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June 27, 2015, 10:45:17 AM
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This is your opinion.Those who live in muslim majority countries ask them , they are free to perform their activities or not...??  Our Prophet SAW said love every human. whether he/she is muslim or not. By the way whtas your religion?? If you dnt mind?

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0oo Atheist !!! its mean they dont believe in GOD.
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June 27, 2015, 11:07:21 AM
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Islam is a religion of equality.

Let's try to keep these comedy jokes lines off this thread please. Thanks.

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June 27, 2015, 11:35:05 AM
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should all religions teach goodness and love. all back to ourselves each. a lot of people out there like using violence either Muslim or non-Muslim.

as an example:
  • ISIS from Arabs interior is a person who says that he is Muslim (they cut off the head of anyone who think he's guilty, and he was obliging law Qisas or punishment without ampu 'in my opinion'),
  • Ahsin Wirathu is a Buddhism from Myanmar country who behead every Muslim is caused simply because worried Muslims will become the majority in the country there

please don't mutually degrading any religion whether Muslim or non-Muslim. really how peaceful we can be open and help each other
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June 27, 2015, 11:47:20 AM
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For your kind information dear. Muslim pay  zakat while non muslim pay jizya. Islam is a religion of equality.

Muslims pay 1% or 2% of their earnings as zakat, and the poorer community members don't have to pay anything. On the other hand, the minorities often have to pay 20% of 30% of their earnings as jizya, irrespective of their income level (In Moorish Spain, the Jizya ranged from 33% to 80%, depending on the region, while zakat was less than 5%).
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June 27, 2015, 12:03:23 PM
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This is your opinion.Those who live in muslim majority countries ask them , they are free to perform their activities or not...??  Our Prophet SAW said love every human. whether he/she is muslim or not. By the way whtas your religion?? If you dnt mind?

Wilikon and Spendulus are atheists.


That is news to me...


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June 27, 2015, 12:04:20 PM
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This is your opinion.Those who live in muslim majority countries ask them , they are free to perform their activities or not...??  Our Prophet SAW said love every human. whether he/she is muslim or not. By the way whtas your religion?? If you dnt mind?

Wilikon and Spendulus are atheists.

0oo Atheist !!! its mean they dont believe in GOD.


That is news to me.


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June 27, 2015, 12:10:28 PM
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Islam is a religion of equality.

Let's try to keep these comedy jokes lines off this thread please. Thanks.






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June 27, 2015, 12:25:31 PM
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should all religions teach goodness and love. all back to ourselves each. a lot of people out there like using violence either Muslim or non-Muslim.

as an example:
  • ISIS from Arabs interior is a person who says that he is Muslim (they cut off the head of anyone who think he's guilty, and he was obliging law Qisas or punishment without ampu 'in my opinion'),
  • Ahsin Wirathu is a Buddhism from Myanmar country who behead every Muslim is caused simply because worried Muslims will become the majority in the country there

please don't mutually degrading any religion whether Muslim or non-Muslim. really how peaceful we can be open and help each other


Do we need a guide, a book, a religion to be peaceful? Is the very nature of man peaceful or not peaceful? This question needs its own thread.. Who's up for it?


 Smiley


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June 27, 2015, 12:59:52 PM
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Islam is a religion of equality.

Let's try to keep these comedy jokes lines off this thread please. Thanks.

Since it is Ramadan, I have asked the devout Muslim posters to be honest, and to not use their straw puppets, but only post as one person.

But I have no problem with comedy.

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June 27, 2015, 03:18:24 PM
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For your kind information dear. Muslim pay  zakat while non muslim pay jizya. Islam is a religion of equality.

Muslims pay 1% or 2% of their earnings as zakat, and the poorer community members don't have to pay anything. On the other hand, the minorities often have to pay 20% of 30% of their earnings as jizya, irrespective of their income level (In Moorish Spain, the Jizya ranged from 33% to 80%, depending on the region, while zakat was less than 5%).

That's pretty sad TBH. Islam does not tell to charge an amount like this but what they can afford. If they milk like this, the milk will soon finish.

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This is your opinion.Those who live in muslim majority countries ask them , they are free to perform their activities or not...??  Our Prophet SAW said love every human. whether he/she is muslim or not. By the way whtas your religion?? If you dnt mind?

Wilikon and Spendulus are atheists.


That is news to me...

Did I say something wrong? I mean you are an atheist, right?

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June 27, 2015, 03:27:30 PM
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For your kind information dear. Muslim pay  zakat while non muslim pay jizya. Islam is a religion of equality.

Muslims pay 1% or 2% of their earnings as zakat, and the poorer community members don't have to pay anything. On the other hand, the minorities often have to pay 20% of 30% of their earnings as jizya, irrespective of their income level (In Moorish Spain, the Jizya ranged from 33% to 80%, depending on the region, while zakat was less than 5%).

That's pretty sad TBH. Islam does not tell to charge an amount like this but what they can afford. If they milk like this, the milk will soon finish.

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This is your opinion.Those who live in muslim majority countries ask them , they are free to perform their activities or not...??  Our Prophet SAW said love every human. whether he/she is muslim or not. By the way whtas your religion?? If you dnt mind?

Wilikon and Spendulus are atheists.


That is news to me...

Did I say something wrong? I mean you are an atheist, right?


I, do not believe that is true... ✔
I do not believe, that is true... x


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June 27, 2015, 03:43:47 PM
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For your kind information dear. Muslim pay  zakat while non muslim pay jizya. Islam is a religion of equality.

Muslims pay 1% or 2% of their earnings as zakat, and the poorer community members don't have to pay anything. On the other hand, the minorities often have to pay 20% of 30% of their earnings as jizya, irrespective of their income level (In Moorish Spain, the Jizya ranged from 33% to 80%, depending on the region, while zakat was less than 5%).

That's pretty sad TBH. Islam does not tell to charge an amount like this but what they can afford. If they milk like this, the milk will soon finish.

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This is your opinion.Those who live in muslim majority countries ask them , they are free to perform their activities or not...??  Our Prophet SAW said love every human. whether he/she is muslim or not. By the way whtas your religion?? If you dnt mind?

Wilikon and Spendulus are atheists.


That is news to me...

Did I say something wrong? I mean you are an atheist, right?


I, do not believe that is true... ✔
I do not believe, that is true... x



Also famously stated by Ayn Rand,

"God, no."

But the subtleties will fly right past.
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June 27, 2015, 06:01:53 PM
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For your kind information dear. Muslim pay  zakat while non muslim pay jizya. Islam is a religion of equality.

Muslims pay 1% or 2% of their earnings as zakat, and the poorer community members don't have to pay anything. On the other hand, the minorities often have to pay 20% of 30% of their earnings as jizya, irrespective of their income level (In Moorish Spain, the Jizya ranged from 33% to 80%, depending on the region, while zakat was less than 5%).


Non-Muslims (usually males who could afford) were asked to pay a poll tax instead, which by most historical accounts was one gold dinar maximum per year, as compared to the 2.5% of their entire worth that Muslims must pay each year. Even so, Caliph Omar on his deathbed left the following instruction: “I instruct you to be good to the Dhimmis [non-Muslims] for they are your responsibility. Do not tax them beyond their capacity. Ensure that they pay the Jizya without undue inconvenience…With regard to the people, I enjoin upon you to administer justice with an even hand.

You are wrong dear the percent of jizya is not 20 to 30%. It is equal to zakah almost, there is just difference in their names.
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June 27, 2015, 06:17:58 PM
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should all religions teach goodness and love. all back to ourselves each. a lot of people out there like using violence either Muslim or non-Muslim.

as an example:
  • ISIS from Arabs interior is a person who says that he is Muslim (they cut off the head of anyone who think he's guilty, and he was obliging law Qisas or punishment without ampu 'in my opinion'),
  • Ahsin Wirathu is a Buddhism from Myanmar country who behead every Muslim is caused simply because worried Muslims will become the majority in the country there

please don't mutually degrading any religion whether Muslim or non-Muslim. really how peaceful we can be open and help each other


Do we need a guide, a book, a religion to be peaceful? Is the very nature of man peaceful or not peaceful? This question needs its own thread.. Who's up for it?


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Yes we need a religion as a guideline which tells us how to live,how to behave with others, religion give a lesson of peace.



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June 27, 2015, 06:28:55 PM
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For your kind information dear. Muslim pay  zakat while non muslim pay jizya. Islam is a religion of equality.

Muslims pay 1% or 2% of their earnings as zakat, and the poorer community members don't have to pay anything. On the other hand, the minorities often have to pay 20% of 30% of their earnings as jizya, irrespective of their income level (In Moorish Spain, the Jizya ranged from 33% to 80%, depending on the region, while zakat was less than 5%).

That's pretty sad TBH. Islam does not tell to charge an amount like this but what they can afford. If they milk like this, the milk will soon finish.

?
This is your opinion.Those who live in muslim majority countries ask them , they are free to perform their activities or not...??  Our Prophet SAW said love every human. whether he/she is muslim or not. By the way whtas your religion?? If you dnt mind?

Wilikon and Spendulus are atheists.


That is news to me...

Did I say something wrong? I mean you are an atheist, right?


I, do not believe that is true... ✔
I do not believe, that is true... x



Also famously stated by Ayn Rand,

"God, no."

But the subtleties will fly right past.






If you are not atheist then what is your religion?? Can you tell me ?
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June 27, 2015, 06:41:01 PM
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For your kind information dear. Muslim pay  zakat while non muslim pay jizya. Islam is a religion of equality.

Muslims pay 1% or 2% of their earnings as zakat, and the poorer community members don't have to pay anything. On the other hand, the minorities often have to pay 20% of 30% of their earnings as jizya, irrespective of their income level (In Moorish Spain, the Jizya ranged from 33% to 80%, depending on the region, while zakat was less than 5%).

That's pretty sad TBH. Islam does not tell to charge an amount like this but what they can afford. If they milk like this, the milk will soon finish.

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This is your opinion.Those who live in muslim majority countries ask them , they are free to perform their activities or not...??  Our Prophet SAW said love every human. whether he/she is muslim or not. By the way whtas your religion?? If you dnt mind?

Wilikon and Spendulus are atheists.


That is news to me...

Did I say something wrong? I mean you are an atheist, right?


I, do not believe that is true... ✔
I do not believe, that is true... x



Also famously stated by Ayn Rand,

"God, no."

But the subtleties will fly right past.






If you are not atheist then what is your religion?? Can you tell me ?
Sure.

As soon as you acknowledge that this statement you made is false.

Islam is a religion of equality.
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June 28, 2015, 04:54:40 AM
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You are wrong dear the percent of jizya is not 20 to 30%. It is equal to zakah almost, there is just difference in their names.

I had already posted the accurate figures from history books. I will post some more.

1. Jizya ranged from 33% to 80% in Spain under the Arab rule. (Source: The Moors in Spain (Vol. 6) by Lane-Poole, S., & Gilman, A.)

2. In modern Egypt, the average Jizya is around $1,500 (almost equal to the average annual income of the Egyptian Copts).

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2013/September/Egypt-Christians-Killed-for-Not-Paying-Jizya-Tax/

3. The rate of Jizya in the Moghul Empire (modern day India) was 48 silver dirhams for the highest class, 24 dirhams for the second class and 12 dirhams for the lowest class. This amounted to some 20% to 30% of the income (for the middle and lower classes).
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June 28, 2015, 05:14:03 AM
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You are wrong dear the percent of jizya is not 20 to 30%. It is equal to zakah almost, there is just difference in their names.

I had already posted the accurate figures from history books. I will post some more.

1. Jizya ranged from 33% to 80% in Spain under the Arab rule. (Source: The Moors in Spain (Vol. 6) by Lane-Poole, S., & Gilman, A.)

2. In modern Egypt, the average Jizya is around $1,500 (almost equal to the average annual income of the Egyptian Copts).

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2013/September/Egypt-Christians-Killed-for-Not-Paying-Jizya-Tax/

3. The rate of Jizya in the Moghul Empire (modern day India) was 48 silver dirhams for the highest class, 24 dirhams for the second class and 12 dirhams for the lowest class. This amounted to some 20% to 30% of the income (for the middle and lower classes).

They are overexploiting jizya by charging a high amount. Actually, jizya should be a little low nowadays because there are very less wars. Hence, defence is not really needed.

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June 28, 2015, 05:28:50 AM
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talking about Islam like that is really wrong
I'm Christian and I live in Syria , the most country that has suffered from terrorists
we are all living together , we all celebrate Christmas and Al-Adha
the Islam which ISIS provides is not the real Islam , I live with Muslims and all of them are good
people who are fighting against ISIS are Muslims too , so if they are all believe in killing others you would see them all fight with ISIS
the terrorism is coming from the extremists , and usually these actions are the results of poor societies


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June 28, 2015, 05:32:23 AM
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talking about Islam like that is really wrong
I'm Christian and I live in Syria , the most country that has suffered from terrorists
we are all living together , we all celebrate Christmas and Al-Adha
the Islam which ISIS provides is not the real Islam , I live with Muslims and all of them are good
people who are fighting against ISIS are Muslims too , so if they are all believe in killing others you would see them all fight with ISIS
the terrorism is coming from the extremists , and usually these actions are the results of poor societies

Nice to have someone from Syria in this forum!

IMO, the root cause of the problems in Syria is the Western / foreign involvement. The triple axis of Saudi Arabia - Turkey - Israel is instigating the civil war in Syria for their own benefits. The ISIS is being supported by recruits from Saudi Arabia, funding from Qatar, weapons from Israel, and supplies from Turkey. By the time the idiots in Saudi Arabia realize that they were being used as pawns by the US and Israel, it will be too late.
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