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December 30, 2013, 08:57:35 AM
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...I'd rather not go through fiat at all but the range of items for sale denominated in Bitcoin is limited.  Items that I want anyway.

Hopefully when I profit-take again in a year or two the landscape will be more conducive to trading straight across for shit which appeals to me.


How about an equity stake in a California Vinyard?
http://www.coindesk.com/stake-californian-winery-bitcoin-investors/

The options for direct diversification are increasing.

hmm.. Sadly I know nothing about the wine business.

I'm glad to see opportunities like this cropping up.  I to know nothing about the wine biz and that's how I would prefer that it stays.  I know there are shit loads of grape fields all over, and I've always suspected that having a winery is, as often as not, a way for rich people to lose money for tax reasons.  If so, it may tend toward being a tough way to make a dime for those who have that in mind.

In fact, I'll bet I drove past the vineyard in question on some of my weekend trips down that direction from the Bay Area.  Being in California is also a dis-advantage to me.  I spent a decade trying to get out of that place and finally succeeded a year and a half ago (although I had to work remotely for another year and go down there every month or two.)

Thx for the heads-up though Melbustus!


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December 30, 2013, 12:54:29 PM
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I'm glad to see opportunities like this cropping up. 
Bottled up subconscious humor.

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December 31, 2013, 02:15:01 PM
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I'm glad to see opportunities like this cropping up.
Bottled up subconscious humor.

Bottled up Cheesy

But honestly 100k usd seems pretty high for a two percent stake?

Yes pretty high, but might be worth it for some folks.  Like a golf club membership.  They may get some drunk enough at their wine tasting to sign up?
Collectible wine has done better than the stock market over the last few decades.  But I've more than enough land in California as it is.
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December 31, 2013, 06:18:19 PM
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holy short squeeze batman

This is not some pseudoeconomic post-modern Libertarian cult, it's an un-led, crowd-sourced mega startup organized around mutual self-interest where problems, whether of the theoretical or purely practical variety, are treated as temporary and, ultimately, solvable.
Censorship of e-gold was easy. Censorship of Bitcoin will be… entertaining.
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January 02, 2014, 02:29:35 AM
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Its official:
http://www.kitco.com/finance/bitcoin/#

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January 02, 2014, 02:46:41 AM
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awareness continues to increase:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/12/bitcoin_is_gold_20.html
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January 02, 2014, 04:34:32 AM
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cypherdoc, will bitcoin stagnate in 2014 ? What do you think, another 5,xxx% of growth ?
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January 02, 2014, 04:57:49 AM
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cypherdoc, will bitcoin stagnate in 2014 ? What do you think, another 5,xxx% of growth ?


Buy & Hold
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cypherdoc, will bitcoin stagnate in 2014 ? What do you think, another 5,xxx% of growth ?



im going to do more than jizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

:-) lol but $800 * 50 is "only" $40k/btc .... looks plausible to me :-)

$400 possible too :-)
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January 03, 2014, 12:57:28 AM
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This type of awareness and acceptance of Bitcoin by the PM community is another form of Gold parity....

Wow
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January 03, 2014, 01:31:18 AM
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Happy 5 years anniversary everyone!

And the market decides to celebrate by starting a rally Grin

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January 03, 2014, 01:45:25 AM
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Happy 5 years anniversary everyone!

And the market decides to celebrate by starting a rally Grin

Yeah let's party like it's Jan 03 ... i recall someone made this Happy Satoshi Day ...

everyone gets a day off to remember the creation of the genesis block and the beginning of the end of fiat banksterism!

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January 03, 2014, 01:14:46 PM
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This type of awareness and acceptance of Bitcoin by the PM community is another form of Gold parity....

Wow

you've got to be fucking kidding me! They got it:



Metals, Futures, Mining, Stocks, Forex, Bitcoin

well done, kitko!

They could've just slapped it under "forex", but it seems they understand Bitcoin: it's more of an asset class than anything else. It kind of fits under some of the other categories or none of them at all and Kitko recognized that correctly. Thanks!

Although, to be honest, they should've probably named the category "crypto" and list some altcoins in tabs like on the metals page.

Wow, Bitcoin really has come a long way.

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January 03, 2014, 01:35:09 PM
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This type of awareness and acceptance of Bitcoin by the PM community is another form of Gold parity....

Wow

you've got to be fucking kidding me! They got it:



Metals, Futures, Mining, Stocks, Forex, Bitcoin

well done, kitko!

They could've just slapped it under "forex", but it seems they understand Bitcoin: it's more of an asset class than anything else. It kind of fits under some of the other categories or none of them at all and Kitko recognized that correctly. Thanks!

Although, to be honest, they should've probably named the category "crypto" and list some altcoins in tabs like on the metals page.

Wow, Bitcoin really has come a long way.

Yes, they got it. Although crypto or cryptocurrency might be a less confusing name for the asset class (Bitcoin's already used for both the network and the currency/asset).
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January 03, 2014, 02:51:55 PM
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That Kitco page will be helpful for the new boy..



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-03/sign-top-hedge-fund-hiring-junior-bitcoin-execution-trader
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January 03, 2014, 05:13:59 PM
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Love seeing bitcoin on Kitco.

Now let's reinforce the wisdom of that... I just emailed Kitco thanking them for including bitcoin (pointing out I've been a Kitco user for years), and that I hope to see more bitcoin integration into their site in the coming months.

Bitcoin is the first monetary system to credibly offer perfect information to all economic participants.
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January 03, 2014, 06:04:07 PM
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Intermediate to advanced Excel skills. Fuck yeah!
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January 03, 2014, 06:12:04 PM
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Another strong sign that the big money actually is moving in bitcoin, 2014 is going to be very very intresting.
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January 03, 2014, 06:50:43 PM
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I don't want to jizz in my pants already, but what is this kitco? I'm not an american, obviously. Anyone care to explain?

Hai
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January 03, 2014, 07:38:14 PM
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I don't want to jizz in my pants already, but what is this kitco? I'm not an american, obviously. Anyone care to explain?

You have a second set of underwear?

For most online gold dealers, Kitco is their pricing source.  Based in Montreal Canada, major presence in New York and Hong Kong.
Kitco provide the easiest free pricing API that most precious metal dealers use and integrate worldwide.
That Kitco are now doing the same for Bitcoin is a game changer.  They are a very respected pricing source.  Their pricing may become more authoritative than say Coindesk's pricing, or of any particular exchange, as they use a weighted average.  

Kitco's methods are rigorous, they have been doing this for many decades.  They are a leader in the precious metal's businesses and started with refining in the 70's, when gold first became legal again in US (if they were doing it before they they aren't saying).   They were online by 1995.  It makes sense that they are on the early part of the curve.  Most any English speaker who is serious about gold knows Kitco.

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