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December 04, 2015, 08:34:30 PM
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hello Ohad,

What is the current state of the project and the pre-sale?

Hi Or,
In short and in general, presale is ongoing, still (much) less than 10% were sold, development is ongoing and we're now at the last and hard stage from moving from interpreter to compiler. We're on this stage for quite a while, but we don't want to give up performance, and far to mention - correctness.
Any more specific questions are welcome.

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December 04, 2015, 08:46:34 PM
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hello Ohad,

What is the current state of the project and the pre-sale?

Hi Or,
In short and in general, presale is ongoing, still (much) less than 10% were sold, development is ongoing and we're now at the last and hard stage from moving from interpreter to compiler. We're on this stage for quite a while, but we don't want to give up performance, and far to mention - correctness.
Any more specific questions are welcome.

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December 04, 2015, 10:13:06 PM
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I wrote a summary of the current presale status http://www.idni.org/blog/presale-update
Also I updated the description of Agoras http://www.idni.org/agoras

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December 05, 2015, 05:23:32 PM
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I wrote a summary of the current presale status http://www.idni.org/blog/presale-update
Also I updated the description of Agoras http://www.idni.org/agoras
Hi ohad,
When do you intend to stop the presale, and burn the remaining premied Agoras coins?
A development calendar for tauchain?
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December 05, 2015, 05:47:38 PM
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I wrote a summary of the current presale status http://www.idni.org/blog/presale-update
Also I updated the description of Agoras http://www.idni.org/agoras
Hi ohad,
When do you intend to stop the presale, and burn the remaining premied Agoras coins?
A development calendar for tauchain?

Hi,
The coins will be destroyed at the final step - when Agoras is ready, which is several months (4?) after Tau is ready, which will take another such order of magnitude of time from now, by pessimistic estimation. Only when we deliver an actually working economy as we promised, the intermediate tokens will be destroyed, still a moment before the real coins are usable. Nevertheless I must stress that even though the technical feasibility of the project is unquestionable - we don't do anything that didn't already prove itself working out there - the development time is extremely difficult to estimate. This is because we cannot give up quality. We can't deliver tau/agoras with one bug and fix it later. The network must be correct=secure from genesis (unlike the standards of other players, but mostly because it may be technically impossible to change certain things after genesis, mainly the underlying logic). This also regards performance bugs.

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December 05, 2015, 09:25:07 PM
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I wrote a summary of the current presale status http://www.idni.org/blog/presale-update
Also I updated the description of Agoras http://www.idni.org/agoras
Hi ohad,
When do you intend to stop the presale, and burn the remaining premied Agoras coins?
A development calendar for tauchain?

Hi,
The coins will be destroyed at the final step - when Agoras is ready, which is several months (4?) after Tau is ready, which will take another such order of magnitude of time from now, by pessimistic estimation. Only when we deliver an actually working economy as we promised, the intermediate tokens will be destroyed, still a moment before the real coins are usable. Nevertheless I must stress that even though the technical feasibility of the project is unquestionable - we don't do anything that didn't already prove itself working out there - the development time is extremely difficult to estimate. This is because we cannot give up quality. We can't deliver tau/agoras with one bug and fix it later. The network must be correct=secure from genesis (unlike the standards of other players, but mostly because it may be technically impossible to change certain things after genesis, mainly the underlying logic). This also regards performance bugs.
Your project is revolutionary and it's product the tauchain, can have a big impact. Thank you for clarification.
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December 18, 2015, 08:28:39 AM
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Is there any update, there is no update of the code in Github for a long time.
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December 18, 2015, 08:31:29 AM
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Is there any update, there is no update of the code in Github for a long time.

There are updates on github just on another branch so you don't see it on master branch. Also I work mainly locally lately.

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December 23, 2015, 07:55:09 PM
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High-level interview about Tau https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ORpi2MMJrA

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January 08, 2016, 05:14:46 PM
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Price of the intermediate tokens will stop going up (the weekly 2%) until further notice. For now the price will remain 0.000634 btc per token

due to bitcoin price change, price per token updated to 0.000465

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January 08, 2016, 05:15:00 PM
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New video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SXfYgQxsOA

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January 20, 2016, 11:56:56 AM
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January 20, 2016, 09:32:39 PM
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Price of the intermediate tokens will stop going up (the weekly 2%) until further notice. For now the price will remain 0.000634 btc per token

due to bitcoin price change, price per token updated to 0.000465

When will be the end of selling? Still 4 months?
I am feeling a little fooled. It didn't seem to me that the selling will be over several months and marketing campaigns...
and reducing the price is not fair for early buyers as well... greedy?
I mean, hello.. I was spending my bitcoins here, and if i kept them I would have get more?
Sorry, but its getting suspicious...
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January 20, 2016, 09:45:23 PM
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Price of the intermediate tokens will stop going up (the weekly 2%) until further notice. For now the price will remain 0.000634 btc per token

due to bitcoin price change, price per token updated to 0.000465

When will be the end of selling? Still 4 months?
I am feeling a little fooled. It didn't seem to me that the selling will be over several months and marketing campaigns...
and reducing the price is not fair for early buyers as well... greedy?
I mean, hello.. I was spending my bitcoins here, and if i kept them I would have get more?
Sorry, but its getting suspicious...


Hi,
Reducing the price is only to adopt the BTC price -- the price isn't reduced in USD terms and in fact always only went up. BTC went almost x2 on this period of time and the price update wasn't as high. From since the beginning we informed that the prices would be rated in USD rather BTC. Moreover, the early buyers are always taken heavily into consideration and indeed price never went down in USD terms even once, but went up a lot.
I don't think it was ever said or clued that the sale will be over after a few months - in fact it will be ended significant period of time after tauchain will be ready. The sale will be ended when the Agoras network begins (with its true coins rather intermediate tokens as exist now), and at that point of time all unsold coins would be destroyed.
The price will go up again, but after 2% weekly for almost a year, I think it's ok to hold for a period of time, also because after all it's not that we've seen extremely high exchange volumes so to speak. Also I think that the biggest public interest on the tokens will be after tau is ready and before agoras is ready.

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January 20, 2016, 09:56:00 PM
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Hi,
Reducing the price is only to adopt the BTC price -- the price isn't reduced in USD terms and in fact always only went up. BTC went almost x2 on this period of time and the price update wasn't as high. From since the beginning we informed that the prices would be rated in USD rather BTC. Moreover, the early buyers are always taken heavily into consideration and indeed price never went down in USD terms even once, but went up a lot.
I don't think it was ever said or clued that the sale will be over after a few months - in fact it will be ended significant period of time after tauchain will be ready. The sale will be ended when the Agoras network begins (with its true coins rather intermediate tokens as exist now), and at that point of time all unsold coins would be destroyed.
The price will go up again, but after 2% weekly for almost a year, I think it's ok to hold for a period of time, also because after all it's not that we've seen extremely high exchange volumes so to speak. Also I think that the biggest public interest on the tokens will be after tau is ready and before agoras is ready.

The bitcoin price will probably raise further. So will you further reduce agoras price in bitcoin terms then? If bitcoin 10folds tau crashes in bitcoin? Did I invest in fiat?
We are in crypto space, dollar means nothing...
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January 20, 2016, 09:59:14 PM
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Hi,
Reducing the price is only to adopt the BTC price -- the price isn't reduced in USD terms and in fact always only went up. BTC went almost x2 on this period of time and the price update wasn't as high. From since the beginning we informed that the prices would be rated in USD rather BTC. Moreover, the early buyers are always taken heavily into consideration and indeed price never went down in USD terms even once, but went up a lot.
I don't think it was ever said or clued that the sale will be over after a few months - in fact it will be ended significant period of time after tauchain will be ready. The sale will be ended when the Agoras network begins (with its true coins rather intermediate tokens as exist now), and at that point of time all unsold coins would be destroyed.
The price will go up again, but after 2% weekly for almost a year, I think it's ok to hold for a period of time, also because after all it's not that we've seen extremely high exchange volumes so to speak. Also I think that the biggest public interest on the tokens will be after tau is ready and before agoras is ready.

The bitcoin price will probably raise further. So will you further reduce agoras price in bitcoin terms then? If bitcoin 10folds tau crashes in bitcoin? Did I invest in fiat?
We are in crypto space, dollar means nothing...

The price-in-fiat way was announced from the beginning and mentioned all along. And I think this is the responsible thing to do. We cannot put the project's funds at the risk of BTC fluctuations. Did you see how much Ethereum lost due to BTC price change?..

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January 20, 2016, 10:05:59 PM
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The price-in-fiat way was announced from the beginning and mentioned all along. And I think this is the responsible thing to do. We cannot put the project's funds at the risk of BTC fluctuations. Did you see how much Ethereum lost due to BTC price change?..

Ethereum lost nothing. They just have to keep the funds until price goes higher again. Dumping is not helping here. We crypto guys are responsible for the adaption.
If even we can't live 50% rollercoasters, how can we ever get this whole shit public adapted?
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January 20, 2016, 10:09:29 PM
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The price-in-fiat way was announced from the beginning and mentioned all along. And I think this is the responsible thing to do. We cannot put the project's funds at the risk of BTC fluctuations. Did you see how much Ethereum lost due to BTC price change?..

Ethereum lost nothing. They just have to keep the funds until price goes higher again. Dumping is not helping here. We crypto guys are responsible for the adaption.
If even we can't live 50% rollercoasters, how can we ever get this whole shit public adapted?

Ok I respect your opinion though majority of the buyers rather support the fiat paradigm for the same reasons. We all want the same thing.

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February 01, 2016, 06:21:52 PM
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It seems that once Tau goes online, and a few exchanges pick up the temporary AGRS, or even after the AGRS genesis comes through, that all denominations will be based on BTC. So this is really a mute point to argue about, as this approach is relevant only for the early pre-genesis pre-trade mode.   
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February 03, 2016, 09:18:02 PM
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Any news on the project?

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