games and promises that has become vericoin.

I remember when this was a "good coin" Remember what made this good.. It was the promises. What has been DEVELOPED that has moved the needle? Name me one action that has benefited this coin? Please, one product, something that VRC has DONE to make this a great coin? I am failing to find anything other than promises for this coin. If you all want to keep investing in promises from 3 clearly overwhelmed, and incapable developers, then so be it.

I have tried for months to be a part of what makes vericoin grow. Anything I have said / done in the past will not change the future of vericoin when the basics of business are ignored on a constant basis. I have been a cheerleader, I have been critical, I have taken a reasonable approach to VRC for months. I was in, and had domains since the first week of this project. I have constantly thrown my support, and business advice to those who wished to listen. I will not support a coin who wants to be mainstream, but yet lacks everything a mainstream coin needs. A mainstream coin needs a product, not promises. A mainstream coin needs developers who have 100% time and devotion. A hobby from 3 people who don't need the money doesn't sound like the ground of people desperate enough to take that extra step, to make that extra code, ect.

VeriCoin should be everything these developers eat / sleep / talk about. These guys have a life, family, education, and many other things going on. I don't think they meant any of this harm, they thought that a few promises, and veribit would make the sheep flock to the potential future value of VRC! This via twitter @Pnosker in june a 500k satoshi coin. "Count on it!"

Let me start of by reminding you that I gave your first VeriCoin... Months after launch might I add. You bought domains but didn't even own the coin.

Anyway, effects has been in contact with the other party and their words and their contact were very different. It's taken a lot to get to where we are but they seem to still think we are a company or a group of rich business men. They are also not getting back to us quickly. We thought we were ready to go a week ago by things never work out how we expect them to. Hopefully they approve the last amendments and then we can announce.

I finally will add that there are no coins with 3+ full time developers besides those that raised insane amounts of money via IPO. And yet bitcoin survived. And Litecoin and Dogecoin.

You gave me a coin because I was trying to find out about staking to HELP more of the community. Mind you, your extremely generous donation I actually sent back to the verifund. So please stop telling me how I don't have the right to be critical because you gave me 1 VRC!

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August 21, 2014, 12:33:39 PM
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@ Xosihc - I won't re-quote that last post.

Whats long with such a long post? It's not like it was just one paragraph. It was basically a mini-essay, even with titles for each section.

Sometimes it takes a while to explain what you are trying to say, that is if you actually have something to say =P

I've made quite a few long rants in here myself. There is a lot to rant about with VRC it seems =P

Apparently not for the devs though.. My balls are getting so blue in anticipation for this announcement that it's getting ridiculous.

I mean, how long are they going to string this out? Negotiations are done, now what it's going to take several days to write up the announcement?? That's just rubbish and anyone who believes otherwise is kidding themselves.

The devs are stringing this out on purpose, there is no question.

We had to make a few minor adjustments to the written agreement for the benefit of VeriCoin. We are doing this the right way and that takes time. Each day we are getting closer and closer and the agreement is getting better and better. We are not stringing this out on purpose, that would not benefit anyone in anyway.

LOL, 100+ hours later you continue to string people along. I have an idea for VRC branding, screw "rollback" coin. Lets make this "PromiseCoin" I have never seen a development team more capable of promising to deliver everything, deliver nothing, and then have the community chear and applaud the efforts. They are so good infact, people let reality slip and just submerse themselves in the games and promises that has become vericoin.

I remember when this was a "good coin" Remember what made this good.. It was the promises. What has been DEVELOPED that has moved the needle? Name me one action that has benefited this coin? Please, one product, something that VRC has DONE to make this a great coin? I am failing to find anything other than promises for this coin. If you all want to keep investing in promises from 3 clearly overwhelmed, and incapable developers, then so be it.

I have tried for months to be a part of what makes vericoin grow. Anything I have said / done in the past will not change the future of vericoin when the basics of business are ignored on a constant basis. I have been a cheerleader, I have been critical, I have taken a reasonable approach to VRC for months. I was in, and had domains since the first week of this project. I have constantly thrown my support, and business advice to those who wished to listen. I will not support a coin who wants to be mainstream, but yet lacks everything a mainstream coin needs. A mainstream coin needs a product, not promises. A mainstream coin needs developers who have 100% time and devotion. A hobby from 3 people who don't need the money doesn't sound like the ground of people desperate enough to take that extra step, to make that extra code, ect.

VeriCoin should be everything these developers eat / sleep / talk about. These guys have a life, family, education, and many other things going on. I don't think they meant any of this harm, they thought that a few promises, and veribit would make the sheep flock to the potential future value of VRC! This via twitter @Pnosker in june a 500k satoshi coin. "Count on it!"

Let me start of by reminding you that I gave your first VeriCoin... Months after launch might I add. You bought domains but didn't even own the coin.

Anyway, effects has been in contact with the other party and their words and their contact were very different. It's taken a lot to get to where we are but they seem to still think we are a company or a group of rich business men. They are also not getting back to us quickly. We thought we were ready to go a week ago by things never work out how we expect them to. Hopefully they approve the last amendments and then we can announce.

I finally will add that there are no coins with 3+ full time developers besides those that raised insane amounts of money via IPO. And yet bitcoin survived. And Litecoin and Dogecoin.

You gave me a coin because I was trying to find out about staking to HELP more of the community. Mind you, your extremely generous donation I actually sent back to the verifund. So please stop telling me how I don't have the right to be critical because you gave me 1 VRC!

I didn't say that. You asked for 1 VRC. That's why I sent you one. My point is that you didn't even spend the $0.30 yourself then.

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August 21, 2014, 12:34:20 PM
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For fun, lets start posting some of the great stuff that devs said, that never materialized, yet, they never have acknowledged as a failure / mistake. No accountability / will to learn from past mistakes. Repeating the same mistakes over and over. I thought VRC was smarter than that.

https://twitter.com/pnosker/status/480875287132246016 (pumping) June - 22

https://twitter.com/pnosker/status/484507995855134720 (pumping) July - 2

https://twitter.com/pnosker/status/486595640873725952 (pumping) July - 8

https://twitter.com/pnosker/status/486670315293249536 (pumping) July - 8

https://twitter.com/pnosker/status/501053069015396352 (negotiating) Aug - 17

https://twitter.com/pnosker/status/501707550551990273 (pumping) Aug -19



Tweets to people and replies aren't pumping. I think you need to take a look at the multitude of twitter pump groups if you think I am a pumper. If I was, I wouldn't be here still and you wouldn't know my name.

You are a pumper, should I put the price up to before / after every tweeted pump you made? Now I will continue to post more evidence then so people can judge for themselves.

You have incredible timining with news releases when price was about to get "soft" Maybe it was you, on your own, maybe it was the pressure from wizrig? I will get a clear picture painted for people. Though It would not suprise me if your clearing up all the old pump material as we speak. I have so much to cover this could take all day.

Seriously, don't waste your time. You are clearly angry because you lost some $. Nothing is a given in life, especially in crypto. Get over yourself. Look in the mirror.

Angry? Not in the least. Realistic? Yes.

I understand people blindly defend there investment money. So you can be mad at me for pointing this out. That is fine. The critical thinkers who may have missed this may want to know about the past.


 
VRC is 4 days late on a major announcement! https://twitter.com/pnosker/status/499944260092043265

This is 3rd or 4th from last post from Pnosker. Pumping yet another failed execution.

Seriously, 4 days late and you are having a melt down? You obviously don't have enough if life to worry about. 4 months late, then yeah I could see your point. Seriously dude - get off the internet and go for a walk in the park.
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August 21, 2014, 12:35:58 PM
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@ Xosihc - I won't re-quote that last post.

Whats long with such a long post? It's not like it was just one paragraph. It was basically a mini-essay, even with titles for each section.

Sometimes it takes a while to explain what you are trying to say, that is if you actually have something to say =P

I've made quite a few long rants in here myself. There is a lot to rant about with VRC it seems =P

Apparently not for the devs though.. My balls are getting so blue in anticipation for this announcement that it's getting ridiculous.

I mean, how long are they going to string this out? Negotiations are done, now what it's going to take several days to write up the announcement?? That's just rubbish and anyone who believes otherwise is kidding themselves.

The devs are stringing this out on purpose, there is no question.

We had to make a few minor adjustments to the written agreement for the benefit of VeriCoin. We are doing this the right way and that takes time. Each day we are getting closer and closer and the agreement is getting better and better. We are not stringing this out on purpose, that would not benefit anyone in anyway.

LOL, 100+ hours later you continue to string people along. I have an idea for VRC branding, screw "rollback" coin. Lets make this "PromiseCoin" I have never seen a development team more capable of promising to deliver everything, deliver nothing, and then have the community chear and applaud the efforts. They are so good infact, people let reality slip and just submerse themselves in the games and promises that has become vericoin.

I remember when this was a "good coin" Remember what made this good.. It was the promises. What has been DEVELOPED that has moved the needle? Name me one action that has benefited this coin? Please, one product, something that VRC has DONE to make this a great coin? I am failing to find anything other than promises for this coin. If you all want to keep investing in promises from 3 clearly overwhelmed, and incapable developers, then so be it.

I have tried for months to be a part of what makes vericoin grow. Anything I have said / done in the past will not change the future of vericoin when the basics of business are ignored on a constant basis. I have been a cheerleader, I have been critical, I have taken a reasonable approach to VRC for months. I was in, and had domains since the first week of this project. I have constantly thrown my support, and business advice to those who wished to listen. I will not support a coin who wants to be mainstream, but yet lacks everything a mainstream coin needs. A mainstream coin needs a product, not promises. A mainstream coin needs developers who have 100% time and devotion. A hobby from 3 people who don't need the money doesn't sound like the ground of people desperate enough to take that extra step, to make that extra code, ect.

VeriCoin should be everything these developers eat / sleep / talk about. These guys have a life, family, education, and many other things going on. I don't think they meant any of this harm, they thought that a few promises, and veribit would make the sheep flock to the potential future value of VRC! This via twitter @Pnosker in june a 500k satoshi coin. "Count on it!"

Let me start of by reminding you that I gave your first VeriCoin... Months after launch might I add. You bought domains but didn't even own the coin.

Anyway, effects has been in contact with the other party and their words and their contact were very different. It's taken a lot to get to where we are but they seem to still think we are a company or a group of rich business men. They are also not getting back to us quickly. We thought we were ready to go a week ago by things never work out how we expect them to. Hopefully they approve the last amendments and then we can announce.

I finally will add that there are no coins with 3+ full time developers besides those that raised insane amounts of money via IPO. And yet bitcoin survived. And Litecoin and Dogecoin.

You gave me a coin because I was trying to find out about staking to HELP more of the community. Mind you, your extremely generous donation I actually sent back to the verifund. So please stop telling me how I don't have the right to be critical because you gave me 1 VRC!

I didn't say that. You asked for 1 VRC. That's why I sent you one. My point is that you didn't even spend the $0.30 yourself then.

Your point is what here? I asked for 1 VRC to give accurate advice to people I was trying to help with issues? You think that I should have made a deposit, went through the hoops, spend all that time just to find out a quick question for myself about staking? Of which, I wanted to make sure I was correct with the information I was giving, because at the time, and as I continued to do for months. I spent my personal time helping others achieve their goals in vericoin. I don't think you can name 1 person who has been more helpful in the past months during peoples setup issues, to other more serious issues.

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August 21, 2014, 12:47:16 PM
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So, just going to make this point once, cause I can already see fanboys attacking me.

I gave so much time and effort to this project doing what I could on the forums, trying to create websites, products, ect. As soon as someone negative / critical comes onto this forum you have the sheep from each side attack / pump / anything they can do to promote the position there money is currently in.

This is where I differ. I am here to progress technology, not any individual coin. And that is where, when I see things go wrong, I become constructively critical. I have been constructive in my criticism for weeks / months. If you wish to view my current communication as trolling or whatever, that is your right. I have been here to open up dialogue on how to make vericoin great from the start. I asked hard questions, gave advice to create value, ect ect. During this same time I offered support to other coins as well, Whether I own them or not. I am interested in everything related to a reasonable approach to the blockchain, and THATS IT!

I could care less about making a dollar right now, when I'm successful, for the many reasons I will be one day. I will have all the money I could ever need at that point, when I deserve it. Until then I will take my work / business mission to another coin that is prepared to work hard and succeed.

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August 21, 2014, 12:54:40 PM
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So, just going to make this point once, cause I can already see fanboys attacking me.

I gave so much time and effort to this project doing what I could on the forums, trying to create websites, products, ect. As soon as someone negative / critical comes onto this forum you have the sheep from each side attack / pump / anything they can do to promote the position there money is currently in.

This is where I differ. I am here to progress technology, not any individual coin. And that is where, when I see things go wrong, I become constructively critical. I have been constructive in my criticism for weeks / months. If you wish to view my current communication as trolling or whatever, that is your right. I have been here to open up dialogue on how to make vericoin great from the start. I asked hard questions, gave advice to create value, ect ect. During this same time I offered support to other coins as well, Whether I own them or not. I am interested in everything related to a reasonable approach to the blockchain, and THATS IT!

I could care less about making a dollar right now, when I'm successful, for the many reasons I will be one day. I will have all the money I could ever need at that point, when I deserve it. Until then I will take my work / business mission to another coin that is prepared to work hard and succeed.

I'm not aware of the work you have put in. List your top 3 recommendations to improve VRC that have been ignored.
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August 21, 2014, 12:57:16 PM
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So, just going to make this point once, cause I can already see fanboys attacking me.

I gave so much time and effort to this project doing what I could on the forums, trying to create websites, products, ect. As soon as someone negative / critical comes onto this forum you have the sheep from each side attack / pump / anything they can do to promote the position there money is currently in.

This is where I differ. I am here to progress technology, not any individual coin. And that is where, when I see things go wrong, I become constructively critical. I have been constructive in my criticism for weeks / months. If you wish to view my current communication as trolling or whatever, that is your right. I have been here to open up dialogue on how to make vericoin great from the start. I asked hard questions, gave advice to create value, ect ect. During this same time I offered support to other coins as well, Whether I own them or not. I am interested in everything related to a reasonable approach to the blockchain, and THATS IT!

I could care less about making a dollar right now, when I'm successful, for the many reasons I will be one day. I will have all the money I could ever need at that point, when I deserve it. Until then I will take my work / business mission to another coin that is prepared to work hard and succeed.

I'm not aware of the work you have put in. List your top 3 recommendations to improve VRC that have been ignored.

I have a website vericoinsupport, which is one of many. So as an extension of that for months I was "live help" pretty much on the forum, especially during times of distress. I cleared 2 days after MP hack to take time to help advise people to correct the issues. I wasn't the only one, many others stepped up as part of the community to help. I have always been active. I don't need to say what I have done, if people have been here for month than a month you will clearly see how involved I have been. I have named many ideas to promote, many ideas to strengthen the coin in certain areas, and to shore up weaknesses in others.

Not 1 person in the world has more valuable intellectual assets for VRC than I do. So if you think this is something I am doing to profit somehow, get that out of your head right now. I just cannot, in good faith continue to keep my mouth shut, when such horrible leadership has been displayed time, and time again.

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August 21, 2014, 12:59:02 PM
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Im not here from the start but these cheap accusations. "Mine is bigger than yours" are scaring me off. Is that your intention for FUD?
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August 21, 2014, 01:05:23 PM
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So, just going to make this point once, cause I can already see fanboys attacking me.

I gave so much time and effort to this project doing what I could on the forums, trying to create websites, products, ect. As soon as someone negative / critical comes onto this forum you have the sheep from each side attack / pump / anything they can do to promote the position there money is currently in.

This is where I differ. I am here to progress technology, not any individual coin. And that is where, when I see things go wrong, I become constructively critical. I have been constructive in my criticism for weeks / months. If you wish to view my current communication as trolling or whatever, that is your right. I have been here to open up dialogue on how to make vericoin great from the start. I asked hard questions, gave advice to create value, ect ect. During this same time I offered support to other coins as well, Whether I own them or not. I am interested in everything related to a reasonable approach to the blockchain, and THATS IT!

I could care less about making a dollar right now, when I'm successful, for the many reasons I will be one day. I will have all the money I could ever need at that point, when I deserve it. Until then I will take my work / business mission to another coin that is prepared to work hard and succeed.

I'm not aware of the work you have put in. List your top 3 recommendations to improve VRC that have been ignored.

I have a website vericoinsupport, which is one of many. So as an extension of that for months I was "live help" pretty much on the forum, especially during times of distress. I cleared 2 days after MP hack to take time to help advise people to correct the issues. I wasn't the only one, many others stepped up as part of the community to help. I have always been active. I don't need to say what I have done, if people have been here for month than a month you will clearly see how involved I have been. I have named many ideas to promote, many ideas to strengthen the coin in certain areas, and to shore up weaknesses in others.

Not 1 person in the world has more valuable intellectual assets for VRC than I do. So if you think this is something I am doing to profit somehow, get that out of your head right now. I just cannot, in good faith continue to keep my mouth shut, when such horrible leadership has been displayed time, and time again.

So you are annoyed that no one has said "thank you"? What is it you are looking for? Your message is getting lost in your rants.
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August 21, 2014, 01:11:21 PM
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Im not here from the start but these cheap accusations. "Mine is bigger than yours" are scaring me off. Is that your intention for FUD?

No, that are the games we play while we are waiting. Our QB is called Barabbas  Grin

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August 21, 2014, 01:12:47 PM
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So, just going to make this point once, cause I can already see fanboys attacking me.

I gave so much time and effort to this project doing what I could on the forums, trying to create websites, products, ect. As soon as someone negative / critical comes onto this forum you have the sheep from each side attack / pump / anything they can do to promote the position there money is currently in.

This is where I differ. I am here to progress technology, not any individual coin. And that is where, when I see things go wrong, I become constructively critical. I have been constructive in my criticism for weeks / months. If you wish to view my current communication as trolling or whatever, that is your right. I have been here to open up dialogue on how to make vericoin great from the start. I asked hard questions, gave advice to create value, ect ect. During this same time I offered support to other coins as well, Whether I own them or not. I am interested in everything related to a reasonable approach to the blockchain, and THATS IT!

I could care less about making a dollar right now, when I'm successful, for the many reasons I will be one day. I will have all the money I could ever need at that point, when I deserve it. Until then I will take my work / business mission to another coin that is prepared to work hard and succeed.

I'm not aware of the work you have put in. List your top 3 recommendations to improve VRC that have been ignored.

I have a website vericoinsupport, which is one of many. So as an extension of that for months I was "live help" pretty much on the forum, especially during times of distress. I cleared 2 days after MP hack to take time to help advise people to correct the issues. I wasn't the only one, many others stepped up as part of the community to help. I have always been active. I don't need to say what I have done, if people have been here for month than a month you will clearly see how involved I have been. I have named many ideas to promote, many ideas to strengthen the coin in certain areas, and to shore up weaknesses in others.

Not 1 person in the world has more valuable intellectual assets for VRC than I do. So if you think this is something I am doing to profit somehow, get that out of your head right now. I just cannot, in good faith continue to keep my mouth shut, when such horrible leadership has been displayed time, and time again.

So you are annoyed that no one has said "thank you"? What is it you are looking for? Your message is getting lost in your rants.

It doesn't annoy me. I just have to remember the world isn't full of smart, well rounded people. Its another learning experience, as everything has been in crypto. I gave to much credit to the student going for PHD with patents in the real world. These guys seem to be brilliant in the field they chose to go into. I creditted them that they could adapt and create value in economics. The 2 just don't mix. You don't have scientists working on the numbers, you don't have accountants working on the coding.

This just goes to the point I have been making about using the community to create strengths and limit weaknesses. Anyway. I am not going to continue to add value here when I will surely be attacked, and singled out in some way as a FUD'er, or troll. If the community had some leadership, none of this would happen, because the checks and balance of a person with relevant skills would not allow such a horrible choice to be made by the devs.

The devs know, or think they know to much I fear. That it may limit what they are able to learn in this field which requires great adaptation, and a magnitude of time greater than they can give.

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August 21, 2014, 01:12:54 PM
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At least one thing we all just found out should make us a bit easier: @pnosker is still alive
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August 21, 2014, 01:18:16 PM
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So, just going to make this point once, cause I can already see fanboys attacking me.

I gave so much time and effort to this project doing what I could on the forums, trying to create websites, products, ect. As soon as someone negative / critical comes onto this forum you have the sheep from each side attack / pump / anything they can do to promote the position there money is currently in.

This is where I differ. I am here to progress technology, not any individual coin. And that is where, when I see things go wrong, I become constructively critical. I have been constructive in my criticism for weeks / months. If you wish to view my current communication as trolling or whatever, that is your right. I have been here to open up dialogue on how to make vericoin great from the start. I asked hard questions, gave advice to create value, ect ect. During this same time I offered support to other coins as well, Whether I own them or not. I am interested in everything related to a reasonable approach to the blockchain, and THATS IT!

I could care less about making a dollar right now, when I'm successful, for the many reasons I will be one day. I will have all the money I could ever need at that point, when I deserve it. Until then I will take my work / business mission to another coin that is prepared to work hard and succeed.

I'm not aware of the work you have put in. List your top 3 recommendations to improve VRC that have been ignored.

I have a website vericoinsupport, which is one of many. So as an extension of that for months I was "live help" pretty much on the forum, especially during times of distress. I cleared 2 days after MP hack to take time to help advise people to correct the issues. I wasn't the only one, many others stepped up as part of the community to help. I have always been active. I don't need to say what I have done, if people have been here for month than a month you will clearly see how involved I have been. I have named many ideas to promote, many ideas to strengthen the coin in certain areas, and to shore up weaknesses in others.

Not 1 person in the world has more valuable intellectual assets for VRC than I do. So if you think this is something I am doing to profit somehow, get that out of your head right now. I just cannot, in good faith continue to keep my mouth shut, when such horrible leadership has been displayed time, and time again.

So you are annoyed that no one has said "thank you"? What is it you are looking for? Your message is getting lost in your rants.

It doesn't annoy me. I just have to remember the world isn't full of smart, well rounded people. Its another learning experience, as everything has been in crypto. I gave to much credit to the student going for PHD with patents in the real world. These guys seem to be brilliant in the field they chose to go into. I creditted them that they could adapt and create value in economics. The 2 just don't mix. You don't have scientists working on the numbers, you don't have accountants working on the coding.

This just goes to the point I have been making about using the community to create strengths and limit weaknesses. Anyway. I am not going to continue to add value here when I will surely be attacked, and singled out in some way as a FUD'er, or troll. If the community had some leadership, none of this would happen, because the checks and balance of a person with relevant skills would not allow such a horrible choice to be made by the devs.

The devs know, or think they know to much I fear. That it may limit what they are able to learn in this field which requires great adaptation, and a magnitude of time greater than they can give.

You write a lot of words, but don't really say very much. I'll ask again. What is your point? Summarize in 10-20 words max.
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August 21, 2014, 01:42:43 PM
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So, just going to make this point once, cause I can already see fanboys attacking me.

I gave so much time and effort to this project doing what I could on the forums, trying to create websites, products, ect. As soon as someone negative / critical comes onto this forum you have the sheep from each side attack / pump / anything they can do to promote the position there money is currently in.

This is where I differ. I am here to progress technology, not any individual coin. And that is where, when I see things go wrong, I become constructively critical. I have been constructive in my criticism for weeks / months. If you wish to view my current communication as trolling or whatever, that is your right. I have been here to open up dialogue on how to make vericoin great from the start. I asked hard questions, gave advice to create value, ect ect. During this same time I offered support to other coins as well, Whether I own them or not. I am interested in everything related to a reasonable approach to the blockchain, and THATS IT!

I could care less about making a dollar right now, when I'm successful, for the many reasons I will be one day. I will have all the money I could ever need at that point, when I deserve it. Until then I will take my work / business mission to another coin that is prepared to work hard and succeed.

I'm not aware of the work you have put in. List your top 3 recommendations to improve VRC that have been ignored.

I have a website vericoinsupport, which is one of many. So as an extension of that for months I was "live help" pretty much on the forum, especially during times of distress. I cleared 2 days after MP hack to take time to help advise people to correct the issues. I wasn't the only one, many others stepped up as part of the community to help. I have always been active. I don't need to say what I have done, if people have been here for month than a month you will clearly see how involved I have been. I have named many ideas to promote, many ideas to strengthen the coin in certain areas, and to shore up weaknesses in others.

Not 1 person in the world has more valuable intellectual assets for VRC than I do. So if you think this is something I am doing to profit somehow, get that out of your head right now. I just cannot, in good faith continue to keep my mouth shut, when such horrible leadership has been displayed time, and time again.

So you are annoyed that no one has said "thank you"? What is it you are looking for? Your message is getting lost in your rants.

It doesn't annoy me. I just have to remember the world isn't full of smart, well rounded people. Its another learning experience, as everything has been in crypto. I gave to much credit to the student going for PHD with patents in the real world. These guys seem to be brilliant in the field they chose to go into. I creditted them that they could adapt and create value in economics. The 2 just don't mix. You don't have scientists working on the numbers, you don't have accountants working on the coding.

This just goes to the point I have been making about using the community to create strengths and limit weaknesses. Anyway. I am not going to continue to add value here when I will surely be attacked, and singled out in some way as a FUD'er, or troll. If the community had some leadership, none of this would happen, because the checks and balance of a person with relevant skills would not allow such a horrible choice to be made by the devs.

The devs know, or think they know to much I fear. That it may limit what they are able to learn in this field which requires great adaptation, and a magnitude of time greater than they can give.

You write a lot of words, but don't really say very much. I'll ask again. What is your point? Summarize in 10-20 words max.

How in the world do you expect me to summarize months of work in 10-20 words, when your asking me for a summary took 24 words alone?



*Troll on*

Is this the level of intelligence we should expect from vericoin investors going forward? Its all been said, go read it if you care to find out. Put in some work, quit being lazy if you care. I shouldn't have to spend more time telling you how much of my life I wasted on this project.

*Troll off*


Though it really wasn't a waste. I am critical thinker, so this experience just goes to further my crypto education! Smiley I will be especially more critical in future investments. So if you think these devs had it bad, wait until I support another project! They will hate me until they love me. The quality of your developers means everything to the start of a crypto project.

We had our honeymoon phase, they could do no wrong. But now that reality is setting in, its scary. Nothing moved the needle, and promises, promises promises. That constantly fall flat.

These guys came out promising the world, and many gave them credit for being amazing developers / people including myself. I still have no ill will to any dev as a person. I think the games wizrig played totally fooled the developers and many of the community at the start. You can see it in the high praise for that scammer in many twitter links. But pls don't say anything negative about him, because the devs hold him in very high regard! Perhaps he kicked them some money like the other pumpers who "donated" coins to the developers during the massive pump. Look at Crindon. He seemed/seems to have a very good working relationship to the devs. Look at how far away he has stayed from this coin after he pumped it hard alongside the developers.


A majority of whose left here are hanging onto the hopes, and promises from developers, while the realistic people have come to expect failed execution with every promise.

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My god I wish I had time to write a book worth of words.  Every post is a million words of nonsense can't wait to find out the news so I can get off of this message board.


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August 21, 2014, 01:53:03 PM
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So, just going to make this point once, cause I can already see fanboys attacking me.

I gave so much time and effort to this project doing what I could on the forums, trying to create websites, products, ect. As soon as someone negative / critical comes onto this forum you have the sheep from each side attack / pump / anything they can do to promote the position there money is currently in.

This is where I differ. I am here to progress technology, not any individual coin. And that is where, when I see things go wrong, I become constructively critical. I have been constructive in my criticism for weeks / months. If you wish to view my current communication as trolling or whatever, that is your right. I have been here to open up dialogue on how to make vericoin great from the start. I asked hard questions, gave advice to create value, ect ect. During this same time I offered support to other coins as well, Whether I own them or not. I am interested in everything related to a reasonable approach to the blockchain, and THATS IT!

I could care less about making a dollar right now, when I'm successful, for the many reasons I will be one day. I will have all the money I could ever need at that point, when I deserve it. Until then I will take my work / business mission to another coin that is prepared to work hard and succeed.

I'm not aware of the work you have put in. List your top 3 recommendations to improve VRC that have been ignored.

I have a website vericoinsupport, which is one of many. So as an extension of that for months I was "live help" pretty much on the forum, especially during times of distress. I cleared 2 days after MP hack to take time to help advise people to correct the issues. I wasn't the only one, many others stepped up as part of the community to help. I have always been active. I don't need to say what I have done, if people have been here for month than a month you will clearly see how involved I have been. I have named many ideas to promote, many ideas to strengthen the coin in certain areas, and to shore up weaknesses in others.

Not 1 person in the world has more valuable intellectual assets for VRC than I do. So if you think this is something I am doing to profit somehow, get that out of your head right now. I just cannot, in good faith continue to keep my mouth shut, when such horrible leadership has been displayed time, and time again.

So you are annoyed that no one has said "thank you"? What is it you are looking for? Your message is getting lost in your rants.

It doesn't annoy me. I just have to remember the world isn't full of smart, well rounded people. Its another learning experience, as everything has been in crypto. I gave to much credit to the student going for PHD with patents in the real world. These guys seem to be brilliant in the field they chose to go into. I creditted them that they could adapt and create value in economics. The 2 just don't mix. You don't have scientists working on the numbers, you don't have accountants working on the coding.

This just goes to the point I have been making about using the community to create strengths and limit weaknesses. Anyway. I am not going to continue to add value here when I will surely be attacked, and singled out in some way as a FUD'er, or troll. If the community had some leadership, none of this would happen, because the checks and balance of a person with relevant skills would not allow such a horrible choice to be made by the devs.

The devs know, or think they know to much I fear. That it may limit what they are able to learn in this field which requires great adaptation, and a magnitude of time greater than they can give.

You write a lot of words, but don't really say very much. I'll ask again. What is your point? Summarize in 10-20 words max.

How in the world do you expect me to summarize months of work in 10-20 words, when your asking me for a summary took 24 words alone?



*Troll on*

Is this the level of intelligence we should expect from vericoin investors going forward? Its all been said, go read it if you care to find out. Put in some work, quit being lazy if you care. I shouldn't have to spend more time telling you how much of my life I wasted on this project.

*Troll off*


Though it really wasn't a waste. I am critical thinker, so this experience just goes to further my crypto education! Smiley I will be especially more critical in future investments. So if you think these devs had it bad, wait until I support another project! They will hate me until they love me. The quality of your developers means everything to the start of a crypto project.

We had our honeymoon phase, they could do no wrong. But now that reality is setting in, its scary. Nothing moved the needle, and promises, promises promises. That constantly fall flat.

These guys came out promising the world, and many gave them credit for being amazing developers / people including myself. I still have no ill will to any dev as a person. I think the games wizrig played totally fooled the developers and many of the community at the start. You can see it in the high praise for that scammer in many twitter links. But pls don't say anything negative about him, because the devs hold him in very high regard! Perhaps he kicked them some money like the other pumpers who "donated" coins to the developers during the massive pump. Look at Crindon. He seemed/seems to have a very good working relationship to the devs. Look at how far away he has stayed from this coin after he pumped it hard alongside the developers.


A majority of whose left here are hanging onto the hopes, and promises from developers, while the realistic people have come to expect failed execution with every promise.

My point is - in the last hour or so you've written a few thousand words - but I'm still non the wiser. You say you've made points about how VRC can be improved; I've asked what those points are and you've said you don't need to write them out. Yet you are quite happy to write thousands of words of rant/tripe about nothing. If you want to waste your life in this way, then fine, but I don't have the time for this crap anymore.
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August 21, 2014, 02:05:50 PM
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So, just going to make this point once, cause I can already see fanboys attacking me.

I gave so much time and effort to this project doing what I could on the forums, trying to create websites, products, ect. As soon as someone negative / critical comes onto this forum you have the sheep from each side attack / pump / anything they can do to promote the position there money is currently in.

This is where I differ. I am here to progress technology, not any individual coin. And that is where, when I see things go wrong, I become constructively critical. I have been constructive in my criticism for weeks / months. If you wish to view my current communication as trolling or whatever, that is your right. I have been here to open up dialogue on how to make vericoin great from the start. I asked hard questions, gave advice to create value, ect ect. During this same time I offered support to other coins as well, Whether I own them or not. I am interested in everything related to a reasonable approach to the blockchain, and THATS IT!

I could care less about making a dollar right now, when I'm successful, for the many reasons I will be one day. I will have all the money I could ever need at that point, when I deserve it. Until then I will take my work / business mission to another coin that is prepared to work hard and succeed.

I'm not aware of the work you have put in. List your top 3 recommendations to improve VRC that have been ignored.

I have a website vericoinsupport, which is one of many. So as an extension of that for months I was "live help" pretty much on the forum, especially during times of distress. I cleared 2 days after MP hack to take time to help advise people to correct the issues. I wasn't the only one, many others stepped up as part of the community to help. I have always been active. I don't need to say what I have done, if people have been here for month than a month you will clearly see how involved I have been. I have named many ideas to promote, many ideas to strengthen the coin in certain areas, and to shore up weaknesses in others.

Not 1 person in the world has more valuable intellectual assets for VRC than I do. So if you think this is something I am doing to profit somehow, get that out of your head right now. I just cannot, in good faith continue to keep my mouth shut, when such horrible leadership has been displayed time, and time again.

So you are annoyed that no one has said "thank you"? What is it you are looking for? Your message is getting lost in your rants.

It doesn't annoy me. I just have to remember the world isn't full of smart, well rounded people. Its another learning experience, as everything has been in crypto. I gave to much credit to the student going for PHD with patents in the real world. These guys seem to be brilliant in the field they chose to go into. I creditted them that they could adapt and create value in economics. The 2 just don't mix. You don't have scientists working on the numbers, you don't have accountants working on the coding.

This just goes to the point I have been making about using the community to create strengths and limit weaknesses. Anyway. I am not going to continue to add value here when I will surely be attacked, and singled out in some way as a FUD'er, or troll. If the community had some leadership, none of this would happen, because the checks and balance of a person with relevant skills would not allow such a horrible choice to be made by the devs.

The devs know, or think they know to much I fear. That it may limit what they are able to learn in this field which requires great adaptation, and a magnitude of time greater than they can give.

You write a lot of words, but don't really say very much. I'll ask again. What is your point? Summarize in 10-20 words max.

How in the world do you expect me to summarize months of work in 10-20 words, when your asking me for a summary took 24 words alone?



*Troll on*

Is this the level of intelligence we should expect from vericoin investors going forward? Its all been said, go read it if you care to find out. Put in some work, quit being lazy if you care. I shouldn't have to spend more time telling you how much of my life I wasted on this project.

*Troll off*


Though it really wasn't a waste. I am critical thinker, so this experience just goes to further my crypto education! Smiley I will be especially more critical in future investments. So if you think these devs had it bad, wait until I support another project! They will hate me until they love me. The quality of your developers means everything to the start of a crypto project.

We had our honeymoon phase, they could do no wrong. But now that reality is setting in, its scary. Nothing moved the needle, and promises, promises promises. That constantly fall flat.

These guys came out promising the world, and many gave them credit for being amazing developers / people including myself. I still have no ill will to any dev as a person. I think the games wizrig played totally fooled the developers and many of the community at the start. You can see it in the high praise for that scammer in many twitter links. But pls don't say anything negative about him, because the devs hold him in very high regard! Perhaps he kicked them some money like the other pumpers who "donated" coins to the developers during the massive pump. Look at Crindon. He seemed/seems to have a very good working relationship to the devs. Look at how far away he has stayed from this coin after he pumped it hard alongside the developers.


A majority of whose left here are hanging onto the hopes, and promises from developers, while the realistic people have come to expect failed execution with every promise.

My point is - in the last hour or so you've written a few thousand words - but I'm still non the wiser. You say you've made points about how VRC can be improved; I've asked what those points are and you've said you don't need to write them out. Yet you are quite happy to write thousands of words of rant/tripe about nothing. If you want to waste your life in this way, then fine, but I don't have the time for this crap anymore.

For F*%ksake people..take a break! ya wasting a lot of braincells..
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So, just going to make this point once, cause I can already see fanboys attacking me.

I gave so much time and effort to this project doing what I could on the forums, trying to create websites, products, ect. As soon as someone negative / critical comes onto this forum you have the sheep from each side attack / pump / anything they can do to promote the position there money is currently in.

This is where I differ. I am here to progress technology, not any individual coin. And that is where, when I see things go wrong, I become constructively critical. I have been constructive in my criticism for weeks / months. If you wish to view my current communication as trolling or whatever, that is your right. I have been here to open up dialogue on how to make vericoin great from the start. I asked hard questions, gave advice to create value, ect ect. During this same time I offered support to other coins as well, Whether I own them or not. I am interested in everything related to a reasonable approach to the blockchain, and THATS IT!

I could care less about making a dollar right now, when I'm successful, for the many reasons I will be one day. I will have all the money I could ever need at that point, when I deserve it. Until then I will take my work / business mission to another coin that is prepared to work hard and succeed.

I'm not aware of the work you have put in. List your top 3 recommendations to improve VRC that have been ignored.

I have a website vericoinsupport, which is one of many. So as an extension of that for months I was "live help" pretty much on the forum, especially during times of distress. I cleared 2 days after MP hack to take time to help advise people to correct the issues. I wasn't the only one, many others stepped up as part of the community to help. I have always been active. I don't need to say what I have done, if people have been here for month than a month you will clearly see how involved I have been. I have named many ideas to promote, many ideas to strengthen the coin in certain areas, and to shore up weaknesses in others.

Not 1 person in the world has more valuable intellectual assets for VRC than I do. So if you think this is something I am doing to profit somehow, get that out of your head right now. I just cannot, in good faith continue to keep my mouth shut, when such horrible leadership has been displayed time, and time again.

So you are annoyed that no one has said "thank you"? What is it you are looking for? Your message is getting lost in your rants.

It doesn't annoy me. I just have to remember the world isn't full of smart, well rounded people. Its another learning experience, as everything has been in crypto. I gave to much credit to the student going for PHD with patents in the real world. These guys seem to be brilliant in the field they chose to go into. I creditted them that they could adapt and create value in economics. The 2 just don't mix. You don't have scientists working on the numbers, you don't have accountants working on the coding.

This just goes to the point I have been making about using the community to create strengths and limit weaknesses. Anyway. I am not going to continue to add value here when I will surely be attacked, and singled out in some way as a FUD'er, or troll. If the community had some leadership, none of this would happen, because the checks and balance of a person with relevant skills would not allow such a horrible choice to be made by the devs.

The devs know, or think they know to much I fear. That it may limit what they are able to learn in this field which requires great adaptation, and a magnitude of time greater than they can give.

You write a lot of words, but don't really say very much. I'll ask again. What is your point? Summarize in 10-20 words max.

How in the world do you expect me to summarize months of work in 10-20 words, when your asking me for a summary took 24 words alone?



*Troll on*

Is this the level of intelligence we should expect from vericoin investors going forward? Its all been said, go read it if you care to find out. Put in some work, quit being lazy if you care. I shouldn't have to spend more time telling you how much of my life I wasted on this project.

*Troll off*


Though it really wasn't a waste. I am critical thinker, so this experience just goes to further my crypto education! Smiley I will be especially more critical in future investments. So if you think these devs had it bad, wait until I support another project! They will hate me until they love me. The quality of your developers means everything to the start of a crypto project.

We had our honeymoon phase, they could do no wrong. But now that reality is setting in, its scary. Nothing moved the needle, and promises, promises promises. That constantly fall flat.

These guys came out promising the world, and many gave them credit for being amazing developers / people including myself. I still have no ill will to any dev as a person. I think the games wizrig played totally fooled the developers and many of the community at the start. You can see it in the high praise for that scammer in many twitter links. But pls don't say anything negative about him, because the devs hold him in very high regard! Perhaps he kicked them some money like the other pumpers who "donated" coins to the developers during the massive pump. Look at Crindon. He seemed/seems to have a very good working relationship to the devs. Look at how far away he has stayed from this coin after he pumped it hard alongside the developers.


A majority of whose left here are hanging onto the hopes, and promises from developers, while the realistic people have come to expect failed execution with every promise.

My point is - in the last hour or so you've written a few thousand words - but I'm still non the wiser. You say you've made points about how VRC can be improved; I've asked what those points are and you've said you don't need to write them out. Yet you are quite happy to write thousands of words of rant/tripe about nothing. If you want to waste your life in this way, then fine, but I don't have the time for this crap anymore.

Actually the first point he said before people started stringing him out was that Twiitter pumps etc all coincided with when the price was getting soft.  When the coin was climbing nothing, when it started to fall back, bamm something new to hope for and an unloading opportunity.

 I actually said this many many times, "  I trust these guys and vrc might be the coin but the way they are releasing news is from a pumpers handbook "

Every time something new came out I said the exact statement above every time!  Eventually it wore off like the boy who cried wolf.

Heck I even stated the other day they might still have a chance but this latest " super duper super secret my little pony sunshine rainbow lillipop feel good announcement is probably the last straw for so many "  This announcement better be concrete, big, meaningful and implemented already.  Not another promise, underwhelming, and for example not the wallet FEATURE fiat button that ended up being a link to a website!  

What is extremely sad is when the guy came out yesterday with his " Juggernaut " idea I actually thought for a few minutes that was the announcement everyone was waiting for.  That is the level of quality I think many here are realizing might be the quality of the awaited announcement.  That or one that is a typical promise of something down the road that will further lead to 20 or so more announcements and promises that can further attempt to hold the coin afloat.

I even commented earlier when a few were attacking this coin that they sounded like children/stalkers who lost money and had no points.

HOWEVER, the point is valid that the timing of every pump vrc had was exactly when the coin was getting soft.  It is all there just pull up the tweets, the posts and the charts for vrc to compare and see.  It isn't a debate, it isn't sour grapes, it isn't fud, it is a simple fact and maybe just coincidence.


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