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October 06, 2014, 10:01:00 AM
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Dont know if this has been posted but its an interview with Jon Matonis: Bitcon to replace Gold

http://www.chyp.com/media/podcast/jon-matonis-bitcoin-foundation/

edit: wrong interview, it is actually an article. long day.

http://leaprate.com/2014/10/05/bitcoin-to-replace-gold-says-jon-matonis/
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October 06, 2014, 10:08:29 AM
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Riiise mofo, riiise. 
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October 06, 2014, 10:10:36 AM
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Riiise mofo, riiise. 

Planning to have fun with Mrs. Cypher?  Grin

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October 06, 2014, 11:44:58 AM
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Riiise mofo, riiise. 

Planning to have fun with Mrs. Cypher?  Grin

Probably this

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October 06, 2014, 01:29:16 PM
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Riiise mofo, riiise.  

Planning to have fun with Mrs. Cypher?  Grin

Hey, the Boomer's Boomer isn't as quick as it used to be.
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October 06, 2014, 01:53:04 PM
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Bloomberg - S&P 500 Companies Spend Almost All Profits on Buybacks

http://bloom.bg/1uPbtDG
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October 06, 2014, 02:06:14 PM
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Bloomberg - S&P 500 Companies Spend Almost All Profits on Buybacks

http://bloom.bg/1uPbtDG

A way to fool investors into thinking company is doing well and hit the management internal target for stock option.
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October 06, 2014, 02:19:47 PM
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Bloomberg - S&P 500 Companies Spend Almost All Profits on Buybacks

http://bloom.bg/1uPbtDG

A way to fool investors into thinking company is doing well and hit the management internal target for stock option.

Something like that; a correct financial operation at best; for exemple, Lehman Brothers was buying back its stocks before collapsing

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October 06, 2014, 02:33:35 PM
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my opinion is that the wall is a bank or some vested interest in keeping the price suppressed.

Could also be this guy. Have a look: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2id042/big_dumps_coming_40k_btc_on_the_move_early/

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October 06, 2014, 02:47:12 PM
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Bloomberg - S&P 500 Companies Spend Almost All Profits on Buybacks

http://bloom.bg/1uPbtDG

hmm, sour news (for equities), imho.

historically speaking companies typically buy back stock at market highs, CEO's are generally crappy investors.

Just my 2bits on the subject though Smiley

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October 06, 2014, 02:49:27 PM
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Bloomberg - S&P 500 Companies Spend Almost All Profits on Buybacks

http://bloom.bg/1uPbtDG

A way to fool investors into thinking company is doing well and hit the management internal target for stock option.

Something like that; a correct financial operation at best; for exemple, Lehman Brothers was buying back its stocks before collapsing
From a total return perspective, companies are as bad timers as the average investor. Mergers and Acquisitions tend to peak with markets too. Both indicate exhaustion of profit opportunities in the broad economy.

http://blogs-images.forbes.com/jessecolombo/files/2014/07/buybacks.png

EDIT: sgbett beat me to it.  Smiley
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October 06, 2014, 03:02:42 PM
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Bloomberg - S&P 500 Companies Spend Almost All Profits on Buybacks

http://bloom.bg/1uPbtDG

A way to fool investors into thinking company is doing well and hit the management internal target for stock option.

Something like that; a correct financial operation at best; for exemple, Lehman Brothers was buying back its stocks before collapsing
From a total return perspective, companies are as bad timers as the average investor. Mergers and Acquisitions tend to peak with markets too. Both indicate exhaustion of profit opportunities in the broad economy.

http://blogs-images.forbes.com/jessecolombo/files/2014/07/buybacks.png

EDIT: sgbett beat me to it.  Smiley

hehe, nice to have a consensus Wink

plus you got the cool graphic to support it

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October 06, 2014, 04:07:37 PM
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looking good:

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Bloomberg - S&P 500 Companies Spend Almost All Profits on Buybacks

http://bloom.bg/1uPbtDG

A way to fool investors into thinking company is doing well and hit the management internal target for stock option.

Something like that; a correct financial operation at best; for exemple, Lehman Brothers was buying back its stocks before collapsing
From a total return perspective, companies are as bad timers as the average investor. Mergers and Acquisitions tend to peak with markets too. Both indicate exhaustion of profit opportunities in the broad economy.

http://blogs-images.forbes.com/jessecolombo/files/2014/07/buybacks.png

EDIT: sgbett beat me to it.  Smiley

great graph
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October 06, 2014, 04:50:21 PM
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Bloomberg - S&P 500 Companies Spend Almost All Profits on Buybacks

http://bloom.bg/1uPbtDG

A way to fool investors into thinking company is doing well and hit the management internal target for stock option.

Something like that; a correct financial operation at best; for exemple, Lehman Brothers was buying back its stocks before collapsing
From a total return perspective, companies are as bad timers as the average investor. Mergers and Acquisitions tend to peak with markets too. Both indicate exhaustion of profit opportunities in the broad economy.

http://blogs-images.forbes.com/jessecolombo/files/2014/07/buybacks.png

EDIT: sgbett beat me to it.  Smiley

great graph

Companies buy their own stocks when it is high, and don't when it is low?

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Bloomberg - S&P 500 Companies Spend Almost All Profits on Buybacks

http://bloom.bg/1uPbtDG

A way to fool investors into thinking company is doing well and hit the management internal target for stock option.

Something like that; a correct financial operation at best; for exemple, Lehman Brothers was buying back its stocks before collapsing
From a total return perspective, companies are as bad timers as the average investor. Mergers and Acquisitions tend to peak with markets too. Both indicate exhaustion of profit opportunities in the broad economy.

http://blogs-images.forbes.com/jessecolombo/files/2014/07/buybacks.png

EDIT: sgbett beat me to it.  Smiley

great graph

Companies buy their own stocks when it is high, and don't when it is low?

are companies supposed to be smart?

they're kinda like central banks...
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October 06, 2014, 05:06:14 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=812616.msg9105676#msg9105676
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October 06, 2014, 05:40:26 PM
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My guess is that we are now in a phase where non-economic actors (e.g., govts) and large players (e.g., Winkle-types) can cooperate.  The latter needs the former to make their operations possible and the it would be in the interest of the former to limit the body-count of persons interested in the solution, it being significantly disruptive.

We've had 3 quarters of time for the fruit to ripen on the tree and it was time for a good shake.  Hopefully this will set the stage for some capitalization on the upside finally.  At least when it is all over which I'm hardly convinced of.  I'd been prepared for $250-ish, but it was just a round number I invented on the fly with no particular insight or analysis.

An alternate theory (perhaps shot down in other analysis, and I'm not following things all that closely) is that the latest Russian criminalization forced some whales to simply throw in the towel in the most expedient and straightforward way possible, and some of their counterparts in other locales mopped the BTC up.  If/when such criminalization happens in the West it will be very interesting to watch.  At that point there probably would be no venue in which to create a wall.


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October 06, 2014, 05:44:39 PM
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gold will be replacing bitcoin?  Smiley
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October 06, 2014, 05:59:16 PM
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we've moved into the window for an intermediate/weekly term low.  while my short cover occurred on 9/30 and was 3d too early, today makes me feel better, as we're getting a decent bounce.  the trick will be if we're forming a daily/short term bottom right now or going to get another push down further into the weekly/intermed term bottom.  nothing has changed in the longer term bearish outlook assuming the top was 1923.  we'll see:

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