[ANN][VRC] VeriCoin Proof of Stake-Time Currency | New Roadmap Released

[MAD945]

Hey sry guys I have not been able to follow the thread due to being busy and not wanting to dig through the random stupidity to get at the actual conversation, what address is the donation for the new dev (that's what we are talking about right? Lol) Anyway someone PM me plz and I'll shoot over some VRC

Hey socal the Devs and Dev4 are just talking right now...no decision or fund has been made yet.

[souljah1h]

Nobody has taken the roll of Virtual Currency incubator.

I like this. It's VeriCombinator. 

Isnt Veribank incubator?

[MAD945]

Like blockchain 2 features, which I have been banging on here for a while. Again, nothing is a certainly winning recipe, saying the blockchain 2 feature would help is speculation as well.

Ethereum needs a competitor.

That's absolutely correct.

Like blockchain 2 features, which I have been banging on here for a while. Again, nothing is a certainly winning recipe, saying the blockchain 2 feature would help is speculation as well.

Given Dev3's interest in this area and the soon to be expected frenzy that will seek out blockchain 2.0 apps, this would be a smart move.

I am not sure about that seeing the progress and lack of expertise in the area. When I asked EffectsToCause two days ago he couldn't say any concrete information about the progress, it seems to me the devs can't even complete their first white paper. Then how far are they from Gavin Wood's excellent yellow paper that is not only a high level software document but a remarkable scientific paper in my opinion. If you are talking about competing with Ethereum then you compete with Gavin Wood and Buterin, not an easy task at all :-))

How do you know Gavin didn't work for months on that yellow paper? Give Doug a break, I talk to him frequently on IRC and he is working hard on multiple things at once. I know what your going to say "He needs to Prioritize!", while I do agree that there should be a steady follow of releases it doesn't always work out that way.

Mass adoption is a possibility but is a long way off and there may be to many steps to achieve this lofty goal.

I think what Vericoin needs to do is focus on the currency aspect...even bitcoin hasn't even achieved this in my eyes.

We need to focus on the three S's;

1. Simple - simple to use, simple to understand

2. Secure - needs to be the most secure crypto there is, password to send, 2FA, multi-sig

3. Spendable - this one is hardest aspect that all of crypto is dealing with...why do people need to use it? I think we should be focusing on being your own bank, you are in control of your money. How its spent, how its stored, how it's saved! We need to show the long-term and short-term aspects...

Sorry guys these are just random thoughts following out of my brain...just woke up lol

[ereborltc]

well I'm really happy people are finally talking professionally and getting along... having productive convos and debates. i hope this continues ! I'm useless to help in those departments, not gonna pretend but i think there are tons of great ideas and points made in the last few pages and i really hope you guys who do work on this and have the knowledge to do so keep it up and stay civil so we can actually move forward... I'm just a useless investor/cheerleader according to the aggressive ppl in this thread(no need to mention who everyone knows who they are) so ill just keep doing what i do best and keep accumulating.. i always believed vericoin was gonna be the coin to break through and set new standards, and i still do!

great to see positive ppl again!

[ScottAllyn]

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How do you know Gavin didn't work for months on that yellow paper? Give Doug a break, I talk to him frequently on IRC and he is working hard on multiple things at once. I know what your going to say "He needs to Prioritize!", while I do agree that there should be a steady follow of releases it doesn't always work out that way.

One of the other coins that I'm invested in is Viacoin, which has dropped ~70% in the last two weeks. As expected, some of the Viacoin community members are getting "fidgety". The more vocal among them are pointing worriedly at the decline and asking why there haven't been any updates (ring any bells?). btcdrak has an excellent reply, which I think can be applied to VeriCoin, as well:

The big problem is, the reality of it, developing technology for a coin is not a linear progression. It's not like baking a cake where you can predict with high degree of success exactly when it will be ready. Software throws up unexpected bugs, or you get unexpected issues that turn out the be more complex than you thought. You discover bugs in upstream libraries which take time to resolve. This is all very time consuming. Coinmarkets are always looking for the next thing, and the next hype, meantime we've got our heads down working so maybe it doesnt look like stuff is going on.

[yoshiwatusi]

How do you know Gavin didn't work for months on that yellow paper? Give Doug a break, I talk to him frequently on IRC and he is working hard on multiple things at once. I know what your going to say "He needs to Prioritize!", while I do agree that there should be a steady follow of releases it doesn't always work out that way.

Mass adoption is a possibility but is a long way off and there may be to many steps to achieve this lofty goal.

I think what Vericoin needs to do is focus on the currency aspect...even bitcoin hasn't even achieved this in my eyes.

We need to focus on the three S's;

1. Simple - simple to use, simple to understand

2. Secure - needs to be the most secure crypto there is, password to send, 2FA, multi-sig

3. Spendable - this one is hardest aspect that all of crypto is dealing with...why do people need to use it? I think we should be focusing on being your own bank, you are in control of your money. How its spent, how its stored, how it's saved! We need to show the long-term and short-term aspects...

Sorry guys these are just random thoughts following out of my brain...just woke up lol

aside from vericoin, I invested in bitsharesx - because i find there are a lot of intelligent people on that thread~lol. to be honest tho, my head hurts reading what they are saying - it is very interesting and futuristic, but i doubt the general public can easily grasp what it is for..i'm just picking up on it.

so i agree with your 3's

[MAD945]

[...]
How do you know Gavin didn't work for months on that yellow paper? Give Doug a break, I talk to him frequently on IRC and he is working hard on multiple things at once. I know what your going to say "He needs to Prioritize!", while I do agree that there should be a steady follow of releases it doesn't always work out that way.

One of the other coins that I'm invested in is Viacoin, which has dropped ~70% in the last two weeks. As expected, some of the Viacoin community members are getting "fidgety". The more vocal among them are pointing worriedly at the decline and asking why there haven't been any updates (ring any bells?). btcdrak has an excellent reply, which I think can be applied to VeriCoin, as well:

The big problem is, the reality of it, developing technology for a coin is not a linear progression. It's not like baking a cake where you can predict with high degree of success exactly when it will be ready. Software throws up unexpected bugs, or you get unexpected issues that turn out the be more complex than you thought. You discover bugs in upstream libraries which take time to resolve. This is all very time consuming. Coinmarkets are always looking for the next thing, and the next hype, meantime we've got our heads down working so maybe it doesnt look like stuff is going on.

Thanks for that Scott...great quote from btcdrak. Hopefully the people who are complaining that things aren't being released and things aren't progress can be put into prospective. You guys aren't doing the work so how bout show some respect! Let the Devs do their work, be thankful that they are here to continue their work, and they are not giving up when the pressure is on.

[MAD945]

How do you know Gavin didn't work for months on that yellow paper? Give Doug a break, I talk to him frequently on IRC and he is working hard on multiple things at once. I know what your going to say "He needs to Prioritize!", while I do agree that there should be a steady follow of releases it doesn't always work out that way.

Mass adoption is a possibility but is a long way off and there may be to many steps to achieve this lofty goal.

I think what Vericoin needs to do is focus on the currency aspect...even bitcoin hasn't even achieved this in my eyes.

We need to focus on the three S's;

1. Simple - simple to use, simple to understand

2. Secure - needs to be the most secure crypto there is, password to send, 2FA, multi-sig

3. Spendable - this one is hardest aspect that all of crypto is dealing with...why do people need to use it? I think we should be focusing on being your own bank, you are in control of your money. How its spent, how its stored, how it's saved! We need to show the long-term and short-term aspects...

Sorry guys these are just random thoughts following out of my brain...just woke up lol

aside from vericoin, I invested in bitsharesx - because i find there are a lot of intelligent people on that thread~lol. to be honest tho, my head hurts reading what they are saying - it is very interesting and futuristic, but i doubt the general public can easily grasp what it is for..i'm just picking up on it.

so i agree with your 3's

Thanks Yoshi!

Like ereborltc, I'm an investor and have limited programming skills(working on that, decided to go back to school for this very thing). But I think people need to share their thoughts and ideas. This is the communities coin, not just the Devs...they've repeated this over and over.

I'm really liking this calm and constructive discussion going on in the last few pages, I'm really hoping this continues. Just in the last few posts; some great ideas and thoughts.

This is how I remembered the Vericoin community and why I invested in it.

For a select few who seem to want to be the bull in the china shop....I think we should just ignore and continue discussing and sharing our thoughts and ideas.

[effectsToCause]

Going into detail with 'dev4' on the technical aspects, it's very intriguing and potentially very VeriExciting stuff.  Discussions ongoing...

[warr1979]

Going into detail with 'dev4' on the technical aspects, it's very intriguing and potentially very VeriExciting stuff.  Discussions ongoing...

If you bring him or a new developer there will be full disclosure of who he is?? He will not be the wizard of Oz??

[effectsToCause]

Going into detail with 'dev4' on the technical aspects, it's very intriguing and potentially very VeriExciting stuff.  Discussions ongoing...

If you bring him or a new developer there will be full disclosure of who he is?? He will not be the wizard of Oz??

He would make an announcement himself about his working relationship with us.

[MAD945]

Going into detail with 'dev4' on the technical aspects, it's very intriguing and potentially very VeriExciting stuff.  Discussions ongoing...

If you bring him or a new developer there will be full disclosure of who he is?? He will not be the wizard of Oz??

He would make an announcement himself about his working relationship with us.

Veri Nice...please keep us posted!

[kasman5]

Prediction: Dev4 is David Zimbeck who will bring BlackHalo to Vericoin.

Who else is there it could be? Peter Todd offers consulting at $50 an hour?

[effectsToCause]

Prediction: Dev4 is David Zimbeck who will bring BlackHalo to Vericoin.

Who else is there it could be? Peter Todd offers consulting at $50 an hour?

No though we have been in talks with him.

[kasman5]

Prediction: Dev4 is David Zimbeck who will bring BlackHalo to Vericoin.

Who else is there it could be? Peter Todd offers consulting at $50 an hour?

No though we have been in talks with him.

Who both of them?

Either way it's good to see the Calibre of the potential dev4 your looking for is high.

[criptix]

Prediction: Dev4 is David Zimbeck who will bring BlackHalo to Vericoin.

Who else is there it could be? Peter Todd offers consulting at $50 an hour?

No though we have been in talks with him.

If its the person i think it is - u guys could not make a better decision as to work with him.
I will start preparing pictures of rockets anf the moon

[warr1979]

Prediction: Dev4 is David Zimbeck who will bring BlackHalo to Vericoin.

Who else is there it could be? Peter Todd offers consulting at $50 an hour?

No though we have been in talks with him.

If its the person i think it is - u guys could not make a better decision as to work with him.
I will start preparing pictures of rockets anf the moon

As a not so tech guy which would assume to be the future avg. user black halo was a fail.  One I'm a Mac man so I can't get it. Two I have to download a program I don't trust crypto that much to keep downloading programs especially from third parties.  Three if I want to use a tablet as a POS contract I can't with black halo.  Now I'm not saying the black halo idea isn't a good one it's just not very functional.

[criptix]

Prediction: Dev4 is David Zimbeck who will bring BlackHalo to Vericoin.

Who else is there it could be? Peter Todd offers consulting at $50 an hour?

No though we have been in talks with him.

If its the person i think it is - u guys could not make a better decision as to work with him.
I will start preparing pictures of rockets anf the moon

As a not so tech guy which would assume to be the future avg. user black halo was a fail.  One I'm a Mac man so I can't get it. Two I have to download a program I don't trust crypto that much to keep downloading programs especially from third parties.  Three if I want to use a tablet as a POS contract I can't with black halo.  Now I'm not saying the black halo idea isn't a good one it's just not very functional.

If im correct, we will get stuff far superior to blackhalo and co

[barabbas]

Going into detail with 'dev4' on the technical aspects, it's very intriguing and potentially very VeriExciting stuff.  Discussions ongoing...

If you bring him or a new developer there will be full disclosure of who he is?? He will not be the wizard of Oz??

He would make an announcement himself about his working relationship with us.

Veri Nice...please keep us posted!

See Doug? This is the EXACT type of "communication" that is NOT needed and is counter productive. As a matter of fact, it's pure gossip.

Nobody cares how interesting you think it can be. Nobody cares who you have talked to. Nobody SHOULD care, that is... You are discussing a possible working relationship of whose principles we, stakeholders, are fully aware already, even in details, there's only ONE THING to communicate, when and if done: The hiring -or not- of Dev4 and his ALREADY enacted -or started to enact- contributions. THAT'S IT. The rest is just unnecessary fluff.

[criptix]

Going into detail with 'dev4' on the technical aspects, it's very intriguing and potentially very VeriExciting stuff.  Discussions ongoing...

If you bring him or a new developer there will be full disclosure of who he is?? He will not be the wizard of Oz??

He would make an announcement himself about his working relationship with us.

Veri Nice...please keep us posted!

See Doug? This is the EXACT type of "communication" that is NOT needed and is counter productive. As a matter of fact, it's pure gossip.

Nobody cares how interesting you think it can be. Nobody cares who you have talked to. Nobody SHOULD care, that is... You are discussing a possible working relationship of whose principles we, stakeholders, are fully aware already, even in details, there's only ONE THING to communicate, when and if done: The hiring -or not- of Dev4 and his ALREADY enacted -or started to enact- contributions. THAT'S IT. The rest is just unnecessary fluff.

I am really interested.
And im pretty sure i have a bigger stake in vrc then you