[ANN][VRC] VeriCoin Proof of Stake-Time Currency | New Roadmap Released

[CodeHunter]

Doug did say that the fiat/vrc wallet integration is far from finished, and that there's more to come. So they've said enough. They can't come here and cuddle you on every page.

I'm not asking for cuddles. I'm asking them to demonstrate some leadership and intelligence by participating in a constructive discussion about features which would be potentially game changing.

They don't have to say they will implement anything.

Vague statements and defensive attitudes are wearing thin..

Oh you want someone to talk to? Well unlike you, they have a life.

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[Monkeys]

Doug did say that the fiat/vrc wallet integration is far from finished, and that there's more to come. So they've said enough. They can't come here and cuddle you on every page.

I'm not asking for cuddles. I'm asking them to demonstrate some leadership and intelligence by participating in a constructive discussion about features which would be potentially game changing.

They don't have to say they will implement anything.

Vague statements and defensive attitudes are wearing thin..

Oh you want someone to talk to? Well unlike you, they have a life.

Ha. Insulting me in defense of your vague and absent leader.. Nice.

Maybe you're right, maybe they DO have a life outside Vericoin. Maybe THAT is the problem!? Good luck launching a global currency and working full time..

[Morb]

For the last hour in which you've been saying the devs are absent, they've been doing a live talk on youtube and answering questions. 

[PUMPBANDIT]

They even mentioned your name Monkeys being a Verileader.
Stay cool man, I like your input a lot!

[buy4crypto]

Missed the first few minutes. Thanks for taking the time to share with us some things and clarify the vision a bit more.

Enjoyed the hangout. Appreciate the passion for VeriCoin.

[pi933]

I'm not sure how many times we need to say this, but we were aiming to make a direct CC FIAT/VRC system however due to the fact that we are all in the USA and require FINCED compliance as well as other legal compliance we couldn't do that.

Don't sit on this just thinking it's too hard to pull off (not suggesting you are...). Get the ball rolling now and knock out the obstacles as they come, even slowly will do. It'll get done and be a huge feature. The masses need this to be as simple as possible,

FINCen compliance requires MASSIVE amounts of $$$ do you have a few hundred thousand US dollars lying around to permit the FINCen compliance?

VRC is not yet to the point of being worth an investor, myself or otherwise, fronting hundreds of thousand of dollars. However, it does have promise and with the proper path it could attract that kind of interest.

I was simply trying to help with some pointers about building a business or knocking out a tough long term project.

Is the $ needed up front to get the ball rolling or can it come later toward the end of the process? If the later then why not get it moving and then make the final decision if the value of VRC takes off or if larger investors get involved? VRC may become a bit more attractive to the investment community just by being able to state that FinCEN compliance is in the works (and being able to show as such with filed forms etc.).

I'm not in the industry of needing to worry about building a business based upon FinCEN compliance etc. So, yes, I am naive there. I am however in the business of building companies… so, I'm just a VRC supporter trying to put in 0.02 VRC of encouragement/advice.

This is all I have to say on the subject.

[altcoinUK]

I think the most important and encouraging in the VeriCoin operation is that the devs are still interested in the project and working on adding new features. The price goes up and down, right now is down, but the hard work and the release of usable features will take care of the price increase. This is a legit dev team, as PNosker said they are real people building a real money. This transparency is a very unique attribute in the scam driven alt coin market.

Right now people are upset, but 50-100% price swing happens all the time even with real business operation. In the place Russia where I have been dealing/trading/funding IT, telecom and software companies I had experienced with a few 3000% price drop in the last 25 years, there were dead bodies all over the offices, so this is a very calm environment compared to that one, here is even the crypto-history maker scummer pumper WizRig is alive, so nothing dramatic happened here. Price drops are part of the business, even bitcoin has gone through several swing. Again, the hard work from the devs will take care of the price and the future of the coin still very bright.

Which is very encouraging to me that it seems the Devs are finally working on what really matters, the decentralized app feature. No one cares about VeriBit (why would anyone want it when we can pay with bitcoin, no wonder there is only 6 VeriBit users worldwide), the FIAT feature could be useful for a few people but nothing is innovative nor exciting in the FIAT feature, but a decentralized market place or exchange could be a game changer. Please focus on that and try to roll out at least a basic app that implements decentralized features. As you know there are incredible capable and smart people working on decentralized apps, Ethereum, Skycoin, even ViaCoin with the Counterparty inegration, etc., so the competition is fierce, that's why would be important that the Devs try to release at least a very basic but working decentralized app as soon as it is possible. As you know better than I do you compete with very smart guys like Dr. Wood from Ethereum http://www.gavwood.com/Paper.pdf , but if you have something that works (even if it is a very basic app) you can be the winner in this race.

There are many people like myself who invested a lot into VeriCoin, we are not overly worry about short term price changes and willing to invest lot more if things are going in the right direction. Please implement the decentralized feature and I guaranty you many more investment will come not from pumpers but from real investors.

That is a terrible mistake for nothing can lose more than 100%. That's tops.

You would understand that reading your post after that would be a waste of time, wouldn't you?

Agreed, but he made a point and everyone got it, pitty you are being either too dumb or too troll to stop reading past that point, he just made some really interesting points about minimum viable product and customer development in that and some recent posts. I think you are too "smart" to realize how dumb you are/seem sometimes, take it as you will.

If everyone "got it", what does it matter if I did or didn't.

Don't worry, I take your post for what it is: Inane stupidity. Pure and simple. Anything else to discuss?

Or what do you expect after posting what you chose to post, a bunch of flowers?

Well actually yes, WTF is inane stupidity, could you please at least learn how to correctly spell in your moronic posts? and BTW rocket scientist are you able explain why you say what you say like an adult instead of childishly trying to offend like the stupid troll you are? no wonder you  are in the top 5 morons list... meh

I thought in mathematics you could say that there is a more than 100% decrease exists. I mean I thought one could say that there is a 100%, 200% or 300% decrease. Like if your start number is let say 10 and your end number is negative 300 (-300), then my high school teacher described that result as 3000% percent decrease.  But I could be very wrong, I am very poor in mathematics. From business viewpoint I definitely felt in that past that I experienced with a 3000% decrease in my pocket when I provided collateral and I was liable to cover a $300,000 loss instead of gain the expected $10,000, but obviously it was just a decrease relative to the expected gain, and I am sure you are right Barrabas, saying -3000% is just plain stupidity from my part.

Anyway, sorry Barrabas for writing stupid things like that -3000%, when such a fucking genius is in thread like yourself then every single word is obviously very important. As your actions implies sloppy phrases in the forum will seriously effect the future of Vericoin, our chances to cure cancer and the mission to Mars just to mention a few tasks which I am sure you have been involving. The good news is, we are safe, because you are here and frequently point out to people what, how and when to write.

[barabbas]

I think the most important and encouraging in the VeriCoin operation is that the devs are still interested in the project and working on adding new features. The price goes up and down, right now is down, but the hard work and the release of usable features will take care of the price increase. This is a legit dev team, as PNosker said they are real people building a real money. This transparency is a very unique attribute in the scam driven alt coin market.

Right now people are upset, but 50-100% price swing happens all the time even with real business operation. In the place Russia where I have been dealing/trading/funding IT, telecom and software companies I had experienced with a few 3000% price drop in the last 25 years, there were dead bodies all over the offices, so this is a very calm environment compared to that one, here is even the crypto-history maker scummer pumper WizRig is alive, so nothing dramatic happened here. Price drops are part of the business, even bitcoin has gone through several swing. Again, the hard work from the devs will take care of the price and the future of the coin still very bright.

Which is very encouraging to me that it seems the Devs are finally working on what really matters, the decentralized app feature. No one cares about VeriBit (why would anyone want it when we can pay with bitcoin, no wonder there is only 6 VeriBit users worldwide), the FIAT feature could be useful for a few people but nothing is innovative nor exciting in the FIAT feature, but a decentralized market place or exchange could be a game changer. Please focus on that and try to roll out at least a basic app that implements decentralized features. As you know there are incredible capable and smart people working on decentralized apps, Ethereum, Skycoin, even ViaCoin with the Counterparty inegration, etc., so the competition is fierce, that's why would be important that the Devs try to release at least a very basic but working decentralized app as soon as it is possible. As you know better than I do you compete with very smart guys like Dr. Wood from Ethereum http://www.gavwood.com/Paper.pdf , but if you have something that works (even if it is a very basic app) you can be the winner in this race.

There are many people like myself who invested a lot into VeriCoin, we are not overly worry about short term price changes and willing to invest lot more if things are going in the right direction. Please implement the decentralized feature and I guaranty you many more investment will come not from pumpers but from real investors.

That is a terrible mistake for nothing can lose more than 100%. That's tops.

You would understand that reading your post after that would be a waste of time, wouldn't you?

Agreed, but he made a point and everyone got it, pitty you are being either too dumb or too troll to stop reading past that point, he just made some really interesting points about minimum viable product and customer development in that and some recent posts. I think you are too "smart" to realize how dumb you are/seem sometimes, take it as you will.

If everyone "got it", what does it matter if I did or didn't.

Don't worry, I take your post for what it is: Inane stupidity. Pure and simple. Anything else to discuss?

Or what do you expect after posting what you chose to post, a bunch of flowers?

Well actually yes, WTF is inane stupidity, could you please at least learn how to correctly spell in your moronic posts? and BTW rocket scientist are you able explain why you say what you say like an adult instead of childishly trying to offend like the stupid troll you are? no wonder you  are in the top 5 morons list... meh

I thought in mathematics you could say that there is a more than 100% decrease exists. I mean I thought one could say that there is a 100%, 200% or 300% decrease. Like if your start number is let say 10 and your end number is negative 300 (-300), then my high school teacher described that result as 3000% percent decrease.  But I could be very wrong, I am very poor in mathematics. From business viewpoint I definitely felt in that past that I experienced with a 3000% decrease in my pocket when I provided collateral and I was liable to cover a $300,000 loss instead of gain the expected $10,000, but obviously it was just a decrease relative to the expected gain, and I am sure you are right Barrabas, saying -3000% is just plain stupidity from my part.

Anyway, sorry Barrabas for writing stupid things like that -3000%, when such a fucking genius is in thread like yourself then every single word is obviously very important. As your actions implies sloppy phrases in the forum will seriously effect the future of Vericoin, our chances to cure cancer and the mission to Mars just to mention a few tasks which I am sure you have been involving. The good news is, we are safe, because you are here and frequently point out to people what, how and when to write.

You could say that, yes. You actually, amazingly, did.

[socal]

Hey guys just a suggestion but no matter what our PERSONAL feelings are for certain members let's please try NOT to turn on each other.....

[Spoetnik]

wow crashing prices much ? ouch ! 

[lootz]

LOL their is a reason why this guy made the list people just block is garbage and lets talk productively.
http://www.vericoinish.com/index.php/blog/the-fud-list

[lootz]

wow crashing prices much ? ouch ! 

Yea it will pick up again..... must be time to pay rent for most people

[barabbas]

Hey guys just a suggestion but no matter what our PERSONAL feelings are for certain members let's please try NOT to turn on each other.....

Your effort is duly noted. And fully appreciated. Thank you.

But conflict is inevitable in internet interaction. It goes back to the old Mickey Mouse black and white docu they show you in traffic school or, more deeply, to Dr Jeckyll and Mr Hide. Human nature. And it is ok... if you put it in the proper context and don't make a federal case of it.

As it has been proven millions of times -and here very recently-, the bouts of ad hominens and personal exhibitions of raw idiocy hardly interrupt or otherwise affect the exchange of ideas and proactive movements. It all goes with the territory and, if anything, it demonstrates that a project is alive, dynamic and with an active following.

As i see it all is a positive... especially considering that everyone can "edit out" quite effectively those posters that they believe are not worth reading.

Win-win. In my book.

[barabbas]

LOL their is a reason why this guy made the list people just block is garbage and lets talk productively.
http://www.vericoinish.com/index.php/blog/the-fud-list

^^

See? Proof positive of idiocy in raw form. So what?

[lootz]

ROFL This user is currently ignored. I love it. He must be full of positive words. Probably coming up with great ideas for vericoin. I really cant see what you are saying bar, whats that you voted for yourself. Interesting. You should be proud top FUDster at the end of the year gets a prize. It will most likely be a exotic toy for you to play with. Best part is you will respond and I still wont see it. Remember you did this to yourself, thanks for the FUD

FYI-The polling feature was to be used for other things and I was going to take the poll down but every time you open your trap it just make me feel like keeping it up then river dancing

EDIT- You can vote every 24 hours guys

[es87]

Hey guys just a suggestion but no matter what our PERSONAL feelings are for certain members let's please try NOT to turn on each other.....

Your effort is duly noted. And fully appreciated. Thank you.

But conflict is inevitable in internet interaction. It goes back to the old Mickey Mouse black and white docu they show you in traffic school or, more deeply, to Dr Jeckyll and Mr Hide. Human nature. And it is ok... if you put it in the proper context and don't make a federal case of it.

As it has been proven millions of times -and here very recently-, the bouts of ad hominens and personal exhibitions of raw idiocy hardly interrupt or otherwise affect the exchange of ideas and proactive movements. It all goes with the territory and, if anything, it demonstrates that a project is alive, dynamic and with an active following.

As i see it all is a positive... especially considering that everyone can "edit out" quite effectively those posters that they believe are not worth reading.

Win-win. In my book.

*Jekyll & Hyde

[Bobsurplus]

LMAO at all you holders thinking vrc is going anywhere but down.

Good luck to you bagholders, You'll need it.

18664 and dropping

[Bobsurplus]

wow crashing prices much ? ouch ! 

What can you expect. These devs pulled a Ben Bernanke and preformed a rollback to bail out the big bank.

It's obvious this coin will die, the question is: Who's going to hold the biggest bags of this worthless coin!

[kyma]

my vrc client has been all buggy lately. blank popups in addition to the ones that alert me I have the current version.  

[socal]

my vrc client has been all buggy lately. blank popups in addition to the ones that alert me I have the current version.  

Yes effects knows of this and is working on a fix