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June 15, 2012, 04:56:20 PM
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Bitcoin: +12%

Gold: -4%

hey cypher, you've been complaining that people shouldn't take your prediction so damn short-termly... so if things turn around again mid-term, you'll look bad again and then you can't say "relax, this was a long-term outlook" that easily any more, because you will have been bragging on tiny fluctiations yourself with updates every second hour Wink.

I, for myself, wont call this anytime before 2013.



there's some truth to this.  so what do you recommend?  shutting down this thread until 2013?  even then if gold is at $500 and Bitcoin at $1625 there will always be someone who'll say "it isn't over".

it's just that the discrepancy at this stage is so HUGE i don't think you can ignore it.
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June 15, 2012, 05:05:23 PM
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lets imagine the reverse:

Gold:  +12%

Bitcoin:  -4%

how many of you would be willing to remain silent w/o hootin' and hollerin' in my face in the short term until 2013?
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June 15, 2012, 05:11:17 PM
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lets imagine the reverse:

Gold:  +12%

Bitcoin:  -4%

how many of you would be willing to remain silent w/o hootin' and hollerin' in my face in the short term until 2013?

That isn't the issue. It's one thing to get excited about daily changes, and another to say an investment is collapsing or going to the moon because of a few days' movements.

In other words: focusing on technicals while dismissing fundamentals, and conflating the former with the latter.
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June 15, 2012, 05:15:04 PM
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lets imagine the reverse:

Gold:  +12%

Bitcoin:  -4%

how many of you would be willing to remain silent w/o hootin' and hollerin' in my face in the short term until 2013?

That isn't the issue. It's one thing to get excited about daily changes, and another to say an investment is collapsing or going to the moon because of a few days' movements.

In other words: focusing on technicals while dismissing fundamentals, and conflating the former with the latter.

the way i see it, these aren't just daily fluctuations. 

Bitcoin has been rising since November and gold falling since last August.

gold has not collapsed i admit (yet).
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June 15, 2012, 06:52:57 PM
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Bitcoin has been rising since November and gold falling since last August.


But the three month flat iswas really boring Grin (always bad grammar of mine)

and I think the bitcoin can be flat itself improve something to the world: bitcoin don't need to be a speculate bubble to be used and traded by the community members. Even there had been a 90% loss, the bitcoin can still recover, which will be very convincing for people to trust bitcoin.

Hopefully that we will reach 33$ very soon.

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June 15, 2012, 06:54:37 PM
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Bitcoin has been rising since November and gold falling since last August.


But the three month flat is really boring Grin

and I think the bitcoin can be flat itself improve something to the world: bitcoin don't need to be a speculate bubble to be used and traded by the community members.

if what we're in right now is a flat, then its the most exciting flat i've ever seen. Cheesy
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June 15, 2012, 07:06:53 PM
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Bitcoin has been rising since November and gold falling since last August.


But the three month flat is really boring Grin


if what we're in right now is a flat, then its the most exciting flat i've ever seen. Cheesy

Bad grammar. it should be a "was"

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June 15, 2012, 07:09:20 PM
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Bitcoin has been rising since November and gold falling since last August.


But the three month flat is really boring Grin


if what we're in right now is a flat, then its the most exciting flat i've ever seen. Cheesy

Bad grammar. it should be a "was"

actually, it was an exciting "flat" for me.  all my subscribers know that i saw a flat topped ascending triangle developing months ago which was bullish for me.
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June 15, 2012, 07:16:29 PM
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the way i see it, these aren't just daily fluctuations.  

Bitcoin has been rising since November and gold falling since last August.

gold has not collapsed i admit (yet).

Then you shouldn't have any trouble seeing the gradual reversal of the downtrend in gold Smiley

The same would apply to the USDX being below 81.75 and dropping. The Fed today (and central banking worldwide) is following and exaggerating trends - exactly the opposite of what it's supposed to be doing: anticipating and compensating. This weekend will be the beginning of officially-resumed monetary intervention through a globally coordinated effort.

Looking at Kitco's gold to currency comparison, only the JPY and USD are stronger relative to gold, and then only on a 60-day basis. Every other time-frame is gold-positive. In fact, Bitcoin is about the only 'currency' that's truly strong against gold at the moment - not even silver has taken off yet. Amusingly enough, papiermarks are gaining relative to gold presumably because of their limited stock and historical significance - not that it takes much for a $2 piece of paper to trade 50-100% higher.







Anything beyond 60-days is green for gold.





I'll make a chart including BTC soon Smiley

if what we're in right now is a flat, then its the most exciting flat i've ever seen. Cheesy

We're such a bunch of Bitcoin junkies Smiley
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June 15, 2012, 07:19:41 PM
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actually, it was an exciting "flat" for me.  all my subscribers know that i saw a flat topped ascending triangle developing months ago which was bullish for me.

I don't like to say the words that is agree with you, which might make you over confidence and you cannot warn us subscribers any danger in the future letter. Wink This is why I like silverox.

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June 15, 2012, 07:50:38 PM
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actually, it was an exciting "flat" for me.  all my subscribers know that i saw a flat topped ascending triangle developing months ago which was bullish for me.

I don't like to say the words that is agree with you, which might make you over confidence and you cannot warn us subscribers any danger in the future letter. Wink This is why I like silverox.

actually, i like silverox too.  much better imagery.
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June 15, 2012, 09:55:35 PM
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the silence is deafening.  i think all the kids got shaken out...
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June 15, 2012, 09:59:38 PM
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the silence is deafening.  i think all the kids got shaken out...

Aww its friday.  They are all just contemplating the massive injection big Ben is about to unload..

If I'm lucky later tonight my big Ben will get some love too..
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June 15, 2012, 10:02:38 PM
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the silence is deafening.  i think all the kids got shaken out...

Aww its friday.  They are all just contemplating the massive injection big Ben is about to unload..

If I'm lucky later tonight my big Ben will get some love too..

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June 15, 2012, 10:05:43 PM
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Bitcoin:  +15%

Gold:  -4%
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June 15, 2012, 10:49:38 PM
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Bitcoin:  +15%

Gold:  -4%

Happy days!  I'm finally in the black on Bitcoin (except for a brief period of run-up after the $2.nn days.)  Let's hope the trend continues and swells to a tsunami.  Bitcoin-wise that is...I'm happy with PM's doing as they do and do not especially need or wish to see any big earthquakes there.

BTW, I've been busy with various life-changes.  I've missed you boys over the last week or two.  I'm on 'excede' satellite these days and it's a pleasantly surprising experience compared to my other satellite experiences.  I can think of worse ways to waste my time than dicking around on the bitcointalk.org forum...especially in relatively exciting times like these when an important (to me) threshold has occurred in BTC price.


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June 15, 2012, 11:03:26 PM
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The Silverox Update:

Bitcoin:  +18.33%

Gold:  -4%
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June 15, 2012, 11:04:09 PM
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Bitcoin:  +15%

Gold:  -4%

Happy days!  I'm finally in the black on Bitcoin (except for a brief period of run-up after the $2.nn days.)  Let's hope the trend continues and swells to a tsunami.  Bitcoin-wise that is...I'm happy with PM's doing as they do and do not especially need or wish to see any big earthquakes there.

BTW, I've been busy with various life-changes.  I've missed you boys over the last week or two.  I'm on 'excede' satellite these days and it's a pleasantly surprising experience compared to my other satellite experiences.  I can think of worse ways to waste my time than dicking around on the bitcointalk.org forum...especially in relatively exciting times like these when an important (to me) threshold has occurred in BTC price.



welcome back.  can't say i missed you  Wink

what is "excede satellite"?
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June 15, 2012, 11:11:05 PM
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Bitcoin:  +15%

Gold:  -4%

Happy days!  I'm finally in the black on Bitcoin (except for a brief period of run-up after the $2.nn days.)  Let's hope the trend continues and swells to a tsunami.  Bitcoin-wise that is...I'm happy with PM's doing as they do and do not especially need or wish to see any big earthquakes there.

BTW, I've been busy with various life-changes.  I've missed you boys over the last week or two.  I'm on 'excede' satellite these days and it's a pleasantly surprising experience compared to my other satellite experiences.  I can think of worse ways to waste my time than dicking around on the bitcointalk.org forum...especially in relatively exciting times like these when an important (to me) threshold has occurred in BTC price.



welcome back.  can't say i missed you  Wink

what is "excede satellite"?

ISP.  Offered like a year ago.. something like 3mb up 12mb down, capped at 7gb per month.  Lets you have decently fast inet in the boonies, but 7gb is just not enuf Wink
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June 15, 2012, 11:12:21 PM
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The Silverox Update:

Bitcoin:  +20.37%

Gold:  -4%
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