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October 13, 2014, 07:11:30 PM
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If you think cryptos will be really big, it's time to move to a jurisdiction that does not tax capital gains of individuals.

this.

if these scenario unfold I'm pulling a Erik Vorhees and expatriating myself some place me and my BTC will be left alone.


DId Erik actually renounce his citizenship? I think Roger did...

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October 13, 2014, 07:15:55 PM
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who says i have any bitcoin?  i just believe in the cause of fair money.

Be careful with this, remember the Feds took down the mob by proving tax evasion, not actual crimes.

If the US government (with all of the data collected by NSA, etc) is able to prove that at one point you acquired a certain number of coins then it is easy for them to force to you admit to one of the following, either:
1) You sold the coins, in which case you better have reported that past sale to the IRS and paid taxes, or
2) You still control the coins

or

3) They got stolen...

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"I threw out the hard drive"
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October 13, 2014, 07:39:10 PM
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who says i have any bitcoin?  i just believe in the cause of fair money.

Be careful with this, remember the Feds took down the mob by proving tax evasion, not actual crimes.

If the US government (with all of the data collected by NSA, etc) is able to prove that at one point you acquired a certain number of coins then it is easy for them to force to you admit to one of the following, either:
1) You sold the coins, in which case you better have reported that past sale to the IRS and paid taxes, or
2) You still control the coins

or

3) They got stolen...

* runs filing police report *

"I threw out the hard drive"

"Private keys lost in a boating accident"
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October 13, 2014, 07:49:14 PM
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Dow -201.

that's not good.
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October 13, 2014, 08:23:48 PM
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that's alot of money.  US financial intermediaries should get mad:

Defying the dollar Russia & China agree currency swap worth over $20bn

http://rt.com/business/195556-russia-china-currency-swap/
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October 13, 2014, 08:28:40 PM
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that's alot of money.  US financial intermediaries should get mad:

Defying the dollar Russia & China agree currency swap worth over $20bn

http://rt.com/business/195556-russia-china-currency-swap/

Medvedev and Li signed over 40 other agreements at the meeting, including outlining plans to add another pipeline from Russia to China. Li is in Moscow for a three-day visit.

well, i guess if Europe doesn't want to use it, China will.
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October 13, 2014, 09:15:54 PM
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Dow -201.

that's not good.

Meh.  We're talking about a 6% slide (not even technically a correction) from the ATH.  I'd hope that isn't enough to cause much heartburn.  Of course, it is the spooky month of October.
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October 13, 2014, 09:49:06 PM
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Glenn Greenwald:

http://www.ted.com/talks/glenn_greenwald_why_privacy_matters
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October 13, 2014, 10:08:50 PM
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uh oh. breakdown.  see how the RUT has been leading?:

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October 13, 2014, 10:09:42 PM
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uh oh. breakdown.  see how the RUT has been leading?:



where do you get these charts?

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October 13, 2014, 10:10:45 PM
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$400
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October 13, 2014, 10:12:11 PM
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#RunToSafety
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October 13, 2014, 10:37:19 PM
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Balls of steel will pay off Smiley
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October 13, 2014, 11:21:39 PM
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Balls of steel will pay off Smiley

meanwhile: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-13/what-happens-when-someone-desperate-sell-750-million-stocks Grin


edit: very interesting interview from Chris Powell about the gold market manipulations:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSaJeeDvZS8#t=166

hope nothing like that would manage to make it in bitcoinland. but as long as they got the money prints and hold the books.. Undecided
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October 14, 2014, 12:36:09 AM
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Be careful with this, remember the Feds took down the mob by proving tax evasion, not actual crimes.


you also need to be careful in posting ridiculous amounts of bitcoin attributable to certain individuals.

My hypothetical example above was just that, a hypothetical example to outline how a future argument might be drawn in the public sphere. Not sure where there is a reaction there. I was replying to you in discussion and so used you as an example, that is common, there is nothing attributing there.

All I am trying to point out is that if the thesis of this thread come true, then the reality of the situation is developed world governments will be bankrupt with limited tax options and huge unfunded liabilities/promises to voters. The pressure to find funding mechanisms for past unfunded promises will be thundering.

It is important to anticipate this possibility if you are predicting bitcoin as future global money as a possibility.


So no money to bomb their enemies?

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October 14, 2014, 03:02:11 AM
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Vix closed +16%

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October 14, 2014, 04:29:15 AM
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Dow -201.

that's not good.


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October 14, 2014, 04:39:47 AM
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edit: very interesting interview from Chris Powell about the gold market manipulations:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSaJeeDvZS8#t=166

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I hope we someday can get the producing class to understand how it is being abused by the financial class and get our free markets back

hope nothing like that would manage to make it in bitcoinland. but as long as they got the money prints and hold the books.. Undecided

*looks at the winklevoss brothers*

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October 14, 2014, 05:41:44 AM
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edit: very interesting interview from Chris Powell about the gold market manipulations:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSaJeeDvZS8#t=166

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I hope we someday can get the producing class to understand how it is being abused by the financial class and get our free markets back

hope nothing like that would manage to make it in bitcoinland. but as long as they got the money prints and hold the books.. Undecided

*looks at the winklevoss brothers*

That's an awesome quote.

On the other topic

The Winklevoss are key to bringing Bitcoin to the capital class, they are part of the new generation and a bridge to the old. They are investing capital (lots at risk) in producing Bitcoin infrastructure, wealth will always be distributed on a bell curve, however in Bitcoin it's the producing class that creates wealth. And they've proven to be very creative!

If they're good they'll hold on but their kids that's different tale yet to materialize, I'm sure things go well but it'll be a new game.

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October 14, 2014, 06:20:59 AM
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edit: very interesting interview from Chris Powell about the gold market manipulations:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSaJeeDvZS8#t=166

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I hope we someday can get the producing class to understand how it is being abused by the financial class and get our free markets back

hope nothing like that would manage to make it in bitcoinland. but as long as they got the money prints and hold the books.. Undecided

*looks at the winklevoss brothers*

That's an awesome quote.

On the other topic

The Winklevoss are key to bringing Bitcoin to the capital class, they are part of the new generation and a bridge to the old. They are investing capital (lots at risk) in producing Bitcoin infrastructure, wealth will always be distributed on a bell curve, however in Bitcoin it's the producing class that creates wealth. And they've proven to be very creative!

If they're good they'll hold on but their kids that's different tale yet to materialize, I'm sure things go well but it'll be a new game.

I am more than skeptical regarding their ETF. I really dont see the point. *if they ever launch.
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