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July 16, 2014, 03:41:27 PM
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civilized

What is this thing called "civilized"? That doesn't sound kosher in the wild world of the crypto ghetto.



For western civilization and within the business environment, "civilized" has a lot to do with 2 of the 10 commandments: Don't steal and don't lie.


I deleted my post because I realized that the crypto community is actually okay with what the devs did. The bagholders of other coins are just a loud minority.

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July 16, 2014, 03:50:21 PM
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Does anyone know a tool / app  to create VeriCoin paper wallet as well as restore from the paper back to the desktop wallet.

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July 16, 2014, 03:51:56 PM
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Does anyone know a tool / app  to create VeriCoin paper wallet as well as restore from the paper back to the desktop wallet.

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http://www.vericoin.info/paperwallet.html

Our paper wallet design could use a refresh :-p

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July 16, 2014, 04:07:15 PM
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Does anyone know a tool / app  to create VeriCoin paper wallet as well as restore from the paper back to the desktop wallet.

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http://www.vericoin.info/paperwallet.html

Our paper wallet design could use a refresh :-p

Touché  Cheesy  could use a facelift

I just wasn't sure how to import them back once they were created -

"Spend your VeriCoins by downloading one of the popular VeriCoin p2p clients and importing your private key "

Not sure what this popular p2p client is...

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July 16, 2014, 04:11:50 PM
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Does anyone know a tool / app  to create VeriCoin paper wallet as well as restore from the paper back to the desktop wallet.

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http://www.vericoin.info/paperwallet.html

Our paper wallet design could use a refresh :-p

Touché  Cheesy  could use a facelift

I just wasn't sure how to import them back once they were created -

"Spend your VeriCoins by downloading one of the popular VeriCoin p2p clients and importing your private key "

Not sure what this popular p2p client is...

Thanks

The desktop wallet.

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July 16, 2014, 04:34:19 PM
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what has happened to all the products that was paid for using vrc and for which the transactions were part of the reversed blockchain?

There were 4 retailers accepting vrc directly at the time.  All 4 were contacted and had not done any transactions.  Since mp said it was reimbursing all losses stemming from the block chain reversal they would be/were reimbursed.

People who had transactions moving through the blockchain at the time of the attack from exchanges and lost coin were to be reimbursed by mintpal.

Had this been at a time where the coin was more mature the losses from the reversal could have amounted to a lot more and that would have factored into the situation.  As it stood about 4,000.00 in vrc was reversed compared to 2 million worth of vrc had nothing been done.  It was actually very fortunate it happened when it did as VRC will be a lot stronger now with the users of it employing better habits like staking in their wallets instead of keeping coins on an exchange.  Also the exchanges will all, I am sure, be more careful about keeping irresponsible amounts of coins in hot wallets.  

We can't pretend there are people that were not hurt by this ( happens every day and you can thank the thief and a lapse in judgement by mp ).  Those staking those 12 hours will lose their value without reimbursement ( I assume ) from mp.  A drop in the bucket of losses compared to had nothing been done.  ( and yes those staked coins would have been worthless as well had nothing been done, so a wash there )

VRC itself didn't have any security breach it was bad habits of the exchange and pos owners.  As you can see both are changing quite impressively and atm VRC is actually the most secure pos coin out due to the very attack.

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July 16, 2014, 04:34:29 PM
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This was posted on twitter if people are having MAC wallet issues.

"Attn Mac Users. *File name change (vericoin.conf) MAY be related to Safari Web Browser. #VeriCoin #VRC"

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July 16, 2014, 04:49:08 PM
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People are getting caught up, Is it Mintpal's fault, Is it Vericoin's Fault. Has anyone with common sense aside from me thought. Hey its the HACKERS fault?


If we hope to take this mainstream, here is mainstream rational. Goes something like this. In the real world. A bank leaves its doors open to the public like an exchange.



A robber in the case of the bank, or hacker in case of an exchange, penetrates security, with a gun, or in the case of mintpals claim, a SQL injection. As the thief is getting the money the bank is able to sound the alarm to its security team. As the criminal is loading up his money and about to leave with everything security arrives and detains the man (VeriCoin) Now, regardless of your personal beleif. What would society expect to have done? A sensable approach taken by society is to punish the criminal, and return the money to the bank and all of its holders. And at the end of the day (that was for you Doug), who would you say is to blame for this incident?


A. It is the banks fault? For leaving its doors open to the public? (Mintpal)

B. Is it securities fault? For detaining the criminal? (vericoin)

C. Is it the criminals fault? For commiting the crime?


The easy answer is C. But when it comes to crypto. We are debating between A and B, so far. Meanwhile the hacker has had no debate about how we can better catch these criminals. Its something to think about. If crypto is to go mainstream, we have to THINK mainstream.

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July 16, 2014, 04:53:38 PM
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Does anyone know a tool / app  to create VeriCoin paper wallet as well as restore from the paper back to the desktop wallet.

Thanks

http://www.vericoin.info/paperwallet.html

Our paper wallet design could use a refresh :-p

Touché  Cheesy  could use a facelift

I just wasn't sure how to import them back once they were created -

"Spend your VeriCoins by downloading one of the popular VeriCoin p2p clients and importing your private key "

Not sure what this popular p2p client is...

Thanks

The desktop wallet.

Thanks
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July 16, 2014, 04:56:13 PM
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So,

What will make vericoin succeed once the initial excitement and pumping stops, what makes it worth holding given that it is purely a PoS coin - and is far less established/available/accessible than many other longer and older coins that are finding it hard currently

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July 16, 2014, 05:01:00 PM
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People are getting caught up, Is it Mintpal's fault, Is it vericoin's Fault. Has anyone with common sense aside from me thought. Hey its the HACKERS fault?


If we hope to take this mainstream, here is mainstream rational. Goes something like this. In the real world. A bank leaves its doors open to the public like an exchange.



A robber in the case of the bank, or hacker in case of an exchange, penetrates security, with a gun, or in the case of mintpals claim, a SQL injection. As the thief is getting the money the bank is able to sound the alarm to its security team. As the criminal is loading up his money and about to leave with everything security arrives and detains the man (VeriCoin) Now, regardless of your personal beleif. What would society expect to have done? A sensable approach taken by society is to punish the criminal, and return the money to the bank and all of its holders. And at the end of the day (that was for you Doug), who would you say is to blame for this incident?


A. It is the banks fault? for leaving its doors open to the public? (Mintpal)

B. Is it securities fault for detaining the criminal? (vericoin)

C. Is it the criminals fault? For commiting the crime?


The easy answer is C. But when it comes to crypto. We are debating between A and B, so far, the hacker has had no debate about how we can better catch these criminals. Its something to think about. If crypto is to go mainstream, we have to THINK mainstream.

Thats because the people who are used to manipulating, scamming & conning people in the 'crypto wild wild west' as they SO often like to say, LOSE their centralized power when something is done about a massive criminal act that had the potential to only be beneficial to the thiefs . They get scared, because their 'master plans' and schemes may not work any more.. or are at risk. Then they try to toss fear with lines like ' This is not the satoshi way' like he , was some sort of rule creator, and we must do exactly what he thought & envisioned to every letter. It's about time ethics are brought into crypto. The worst excuse I have ever seen is all the wild wild west comments. People like that , that live that mindset only have one thing in mind. Lets not put BTC on some pedestal that so many put it on, it was the 1st, thats why its fiat value is so high, it has major issues & limitations that are fairly obvious to many.
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July 16, 2014, 05:01:33 PM
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So,

What will make vericoin succeed once the initial excitement and pumping stops, what makes it worth holding given that it is purely a PoS coin - and is far less established/available/accessible than many other longer and older coins that are finding it hard currently

The ability to see a better way forward. As you see, they are not afraid to make a bold stance for what is right.

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July 16, 2014, 05:03:06 PM
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People are getting caught up, Is it Mintpal's fault, Is it vericoin's Fault. Has anyone with common sense aside from me thought. Hey its the HACKERS fault?


If we hope to take this mainstream, here is mainstream rational. Goes something like this. In the real world. A bank leaves its doors open to the public like an exchange.



A robber in the case of the bank, or hacker in case of an exchange, penetrates security, with a gun, or in the case of mintpals claim, a SQL injection. As the thief is getting the money the bank is able to sound the alarm to its security team. As the criminal is loading up his money and about to leave with everything security arrives and detains the man (VeriCoin) Now, regardless of your personal beleif. What would society expect to have done? A sensable approach taken by society is to punish the criminal, and return the money to the bank and all of its holders. And at the end of the day (that was for you Doug), who would you say is to blame for this incident?


A. It is the banks fault? for leaving its doors open to the public? (Mintpal)

B. Is it securities fault for detaining the criminal? (vericoin)

C. Is it the criminals fault? For commiting the crime?


The easy answer is C. But when it comes to crypto. We are debating between A and B, so far, the hacker has had no debate about how we can better catch these criminals. Its something to think about. If crypto is to go mainstream, we have to THINK mainstream.

Thats because the people who are used to manipulating, scamming & conning people in the 'crypto wild wild west' as they SO often like to say, LOSE their centralized power when something is done about a massive criminal act that had the potential to only be beneficial to the thiefs . They get scared, because their 'master plans' and schemes may not work any more.. or are at risk. Then they try to toss fear with lines like ' This is not the satoshi way' like he , was some sort of rule creator, and we must do exactly what he thought & envisioned to every letter. It's about time ethics are brought into crypto. The worst excuse I have ever seen is all the wild wild west comments. People like that , that live that mindset only have one thing in mind. Lets not put BTC on some pedestal that so many put it on, it was the 1st, thats why its fiat value is so high, it has major issues & limitations that are fairly obvious to many.

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Well said. BTC will be replaced as the leader sooner than I had expected a week ago. I am more confident than ever. If not VeriCoin, someone else who is willing to walk in these exact same shoes. Been a long time coming.

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July 16, 2014, 05:06:54 PM
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So,

What will make vericoin succeed once the initial excitement and pumping stops, what makes it worth holding given that it is purely a PoS coin - and is far less established/available/accessible than many other longer and older coins that are finding it hard currently

One simple reason, a user interface I could get my mother to use, no exchanges no intermediaries.

Listen to this and think about what they have coming in the next two weeks.

https://soundcloud.com/madmoneymachine/mmm-s02e07/#t=14:41
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+1
Well said. BTC will be replaced as the leader sooner than I had expected a week ago. I am more confident than ever. If not VeriCoin, someone else who is willing to walk in these exact same shoes. Been a long time coming.


Such classic posts as these must be quote/saved, let's revisit this in a few months and see how much BTC has died.




I say replaced as the number 1, Bitcoin will always be around, I think it will be #1 for a long time. Kind of like AOL.

When the internet first came around my first big investment was AOL. Learned a lot following that investment, and it relates well to today. AOL is still around, but it failed to follow trends and innovate quick enough, leaving it behind. It eventually re-invented itself. The biggest company in the world re-invented itself.

In time, a crypto currency will break the mold and become more senseable for everyday people to use. This might be that time.

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July 16, 2014, 05:31:30 PM
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Every time I try to open the vericoin wallet, it gets stuck importing bootstrap block change datafile. What do I do to fix it ?
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Every time I try to open the vericoin wallet, it gets stuck importing bootstrap block change datafile. What do I do to fix it ?

Mac or windows? linux?

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Sorry windows
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Sorry windows

If you haven't you need to backup your wallet.dat file in a few locations that are safe.

Once you have wallet.dat safely secured off your PC, you delete all your other vericoin files and re-install.

If you are on the correct fork it will be 1.3.3

There is a step by step guide I am trying to find, it was posted some pages back by the dev's.

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July 16, 2014, 05:46:52 PM
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Sorry windows

If you haven't you need to backup your wallet.dat file in a few locations that are safe.

Once you have wallet.dat safely secured off your PC, you delete all your other vericoin files and re-install.

If you are on the correct fork it will be 1.3.3

There is a step by step guide I am trying to find, it was posted some pages back by the dev's.

I never had it on this laptop beforehand so I have nothing to delete..
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