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May 27, 2016, 01:17:04 PM
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May 27, 2016, 02:28:37 PM
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This BTC price rise is really hitting the "alts" hard.  XMR is down near three month low.  And right on support.  And it's gotten pushed down the coinmarketcap list by Lisk, Steem, and DAO lately.   

But on the other hand, it's been "whacked" down to "only" 85 cents in fiat terms. That's not much of a drop.






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May 27, 2016, 02:29:17 PM
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I wish there was more development going on and a good GUI wallet, etc. 

[1] More development going on? Monero is ranked #5 development wise on Coingecko, https://www.coingecko.com/en?sort_by=developer_score.

[2] Look at dem commits, man:


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May 27, 2016, 02:34:14 PM
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I wish there was more development going on and a good GUI wallet, etc. 

[1] More development going on? Monero is ranked #5 development wise on Coingecko, https://www.coingecko.com/en?sort_by=developer_score.

Quantity is not important, Quality please, good GUI please

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May 27, 2016, 02:41:51 PM
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I wish there was more development going on and a good GUI wallet, etc. 

[1] More development going on? Monero is ranked #5 development wise on Coingecko, https://www.coingecko.com/en?sort_by=developer_score.

Quantity is not important, Quality please, good GUI please

The Monero developers are probably ranked amongst the top on that list too.

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May 27, 2016, 02:44:14 PM
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I wish there was more development going on and a good GUI wallet, etc.  

[1] More development going on? Monero is ranked #5 development wise on Coingecko, https://www.coingecko.com/en?sort_by=developer_score.

Quantity is not important, Quality please, good GUI please

The Monero developers are probably ranked amongst the top on that list too.



glad to hear this positive opinion!

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May 27, 2016, 02:48:12 PM
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Is Monero core in a compileable state yet? Can one build it and test it out?
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May 27, 2016, 04:05:12 PM
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I wish there was more development going on and a good GUI wallet, etc. 

[1] More development going on? Monero is ranked #5 development wise on Coingecko, https://www.coingecko.com/en?sort_by=developer_score.

Quantity is not important, Quality please, good GUI please

Ease of use =/= quality. Every crapcoin has a kewl gui wallet. You should back those. They are going places.

On a different note, I believe so much I'm shorting just to lower prices to get moar. Cheesy

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May 27, 2016, 07:25:27 PM
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how many people use bitcoin's official qt gui?

how many use mycelium, electrum, coinbase, cold wallets, etc?

the xmr gui is not as important as people are making it out to be. people should stop fixating on it.

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May 27, 2016, 07:30:26 PM
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how many people use bitcoin's official qt gui?

how many use mycelium, electrum, coinbase, cold wallets, etc?

the xmr gui is not as important as people are making it out to be. people should stop fixating on it.

I think the poor man's investor (cart before the horse) argument goes as follows:

A coin must have an official GUI for moon

Monero doesn't have an official GUI

Therefore Monero no moon


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May 27, 2016, 07:48:43 PM
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Gui will help adoption period there are no arguments that are sound against that.

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May 27, 2016, 07:58:33 PM
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Gui will help adoption period there are no arguments that are sound against that.

I agree with this because there aren't already a bunch of other GUIs like there are for Bitcoin.

We tried that approach early on with the GUI bounty which successfully produced four different products, all of which got a piece of the bounty. Most were not maintained. One became MoneroX which was maintained for a while but that too was abandoned. The coin is just too small to reliably support those sorts of products and independent efforts (not meant as any disrespect for jwinterm and his lightWallet GUI which is still maintained and used). While it isn't the idea long-term strategy, for now we need to focus efforts on getting one well-maintained GUI.


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May 27, 2016, 08:12:44 PM
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Gui will help adoption period there are no arguments that are sound against that.

I don't think anyone is arguing that that isn't true, just that it isn't the only thing that will lead to adoption, but it does seem to be the only thing some people focus on.

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May 27, 2016, 08:17:13 PM
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how many people use bitcoin's official qt gui?

how many use mycelium, electrum, coinbase, cold wallets, etc?

the xmr gui is not as important as people are making it out to be. people should stop fixating on it.

Those weren't available in the early years of Bitcoin though. Furthermore, Bitcoin-QT was not really that user friendly and kind of "ugly".

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May 27, 2016, 08:26:00 PM
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how many people use bitcoin's official qt gui?

how many use mycelium, electrum, coinbase, cold wallets, etc?

the xmr gui is not as important as people are making it out to be. people should stop fixating on it.

Those weren't available in the early years of Bitcoin though. Furthermore, Bitcoin-QT was not really that user friendly and kind of "ugly".

The point is somewhat valid for Monero though, since we do now have lightWallet, MyMonero and a few others.

Those solutions are not great though, given the issue of resources. I believe MyMonero still does not support integrated addresses for example (not positive, as I don't use it). It definitely doesn't support tx-keys (needed for proof of payment) meaning it can't be used with bitsquare.

I don't mean that to call out fluffypony for doing anything wrong, as I think MyMonero overall is basically great, but it is hard to for all third party projects to justify a lot of resources for development when the coin is small as are the revenue opportunities for such a product.
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May 27, 2016, 08:27:10 PM
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Gui will help adoption period there are no arguments that are sound against that.

I disagree completely. There are plenty of reasonable arguments against that, the biggest of which is that a bundled GUI will do nothing to attract adoption outside of the cryptosphere, and almost everyone inside the cryptosphere is already aware of Monero and can use it if they want to.

A GUI by itself will do little for adoption.
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May 27, 2016, 08:28:50 PM
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A GUI by itself will do little for adoption.

What will?
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May 27, 2016, 08:30:01 PM
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Gui will help adoption period there are no arguments that are sound against that.

I disagree completely. There are plenty of reasonable arguments against that, the biggest of which is that a bundled GUI will do nothing to attract adoption outside of the cryptosphere, and almost everyone inside the cryptosphere is already aware of Monero and can use it if they want to.

I'm afraid I can't agree. It will help facilitate that adoption by giving people (including people outside the cryptosphere) something to download that is easier to use. Without that such efforts face a very uphill battle. You could possibly reach beyond the cryptposhere to other sys admis, software developers, etc. who are comfortable with command line tool, but that's a narrow market with little obvious attraction to alternative monetary systems.

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A GUI by itself will do little for adoption.

True for by itself but it is a necessary component of efforts to reach wider.

A GUI by itself will do little for adoption.

What will?

Nothing will, by itself. There are many pieces that need to fit together, GUI being one of them.
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May 27, 2016, 08:31:50 PM
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A GUI by itself will do little for adoption.

What will?

Services and tools that are useful on their own. I still think a centralized messaging/payments app would be very helpful (assuming it's done right).
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May 27, 2016, 08:32:15 PM
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Gui will help adoption period there are no arguments that are sound against that.

I disagree completely. There are plenty of reasonable arguments against that, the biggest of which is that a bundled GUI will do nothing to attract adoption outside of the cryptosphere, and almost everyone inside the cryptosphere is already aware of Monero and can use it if they want to.

I'm afraid I can't agree. It will help facilitate that adoption by giving people something to download that is easier to use. Without that such efforts face a very uphill battle. You could possibly reach beyond the cryptposhere to other sys admis, software developers, etc. who are comfortable with command line tool, but that's a narrow market with little obvious attraction to alternative monetary systems.

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A GUI by itself will do little for adoption.

True for by itself but it is a necessary component of efforts to reach wider.

A GUI by itself will do little for adoption.

What will?

Nothing will, by itself. There are many pieces that need to fit together, GUI being one of them.

I completely agree with both of your comments.
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