[ANN][VRC] VeriCoin Proof of Stake-Time Currency | New Roadmap Released

[altcoinUK]

I think the most important and encouraging in the VeriCoin operation is that the devs are still interested in the project and working on adding new features. The price goes up and down, right now is down, but the hard work and the release of usable features will take care of the price increase. This is a legit dev team, as PNosker said they are real people building a real money. This transparency is a very unique attribute in the scam driven alt coin market.

Right now people are upset, but 50-100% price swing happens all the time even with real business operation. In the place Russia where I have been dealing/trading/funding IT, telecom and software companies I had experienced with a few 3000% price drop in the last 25 years, there were dead bodies all over the offices, so this is a very calm environment compared to that one, here is even the crypto-history maker scummer pumper WizRig is alive, so nothing dramatic happened here. Price drops are part of the business, even bitcoin has gone through several swing. Again, the hard work from the devs will take care of the price and the future of the coin still very bright.

Which is very encouraging to me that it seems the Devs are finally working on what really matters, the decentralized app feature. No one cares about VeriBit (why would anyone want it when we can pay with bitcoin, no wonder there is only 6 VeriBit users worldwide), the FIAT feature could be useful for a few people but nothing is innovative nor exciting in the FIAT feature, but a decentralized market place or exchange could be a game changer. Please focus on that and try to roll out at least a basic app that implements decentralized features. As you know there are incredible capable and smart people working on decentralized apps, Ethereum, Skycoin, even ViaCoin with the Counterparty inegration, etc., so the competition is fierce, that's why would be important that the Devs try to release at least a very basic but working decentralized app as soon as it is possible. As you know better than I do you compete with very smart guys like Dr. Wood from Ethereum http://www.gavwood.com/Paper.pdf , but if you have something that works (even if it is a very basic app) you can be the winner in this race.

There are many people like myself who invested a lot into VeriCoin, we are not overly worry about short term price changes and willing to invest lot more if things are going in the right direction. Please implement the decentralized feature and I guaranty you many more investment will come not from pumpers but from real investors.

That is a terrible mistake for nothing can lose more than 100%. That's tops.

You would understand that reading your post after that would be a waste of time, wouldn't you?

Agreed, but he made a point and everyone got it, pitty you are being either too dumb or too troll to stop reading past that point, he just made some really interesting points about minimum viable product and customer development in that and some recent posts. I think you are too "smart" to realize how dumb you are/seem sometimes, take it as you will.

If everyone "got it", what does it matter if I did or didn't.

Don't worry, I take your post for what it is: Inane stupidity. Pure and simple. Anything else to discuss?

Or what do you expect after posting what you chose to post, a bunch of flowers?

Well actually yes, WTF is inane stupidity, could you please at least learn how to correctly spell in your moronic posts? and BTW rocket scientist are you able explain why you say what you say like an adult instead of childishly trying to offend like the stupid troll you are? no wonder you  are in the top 5 morons list... meh

I thought in mathematics you could say that there is a more than 100% decrease exists. I mean I thought one could say that there is a 100%, 200% or 300% decrease. Like if your start number is let say 10 and your end number is negative 300 (-300), then my high school teacher described that result as 3000% percent decrease.  But I could be very wrong, I am very poor in mathematics. From business viewpoint I definitely felt in that past that I experienced with a 3000% decrease in my pocket when I provided collateral and I was liable to cover a $300,000 loss instead of gain the expected $10,000, but obviously it was just a decrease relative to the expected gain, and I am sure you are right Barrabas, saying -3000% is just plain stupidity from my part.

Anyway, sorry Barrabas for writing stupid things like that -3000%, when such a fucking genius is in thread like yourself then every single word is obviously very important. As your actions implies sloppy phrases in the forum will seriously effect the future of Vericoin, our chances to cure cancer and the mission to Mars just to mention a few tasks which I am sure you have been involving. The good news is, we are safe, because you are here and frequently point out to people what, how and when to write.

[barabbas]

I think the most important and encouraging in the VeriCoin operation is that the devs are still interested in the project and working on adding new features. The price goes up and down, right now is down, but the hard work and the release of usable features will take care of the price increase. This is a legit dev team, as PNosker said they are real people building a real money. This transparency is a very unique attribute in the scam driven alt coin market.

Right now people are upset, but 50-100% price swing happens all the time even with real business operation. In the place Russia where I have been dealing/trading/funding IT, telecom and software companies I had experienced with a few 3000% price drop in the last 25 years, there were dead bodies all over the offices, so this is a very calm environment compared to that one, here is even the crypto-history maker scummer pumper WizRig is alive, so nothing dramatic happened here. Price drops are part of the business, even bitcoin has gone through several swing. Again, the hard work from the devs will take care of the price and the future of the coin still very bright.

Which is very encouraging to me that it seems the Devs are finally working on what really matters, the decentralized app feature. No one cares about VeriBit (why would anyone want it when we can pay with bitcoin, no wonder there is only 6 VeriBit users worldwide), the FIAT feature could be useful for a few people but nothing is innovative nor exciting in the FIAT feature, but a decentralized market place or exchange could be a game changer. Please focus on that and try to roll out at least a basic app that implements decentralized features. As you know there are incredible capable and smart people working on decentralized apps, Ethereum, Skycoin, even ViaCoin with the Counterparty inegration, etc., so the competition is fierce, that's why would be important that the Devs try to release at least a very basic but working decentralized app as soon as it is possible. As you know better than I do you compete with very smart guys like Dr. Wood from Ethereum http://www.gavwood.com/Paper.pdf , but if you have something that works (even if it is a very basic app) you can be the winner in this race.

There are many people like myself who invested a lot into VeriCoin, we are not overly worry about short term price changes and willing to invest lot more if things are going in the right direction. Please implement the decentralized feature and I guaranty you many more investment will come not from pumpers but from real investors.

That is a terrible mistake for nothing can lose more than 100%. That's tops.

You would understand that reading your post after that would be a waste of time, wouldn't you?

Agreed, but he made a point and everyone got it, pitty you are being either too dumb or too troll to stop reading past that point, he just made some really interesting points about minimum viable product and customer development in that and some recent posts. I think you are too "smart" to realize how dumb you are/seem sometimes, take it as you will.

If everyone "got it", what does it matter if I did or didn't.

Don't worry, I take your post for what it is: Inane stupidity. Pure and simple. Anything else to discuss?

Or what do you expect after posting what you chose to post, a bunch of flowers?

Well actually yes, WTF is inane stupidity, could you please at least learn how to correctly spell in your moronic posts? and BTW rocket scientist are you able explain why you say what you say like an adult instead of childishly trying to offend like the stupid troll you are? no wonder you  are in the top 5 morons list... meh

I thought in mathematics you could say that there is a more than 100% decrease exists. I mean I thought one could say that there is a 100%, 200% or 300% decrease. Like if your start number is let say 10 and your end number is negative 300 (-300), then my high school teacher described that result as 3000% percent decrease.  But I could be very wrong, I am very poor in mathematics. From business viewpoint I definitely felt in that past that I experienced with a 3000% decrease in my pocket when I provided collateral and I was liable to cover a $300,000 loss instead of gain the expected $10,000, but obviously it was just a decrease relative to the expected gain, and I am sure you are right Barrabas, saying -3000% is just plain stupidity from my part.

Anyway, sorry Barrabas for writing stupid things like that -3000%, when such a fucking genius is in thread like yourself then every single word is obviously very important. As your actions implies sloppy phrases in the forum will seriously effect the future of Vericoin, our chances to cure cancer and the mission to Mars just to mention a few tasks which I am sure you have been involving. The good news is, we are safe, because you are here and frequently point out to people what, how and when to write.

You could say that, yes. You actually, amazingly, did.

[socal]

Hey guys just a suggestion but no matter what our PERSONAL feelings are for certain members let's please try NOT to turn on each other.....

[Spoetnik]

wow crashing prices much ? ouch ! 

[lootz]

LOL their is a reason why this guy made the list people just block is garbage and lets talk productively.
http://www.vericoinish.com/index.php/blog/the-fud-list

[lootz]

wow crashing prices much ? ouch ! 

Yea it will pick up again..... must be time to pay rent for most people

[barabbas]

Hey guys just a suggestion but no matter what our PERSONAL feelings are for certain members let's please try NOT to turn on each other.....

Your effort is duly noted. And fully appreciated. Thank you.

But conflict is inevitable in internet interaction. It goes back to the old Mickey Mouse black and white docu they show you in traffic school or, more deeply, to Dr Jeckyll and Mr Hide. Human nature. And it is ok... if you put it in the proper context and don't make a federal case of it.

As it has been proven millions of times -and here very recently-, the bouts of ad hominens and personal exhibitions of raw idiocy hardly interrupt or otherwise affect the exchange of ideas and proactive movements. It all goes with the territory and, if anything, it demonstrates that a project is alive, dynamic and with an active following.

As i see it all is a positive... especially considering that everyone can "edit out" quite effectively those posters that they believe are not worth reading.

Win-win. In my book.

[barabbas]

LOL their is a reason why this guy made the list people just block is garbage and lets talk productively.
http://www.vericoinish.com/index.php/blog/the-fud-list

^^

See? Proof positive of idiocy in raw form. So what?

[lootz]

ROFL This user is currently ignored. I love it. He must be full of positive words. Probably coming up with great ideas for vericoin. I really cant see what you are saying bar, whats that you voted for yourself. Interesting. You should be proud top FUDster at the end of the year gets a prize. It will most likely be a exotic toy for you to play with. Best part is you will respond and I still wont see it. Remember you did this to yourself, thanks for the FUD

FYI-The polling feature was to be used for other things and I was going to take the poll down but every time you open your trap it just make me feel like keeping it up then river dancing

EDIT- You can vote every 24 hours guys

[es87]

Hey guys just a suggestion but no matter what our PERSONAL feelings are for certain members let's please try NOT to turn on each other.....

Your effort is duly noted. And fully appreciated. Thank you.

But conflict is inevitable in internet interaction. It goes back to the old Mickey Mouse black and white docu they show you in traffic school or, more deeply, to Dr Jeckyll and Mr Hide. Human nature. And it is ok... if you put it in the proper context and don't make a federal case of it.

As it has been proven millions of times -and here very recently-, the bouts of ad hominens and personal exhibitions of raw idiocy hardly interrupt or otherwise affect the exchange of ideas and proactive movements. It all goes with the territory and, if anything, it demonstrates that a project is alive, dynamic and with an active following.

As i see it all is a positive... especially considering that everyone can "edit out" quite effectively those posters that they believe are not worth reading.

Win-win. In my book.

*Jekyll & Hyde

[Bobsurplus]

LMAO at all you holders thinking vrc is going anywhere but down.

Good luck to you bagholders, You'll need it.

18664 and dropping

[Bobsurplus]

wow crashing prices much ? ouch ! 

What can you expect. These devs pulled a Ben Bernanke and preformed a rollback to bail out the big bank.

It's obvious this coin will die, the question is: Who's going to hold the biggest bags of this worthless coin!

[kyma]

my vrc client has been all buggy lately. blank popups in addition to the ones that alert me I have the current version.  

[socal]

my vrc client has been all buggy lately. blank popups in addition to the ones that alert me I have the current version.  

Yes effects knows of this and is working on a fix

[lootz]

Hey look bob is back, HI BoB. We are all very interested in your opinion we really are but unfortunatly I cannot see what you are saying. You will be pleased to know that you are beating bar on the FUD list. http://www.vericoinish.com/index.php/blog/the-fud-list

26 votes ahead bro, your mom must be proud of you, (she was telling me how cute he is) I will have an award for you if you beat the other FUDers in this race to the top. Then your mom can put it on the fridge for all to see. (Golf Clap)

Please continue your FUD because all I can see is your name and nothing more. I am sure you are here to assist the Vericoin community in its latest endeavors. You and barabus should team up and get a good vericoin project going. I mean why else would you coninually come back to this thread unless you felt the need to assist. Anyway I truly hope you win because you really are top FUD in my book buddy.

PS. The vericoin party is on monday you should come though and get a bit more educated on the coins current and future projects.

[lootz]

Woooooo YES lets give Kenji a round of applause, yet another blackcoin follower coming over to our thread to talk FUD hoping you will take all your bitcoin and invest it in blackcoin. Yes people we have another FUD contestant please start your votes at any time remember people go easy on him he has maybe 19 posts total mostly regarding blackcoin. WELCOME KENJI
VISIT:
http://www.vericoinish.com/index.php/blog/the-fud-list to cast your vote for top FUDer.

[cryptoholic11]

Bobby is absolutely crushing that poll.

[deceit]

https://twitter.com/dailyfauxpas/status/492954221822484480

[luisb]

yeah.. i had expected a lot more with fiat/vrc wallet..

Well the Fiat/vrc in wallet sounds great.

but this implementation brings nothing in the end.
It's just a link to a Website.

We where saying, at least I was for weeks how innovative it was going to be as I was lead to believe from the promises. Essentially we where saying that we innovated this. It ended up to be nothing more innovative than the forum link that has been in the wallet for weeks.

We created this lofty expectation, and then we underwhelmed people. It was no wonder the price came down. I think this is a trend that can be reversed with a serious shift in strategy to better use strengths of the community. The backbone of Vericoin is the community. The one that went through hell and back, the devs who led us out of that time, and those who wish to make this a positive.

I completely agree. We have a great community and we need it to help VeriCoin thrive. Bitcoin core developers do very little compared to the community. The same goes for the LTC core devs, and Doge core devs. It's all about the community.

Well I disagree.. I don´t think the community got DOGE, BTC or LTC where they are now in terms of market cap and liquidity, but rather early investors with lots of money... I mean which community are we talking about? 50 people? 100 maybe? lets stop fooling ourselves please... if we talk of mainstream we need milions, 10s of 1000s at least, and we won´t get them unless we get the ball rolling with investors first...

[buy4crypto]

yeah.. i had expected a lot more with fiat/vrc wallet..

Well the Fiat/vrc in wallet sounds great.

but this implementation brings nothing in the end.
It's just a link to a Website.

We where saying, at least I was for weeks how innovative it was going to be as I was lead to believe from the promises. Essentially we where saying that we innovated this. It ended up to be nothing more innovative than the forum link that has been in the wallet for weeks.

We created this lofty expectation, and then we underwhelmed people. It was no wonder the price came down. I think this is a trend that can be reversed with a serious shift in strategy to better use strengths of the community. The backbone of Vericoin is the community. The one that went through hell and back, the devs who led us out of that time, and those who wish to make this a positive.

I completely agree. We have a great community and we need it to help VeriCoin thrive. Bitcoin core developers do very little compared to the community. The same goes for the LTC core devs, and Doge core devs. It's all about the community.

Well I disagree.. I don´t think the community got DOGE, BTC or LTC where they are now in terms of market cap and liquidity, but rather early investors with lots of money... I mean which community are we talking about? 50 people? 100 maybe? lets stop fooling ourselves please... if we talk of mainstream we need milions, 10s of 1000s at least, and we won´t get them unless we get the ball rolling with investors first...

IMO, the major reason those coins are larger than the rest is the number of wallets, and people supporting them. Bitcoin will be coming up on 8 million wallets projected by the end of this year. Community / investors who create services will give value to the coin. Investors who trade, and don't attempt to add value are welcome in crypto as everyone should be. What we need is a organized, motivated community, who are willing to create services, go to VeriLeader meetings and events, things like that. Investors in it for the almighty dollar will likely not take the extra time to put into a project as this is not the objective for most of them. Most crypto investors are here to make bitcoin, not to create valuable services, and move crypto currencies forward.

We need investors, we need developers, entrepreneurs, bloggers, media consultants, PR, financial people, all of these make crypto work. People putting money into a coin, for the sake of putting money into a coin will not create value long term. The ones who work hard for the community do. Look at VRCradio, VeriRanks, vericoinis, ect ect. I can only name a few because so many people have great ideas and are working to create value . The community will chose based on quality of the services which ones we will champion and promote to the world. This comes from a community, a community full of talent that we could use to make VeriCoin great.

We need to show vision and create value to bring in more investors. Simply having investors throw money at vericoin will not accomplish our goals. The heart of what vericoin is, and will be, is the community.



As much as money is the motivation for some people in crypto, my motivation is success. I am a believer in many, but not all aspects of "the secret". If you work to be successful the money will come. If we get our priorities straight, once we have success, then we will get the rewards we deserve. We must work to create that value, and earn that success.