jerrylemon
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July 15, 2014, 01:33:12 AM |
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hes probably too busy selling everything off at the moment to "protect" us.
meanwhile half the irc cant get access to their coins.
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BitcoinPorn
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July 15, 2014, 01:34:20 AM |
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I do not own any VRC.
But this was a mature, correct response by an Elite Dev Team... To a massive security breach affecting 30% of coins outstanding.
ONLY a coin that will be defended and managed like in this case... Can possibly gain mainstream acceptance by serious merchants.
I'll bet smoothie's big bag of coins has part-time devs that specialize in excuses.
That said... WHY THE FUCK WAS 30% OF VRC IN A MINTPAL HOT WALLET???
The whole problem of exchanges "owning" Customer coins needs to be changed... There needs to be a protocol change = coins on exchange remain linked to Customer wallet... There needs to be a NEW special class of "transfer"... Your wallet would have an extra line that says "on exchange and segregated".
I could see having the choice to link your wallet to an exchange being something interesting to look into. I think at the least this might eliminate a bunch of people who day trade rather than who are actually supporters of Vericoin. Good point about the merchants, though I don't see a rollback being an option or necessary in the future, the fact that the devs are out there and didn't just let this issue go and say 'fuck it, let the thief destroy our coin' says a lot, surprised people see it otherwise. Mintpal though, such shame. *currently waiting for Bittrix to enable VRC wallets so I can stake the coins I'm buying up*
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MinerP
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July 15, 2014, 01:37:57 AM |
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wallet on the webstie is version 1.3.2 which doesnt sync .. where can i get veresion 1.3.3 ??
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BitcoinPorn
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July 15, 2014, 01:45:27 AM |
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wallet on the webstie is version 1.3.2 which doesnt sync .. where can i get veresion 1.3.3 ??
Refresh/reload page. Open in another browser. New version is up.
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Amalgamus
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July 15, 2014, 01:46:25 AM |
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wallet on the webstie is version 1.3.2 which doesnt sync .. where can i get veresion 1.3.3 ??
I believe it's the version 1.3.3. but it keeps the old wallet when you want to install the new version. I had to do it all over again, but it worked when I did a back up and uninstall the old wallet before installing the new one.
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majeis
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July 15, 2014, 01:48:32 AM |
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wallet on the webstie is version 1.3.2 which doesnt sync .. where can i get veresion 1.3.3 ??
I believe it's the version 1.3.3. but it keeps the old wallet when you want to install the new version. I had to do it all over again, but it worked when I did a back up and uninstall the old wallet before installing the new one. Same here. Installing over the old one ended up with the same version. Uninstalling then reinstalling results in the correct version and connects fine.
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Autodidact
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July 15, 2014, 01:49:34 AM |
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so much FUD in this thread holy cow lol
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Amalgamus
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July 15, 2014, 02:00:07 AM |
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maybe someone should ask psnoker why he was transfering 200k coins to bittrex during yesterdays original outage... it was clearly stated on irc.
Buy wall to keep VRC from crashing on Bittrex. he sent 200k vrc to create a vrc buy wall? sorry probably just dense but not following. That doesn't make sense, when you make a buy wall it's only with BTC and the sell wall wouldn't be in the interest of the coin. I believe you can use someone else's name and make statements for him. My English is not that good but I can sense when I read the comments and they do not seem to come from the dev's. How could he be bragging that he is sending 100k vrc to every exchange and got taken in his own game? It's only Fud by people who want vericoin to crash. I still believe in the coin and in the sincerity of the Devs, who have always done the right thing.
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July 15, 2014, 02:08:14 AM |
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Looking to that much FUD coming from non-holders makes me believe that we hit gold... A thick and rich gold mine! Go go go!!!
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jerrylemon
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July 15, 2014, 02:09:47 AM |
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he sent 100k's to multiple exchanges to put up sell walls to protect the price of the coins, it was psnoker on irc saying this and multiple exchange reps confirmed it. so he takes the loses and not the community. lol.
yet the majority of people didnt have access to their funds even if they wanted to sell
what a joke and scam.
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neurorit
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July 15, 2014, 02:17:25 AM |
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Yeah this doesn't compute. He'd need to send btc for buy support to the exchanges to protect the coin. he sent 100k's to multiple exchanges to put up sell walls to protect the price of the coins, it was psnoker on irc saying this and multiple exchange reps confirmed it. so he takes the loses and not the community. lol.
yet the majority of people didnt have access to their funds even if they wanted to sell
what a joke and scam.
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jerrylemon
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July 15, 2014, 02:18:24 AM |
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the irc transcript is real go ask yourselves.
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neurorit
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July 15, 2014, 02:19:36 AM |
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the irc transcript is real go ask yourselves.
I'm cracking up how similar that accusation of him doing that is to the FED propping up markets, etc
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mrkavasaki
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July 15, 2014, 02:28:29 AM |
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Game over guys! 30% of vrc existence are stolen!! No One will buy a coin anymore that a Person owns 1/3 of the their supply!
Rip vericoin
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YoyodyneSystems
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July 15, 2014, 02:29:54 AM |
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I think this incident will show that rollback options will need to be part of every coin including Bitcoin in the case of catastrophic system damage such as what happened with the 8 million coin theft.
Otherwise regular mainstream users will not trust Crypto with their money - ever.
Don't let archaic ideals cloud the future of this experiment. I think this VRC case will be looked back on as a groundbreaking event that helped bring crypto to the masses.
Trust makes money work. It's only logical that the system can defend itself from attacks that can kill it.
I will favor investment in coins that have this capability myself. No one wants to put their money into defenseless vapor.
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Amalgamus
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July 15, 2014, 02:30:11 AM |
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he sent 100k's to multiple exchanges to put up sell walls to protect the price of the coins, it was psnoker on irc saying this and multiple exchange reps confirmed it. so he takes the loses and not the community. lol.
yet the majority of people didnt have access to their funds even if they wanted to sell
what a joke and scam.
Futhermore he as already stated that the 3 devs all together didn't even detain something close to a million vrc. Only phone calls to the other exchanges were necessary for them to take the appropriate measures when the hacking at MP happened. But I am sure that we will have the answers tonight as there is a hangout on the agenda for the Devs to clarify all doubts. I say tonight but for US it's tomorrow night I think.
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Shinraven
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July 15, 2014, 02:30:36 AM |
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So I have some questions to ask those who clearly have an opinion to what took place. Consider the following.
1) Since you are on these forums, it is safe to assume that you are invested in some coin(s) 2) Say Someone or a group of individuals commit a crime (Theft), in which YOU are the victim of this crime.
Would you not be upset ? would you not feel violated ? Since when is ok to for someone to commit a crime and let the attacker get away with ? Would you not seek justice ? So i guess it's ok for someone to attack a man or woman then laugh in their face and blame them? do you not have the right to defend yourself ?
Please enlighten me
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clovis A.
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July 15, 2014, 02:33:52 AM |
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Is there a new wallet out guys after the problems?
My current wallet wont sync
Download it at their website (and nowhere else) I downloaded from the website. My wallet seems to be fine, unless I'm staking. After staking for 15-30 minutes my wallet goes out of sync. Anyone have an explanation? I was having the same issue, I imagine this is the work the developers are doing today to continue to work tirelessly to resolve this issue for the community. Try to download it with the bootstrap file and be patient, took me like 10 minutes before it looked like it was moving, so save wallet file and redownload, make sure boostrap file is clicked. I haven't had that issue since the bootstrap DL I did download with the bootstrap. I followed effects to cause instructions from earlier this morning. Like you said, it must be the work they are doing to strengthen the network because my wallet is good to go again. I'm just gonna sit tight and see what happens...... Lol, well my wallet is out of sync again. See what happens i guess..... save your wallet.dat file, delete all other vericoin files and download it again, make sure you click on the bootstrap box. I have been staking since the boostrap update with no issue, prior to bootstrap dl, I would freeze with 1000+ blocks unverified. They are working on it. I'm patient. I will try what you said though. Thanks for the assist! Let you know how it goes.... Okay, I deleted everything but the wallet.dat and dowloaded again, making sure bootstrap box was checked..... Still stuck trying to sync with 1000+ blocks remaining. FYI, I'm using the Windows download. Any suggestions, or should I just wait until the smoke clears and see what devs have to say once they get a better handle on this? If that didn't work then IMO just hold tight if you don't need to move any funds. Within a couple hours we will likely need to update. Gotta admit, I'm getting a little worried bout my coins. Still can"t get my wallet to sync..... unfortunately, I'm on call right now and just got called out. Gonna have to pop in here tomorrow hopefully..... shitty week to be on call, this really worries me, especially since i have to leave things up in the air like this. Like i said, hopefully i can get in here tomorrow to get some help.....
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warr1979
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July 15, 2014, 02:34:30 AM |
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So I have some questions to ask those who clearly have an opinion to what took place. Consider the following.
1) Since you are on these forums, it is safe to assume that you are invested in some coin(s) 2) Say Someone or a group of individuals commit a crime (Theft), in which YOU are the victim of this crime.
Would you not be upset ? would you not feel violated ? Since when is ok to for someone to commit a crime and let the attacker get away with ? Would you not seek justice ? So i guess it's ok for someone to attack a man or woman then laugh in their face and blame them? do you not have the right to defend yourself ?
Please enlighten me
Only in the crypto world do people defend criminals. If we can find the people who did this in take matters into our own hands and NO punishment from the law then no roll back. But we can't so if you can protect the people you do it! I still feel for the people who got screwed from Mtgox. How can I we or anyone promote crypto to the masses if we allow this to go on without trying to fight back.
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warr1979
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July 15, 2014, 02:35:21 AM |
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Is there a new wallet out guys after the problems?
My current wallet wont sync
Download it at their website (and nowhere else) I downloaded from the website. My wallet seems to be fine, unless I'm staking. After staking for 15-30 minutes my wallet goes out of sync. Anyone have an explanation? I was having the same issue, I imagine this is the work the developers are doing today to continue to work tirelessly to resolve this issue for the community. Try to download it with the bootstrap file and be patient, took me like 10 minutes before it looked like it was moving, so save wallet file and redownload, make sure boostrap file is clicked. I haven't had that issue since the bootstrap DL I did download with the bootstrap. I followed effects to cause instructions from earlier this morning. Like you said, it must be the work they are doing to strengthen the network because my wallet is good to go again. I'm just gonna sit tight and see what happens...... Lol, well my wallet is out of sync again. See what happens i guess..... save your wallet.dat file, delete all other vericoin files and download it again, make sure you click on the bootstrap box. I have been staking since the boostrap update with no issue, prior to bootstrap dl, I would freeze with 1000+ blocks unverified. They are working on it. I'm patient. I will try what you said though. Thanks for the assist! Let you know how it goes.... Okay, I deleted everything but the wallet.dat and dowloaded again, making sure bootstrap box was checked..... Still stuck trying to sync with 1000+ blocks remaining. FYI, I'm using the Windows download. Any suggestions, or should I just wait until the smoke clears and see what devs have to say once they get a better handle on this? If that didn't work then IMO just hold tight if you don't need to move any funds. Within a couple hours we will likely need to update. Gotta admit, I'm getting a little worried bout my coins. Still can"t get my wallet to sync..... unfortunately, I'm on call right now and just got called out. Gonna have to pop in here tomorrow hopefully..... shitty week to be on call, this really worries me, especially since i have to leave things up in the air like this. Like i said, hopefully i can get in here tomorrow to get some help..... Keep at it I got my coins took a few times and Im not that bright when it comes to this!!
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