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June 16, 2012, 04:07:43 PM
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sorry for this OT discussion, but tvbcof, how far are you from sufficient connectivity? You can easily build cheap wifi link. 10 kilometers without amplification are possible (for example with a yagi antenna).

I have a sat-link at my parents. The bandwidth is amazing (actually getting 10-20 mbit/s down when there's no snow on the dish), but hell, a 300ms latency kills all the fun, even for basic surfing tasks. tcp connections just take too long to get going. I've been thinking about using a persistent proxy connection to an outside server...


Likewise on the OT, but this thread has a history of divergence...a not-insignificant amount of it being _my_ bad personally...

A noticeable part of my selection for some property in town for an office and investment was that it was favorably located both to avoid a tsunami and to make long-distance wi-fi a possibility.  It's about 15 mi crow-flight from my country place.  No direct line-of-site, but there is a point where if I could put a single repeater in, I would have two line-of-site paths with good ground clearance (one needs a diamond-shaped clearance...I forgot what it is called.)  That point is in a state forest.  If I could convince the authorities to let me put in a solar powered repeater, it might work.  They would be necessarily concerned about fire issues, and I would be necessarily concerned about vandalism ant theft.  This is one of my many projects to waste money in the future.  Hopefully Bitcoin will pay off, and wasting money will not be a concern...I've always felt that Bitcoin is the one thing which _could_ make me stupidly wealthy and while the possibility is quite remote, it's vastly higher than winning the lottery (even if I did play the stupid thing.)


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June 16, 2012, 04:19:45 PM
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yeah, this thread is all over the place, but that's the beauty of it.  we all learn something new from each other everyday.

the title is what's compelling.
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June 16, 2012, 04:24:30 PM
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Lol, Rawdog is a gloried part of Bitcoin history, ragged on the bitcoin while he was a silver bug.....that didn't go too well for the poor fella.

But yeah, I'll be the brain slug if you want  Tongue

Oh ya.  That silver-v-bitcoin battle was winding down about the time I got interested (@ $16 and falling.)  Rawdog was the preeminent silver-bug imbecile at the time, but that other who's name I forgot...'lizardfuel' I guess...was well represented as well.  I guess those guys decided that Bitcoin was not going to dry up silver demand and moved on.  Will be interesting to see if they come back should Bitcoin continue it's rise.  Or maybe they've been at it all along...I stopped paying much attention to them or to Youtube vis-a-vis Bitcoin or PM's.

Your (YoYa's) picture thingy is second only to Chodpaba's Bob Dobs as my favorite here.


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Lol, Rawdog is a gloried part of Bitcoin history, ragged on the bitcoin while he was a silver bug.....that didn't go too well for the poor fella.

But yeah, I'll be the brain slug if you want  Tongue

Oh ya.  That silver-v-bitcoin battle was winding down about the time I got interested (@ $16 and falling.)  Rawdog was the preeminent silver-bug imbecile at the time, but that other who's name I forgot...'lizardfuel' I guess...was well represented as well.  I guess those guys decided that Bitcoin was not going to dry up silver demand and moved on.  Will be interesting to see if they come back should Bitcoin continue it's rise.  Or maybe they've been at it all along...I stopped paying much attention to them or to Youtube vis-a-vis Bitcoin or PM's.

Your (YoYa's) picture thingy is second only to Chodpaba's Bob Dobs as my favorite here.



hey tv, are you from the country or did you make the conscious decision to move out there to avoid civil unrest?
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June 16, 2012, 04:47:16 PM
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hey tv, are you from the country or did you make the conscious decision to move out there to avoid civil unrest?

I grew up mostly in rural areas and am comfortable with them and mostly prefer them.  I get bored and ready for a change no matter what my situation, and my latest major vocation has been software engineering so it works well do alternate between the boonies and the Bay Area.  I had a long string of opportunities which were to good to pass up so I went to long away from my country place (which has been in the family since it was homesteaded) and it's awfully nice to be back for a while.  I still have duties which will bring me back to the Bay Area from time to time so that is a really good compromise.

As for civil unrest, it is something I have mused about but has not been a major factor influencing my life decisions.  I do imagine that major population centers of the US and other parts of the developed world would collapse with stunning speed were supply chains to be disrupted and I would certainly rather observe that from afar.


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June 16, 2012, 04:56:51 PM
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hey tv, are you from the country or did you make the conscious decision to move out there to avoid civil unrest?

I grew up mostly in rural areas and am comfortable with them and mostly prefer them.  I get bored and ready for a change no matter what my situation, and my latest major vocation has been software engineering so it works well do alternate between the boonies and the Bay Area.  I had a long string of opportunities which were to good to pass up so I went to long away from my country place (which has been in the family since it was homesteaded) and it's awfully nice to be back for a while.  I still have duties which will bring me back to the Bay Area from time to time so that is a really good compromise.

As for civil unrest, it is something I have mused about but has not been a major factor influencing my life decisions.  I do imagine that major population centers of the US and other parts of the developed world would collapse with stunning speed were supply chains to be disrupted and I would certainly rather observe that from afar.



i love the Bay Area.  w/o getting too specific i spent 9 yrs of my life going to school there and always enjoy going back.  the fact that you've been able to combine a rural existence with the majesty of the Bay is close to ideal.
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June 16, 2012, 05:10:22 PM
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Your (YoYa's) picture thingy is second only to Chodpaba's Bob Dobs as my favorite here.



Cheers, also I've learned about the church of the subgenius as a result of your mention of Bob Dobs, double plus good Smiley

All this talk of the bay area has me tempted to immigrate, I have friends living in SF, and it is one of the nicest cities I've seen on my travels. But the lawlessness of American cops and politicians has me scared off the US at the moment.....which is a real pity as I do admire the place, it's people and it's microbreweries Wink
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June 16, 2012, 05:14:13 PM
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Your (YoYa's) picture thingy is second only to Chodpaba's Bob Dobs as my favorite here.



Cheers, also I've learned about the church of the subgenius as a result of your mention of Bob Dobs, double plus good Smiley

All this talk of the bay area has me tempted to immigrate, I have friends living in SF, and it is one of the nicest cities I've seen on my travels. But the lawlessness of American cops and politicians has me scared off the US at the moment.....which is a real pity as I do admire the place, it's people and it's microbreweries Wink

while it is getting worse, most notably traffic ticket cops and the DMV, i haven't noticed it too much elsewhere.  of course, i'm not one to need policing except for the speeding tickets.
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All this talk of the bay area has me tempted to immigrate, I have friends living in SF, and it is one of the nicest cities I've seen on my travels. But the lawlessness of American cops and politicians has me scared off the US at the moment.....which is a real pity as I do admire the place, it's people and it's microbreweries Wink

while it is getting worse, most notably traffic ticket cops and the DMV, i haven't noticed it too much elsewhere.  of course, i'm not one to need policing except for the speeding tickets.

My tricks to avoid hassles with cops:

 - Be white
 - have a haircut
 - donate $25 to 'cops helping kids' to get a bumper-sticker.  One of the best investments I ever made (excepting PM's and hopefully BTC.)


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June 16, 2012, 06:47:45 PM
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Mort Aux Vaches

This is not some pseudoeconomic post-modern Libertarian cult, it's an un-led, crowd-sourced mega startup organized around mutual self-interest where problems, whether of the theoretical or purely practical variety, are treated as temporary and, ultimately, solvable.
Censorship of e-gold was easy. Censorship of Bitcoin will be… entertaining.
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June 18, 2012, 04:38:20 AM
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nice video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoT4smdc9Pg&feature=watch_response

Bitcoinica still has not given me 50% of my claim of 600 BTC
INTERSANGO can go down with bitcoinica for abandoning customers
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June 18, 2012, 11:35:39 AM
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BUT: he sais if USD deflates, prize of BTC will go down hard. with his thesis, you can make the analogon: if the USD inflates, the prize has to go up.
that means with the inflation in the last 2 years, BTC should only have gone up what it definitely didn't.
if you compare inflation rate of USD with BTC you dont se a correlation:

(this is the official inflation, but real inflation might be higher)

and how would you explain the recent 20% increase of BTC while inflation is going down last 2 month?
i think its possible that deflation (eventually a deflation-shock) will occur and have an influence on BTC price, but the new incoming "first time bitcoin users" who are looking for a save heaven for their money will hold the prize up (if not increase).

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June 18, 2012, 06:44:26 PM
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I suppose its that time!

this thread was started 3/13

Bitcoin  5.40

Gold 1690.


today 6/18

Bitcoin 6.30  (up ~17%)

Gold 1629  (down ~4%)

BTC is up significantly, Gold still hasn't collapsed.  BTC is outperforming gold.


GLD 158 (cyp sh @ 152)  (Better cover before BigBen sinks ya..)

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June 19, 2012, 04:06:25 PM
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Gold down, Bitcoin UP.
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June 19, 2012, 04:39:45 PM
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Gold down, Bitcoin UP.

Ben will ride in on his white horse, maybe not this meeting, but definately by the next one.

and it will all be happy, happy, happy!!

Gold UP baby!!



Ben's starting the countdown right now..
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June 19, 2012, 06:42:43 PM
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Get ready!

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June 19, 2012, 06:51:35 PM
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Get ready!



You're talking about bitcoin, right?
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June 19, 2012, 06:52:41 PM
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Get ready!



You're talking about bitcoin, right?

No.
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June 19, 2012, 06:57:38 PM
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No need to rockets when you have warp drive


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Gold down, Bitcoin UP.
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