korm
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October 19, 2017, 07:30:40 AM |
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What miner are you using for CPU and how many threads? Seems low, are you using CPUMiner Multi? My recent tests showed me that you can get double the hashrate with xmrig and aeon-stak-cpu
I'm nub, so in windows 10 - minergate soft for CPU (4 threads, dont use this PC for another work) & aeon-stak-nvidia for GPU I was glad that I could run the mining on the video card. Therefore, I do not remember where I downloaded it. I tried a lot of different software. Only one works.
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stoffu
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October 19, 2017, 07:38:24 AM |
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People, let's not forget that there's a practical and efficient solution for solo mining using the stratum proxy: https://github.com/sammy007/monero-stratum/tree/aeonYou can use any dedicated CPU/GPU miners like in pool mining; the only difference is that you run your own node (which is good for decentralization) and you get the entire block reward to your wallet. This should be logically the most cost-effective way of mining since there's no pool fee to pay (you're your own pool). I've set up CPU & GPU miners on my home computers which generate around 4kH/s in total, and I find a block every week or two weeks. This may sound like too infrequent for many people, but once you get used to it and feel confident that you'll be eventually rewarded at the predicted rate over the long run, it's not bad at all (the variance can be arbitrarily large, though).
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thehihoguy
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October 19, 2017, 08:07:23 AM |
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What miner are you using for CPU and how many threads? Seems low, are you using CPUMiner Multi? My recent tests showed me that you can get double the hashrate with xmrig and aeon-stak-cpu
I'm nub, so in windows 10 - minergate soft for CPU (4 threads, dont use this PC for another work) & aeon-stak-nvidia for GPU I was glad that I could run the mining on the video card. Therefore, I do not remember where I downloaded it. I tried a lot of different software. Only one works. Please dont use minergate. Its related to scammers and they steal about 30% of your hashrate according to community members. If you feel comfortable with solomining and waiting for rewards up to a week or two, then follow stoffus advice. It would help to decentralize AEON. If you prefer more frequent payouts, you can use this guide for setting up a pool mining software other than minergate: https://www.hiddenjadestone.com/2017/10/19/guide/cpu-pool-mining-windows-xmrig/Try it out and if you have questions feel free to ask. In terms of reward, solomining and poolmining will give you the same on average over long time. But as stoffu mentioned, you have the advantage of saving yourself the pool fee if you mine solo. For a list of pools available, check out www.aeonpools.netPlease dont use the biggest pools though and rather a smaller pool to help decentralize.
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thehihoguy
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October 19, 2017, 08:39:53 AM |
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Would be great if you support smaller pools for decentralizing the network
I've been mining at aeon.rupool.tk until something wrong happened, the pool was frozen for days, then it was reset. I think I've lost some money with that reset so until I find another good low diff pool I mine another coin that looks profitable. Quite shame, since I like AEON. However, I'm done with "smaller pools". aeonpools.net
Theres a list of pools:)
Thanks for the list, it'll make my my research quicker, maybe I get back to AEON sooner than I first thought. You could join the "older" smaller pools. Those are probably more stable. We had many new pools and pool owner recently, which is good for adoption, but also brings inexperienced pool owners in. https://aeonpool.xyz/https://aeonpool.dreamitsystems.com/http://serenity.hiddenjadestone.com/https://aeon.sumominer.com/Not a full list, just what comes in my mind right now I hope you wont turn your shoulder away from mining AEON just because of one or two bad experiences:) Or if you have enough hashrate, you could solomine and maximize your part in decentralization, see previous posts
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teknohog
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October 19, 2017, 11:17:36 AM |
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I see all these hints on CPU mining threads, and I wonder if people look at their actual hashrates or simply trust the theory. Because with some CPUs, using 1 thread per CPU core is faster than the default. I see it with AMD FX-8320E and A4-5000 (using xmrig, but the effect is the same with other miners).
The A4-5000 in particular is interesting, as it only has 2 MB of L2 cache and no L3. I guess the execution units are so slow as to negate any cache speedups.
With my i5-7300HQ, the default of 3 threads at 4 cores is faster. Besides the cache size effect, in this case there's also Turbo Boost, which allows higher clockspeeds when fewer cores are loaded. So you get more speedup than simply from the cache size.
Of course, the situation can be complicated by other programs running on the same machine. But in most practical cases, the other programs only take short bursts of CPU time, so long-term hashrates should not be affected.
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thehihoguy
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October 19, 2017, 11:28:02 AM |
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I see all these hints on CPU mining threads, and I wonder if people look at their actual hashrates or simply trust the theory. Because with some CPUs, using 1 thread per CPU core is faster than the default. I see it with AMD FX-8320E and A4-5000 (using xmrig, but the effect is the same with other miners).
The A4-5000 in particular is interesting, as it only has 2 MB of L2 cache and no L3. I guess the execution units are so slow as to negate any cache speedups.
With my i5-7300HQ, the default of 3 threads at 4 cores is faster. Besides the cache size effect, in this case there's also Turbo Boost, which allows higher clockspeeds when fewer cores are loaded. So you get more speedup than simply from the cache size.
Of course, the situation can be complicated by other programs running on the same machine. But in most practical cases, the other programs only take short bursts of CPU time, so long-term hashrates should not be affected.
In the end, you have to try out several settings for your setup to find the perfect configuration. Theres just so many things, that can impact the hashrate (driver, use of machine during mining, software, cpu features,etc). With aeon-stak-cpu for example, we found out that with certain CPU's you have better results by addressing only the physical core threads (threads 0,2,4,6,8). while for other cpus like mine, i had better results by just addressing every possible thread...
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korm
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October 19, 2017, 11:31:23 AM |
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thehihoguy thanks for help With my i5-7300HQ, the default of 3 threads at 4 cores is faster. Besides the cache size effect, in this case there's also Turbo Boost, which allows higher clockspeeds when fewer cores are loaded. So you get more speedup than simply from the cache size.
Of course, the situation can be complicated by other programs running on the same machine. But in most practical cases, the other programs only take short bursts of CPU time, so long-term hashrates should not be affected.
Yep. It is fantastic. I increased my rate two times for CPU. After all - I'm have this one: i5-7500 - 500-550H/s (+100%) G4400 - 230-250H/s (+100%) i3 2120 - 95-100H/s (+0%) 1050ti - 660H/s (+5%)
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Lorenzitto
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October 19, 2017, 09:10:56 PM |
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I almost earned 3 whole aeon coins mining less than 36 hours, but it was likely 2 months ago , now the minimum is 1000 h/s to see something appear in the wallet.
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jbmustaq
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October 19, 2017, 09:47:46 PM |
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Anybody can provide a detail about solomining in Windows 7
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stoffu
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October 19, 2017, 11:26:36 PM |
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Anybody can provide a detail about solomining in Windows 7
There are two options: The first option is simple and easy, but cannot benefit from massive performance improvements offered by dedicated CPU/GPU miners (e.g. XMRig, Stak-CPU/AMD/NVIDIA, ccminer). The second option is highly recommended (what I do), but I'm not sure if you can easily build aeon-stratum for Windows, because currently Aeon is made to build on Visual Studio instead of MSYS as in Monero. If you have OSX or Linux computer somewhere, you could run the pool there and let it connect to the daemon running on that same computer, or on your Windows 7 computer. Another option is to set up a Linux virtual machine on your Windows 7 computer and run the pool inside the VM which connects to your host Windows 7.
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October 21, 2017, 05:09:32 AM Last edit: October 21, 2017, 07:22:55 AM by Aides |
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Would be great if you support smaller pools for decentralizing the network
I've been mining at aeon.rupool.tk until something wrong happened, the pool was frozen for days, then it was reset. I think I've lost some money with that reset so until I find another good low diff pool I mine another coin that looks profitable. Quite shame, since I like AEON. However, I'm done with "smaller pools". aeonpools.net
Theres a list of pools:)
Thanks for the list, it'll make my my research quicker, maybe I get back to AEON sooner than I first thought. Tell me your wallet address. I'll check if there are any more coins on the pool. The pool was used to replace the equipment with a more powerful one. Mining was not available 30 minutes. Each pool has a support address. You can always write in support and you will be answered.
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October 21, 2017, 04:16:06 PM |
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Is there a OS X wallet?
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October 22, 2017, 07:54:27 AM |
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Hello there, please add our AEON pool to the list: recently born and absolutely reliable, LOW FEES ONLY 0.7% KIWIMINERS.COM bitcointalk announcement HERE: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2267154support: support@kiwiminers.commarketing: marketing@kiwiminers.comThanks, have a good day mining! The KIWIMINERS.COM team https://i.imgur.com/JQ87LI1.pngAeon isn't a cryptocurrency. It's a lifestyle. It's about polished perfection, attained by breaking the rules with calculated mastery of the art. It's about respecting history and pushing innovation forward at the same time. It's about more than just math: it's a vision of a world where luxury is the same as entry-level, and the limits are the heavens themselves. If you're just buying Aeon to get rich, don't even bother. Aeon needs more than just the next wave of crypto speculators: we're looking for the truly elite. But if you think you have what it takes to redefine global finance and discover new magnitudes of wealth in the process... Well, Aeon is ready for you. Are you ready for Aeon?--americanpegasus MANDATORY UPDATES: - Minimum Required Version 0.9.11.0 - If using any previous version, upgrade to 0.9.11.0 or later ASAP
Anonymous Electronic On-line Coin
| About: AEON was launched on 6.6.2014 at 6:00 PM UTC, with no premine or instamine. AEON is for people who want to pay and live freely, who want to be part of the cryptocurrency revolution and want to try something new. It is based on the CryptoNote protocol and uses the CryptoNight-Lite[1] algorithm, and features: - True anonymity & data protection - Untraceable payments uses ring signature - Unlinkable transactions with random data by the sender - Blockchain analysis resistant - CPU/GPU mining, ASIC-resistant
Roadmap April 26, 2015 - new roadmap announced Mobile-friendly PoW and block time (released) GUI wallet (in progress) 32-bit and ARM support (released, but requires low memory footprint below) Low memory footprint (in progress) Signature trimming Blockchain pruning (test release available) Multisig and payment channels (instant payments)
Development Team: Lead developer: smooth Release engineering, Q/A, support: Arux Other roles: open (PM smooth) Original developer (as Monero fork): anonymous
Bounties: None currently open. You can send donations for the AEON bounty fund and development.
AEON address: WmsSWgtT1JPg5e3cK41hKXSHVpKW7e47bjgiKmWZkYrhSS5LhRemNyqayaSBtAQ6517eo5PtH9wxHVmM78JDZSUu2W8PqRiNs View Key: 71bf19a7348ede17fa487167710dac401ef1556851bfd36b76040facf051630b Bitcoin address: 12Cyjf3qV6qLyXdzpLSLPdRFPUVidvnzFM Specifications: PoW algorithm: CryptoNight-Lite[1] Max supply: ~18.4 million[2] Block reward: Smoothly varying using the formula (M−A) / (218) / (1012) where M = 264 −1 and A = supply mined to date.[3] Block time: 240 seconds[3] Difficulty: Retargets at every block P2P-bind-port: 11180 RPC-bind-port: 11181
Downloads: Current release 0.9.14.0 (source code, 64 bit Windows binaries)
bootstrap for linux-x64 (by community member Phantas 2016-03-10) bootstrap for Windows-x64 (by community member Phantas 2016-03-11) bootstrap for OS X (by community member sammy007 2015-08-08)
GUI for Windows 0.2.3 (by community member h0g0f0g0, src.zip, sha1) WITHDRAWN
Instructions to compile on Windows (provided by community member cryptrol): see bottom of this post Recommended: Use caution with community-provided downloads, check reputation and scan for malware Recommended: Use the --donate option when starting the daemon to donate a portion of your computer power to support the project and the network
Links & Resources: No endorsement of third party services is implied. Use at your own risk. In the event of forks or other network issues be sure any service you use is properly updated and supporting the correct chain.
Trading: - Bittrex - AEON/BTC - Hitbtc - Cryptopia - AEON/BTC (also has DOGE and LTC pairs) - OTC thread - AEON/XMR - Speculation thread (moderated by americanpegasus) Pools - http://aeon.sumominer.com - https://aeon.kryptopool.com - http://98.238.231.31:9000 - The Cryptophilanthropist (2% fee) - http://aeon.[Suspicious link removed] - http://91.210.26.205:9090/ Stratum proxy (for solo mining with GPU miners and/or multiple computers) - https://github.com/sammy007/monero-stratum/tree/aeon Block Explorers: - Chainradar - Minergate Community: - Reddit - Steem - Twitter - IRC channel #aeon @ Freenode (Webchat Link) Cold storage: - Bootable image to manage AEON cold wallets (by Arux) github Stand alone miners - https://github.com/shyba/aeon-stak-cpu (fireice XMR CPU miner ported to AEON by shyba) - https://github.com/shyba/aeon-stak-amd (fireice XMR AMD miner ported to AEON by shyba)
Dead Links / Outdated: cryptocointalk white paper
Mining: 1. Compile from source code. 2. Launch aeond and wait until it is synchronized. 3. Launch simplewallet --generate-new-wallet=wallet_name.bin --pass=12345 4. Start mining from the wallet using start_mining command
Windows Compilation: (provided by community member cryptrol) Compile steps for Windows x64 using MSVC First of all let's get all the tools we need : - Download and install Microsoft Visual Studio Community 2013 (It's a free version of visual studio with some license limitations). You can uncheck the web development tools and SQL tools since you won't use them for building AEON. This will take time to download and install and you will have to reboot upon completion. - Download and install cMake for windows from : http://www.cmake.org/download/ (Win32 install) - Download Boost 1.57 from http://www.boost.org/users/download/ , use the zip or 7zip archive and extract. You can use c:\boost_1_57_0 since this is what I am using for this steps. - Download and install Github for Windows from https://windows.github.com/ (This also includes a Git shell that we will use later).
Now the nasty part compile & build time ! - Build Boost : Open a command line and type :
> cd c:\boost_1_57_0 > bootstrap.bat > b2 --toolset=msvc variant=release link=static threading=multi runtime-link=static address-model=64
- Open the Git Shell (or Git bash) depending what you downloaded previously and do.
> git clone https://github.com/aeonix/aeon.git > cd aeon > mkdir build > cd build > cmake -G "Visual Studio 12 Win64" -DBOOST_ROOT=c:\boost_1_57_0 -DBOOST_LIBRARYDIR=c:\boost_1_57_0\stage\lib .. > MSBuild Project.sln /p:Configuration=release /m You should now find the exe files under build/src/release .
[1] Cryptonight-Lite: Louis d’or whitepaper; crypto_zoidberg, doe1138; December 8, 2014. Previously: Cryptonight [2] Proposed: minimum maintenance reward of <1%/year for mining incentive starting after approximately 8 years. [3] Previously: (M−A) / (220) / (1012) each 60 seconds block where M = 264 −1 and A = supply mined to date (coins generated per day unchanged).
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Durins Bane
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October 22, 2017, 08:53:11 AM |
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Would be great if you support smaller pools for decentralizing the network
I've been mining at aeon.[Suspicious link removed] until something wrong happened, the pool was frozen for days, then it was reset. I think I've lost some money with that reset so until I find another good low diff pool I mine another coin that looks profitable. Quite shame, since I like AEON. However, I'm done with "smaller pools". aeonpools.net
Theres a list of pools:)
Thanks for the list, it'll make my my research quicker, maybe I get back to AEON sooner than I first thought. Join mine DurinsMine.com here to stay! Hi to all fellow aeon miners, if I'm not asking too much, someone could upload an updated blockchain.bin file? Or post a link here or pm it to me where i can download an updated file? Is taking me days to sync it properly. Thanks in advance.
http://www.durinsmine.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5&pid=5#pid5
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Mattthev
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October 22, 2017, 01:02:03 PM |
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For the Nvidia there is almost nothing to change, only better options for build with CUDA 9. There are no better XMR-STAK sources like for the AMD version. And the variables you've changed are good.
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stoffu
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October 22, 2017, 01:04:01 PM |
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For the Nvidia there is almost nothing to change, only better options for build with CUDA 9. There are no better XMR-STAK sources like for the AMD version. And the variables you've changed are good. Go away, MinerGate.
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algorart
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October 22, 2017, 07:15:10 PM |
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I'm using for aeon mining www.minereasy.com . Is very fast and easy to use. what do you think ? Can i use minereasy for mining aeon or there's some other better pool ? Thanks
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stoffu
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October 23, 2017, 07:46:53 AM |
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For the Nvidia there is almost nothing to change, only better options for build with CUDA 9. There are no better XMR-STAK sources like for the AMD version. And the variables you've changed are good. Go away, MinerGate. Let me correct myself that the use of MinerGate's pool as the dev donation pool server doesn't mean at all that Mattthev is from MinerGate; one can just enter the login info to the pool server to receive the dev donation. Nevertheless, I'm overall not impressed by the work.
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