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March 31, 2016, 10:20:07 PM
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hello ohad, i feel sorry for what happened here, it only reveals that you are a person that trusts the others. How did the scammer played you and you didn't suspect?

Unfortunately this only brings confusion and delay for you and the project.

From my point of view all this mess increases my confidence in you. You are a good human being.

The scammers always scam good people. Angry

thanks. that was a good social engineering. the scammer impersonated Tristan from Poloniex both in front of me and in front of Judith (who has no fault or blame at all on this story), both on skype and in email.

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March 31, 2016, 10:57:55 PM
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Wow man, this is like a mexican novel, no offense to mexicans. Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

Bittrex should roll back all trades with stolen coins. Ohad should recompense them for the amount withdrawn by the scammer and for their fees earned from those trades. 



There is no way to reverse the trades.  By the time we were notified, the coins were dumped and the BTC had been withdrawn

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I second that. If possible, bittrex should make a roll back and get compensated for any financial damage caused by withdrawals and such.


I too agree that this is the best and simplest way to handle this matter.
I second that.


Bittrex has the technical capability to do this roll-back and as Ohad can fully compensate them, they'll lose nothing. I wrote them an e-mail to suggest this solution, with a copy to Ohad. I hope bittrex would cooperate with us to resolve this issue, but if not – I'll withdraw all my funds from my account there. 
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March 31, 2016, 11:01:32 PM
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I have info on the scmmer and i heard from a source of him. he was contacted him to give back all coins and he saids he is will return the coins if he keeps 3m token ... i tink fuck himmm     Huh Huh Huh
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March 31, 2016, 11:09:05 PM
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Bittrex should roll back all trades with stolen coins. Ohad should recompense them for the amount withdrawn by the scammer and for their fees earned from those trades. 
There is no way to reverse the trades.  By the time we were notified, the coins were dumped and the BTC had been withdrawn

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I second that. If possible, bittrex should make a roll back and get compensated for any financial damage caused by withdrawals and such.
I too agree that this is the best and simplest way to handle this matter.

So is it possible for bittrex to roll back trades, ohad compensates lost BTC, then he also rolls back the blockchain before the stolen 21m?

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April 01, 2016, 12:19:25 AM
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Wow man, this is like a mexican novel, no offense to mexicans. Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

Bittrex should roll back all trades with stolen coins. Ohad should recompense them for the amount withdrawn by the scammer and for their fees earned from those trades. 



There is no way to reverse the trades.  By the time we were notified, the coins were dumped and the BTC had been withdrawn

thanks,
richie@bittrex






I second that. If possible, bittrex should make a roll back and get compensated for any financial damage caused by withdrawals and such.


I too agree that this is the best and simplest way to handle this matter.
I second that.

What is the goal?  Reversing the trades is a big task and i don't it's worth it given what I think you are trying to accomplish.  If the goal is to get the 500k back, why not just arrange an off exchange purchase where ohad buys the coins back from the members that purchased them?  It seems like all the majority of the coins ended up at buyers are known on this thread already and are willing to cooperate.

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April 01, 2016, 01:02:43 AM
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April 01, 2016, 01:19:33 AM
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April 01, 2016, 01:27:53 AM
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Wait so he is giving them back? Great. Let's hope he actually does.

Edit:
Wow 4am, early or late? Either way you're very committed. Good job ohad.

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April 01, 2016, 01:57:36 AM
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April 01, 2016, 02:02:37 AM
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So is it possible to roll everything back before you sent the 21m?

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April 01, 2016, 02:03:48 AM
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So is it possible to roll everything back before you sent the 21m?

no rollback is possible. we just create new tokens and give them automatically to all current holders

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April 01, 2016, 02:04:50 AM
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So is it possible to roll everything back before you sent the 21m?

no rollback is possible. we just create new tokens and give them automatically to all current holders
Ok, will this now make the scammers holdings worthless? Apart from the BTC gained from the dump that is.

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April 01, 2016, 02:05:28 AM
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So is it possible to roll everything back before you sent the 21m?

no rollback is possible. we just create new tokens and give them automatically to all current holders
Ok, will this now make the scammers holdings worthless? Apart from the BTC gained from the dump that is.

exactly

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April 01, 2016, 02:10:55 AM
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The important thing is that the thief wanted to be nice and just asked to receive something small for his kindness...
what a miserable impotent douchebag...
oh well, in any case, it's good there are solutions to all this unpleasant affair.

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April 01, 2016, 02:31:57 AM
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Poloneix Grin?
Someone else in nxtforum reported a similar phishing attempt one year ago.
https://nxtforum.org/trading-exchanges/phishing-email-coming-from-poloneix-exchange-note-it-is-misspelled

Ohad, can you confirm the scammer's email address?
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April 01, 2016, 02:36:20 AM
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Poloneix Grin?
Someone else in nxtforum reported a similar phishing attempt one year ago.
https://nxtforum.org/trading-exchanges/phishing-email-coming-from-poloneix-exchange-note-it-is-misspelled

Ohad, can you confirm the scammer's email address?


yes, same scammer, that's how i found out..

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April 01, 2016, 02:49:52 AM
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im not going to waste my time answering

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April 01, 2016, 03:16:16 AM
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Same scammer tried to scam another developer on the same day.
See conversation between the Xquadron dev and Polo moderator in the Polo trollbox log below (archives there)

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54 Tournmaster 2016-03-30 00:54:57  GeezUp, how many time its gone take to add Xquadron?
M 2086 GeezUp  2016-03-30 00:55:16  Tournmaster, https://poloniex.com/coinRequest
54 Tournmaster 2016-03-30 00:55:39  GeezUp, already done im talking with tristan now
54 Tournmaster 2016-03-30 00:56:26  GeezUp, so how long it will take?
M 2086 GeezUp  2016-03-30 00:56:31  Tournmaster, are you sure?
M 2086 GeezUp  2016-03-30 00:56:41  Tournmaster, who are you talking too?
M 2086 GeezUp  2016-03-30 00:56:52  Tournmaster, did they ask you for funds?
54 Tournmaster 2016-03-30 00:57:10  GeezUp, Busoni
M 2086 GeezUp  2016-03-30 00:57:32  Tournmaster, and how are you talking to him right now?
54 Tournmaster 2016-03-30 00:57:49  GeezUp, gmail
54 Tournmaster 2016-03-30 00:58:48  GeezUp, do i send the fund?
M 2086 GeezUp  2016-03-30 00:58:58  Tournmaster, They are a scammer
M 2086 GeezUp  2016-03-30 00:59:05  Tournmaster, if they are asking you for money
M 2086 GeezUp  2016-03-30 00:59:14  Tournmaster, what is the email address for them?
54 Tournmaster 2016-03-30 00:59:20  GeezUp, really grrrr i hate this kind of peolpe
M 2086 GeezUp  2016-03-30 00:59:35  Tournmaster, did you send them any money?
54 Tournmaster 2016-03-30 00:59:46  GeezUp, not yet
54 Tournmaster 2016-03-30 00:59:58  GeezUp, poloneix@gmail.com
M 2086 GeezUp  2016-03-30 01:00:25  Tournmaster, ok please do not
M 2086 GeezUp  2016-03-30 01:00:30  that is an impostor
54 Tournmaster 2016-03-30 01:00:41  GeezUp, so xquadron is not gone be add today if i understand....
91 Blockcodes  2016-03-30 01:00:46  GeezUp, you guys didnt reserve your own gmail Sad
91 Blockcodes  2016-03-30 01:01:10  its a made up word
M 2086 GeezUp  2016-03-30 01:01:23  Tournmaster, no
54 Tournmaster 2016-03-30 01:01:33  *bleep*t
M 2086 GeezUp  2016-03-30 01:01:42  Blockcodes, we have poloniex but not poloneix
M 2086 GeezUp  2016-03-30 01:01:47  check the spelling
54 Tournmaster 2016-03-30 01:01:47  GeezUp, can you do something
M 2086 GeezUp  2016-03-30 01:01:56  Tournmaster, there is nothing i can do
91 Blockcodes  2016-03-30 01:02:03  GeezUp, ahhh I did not catch it first time tricky phishes
54 Tournmaster 2016-03-30 01:02:13  GeezUp, what can i do?
M 2086 GeezUp  2016-03-30 01:03:49  Tournmaster, to have the coin added?
M 2086 GeezUp  2016-03-30 01:04:21  Blockcodes, yes very tricky
54 Tournmaster 2016-03-30 01:04:57  GeezUp, yes to add Xquadron to polo
M 2086 GeezUp  2016-03-30 01:05:44  Tournmaster, if you requested, we will review
54 Tournmaster 2016-03-30 01:07:11  GeezUp, i already did it but send me a link i will try again
M 2086 GeezUp  2016-03-30 01:07:19  Tournmaster, https://poloniex.com/coinRequest
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April 01, 2016, 03:31:01 AM
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Ohad, let's look at the SMTP headers.
Can you make a pastebin with all the raw emails he sent together with the headers?
(In gmail: click on the inverted triangle beside Reply. Select Show Original)
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April 01, 2016, 03:32:20 AM
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sure http://pastebin.com/RevjcQiU

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