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October 14, 2014, 10:42:06 AM
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Deflation:

Venezuela Default Almost Certain, Harvard Economists Say

http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-13/venezuela-default-almost-certain-harvard-economists-say.html
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I have been following the news from Venezuela, mostly from panampost.com lately. Clearly, at every road cross, they choose the wrong path, away from markets. It seems that the people there just don't understand, and still believes the lies coming from the dominators even after 15 years since Chavez took over. They are going down hard.

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October 14, 2014, 01:59:27 PM
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I have been following the news from Venezuela, mostly from panampost.com lately. Clearly, at every road cross, they choose the wrong path, away from markets. It seems that the people there just don't understand, and still believes the lies coming from the dominators even after 15 years since Chavez took over. They are going down hard.
Did you grab up any swaps?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-29/venezuela-5-3-billion-bond-default-anxiety-eases-andes-credit.html

Nothing like a little systemic risk to pad the portfolio.


The USA may get blamed for this, because of our ending QE.  Weird, but possible.
Being only slightly fiscally responsible makes the horribly irresponsible look that much worse, and they are at the tipping point.
Dollar strength, exports inflation.

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October 14, 2014, 02:02:09 PM
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Dow looks to be going red again

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October 14, 2014, 02:46:13 PM
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Dow looks to be going red again



Bitcoin price drops 5% in the last 6 hrs.  Bullish! Cheesy
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October 14, 2014, 03:49:49 PM
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Bitcoin $447 on localbitcoins, the only true global marketplace.

Any significantly advanced cryptocurrency is indistinguishable from Ponzi Tulips.
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October 14, 2014, 03:53:02 PM
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Bitcoin $447 on localbitcoins, the only true global marketplace.

This thread is going on for two years now?  Grow up! LOL.  I'm a goldbug but also a fan of bitcoin! :-)

I'm not a chartist, but if I was, you would see Bitcoin's chart looks ugly, a steady decline from the high with no sign of an uptrend.  Just stating the obvious...

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October 14, 2014, 04:01:04 PM
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here we have a peek that Bitcoin may in fact sneek in the backdoor and become the world's reserve currency unbeknownst to the IMF and banksters.  they are adopting the Andreas way of looking at Bitcoin (the currency as simply the first app), which i still maintain is fundamentally in error:

There was recognition that such protocols could serve as an “initial layer” upon which platforms of fully blown payment systems could be built.

http://www.coindesk.com/imf-world-bank-panellists-discuss-block-chains-potential/

let them start building and come to the realization that the blockchain can't work w/o the currency.
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here we have a peek that Bitcoin may in fact sneek in the backdoor and become the world's reserve currency unbeknownst to the IMF and banksters.  they are adopting the Andreas way of looking at Bitcoin (the currency as simply the first app), which i still maintain is fundamentally in error:

There was recognition that such protocols could serve as an “initial layer” upon which platforms of fully blown payment systems could be built.

http://www.coindesk.com/imf-world-bank-panellists-discuss-block-chains-potential/

let them start building and come to the realization that the blockchain can't work w/o the currency.

Not just the first app, the foundation app.

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October 14, 2014, 04:11:23 PM
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here we have a peek that Bitcoin may in fact sneek in the backdoor and become the world's reserve currency unbeknownst to the IMF and banksters. 

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October 14, 2014, 04:19:43 PM
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here we have a peek that Bitcoin may in fact sneek in the backdoor and become the world's reserve currency unbeknownst to the IMF and banksters.  they are adopting the Andreas way of looking at Bitcoin (the currency as simply the first app), which i still maintain is fundamentally in error:

There was recognition that such protocols could serve as an “initial layer” upon which platforms of fully blown payment systems could be built.

http://www.coindesk.com/imf-world-bank-panellists-discuss-block-chains-potential/

let them start building and come to the realization that the blockchain can't work w/o the currency.

Not just the first app, the foundation app.

that's a much better way to put it.
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October 14, 2014, 04:20:23 PM
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here we have a peek that Bitcoin may in fact sneek in the backdoor and become the world's reserve currency unbeknownst to the IMF and banksters. 

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yep, such an elegant progression.
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October 14, 2014, 04:27:11 PM
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Hey Cypher - looks to me like the gold/btc correlation is pretty strongly positive. Even over months + time frame. Look different to you? Is this just due to dollar moves or more fundamental?
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October 14, 2014, 04:44:29 PM
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Hey Cypher - looks to me like the gold/btc correlation is pretty strongly positive. Even over months + time frame. Look different to you? Is this just due to dollar moves or more fundamental?
bitcoin acting as a safe haven its a great sign that trust is growing amongst the elite
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https://twitter.com/cypherdoc2/status/522066278740422656
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October 14, 2014, 04:56:31 PM
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"Bitcoin, the currency, is a risky investment. But the potential of technologies that underpin it to disrupt the finance sector is looking like a safe bet. "

http://www.economistinsights.com/technology-innovation/analysis/money-no-middleman/tab/1

Therefor..bitcoin is a safebet.
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October 14, 2014, 05:09:31 PM
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here we have a peek that Bitcoin may in fact sneek in the backdoor and become the world's reserve currency unbeknownst to the IMF and banksters.  they are adopting the Andreas way of looking at Bitcoin (the currency as simply the first app), which i still maintain is fundamentally in error:

There was recognition that such protocols could serve as an “initial layer” upon which platforms of fully blown payment systems could be built.

http://www.coindesk.com/imf-world-bank-panellists-discuss-block-chains-potential/

let them start building and come to the realization that the blockchain can't work w/o the currency.

Not just the first app, the foundation app.

that's a much better way to put it.

LOL @ esperanto.  there are SOME small differences... like being able to accept Bitcoin using your phone in about 5 min.  Compare that to learning esperanto (2+ years), or even accepting a credit card (a week+ for the signup & to receive the reader, etc).
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October 14, 2014, 05:11:58 PM
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"Bitcoin, the currency, is a risky investment. But the potential of technologies that underpin it to disrupt the finance sector is looking like a safe bet. "

http://www.economistinsights.com/technology-innovation/analysis/money-no-middleman/tab/1

Therefor..bitcoin is a safebet.


This is yet another instance of the common misunderstanding among finance/econ people that the currency and the blockchain are separable.

But it's good that these people are seeing value in "the underlying technology". They did not 2 years ago.

And I suspect that sometime in the next 2 years or so, it's going to dawn on a lot of these people that you can't use the technology without the unit/currency.

Bitcoin is the first monetary system to credibly offer perfect information to all economic participants.
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here we have a peek that Bitcoin may in fact sneek in the backdoor and become the world's reserve currency unbeknownst to the IMF and banksters.  they are adopting the Andreas way of looking at Bitcoin (the currency as simply the first app), which i still maintain is fundamentally in error:

There was recognition that such protocols could serve as an “initial layer” upon which platforms of fully blown payment systems could be built.

http://www.coindesk.com/imf-world-bank-panellists-discuss-block-chains-potential/

let them start building and come to the realization that the blockchain can't work w/o the currency.

Not just the first app, the foundation app.

that's a much better way to put it.

LOL @ esperanto.  there are SOME small differences... like being able to accept Bitcoin using your phone in about 5 min.  Compare that to learning esperanto (2+ years), or even accepting a credit card (a week+ for the signup & to receive the reader, etc).

This is a wonderful experience that I repeat as often as I can.  I tend to wear some bitcoin bling most of the time.  A key chain, a pin, something.
I get a question about it from a stranger.  Rather than answer, I offer to show them.

"Do you have a phone?  A smart phone?"

And it goes from there.  5 minutes later, they have some bitcoin, and something to show off to their friends.
They are hooked.

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