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October 13, 2014, 11:21:39 PM
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Balls of steel will pay off Smiley

meanwhile: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-13/what-happens-when-someone-desperate-sell-750-million-stocks Grin


edit: very interesting interview from Chris Powell about the gold market manipulations:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSaJeeDvZS8#t=166

hope nothing like that would manage to make it in bitcoinland. but as long as they got the money prints and hold the books.. Undecided
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October 14, 2014, 12:36:09 AM
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Be careful with this, remember the Feds took down the mob by proving tax evasion, not actual crimes.


you also need to be careful in posting ridiculous amounts of bitcoin attributable to certain individuals.

My hypothetical example above was just that, a hypothetical example to outline how a future argument might be drawn in the public sphere. Not sure where there is a reaction there. I was replying to you in discussion and so used you as an example, that is common, there is nothing attributing there.

All I am trying to point out is that if the thesis of this thread come true, then the reality of the situation is developed world governments will be bankrupt with limited tax options and huge unfunded liabilities/promises to voters. The pressure to find funding mechanisms for past unfunded promises will be thundering.

It is important to anticipate this possibility if you are predicting bitcoin as future global money as a possibility.


So no money to bomb their enemies?
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October 14, 2014, 03:02:11 AM
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Vix closed +16%

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October 14, 2014, 04:29:15 AM
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Dow -201.

that's not good.


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October 14, 2014, 04:39:47 AM
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edit: very interesting interview from Chris Powell about the gold market manipulations:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSaJeeDvZS8#t=166

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I hope we someday can get the producing class to understand how it is being abused by the financial class and get our free markets back

hope nothing like that would manage to make it in bitcoinland. but as long as they got the money prints and hold the books.. Undecided

*looks at the winklevoss brothers*

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October 14, 2014, 05:41:44 AM
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edit: very interesting interview from Chris Powell about the gold market manipulations:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSaJeeDvZS8#t=166

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I hope we someday can get the producing class to understand how it is being abused by the financial class and get our free markets back

hope nothing like that would manage to make it in bitcoinland. but as long as they got the money prints and hold the books.. Undecided

*looks at the winklevoss brothers*

That's an awesome quote.

On the other topic

The Winklevoss are key to bringing Bitcoin to the capital class, they are part of the new generation and a bridge to the old. They are investing capital (lots at risk) in producing Bitcoin infrastructure, wealth will always be distributed on a bell curve, however in Bitcoin it's the producing class that creates wealth. And they've proven to be very creative!

If they're good they'll hold on but their kids that's different tale yet to materialize, I'm sure things go well but it'll be a new game.

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October 14, 2014, 06:20:59 AM
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edit: very interesting interview from Chris Powell about the gold market manipulations:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSaJeeDvZS8#t=166

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I hope we someday can get the producing class to understand how it is being abused by the financial class and get our free markets back

hope nothing like that would manage to make it in bitcoinland. but as long as they got the money prints and hold the books.. Undecided

*looks at the winklevoss brothers*

That's an awesome quote.

On the other topic

The Winklevoss are key to bringing Bitcoin to the capital class, they are part of the new generation and a bridge to the old. They are investing capital (lots at risk) in producing Bitcoin infrastructure, wealth will always be distributed on a bell curve, however in Bitcoin it's the producing class that creates wealth. And they've proven to be very creative!

If they're good they'll hold on but their kids that's different tale yet to materialize, I'm sure things go well but it'll be a new game.

I am more than skeptical regarding their ETF. I really dont see the point. *if they ever launch.
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October 14, 2014, 08:36:12 AM
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Round 2.

http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-13/too-big-fail-banks-seen-facing-capital-gap-of-up-to-870-billion.html
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October 14, 2014, 10:42:06 AM
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Deflation:

Venezuela Default Almost Certain, Harvard Economists Say

http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-13/venezuela-default-almost-certain-harvard-economists-say.html
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October 14, 2014, 12:40:26 PM
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I have been following the news from Venezuela, mostly from panampost.com lately. Clearly, at every road cross, they choose the wrong path, away from markets. It seems that the people there just don't understand, and still believes the lies coming from the dominators even after 15 years since Chavez took over. They are going down hard.
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October 14, 2014, 01:59:27 PM
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I have been following the news from Venezuela, mostly from panampost.com lately. Clearly, at every road cross, they choose the wrong path, away from markets. It seems that the people there just don't understand, and still believes the lies coming from the dominators even after 15 years since Chavez took over. They are going down hard.
Did you grab up any swaps?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-29/venezuela-5-3-billion-bond-default-anxiety-eases-andes-credit.html

Nothing like a little systemic risk to pad the portfolio.


The USA may get blamed for this, because of our ending QE.  Weird, but possible.
Being only slightly fiscally responsible makes the horribly irresponsible look that much worse, and they are at the tipping point.
Dollar strength, exports inflation.

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October 14, 2014, 02:02:09 PM
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Dow looks to be going red again

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October 14, 2014, 02:46:13 PM
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Dow looks to be going red again



Bitcoin price drops 5% in the last 6 hrs.  Bullish! Cheesy
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October 14, 2014, 03:49:49 PM
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Bitcoin $447 on localbitcoins, the only true global marketplace.

Any significantly advanced cryptocurrency is indistinguishable from Ponzi Tulips.
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October 14, 2014, 03:53:02 PM
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Bitcoin $447 on localbitcoins, the only true global marketplace.

This thread is going on for two years now?  Grow up! LOL.  I'm a goldbug but also a fan of bitcoin! :-)

I'm not a chartist, but if I was, you would see Bitcoin's chart looks ugly, a steady decline from the high with no sign of an uptrend.  Just stating the obvious...

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October 14, 2014, 04:01:04 PM
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here we have a peek that Bitcoin may in fact sneek in the backdoor and become the world's reserve currency unbeknownst to the IMF and banksters.  they are adopting the Andreas way of looking at Bitcoin (the currency as simply the first app), which i still maintain is fundamentally in error:

There was recognition that such protocols could serve as an “initial layer” upon which platforms of fully blown payment systems could be built.

http://www.coindesk.com/imf-world-bank-panellists-discuss-block-chains-potential/

let them start building and come to the realization that the blockchain can't work w/o the currency.
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October 14, 2014, 04:09:16 PM
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here we have a peek that Bitcoin may in fact sneek in the backdoor and become the world's reserve currency unbeknownst to the IMF and banksters.  they are adopting the Andreas way of looking at Bitcoin (the currency as simply the first app), which i still maintain is fundamentally in error:

There was recognition that such protocols could serve as an “initial layer” upon which platforms of fully blown payment systems could be built.

http://www.coindesk.com/imf-world-bank-panellists-discuss-block-chains-potential/

let them start building and come to the realization that the blockchain can't work w/o the currency.

Not just the first app, the foundation app.

FREE MONEY1 Bitcoin for Silver and Gold NewLibertyDollar.com and now BITCOIN SPECIE (silver 1 ozt) shows value by QR
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October 14, 2014, 04:11:23 PM
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here we have a peek that Bitcoin may in fact sneek in the backdoor and become the world's reserve currency unbeknownst to the IMF and banksters. 

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October 14, 2014, 04:19:43 PM
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here we have a peek that Bitcoin may in fact sneek in the backdoor and become the world's reserve currency unbeknownst to the IMF and banksters.  they are adopting the Andreas way of looking at Bitcoin (the currency as simply the first app), which i still maintain is fundamentally in error:

There was recognition that such protocols could serve as an “initial layer” upon which platforms of fully blown payment systems could be built.

http://www.coindesk.com/imf-world-bank-panellists-discuss-block-chains-potential/

let them start building and come to the realization that the blockchain can't work w/o the currency.

Not just the first app, the foundation app.

that's a much better way to put it.
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October 14, 2014, 04:20:23 PM
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here we have a peek that Bitcoin may in fact sneek in the backdoor and become the world's reserve currency unbeknownst to the IMF and banksters. 

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yep, such an elegant progression.
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